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Post by floridagrl on Jan 8, 2015 21:37:24 GMT -5
The irony of this thread... 1) Madonna will continue to use phrases from her music and other projects to embellish her posts on social media. She has done this on nearly every post for more than a year and has applied them to current affairs and commentary on the state of the world many times before. 2) People who don't like her will use this as an excuse to question her motives and act insulted and disgusted by her. 3) The very presence of Madonna's detractors in this thread, and the many, many posts they've dedicated to disparaging her intentions prove that if, indeed, her purpose is promotional, calculated, and self-serving, then she continues to be quite successful. This! She has been doing this over a year now. She didn't just start this to promote an album. She's on a crusade. Like it or not, that's how it is.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 8, 2015 21:41:27 GMT -5
The irony of this thread... 1) Madonna will continue to use phrases from her music and other projects to embellish her posts on social media. She has done this on nearly every post for more than a year and has applied them to current affairs and commentary on the state of the world many times before. 2) People who don't like her will use this as an excuse to question her motives and act insulted and disgusted by her. 3) The very presence of Madonna's detractors in this thread, and the many, many posts they've dedicated to disparaging her intentions prove that if, indeed, her purpose is promotional, calculated, and self-serving, then she continues to be quite successful. This! She has been doing this over a year now. She didn't just start this to promote an album. She's on a crusade. Like it or not, that's how it is. If anything, she has found a way to tier her album in with the entire revolution, art freedom etc that has been going on for a while now.
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Post by xxzion72xx on Jan 8, 2015 21:58:14 GMT -5
So Interscope sends LFL too official adds according to Madonnalicous.com on Feb 10th ... So this going too be a huge send off with Some Radio, Grammys, Jimmy Fallon.. Maybe Lettermen..and maybe the Debut Video for LFL before the superbowl would be tops.
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Post by Safado on Jan 8, 2015 22:08:02 GMT -5
is the #revolutionoflove bad too? Or is that a name of a song she is promoting as well or just to her a word that represents something as well? Now that you bring it up that is THE BIGGEST ISSUE as muslim i have with her. Its one thing to push the boundaries on her sexuality and things that pertain to her and her image but its another when she does tacky things like this, over and over. "The Revolution of Love is on…Inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing']" then put on a chainmail niqab to add mockery of a religion SHE IS NOT PART OF or even understands her shallow depths of subjects and her desperate pleas for attention never has limits. But yes to her fans its not mockery its not ignorance and its not sticking her pop self into religion when she has no taste for religion to start with (nothing wrong with that) Oh for fucks sake, I'm Muslim, and this never offended me at all. Just admit you don't like her and will do anything to bash her. She might become mother Teresa and you'll still find something to hate about it. What offends me about Madonna is that she put a song called Hey You......ughhhhhh, why, why. Some people really need a hobby. Btw, did you notice that while a lot of people are saying Islam is bad, she defended Islam by saying that a select fee is not a representation of the entire religion. So just stop while you are ahead or not, I was not going to say anything but enough is enough. Making fun of her adopted children, this and that, it's getting to be pathetic. That is all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 22:20:27 GMT -5
The irony of this thread... 1) Madonna will continue to use phrases from her music and other projects to embellish her posts on social media. She has done this on nearly every post for more than a year and has applied them to current affairs and commentary on the state of the world many times before. 2) People who don't like her will use this as an excuse to question her motives and act insulted and disgusted by her. 3) The very presence of Madonna's detractors in this thread, and the many, many posts they've dedicated to disparaging her intentions prove that if, indeed, her purpose is promotional, calculated, and self-serving, then she continues to be quite successful. Preach It Botoxic!.. and cast the wicked out of 144487, Coco , and Jazzy! Stanley, none of us or anyone else is wicked for not appreciating her #hashtags. Your commentary is unnecessary.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 8, 2015 22:22:13 GMT -5
