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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 12:38:20 GMT -5
I think we're due for a daily update letting us know it's at #2139. :kii:
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Feb 26, 2014 12:47:39 GMT -5
^exactly.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 26, 2014 12:53:23 GMT -5
Hehehehehehehehehehehe So humorous, ya'll. I keep things in perspective- someone's got to, right? :) Some may get all excited about the number of adds, and then if no notable airplay results, their bubble is burst. Some look at my perspective as negative-leaning in some cases (imagine that), but, believe me, it is for these reasons, and not to be a Debbie Downer or rain on anyone's positive-outlook "parade." Hence, why I don't pay much attention to the adds, but rather the airplay that results.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 26, 2014 12:53:39 GMT -5
I mean I hope this track does go somewhere for her, but I do stand by the fact that there isn't anything that compels me to want to go out of my way to listen to it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 13:04:23 GMT -5
So I'm not going to co-sign with the way AngelsForever disagreed, but there are some differences. The biggest difference b/t the LQ leak of the BET Honors performance and the airing is definitely the high note at the end. On the BET airing Mariah extends one high note and she doesn't go for the trill that is in the recorded version. However, in the LQ leak the high note is the exact same as that on the iTunes download, with a little trill of three or four high notes. Also, if you go to the second time she sings 'I can't seem to live without your love...dying for your touch' - in the BET airing she sings "I. can't. seem. to." very staccato, very breathily, and she trills a bit on "touch." In the LQ this verse is NOT breathy and "touch" has no trill in it. Ok, I'm thoroughly confused. I KNOW there are obvious differences between the LQ leak of the performance and the actual airing of the performance (hence her going back to dub in the changes you've mentioned), but there are not any distinct vocal differences between the LQ leak of her performance and the studio version of the track. My point was that she lipped to the studio version in her original performance (the LQ leak) but dubbed in some different ad-libs for the airing that occurred weeks later to give us the illusion that she was singing it live. But I completely agree with the rest of your post, it is spot on with how I feel (but failed to articulate) on why she does these things. ohhh I see what you are saying. I thing I misunderstood what you were questioning as well, my bad. A lot of the LQ does sound very similar to the studio version, I agree. There was one part in the LQ though...of course now I can't remember which one...but it was just 'raw' enough that I thought it might have been different. I almost wonder if she was actually singing live and they captured that, but had the studio track playing over her voice in the building (so the audience wouldn't have heard her but they could use those live vocals on the airing later). I don't know. I just wish she wouldn't let her idea of 'perfection' get in the way so much, b/c that video on the previous page shows she still has a great voice even if she's no longer in her prime.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 20:20:30 GMT -5
That BET Performance should have been the music video, #FLAWLESS
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Post by theedge12 on Feb 27, 2014 0:28:25 GMT -5
That BET Performance should have been the music video, #FLAWLESS I agree it was a great performance! She's actually dancing a little.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 1:15:40 GMT -5
The benefits of Mariah jumping ship and going to a new label for the next era is 1) new label will expect more and push her 2) Mimi wants to please and will be more inclined to listen to them
Mimi wants to do s**t her way but she has too much pride to take a flop era lying down, she gonna throw JD and Island under her diva bus, talk about the horror and bad management AFTER she leaves and then crank out one last kick at the can for a big era!
My prediction for this era is that #Beautiful will turn out to be biggest hit and the album will sell about 382K in the US. End of the day the wildcard is quality of album for me the rest I done know. I hope quality wise I'm suprised and we get something on par with "Memoirs"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 1:40:11 GMT -5
I don't doubt she'll sell around 300-400k but I wouldn't be surprised if she still gets a Gold certification just from shipments like Fantasia did. Especially since Mimi, and her team, is so chart minded.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 27, 2014 3:41:24 GMT -5
She won't complain about J.D. unless they have a legit falling out and stop being friends. Trust and believe that. She is too far up his ass to say anything bad about that troll. I mean, I don't hear ANYONE else singing his praises but Mariah.
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Post by apoleb on Feb 27, 2014 5:30:00 GMT -5
When is the next first single?
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Feb 27, 2014 7:35:02 GMT -5
Hopefully real soon.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 27, 2014 8:52:20 GMT -5
Sorry. That joke was lost on me. Then again, I tend to only laugh when a joke is actually...you know...funny?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 27, 2014 9:58:36 GMT -5
Did anyone post the Ent. Weekly review of YM? (I got it from the mailbox just yesterday)
While I do like YM, the description is kinda true and chuckle-worthy.
