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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 25, 2014 8:13:53 GMT -5
I watched it! She was GREAT and she sung it live. There was just one moment where it sounded like she almost lost her breath but she nailed it for sure! It was heavily dubbed, but there were live parts here and there. She was great, but the song makes for a HELLA boring live performance.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 25, 2014 8:20:28 GMT -5
'You're Mine' was added to Beyoncé's VEVO playlist. :'(
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 8:29:25 GMT -5
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 10:16:24 GMT -5
I don't think she needs requests as much as she needs to increase exposure with live performances. The BET Honors performance definitely helped, but she should do Ellen or the Tonight Show. I would actually like it if she included the second verse to give the song a different element. Why isn't the album version available on i-tunes as well if the album version has the second verse?
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 25, 2014 10:31:11 GMT -5
A performance on the Tonight Show would be ideal. Also, they need to put a banner up on iTunes.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 25, 2014 10:33:26 GMT -5
'You're Mine' was added to Beyoncé's VEVO playlist. :'( I saw that, I was like "what the hell?" What do you think thats about?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 25, 2014 10:44:06 GMT -5
'You're Mine' was added to Beyoncé's VEVO playlist. :'( I saw that, I was like "what the hell?" What do you think thats about? Just Bey stanning a bit :'(
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 10:49:53 GMT -5
Bey was like let me help Mariah get some streaming points.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 11:22:25 GMT -5
That entire performance definitely would have made a better video than the video she has now.
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Post by lambdoll on Feb 25, 2014 12:55:00 GMT -5
I saw that, I was like "what the hell?" What do you think thats about? Just Bey stanning a bit :'( Still waiting for that collab :'(
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 13:22:26 GMT -5
Well we all know Queen B has a good ear for music lately! Queenz recognize other Queens.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 25, 2014 13:33:42 GMT -5
Taylor Swift also added "YM" to her VEVO list.
In re: to "Without You," for one it's just a great song. The lyric, melody, and chorus are incredible. On top of that, the vocal range Mariah shows on that song is just sick. Not many (any?) females can sing as low and high as she does on the song and do it that well. I actually prefer the live version from the NBC concert to the album version because it sounds less processed.
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Post by musiclover98 on Feb 25, 2014 14:35:55 GMT -5
The performance was alright. It was boring, but boring is better than bad. The audio we heard from the audience recording weeks back was different than what was heard on this broadcast. That leads to me to conclude there was dubbing/editing. Perhaps there was even footage and audio included from a separate performance recording without an audience. There's an article on yahoo speculating about whether it was a truly "live" performance. I think Mariah will now have such speculation for the majority of her televised performances. music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/did-mariah-carey-lip-synch-during-her-bet-honors-performance-064448668.html
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Post by die Lotterie on Feb 25, 2014 14:53:26 GMT -5
Loved that performance. It sounded live to me.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 15:24:50 GMT -5
There are subtle differences between this and the actual track that let me know that this was live mostly. I don't think parts of the ending were live.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 15:28:33 GMT -5
This talk of Without You brings me to ask am I the only one who hates that song. Well hate is a strong word but just indifferent and I haven't nor will I listen to it and Hero unless forced. Include that horrid Against All Odds into the mix too. I'm just not down for that s**t. I love her old school ballads however that didn't sound like those. I love Without You but could go the rest of my life without hearing Hero, to be frank. AAO is lovely and if either Mariah's or Phil's version comes on I don't rush to flip from it, but after years of watching Idol contestants make minced liver of it - if I, biggest lamb/Phil combo stan you'll ever meet, can't deal with it anymore, then you know it's time to lay the song to rest. I dont know about "Bye Bye" but I can almost say 100% that Mariah would never release " I Want To Know What Love Is" as the 2nd single. Thats the kinda song she has been running away from her entire career. The way it went down was this, the label read all the old ass music critics claiming it was a genius song and best thing on the album and fed into the lies and decided to release that. Really? Mariah has been doing schmaltzy covers her entire career - so I wouldn't exactly say she was "running away" from that kind of song. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that she supported it (at the time) as the second single. Well I don't know about that...Without You/Against All Odds/I Want to Know What Love Is are rather staid AC-driven covers, with almost whole emphasis on her sheer vocal prowess (not that her covers are devoid of emotion, I just personally find that Mariah's interpretation/expression stands out more on her original songs than on these three). In between AAO and IWTKWLI is an entire decade where Mariah did not do covers like that; the covers/samples she chose were old school r&b and hip-hop, in keeping with her own sound having moved in a more urban direction. Now when she recorded WY and AAO, Mariah may have been ok with them, as they fell in line with her sound on most of her other ballads then and Mariah was almost the textbook definition of what a 90s hit ballad sounded like. But by the time she got to MOAIA that style had not been popular for years - incidentally, almost the same number of years since Mariah's own sound and writing style had gone in a more r&b direction. So I could see why one would argue that she was probably 'over' it, or at the very least, recognized that it wasn't a proper single choice in any context. Whether it was Mariah or the label, it's apparent to me that whoever pushed for IWTKWLI's inclusion thought they had Without You pt. II on their hands, failing to take into account that even if IWTKWLI was that good that type of cover wasn't really current.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 15:33:00 GMT -5
I remember when she recorded her cover of Def Leppard's "Bringin' On The Heartbreak," she said something along the lines of that she was listening to their greatest hits album on an airplane and just got the sudden idea to cover the song. I've always viewed her 70s/80s lite-rock covers as more of a business decision intended to appeal to a particular audience (especially Europe and AC radio) rather than something she does truly for her love of those songs or that style of music. Not saying she dislikes those songs, but I think if it were purely up to her personal preferences, she would have chosen different songs to cover over the course of her career. It will be interesting to see what the two covers she recently recorded are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 15:40:58 GMT -5
Damn, I'd forgotten about BOTH. Oops!