Now that you bring it up that is THE BIGGEST ISSUE as muslim i have with her. Its one thing to push the boundaries on her sexuality and things that pertain to her and her image but its another when she does tacky things like this, over and over. "The Revolution of Love is on…Inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing']" then put on a chainmail niqab to add mockery of a religion SHE IS NOT PART OF or even understands her shallow depths of subjects and her desperate pleas for attention never has limits. But yes to her fans its not mockery its not ignorance and its not sticking her pop self into religion when she has no taste for religion to start with (nothing wrong with that) Oh for f**ks sake, I'm Muslim, and this never offended me at all. Just admit you don't like her and will do anything to bash her. She might become mother Teresa and you'll still find something to hate about it. What offends me about Madonna is that she put a song called Hey You......ughhhhhh, why, why. Some people really need a hobby. Btw, did you notice that while a lot of people are saying Islam is bad, she defended Islam by saying that a select fee is not a representation of the entire religion. So just stop while you are ahead or not, I was not going to say anything but enough is enough. Making fun of her adopted children, this and that, it's getting to be pathetic. That is all. Hey You was pretty offensive!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 22:23:22 GMT -5
Now that you bring it up that is THE BIGGEST ISSUE as muslim i have with her. Its one thing to push the boundaries on her sexuality and things that pertain to her and her image but its another when she does tacky things like this, over and over. "The Revolution of Love is on…Inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing']" then put on a chainmail niqab to add mockery of a religion SHE IS NOT PART OF or even understands her shallow depths of subjects and her desperate pleas for attention never has limits. But yes to her fans its not mockery its not ignorance and its not sticking her pop self into religion when she has no taste for religion to start with (nothing wrong with that) Oh for f**ks sake, I'm Muslim, and this never offended me at all. Just admit you don't like her and will do anything to bash her. She might become mother Teresa and you'll still find something to hate about it. What offends me about Madonna is that she put a song called Hey You......ughhhhhh, why, why. Some people really need a hobby. Btw, did you notice that while a lot of people are saying Islam is bad, she defended Islam by saying that a select fee is not a representation of the entire religion. So just stop while you are ahead or not, I was not going to say anything but enough is enough. Making fun of her adopted children, this and that, it's getting to be pathetic. That is all. I am not you and you are not me. I don't speak for you. I speak for me. I have made it clear I don't like her character. I have made it clear when I do like a song and avoid her when I don't. This isn't about her music. So whether you like what i say or not or believe where I am coming from. I will still say what needs to be said in these types of stories. Musically i haven't nor wont be getting invested in conversation but this isn't about the music. Never made fun of her adopted son. I adore David Banda and was concerned when she trotted him out for the Grammy award photo op to quiet the N word backlash. I just didn't think children were a tool but everything else has been so far. I don't make fun of children so that is factually wrong. Nobody is saying oh this is the biggest crime or I am so offended i'm raging. Its just insensitive, tacky and self serving. BTW great that she says not all muslims are the same but i didn't her to tell me that I knew that, do you want me to give her standing O for the obvious? It's not a big deal, we disagree. We all said what we need to say. Move on
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Post by floridagrl on Jan 8, 2015 22:25:11 GMT -5
"Love this photo from Mario Testino-Says it all. #jesuischarlie #livingforlove" -Madonna
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Post by Juanca on Jan 8, 2015 22:53:15 GMT -5
Madonna tested me when I saw her 'crucified' singing Live to tell. People were saying she was mocking the religion and trying to compare herself to Jesus. As a Catholic, this was heavy stuff. I didn't comment on it though. Then I saw her live to understand what she meant... And I literally cried at that moment. She's an artist and has her own ways to express her thoughts, provoking reactions to make her fans and in general any audience to think about much deeper issues than just simple pop music. And I love her for it!!! It'd be easier for her to be another shallow pop singer. But she's not. She's never been. She's been in business more than 30 years so I don't get the whole criticism on her way to communicate her messages. She already did it in the 1980s (eg like a prayer anyone?) As someone already said, she's been in a crusade for more than a year, with art for freedom and then the rebel heart motto. She isn't doing shameless promo, she's into something else as her long term fans can understand. At some point she was into the whole Mother Earth stuff back in Ray of light era; or the Ditta persona back in the Erotica era. Had social media existed at that time, I can easily see her behaving similarly. She's now into fight for freedom and human rights, and using her pop fame to share messages that address both issues. Her message today was über positive and recognize both respect for all religions (even those which she doesn't profess) but respect for life first. Kudos.