Nowadays, Mariah's recipe for a song has about as much wiggle room as the instructions on a microwave dinner: Mix sultry vocals and teen-diary lyrics ("Autumn days and stormy nights/When you crushed me with your charms"), reheat a slow-jam beat, and top with a piercing high note. Like Pizza bagels, this somehow felt much fresher in the '90s.- C (Adam Markovitz)
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Feb 27, 2014 10:16:27 GMT -5
What worries me is that I remember some people gushing about this song. Saying is was the best song on the album. This?! Oh brother.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 27, 2014 10:19:17 GMT -5
The benefits of Mariah jumping ship and going to a new label for the next era is 1) new label will expect more and push her 2) Mimi wants to please and will be more inclined to listen to them Mimi wants to do s**t her way but she has too much pride to take a flop era lying down, she gonna throw JD and Island under her diva bus, talk about the horror and bad management AFTER she leaves and then crank out one last kick at the can for a big era! IDJ has been really good to Mariah considering the only album she's done for them that turned a big profit was probably TEOM. Look at how much they put into promoting "#B" and now "YM" (not to mention putting a little money into "T" for no reason); what other label would work that hard on an album that isn't likely to sell well anyway? Also consider that Mariah has pushed back pretty much every album she's done with IDJ; that has to be frustrating for the label (not to mention we know it cost them some money with this new album, if not past ones as well). Meanwhile, Mariah apparently recorded vocals for the entire bridge of "I Know What You Want" even though only the second half was used: http://instagram.com/p/k5IyYKj8GL
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 27, 2014 10:31:23 GMT -5
What worries me is that I remember some people gushing about this song. Saying is was the best song on the album. This?! Oh brother. I wouldn't read anything into that. When it comes to Mariah, no one can usually come to a consensus about anything.
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Post by Jay D83 on Feb 27, 2014 11:14:35 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Mariah apparently recorded vocals for the entire bridge of "I Know What You Want" even though only the second half was used: http://instagram.com/p/k5IyYKj8GL OMG!!!! Who was the DUMB ASS who cut her part!!?!?! I want THIS version now!
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 27, 2014 11:18:29 GMT -5
We probably got the radio version of that song.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 27, 2014 11:40:06 GMT -5
I have heard the full version. I forget where but I definitely remember it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 27, 2014 13:13:10 GMT -5
We probably got the radio version of that song. Well, those lines are in the video version, for instance, it's just that Busta sings them instead of Mariah: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDaNJW_jEBo
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Post by Dreams on Feb 27, 2014 14:43:21 GMT -5
What worries me is that I remember some people gushing about this song. Saying is was the best song on the album. This?! Oh brother. Lol, what? This the first time I'm hearing this. The only comment about "You're Mine (Eternal)" that I remember reading prior to its official release was when B. Scott tweeted, more than a year ago, that "this new Mariah ballad is a masterpiece" and that "what 'Triumphant' didn't do for some, this song will do for everyone". In any case, I, personally, live for "You're Mine". I can only hope that the rest of the album feels so intense to me as this song does. Per Mariah's interview with DJ SUSS ONE: *There's a lot of ballads on the album 'cause fans love them. Piano-led, vocal-driven, with choir. *The Hit-Boy and JD songs are uptempos. *There might be a song called "Kick Rocks" on the album. DJ SUSS mentioned that he liked it.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 27, 2014 15:09:10 GMT -5
What worries me is that I remember some people gushing about this song. Saying is was the best song on the album. This?! Oh brother. Lol, what? This the first time I'm hearing this. The only comment about "You're Mine (Eternal)" that I remember reading prior to its official release was when B. Scott tweeted, more than a year ago, that "this new Mariah ballad is a masterpiece" and that "what 'Triumphant' didn't do for some, this song will do for everyone". In any case, I, personally, live for "You're Mine". I can only hope that the rest of the album feels so intense to me as this song does. Per Mariah's interview with DJ SUSS ONE: *There's a lot of ballads on the album 'cause fans love them. Piano-led, vocal-driven, with choir. *The Hit-Boy and JD songs are uptempos. *There might be a song called "Kick Rocks" on the album. DJ SUSS mentioned that he liked it. Interesting, so that must mean the one with Wale is "uptempo" as she said in one of her interviews that he was on a JD produced song. Hmmm...wonder if Nas is on one of the faster tempo songs.