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 25, 2014 16:05:27 GMT -5
I hear great emotion in Mariah's singing on "Against All Odds." I don't think it's a big stretch to assume it rang true to her in regards to her relationship with Derek; she has been quoted as saying she (naively) assumed he was perfect for her because of the mixed race heritage (which goes with the line, "You're the only one who really knew me at all"). We also pretty much know he left her because he couldn't handle her fame, and the general theme of the song would fit that ("How can I just let you walk away...").
For me the main problem with "AAO" is something that was an issue for all of her albums in that 1999-2002 time period (i.e. the Capri days); the mixing. The sound quality and mixing on a lot of those songs, including "AAO," is just really poor. I would love to get remastered versions of those albums to see if there is any real difference. "Bliss" does have a remastered version on that Playlist collection. I didn't notice a huge difference for it, but you can hear the ending of the "Rainbow Interlude" better in that remastered edition.
I like Mariah's choice in covering "Bringin' On The Heartbreak" because it was a bit surprising, and it's a cool song. I love the production on it; it's fairly grandiose in a way no other Mariah song is. My only complaint is that she uses the whisper vocals throughout. If she built that vocal more like the vocal on "Fly Like A Bird," her cover of "BOTH" would have been truly epic.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 16:20:27 GMT -5
The only cover that I love by her is The Beautiful Ones. All the others are just kind of meh not bad, but nothing amazing. I would rather she just write a new song.
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 25, 2014 16:21:40 GMT -5
I was disappointed with the performance. YM does not translate well live at all.
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Post by crdubb17 on Feb 25, 2014 17:13:18 GMT -5
LOL y'all don't remember the recording someone leaked of the BET performance a couple weeks back? She basically just lipped to the iTunes track. This tv audio is just classic Mariah dubbing in the studio after the performance was taped. I love my Mimi, but I hate that I ALWAYS have to question if she's singing something live on big TV awards. If she spent even half the energy she spends with all the studio trickery to seem perfect and dedicated that energy to perfecting the art of performing live, she'd probably be back to her 90's vocals! I literally can't remember the last time I honestly knew she was performing something fully live on tv, its probably been since the 06 Grammys (and people still debate if that was live).
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Post by get2nomey on Feb 25, 2014 19:05:28 GMT -5
I was disappointed with the performance. YM does not translate well live at all. I agree. I love Mariah, but I have to be critical. I was embarrassed for Mariah on the Bet show last night. She looks a mess with those big boobies hanging out. She looks like a tired old prostitute that is way past her prime. Her performance was totally lipped. What a disgrace. You're Mine is a flop. It's a dud. Aren't there people at the label who can keep her from putting out this drivel that she has been releasing. You're Mine is the best first single she could come up with? SMFH. What a shame that Mariah's career has come to this. She's done.
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Post by takingmytimetoday on Feb 25, 2014 19:18:52 GMT -5
I thought the performance was beautiful. I didn't like the camera angles though. I think it was dubbed here and there but mostly live. Doesn't sound exactly like the studio version . A flop or not, it has not even been given a chance by her fans. That's sad really. You're doing exactly what everyone else did during the Glitter fiasco - just write her off. Mariah clearly doesn't have to please ANYONE. Her real fans give a damn.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 25, 2014 19:26:41 GMT -5
Mimi seems to love her some 80s pop-rock tunes- remember her mouthing the words to "Wanted Dead or Alive" on Idol?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 19:32:25 GMT -5
What Mariah MUST do to save her career and end the haters lives forever is do another MTV Unplugged special. Remember at the beginning of the '90s when ppl thought she was a Milli Vanili type act where critics were questioning if she could sing live?? Then she shut them all up with Unplugged. I think she should do it again once this new album comes out. A few hits from TEOM-E=MC2 but most from this new album. It would bring her right back to #1 in everyone's mind.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 25, 2014 19:35:40 GMT -5
^I don't think an Unplugged special, at this stage, when MTV is not much about music, would do much of anything. Wold be nice to see her perform in that setting again, though.
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Post by get2nomey on Feb 25, 2014 19:59:15 GMT -5
^I don't think an Unplugged special, at this stage, when MTV is not much about music, would do much of anything. Wold be nice to see her perform in that setting again, though. I don't think an MTV Unplugged special would be good at all. With her ragged and tattered vocals she would just make herself look foolish. Remember how bad she was at singing I'll Be There at the Michael Jackson memorial special. She can't sing live without her voice cracking. It would be another fiasco for her. I think she should just hang it up and call it a career. She looks fat, out of shape, and tired and her music is stale pop R&B that doesn't get played on the radio very much these days. She's in another world. This era is going to be a flop like the Charmbracelet era. Mark my words.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 25, 2014 20:02:13 GMT -5
I think if anyone could get MTV to put out an Unplugged special again it would be Mariah. The only way it would work though is if Mariah made it about the music and not everything else. I think that is why it worked for her the first time because Mariah didn't bring her ego into things. That is why the BET Blueprint worked so well for her during TEOM because she made it again about the music. Like I said in another post, when Mariah makes it about the music, she is fine. When she goes into every other tangent she can find other than her music, that is when she fails with the public.
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Post by AngelsForever on Feb 25, 2014 20:08:12 GMT -5
I think people here should listen to the low quality clip again because it doesn't sound like the studio version AT ALL.
Just because you fav can't hold a note live don't come for Mariah.
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