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Post by Safado on Jan 8, 2015 23:01:12 GMT -5
Oh for f**ks sake, I'm Muslim, and this never offended me at all. Just admit you don't like her and will do anything to bash her. She might become mother Teresa and you'll still find something to hate about it. What offends me about Madonna is that she put a song called Hey You......ughhhhhh, why, why. Some people really need a hobby. Btw, did you notice that while a lot of people are saying Islam is bad, she defended Islam by saying that a select fee is not a representation of the entire religion. So just stop while you are ahead or not, I was not going to say anything but enough is enough. Making fun of her adopted children, this and that, it's getting to be pathetic. That is all. Hey You was pretty offensive!! OMG, totally..I cringe everytime. But I forgive her for that atrocity, she warms me up inside now. Praise Her.
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Post by Pink Pvssy on Jan 8, 2015 23:19:14 GMT -5
If she can give a bj to Jesus then she can f*ck Muhammad and let Buddha take her ass.I like that chain face mask. It's really cool. #Gangbang
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 23:49:16 GMT -5
If she can give a bj to Jesus then she can f*ck Muhammad and let Buddha take her ass.I like that chain face mask. It's really cool. #Gangbang Ignorance they say is sort of a trait that can be influenced so glad to see #TheImpact I am catholic on one said and muslim on one side its one thing for me to talk about my own religion BUT i wouldn't dare say anything negative or disrespectful against say the Jewish faith since I wouldn't want to offend. So stop defending someone you don't know about in regards to borderline offensive things they put out on social media by going a step further and offending other religions you are not part of. Its tacky but i'm moving along before ignorance spreads.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 8, 2015 23:58:21 GMT -5
What is offensive is just a matter of opinion….if you do not want to be offended then it would be best to avoid social media and message boards. With diversity comes diversity of thought and opinion. Unless you advocate to muder someone or treat someone badly then whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 0:01:12 GMT -5
That is rich coming from a group of people who are so offended that people are questioning their LORD that they are being ignorant, disrespectful and dismissive and then using the freedom of speech that they can say whatever they want and people should avoid message boards.
Rich & telling. You are right though, people are free to be ignorant and others are free to point out when celebs or anybody is being ignorant. Its a two way street.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 9, 2015 0:26:50 GMT -5
That is rich coming from a group of people who are so offended that people are questioning their LORD that they are being ignorant, disrespectful and dismissive and then using the freedom of speech that they can say whatever they want and people should avoid message boards. Rich & telling. You are right though, people are free to be ignorant and others are free to point out when celebs or anybody is being ignorant. Its a two way street. I cannot speak for anyone else but I'm not the least bit offended by anything you have said…I think maybe you could express your opinion without calling people blind, ignorant and everything else. If the people in this thread are so terrible and horrible and stupid then why would you keep coming back and subjecting yourself to it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 0:32:05 GMT -5
That is rich coming from a group of people who are so offended that people are questioning their LORD that they are being ignorant, disrespectful and dismissive and then using the freedom of speech that they can say whatever they want and people should avoid message boards. Rich & telling. You are right though, people are free to be ignorant and others are free to point out when celebs or anybody is being ignorant. Its a two way street. I cannot speak for anyone else but I'm not the least bit offended by anything you have said…I think maybe you could express your opinion without calling people blind, ignorant and everything else. If the people in this thread are so terrible and horrible and stupid then why would you keep coming back and subjecting yourself to it? Not all the people but enough and its clear from what they add who these people are. I don't come here though for people good or bad. Just to voice my opinion, others have and its no big deal to me. I could do without a couple of people making nasty comments about cultures, religions or things they have no clue about but aside from that its been a positive experience. I will i don't understand the stan worship. Its no secret I stan for Mariah Carey for example but anyone who knows will see how I RIP into her when she doesn't do what i like some people in this thread would know because they see me in other threads (BET awards lip, fake things here and there, songs, musical direction) I just don't get the whole because i love them everything they do is AMAZING and they can be disrespectful, ignorant, shamelessly appropriate religions, civil rights leaders or anything else. Like its alright to say what a f**king stupid move and love her still. You can tell who actually believes what they saying ie you, or those who just blindly stan follow and then attack lol. Oh and I don't think ppl in this thread are stupid, they are willfully being ignorant. I think they know she is being facetious, conniving , tacky and ignorant but its easier to pretend she isn't cause they are stans. Fuck R Kelly peed on a minor and i find that deplorable and I still say that and still listen to his music. Music is one thing but how can you defend a ignorant woman? is my thing.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 9, 2015 0:39:10 GMT -5