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Post by weaver on Feb 27, 2014 19:50:22 GMT -5
Just watched the BET performance...I don't know whether or not it's fully live, but it's not the same as the studio version. I'm a little weary of picking apart the performances. It was a nice, pretty performance of the song.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 23:12:22 GMT -5
How many tracks do you think we'll be getting? I wouldn't be surprised if IDJ cheaps out and releases only like 10-12 songs on the final tracklisting after Memoirs had like 27 songs and only went Gold.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 28, 2014 0:57:08 GMT -5
Mariah's definition of "uptempo" isn't really the same as what most people mean by that term.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 1:16:32 GMT -5
The benefits of Mariah jumping ship and going to a new label for the next era is 1) new label will expect more and push her 2) Mimi wants to please and will be more inclined to listen to them Mimi wants to do s**t her way but she has too much pride to take a flop era lying down, she gonna throw JD and Island under her diva bus, talk about the horror and bad management AFTER she leaves and then crank out one last kick at the can for a big era! IDJ has been really good to Mariah considering the only album she's done for them that turned a big profit was probably TEOM. Look at how much they put into promoting "#B" and now "YM" (not to mention putting a little money into "T" for no reason); what other label would work that hard on an album that isn't likely to sell well anyway? Also consider that Mariah has pushed back pretty much every album she's done with IDJ; that has to be frustrating for the label (not to mention we know it cost them some money with this new album, if not past ones as well). Key difference is that LA Reid is no longer there. I kind of wonder if LA's absence is the reason this era has been such a mess with the never-ending singles and moving release date. E=MC2 and MOAIA weren't runaway smashes but at least the promotion for those albums was decently organized and the lead singles performed well. They didn't always agree on single choices but Reid kept her focused, or at least that is how it seemed. Mariah might have no qualms about throwing the label under the bus for this one last era, but if so she would do it indirectly - instead of talking about how awful the label was for her she'd maybe go out of her way to sing LA's praises and how much she missed him when he left. Doubt JD will ever be trashed; at most she'll quietly 'part ways' with little to no fanfare, just like she did with Randy.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 28, 2014 8:26:32 GMT -5
Her relationship with JD looks to be even tighter than that with Randy Jackson.
This coming Tuesday will be nine weeks from the announced album-release date. A title and some more info would be welcome.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Feb 28, 2014 9:12:25 GMT -5
I don't think she will be putting out much more information until closer to the album release date, so she has talking points for her promo. Not that she ever answers the questions asked of her anyway, lol.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 28, 2014 12:53:22 GMT -5
IDJ has been really good to Mariah considering the only album she's done for them that turned a big profit was probably TEOM. Look at how much they put into promoting "#B" and now "YM" (not to mention putting a little money into "T" for no reason); what other label would work that hard on an album that isn't likely to sell well anyway? Also consider that Mariah has pushed back pretty much every album she's done with IDJ; that has to be frustrating for the label (not to mention we know it cost them some money with this new album, if not past ones as well). Key difference is that LA Reid is no longer there. I kind of wonder if LA's absence is the reason this era has been such a mess with the never-ending singles and moving release date. E=MC2 and MOAIA weren't runaway smashes but at least the promotion for those albums was decently organized and the lead singles performed well. They didn't always agree on single choices but Reid kept her focused, or at least that is how it seemed. Mariah might have no qualms about throwing the label under the bus for this one last era, but if so she would do it indirectly - instead of talking about how awful the label was for her she'd maybe go out of her way to sing LA's praises and how much she missed him when he left. At the end of the day, those things still fall on Mariah. Reid may have kept her more focused (my bet is just that she liked/trusted him more, so she was more willing to work with him), but at the end of the day Mariah is still the most directly responsible. She is the one who delayed the album last year, and she is the one who wanted "Triumphant" and "TAOLG" released. The label conceded on "T," which may have been a mistake in one sense, but may have served a purpose in another sense (like being a goodwill gesture to Mariah). The label clearly refused to support "TAOLG," so Mariah and JD went rogue on that one. You can't blame the label for that.
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