I cannot speak for anyone else but I'm not the least bit offended by anything you have said…I think maybe you could express your opinion without calling people blind, ignorant and everything else. If the people in this thread are so terrible and horrible and stupid then why would you keep coming back and subjecting yourself to it? Not all the people but enough and its clear from what they add who these people are. I don't come here though for people good or bad. Just to voice my opinion, others have and its no big deal to me. I could do without a couple of people making nasty comments about cultures, religions or things they have no clue about but aside from that its been a positive experience. I will i don't understand the stan worship. Its no secret I stan for Mariah Carey for example but anyone who knows will see how I RIP into her when she doesn't do what i like some people in this thread would know because they see me in other threads (BET awards lip, fake things here and there, songs, musical direction) I just don't get the whole because i love them everything they do is AMAZING and they can be disrespectful, ignorant, shamelessly appropriate religions, civil rights leaders or anything else. Like its alright to say what a f**king stupid move and love her still. You can tell who actually believes what they saying ie you, or those who just blindly stan follow and then attack lol. Yeah…I do not really relate to the stan thing at all…I may have opinions on these people's public persona, however I do not really deep down know what they are really like beyond that because I do not know them personally. People often mistake their dislike or love of a persons celebrity with really knowing their heart or whatever. I know other people get into the personalities etc, me personally only care about the music and what I think about it. So if she releases another Give Me All Your Luvin then I'm going to rip her a new one!
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Post by Juanca on Jan 9, 2015 0:42:33 GMT -5
I respect Coco's opinions. I've witnessed how he's a honest STAN for Mariah and can drag her down! I also think a comment about having a gangbang with religious figures for the sake of it would cross the line even for Madonna... But again that's my opinion. I also think that Coco and I (and others in this thread) have different basic assumptions about Madonna though. Most likely none of us has the full right answer, and we can agree to disagree without calling names among each other but explaining our viewpoints in a civil manner. #livingforlove Coco also has a #rebelheart
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Post by Libra on Jan 9, 2015 0:42:38 GMT -5
If we can keep the personal digs to a minimum - preferably to none at all - that would be great. :)
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jan 9, 2015 1:26:37 GMT -5
After seeing the picture Madonna posted of her biological children and said "the two halves of my heart", I would not be surprised if we got a Mommie Dearest book from David or Mercy within 20 years.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 9, 2015 1:43:47 GMT -5
After seeing the picture Madonna posted of her biological children and said "the two halves of my heart", I would not be surprised if we got a Mommie Dearest book from David or Mercy within 20 years. Man…I think that statement is where you lose me and me thinking your sole purpose is not to just hang on every little thing looking for a negative :)
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jan 9, 2015 1:48:55 GMT -5
After seeing the picture Madonna posted of her biological children and said "the two halves of my heart", I would not be surprised if we got a Mommie Dearest book from David or Mercy within 20 years. Man…I think that statement is where you lose me and me thinking your sole purpose is not to just hang on every little thing looking for a negative :) I'm sorry you feel that way. But the truth is when I saw that photo (with the accompanying comment), that is what came to mind. I definately wasn't the only one though.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 9, 2015 1:55:59 GMT -5
Man…I think that statement is where you lose me and me thinking your sole purpose is not to just hang on every little thing looking for a negative :) I'm sorry you feel that way. But the truth is when I saw that photo (with the accompanying comment), that is what came to mind. I definately wasn't the only one though. I understand….When you view someone in a negative light you will spin things or take them with negative intent behind it. However , it does seem like while you have people that will only praise on one side, you also have those that seem to only want to find dislike or bad meaning behind everything on the other. I do not believe the woman adopted children for attention or for giggles…She obviously has other ways to get attention and adoption is a pretty heavy commitment that I believe the vast majority of people do out of good intentions and love.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jan 9, 2015 2:20:19 GMT -5
There are still people who feel that Madonna bought the children to soften her image a la Angelina Jolie and then do humanitarian work. I think she genuinely loves all 4 of her children. I can see how some would think she has a different kind of love for her biological children. It did seem odd that she posted that "two halves of my heart" thing.
I don't know what Madonna is like in private with her kids, but she seems like she is a good mom. We did see and hear some questionable stuff about Lourdes and Rocco, but what kid hasn't done something like that at that age? Lourdes seems to be on the right path for the most part.
I have seen and read items about other celebrities who have multiple nannies and assistants for each kid and they have no interest in their children except for when they need to have a photo-op or something, but I don't think that is the case here. There is a certain model/actress/reality celebrity who is known for apparently being really good with her kids, but many items in the media indicate that she has no involvement in their lives and sees them as a burden and saddles them with multiple nannies. When she has to take care of them, she gets overwhelmed and cannot do it properly, and is totally out of control. And some around her and in her inner circle want her to get help or want the state to take over.
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Post by seaguy27 on Jan 9, 2015 2:26:59 GMT -5
There are still people who feel that Madonna bought the children to soften her image a la Angelina Jolie and then do humanitarian work. I think she genuinely loves all 4 of her children. I can see how some would think she has a different kind of love for her biological children. It did seem odd that she posted that "two halves of my heart" thing. I don't know what Madonna is like in private with her kids, but she seems like she is a good mom. We did see and hear some questionable stuff about Lourdes and Rocco, but what kid hasn't done something like that at that age? Lourdes seems to be on the right path for the most part. I have seen and read items about other celebrities who have multiple nannies and assistants for each kid and they have no interest in their children except for when they need to have a photo-op or something, but I don't think that is the case here. There is a certain model/actress/reality celebrity who is known for apparently being really good with her kids, but many items in the media indicate that she has no involvement in their lives and sees them as a burden and saddles them with multiple nannies. When she has to take care of them, she gets overwhelmed and cannot do it properly, and is totally out of control. And some around her and in her inner circle want her to get help or want the state to take over. So many options if one wants to simply soften their image…..also Madonna does not seem like the type that wants to do that. If anything she goes out of her way to not soften it in my opinion. I mean you never know….but I'm not going to make that judgement about any parent unless I know things first hand.
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Post by Hussy on Jan 9, 2015 2:48:37 GMT -5
If she can give a bj to Jesus then she can f*ck Muhammad and let Buddha take her ass.I like that chain face mask. It's really cool. #Gangbang OMG i guess this is the worst post I've ever read on Pulse, i feel soooooo much offended by this it's disgusting Reported to the power infinity!!!
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Post by die Lotterie on Jan 9, 2015 3:32:26 GMT -5
Really loving "Living For Love". It makes an excellent winter single, a definitely gem in the bleak current musical climate.
On another note though, being she's not making these pics, I wonder who she is hiring to make these ridiculous black liquorice twizzler face binding atrocities? What an awkward job that must be for whomever when one asks them what they do for a living. Poor Elvis fell victim today. If the twizzlers are going to be strangling their faces, why isn't she using #RebelBrains?
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jan 9, 2015 7:28:45 GMT -5
It's a shame she has absolutely nothing of substance to convey with this #livingforlove #rebelheart nonsense - which is really just the paradigm in which she perceives herself at this given moment. And so, she scatters these meaningless hashtags at random and any actual message is unfocused and diluted beyond reason or comprehension. I don't blame her for this phenomenon, though. Social media tends to reduce discourse to a fragmented conversation between narcissistic, ADHD-ridden 14-year-olds, so it's not surprising that even Madonna, who knows how to manipulate most media better than anyone, would fall victim to its inherent flaws.
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Post by floridagrl on Jan 9, 2015 7:44:46 GMT -5
Madonna‘s Living For Love is Hot Shot Debut at #32 on the Billboard Dance Club Songs Chart! (Issue date: 01/24/2015) For the second week in a row Living For Love is the most added record without remixes. *32 NEW Hot Shot Debut Living For Love Madonna Live Nation/Interscope
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 9, 2015 7:56:42 GMT -5
botoxic summed it up rather nicely. Some just can't help adding their half-cent of negativity to something that doesn't need it. Especially for those for whom Madonna is nowhere close to being one of their favorite artists.
Again, for anyone who who doesn't quite get it, "Rebel Heart" (and "Living For Love" and other song titles) is a concept, and far more than a f**ing album title. For those who don't, how about focusing on what is looking to be some kick-ass music that Her Madgesty will be granting us the privilege of having in our lives?
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