Mariah Carey: "IT'S TIME" 👑

[shakemaki]

Sept 27, 2024 22:44:21 GMT -5 Positive Tension said:

Yup, it's undeniably one of her signature hits now.

I was actually just thinking about this recently and wondering what might have been if it had been the lead from E=MC2 instead of Memoirs. E killed a lot of her comeback momentum, and while TMB was able to coast off TEOM, I think Obsessed could have made a much bigger splash with all the hype for that era. It was overall still the bigger CHR hit out of the two.

[sundaymorningguy]

Oct 2, 2024 1:17:30 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Sept 27, 2024 22:44:21 GMT -5 Positive Tension said:

Yup, it's undeniably one of her signature hits now.

I was actually just thinking about this recently and wondering what might have been if it had been the lead from E=MC2 instead of Memoirs. E killed a lot of her comeback momentum, and while TMB was able to coast off TEOM, I think Obsessed could have made a much bigger splash with all the hype for that era. It was overall still the bigger CHR hit out of the two.

I think TMB worked well. I think the choice in follow-up is what killed the E era. I think she started that era out very strong, then the follow-up and pivoting to focus on Nick Cannon did the damage. I mean she was chugging along and then bam left turn. I think everyone was trying to figure out the Nick Cannon thing and even she was trying to figure out the Nick Cannon thing, and music got lost.

[jenglisbe]

The 2 year gap between "DFAU" and E=MC2 didn't help either. "Touch My Body" did its job, but it definitely coasted a bit off good vibes from TEOM (its #8 peak at Top 40 was well below WBT, SIO, and DFAU). Mariah definitely lost some momentum in that 2 year gap. E=MC2 was initially scheduled to come out in late 2007. It certainly would have sold better then if only because of holiday sales, but I also wonder if being 6 months or so closer to the TEOM success would have helped as well.

And, yeah, "Bye Bye" didn't perform well, but media attention shifting to the quickie marriage to Nick didn't help either. She did continue to promote the album, though, but all momentum had been lost. Ultimately the album didn't have much of a narrative; TEOM to the second power wasn't enough.

[sundaymorningguy]

I focused more on the what is going on with Mariah with the whole Nick Cannon moment. I forgot about the music because even when she did promote, it was very Nick centric. It was very off “brand” for her to be so open and very public forward with her relationship, so it really threw me off. If you look at her romantic history, she was never as forthcoming about anything as she was about her relationship with Nick.

[shakemaki]

Yeah, TMB got very lucky with momentum based on its lack of longevity and the honestly very poor radio performance compared to the TEOM hits. Migrate was always the “it’s right there!!” blatant smash of EMC2. Though the irony is the song sounds dated as hell today lol, but it couldn’t have been more perfect for the mainstream soundscape of 07-08. I think it especially would have been massive if released in 07 when the album was originally planned for. Imagine it coming hot off the heels of T-Pain’s Buy U a Drank smashing… prob woulda been a 10+ weeker at the top of the h100.

On an aside, I will never forget how the media hyped up Bye Bye during pre-release listening parties. I even remember one pub (I wanna say billboard) saying it was the “insurance” of the album - the song that if all else failed, they had a guaranteed #1 smash to fall back on. Lololol.

I honestly wonder if that media pre-release attention for it is what convinced them it had to be one of the first two singles. I for one know from the moment I first heard it I was like…. “Ummm… is the #1 smash in the room with us”??

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

I still enjoy this and it's a continuation of should I say basically a add on to the Memoirs era.

[jenglisbe]

^ I love Mariah's verse on that one. I like the song a lot in general, though the chorus is too repetitive.

Meanwhile The Emancipation of Mimi has been included on Vibe's list of the 50 greatest Black albums of the modern era.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

Happy anniversary 🎉

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

[jenglisbe]

Meanwhile, Grammy submissions are coming out, and apparently Ariana's team didn't submit the "yes and?" remix but did submit "the boy is mine" remix.

[#LisaRinna]

Oct 3, 2024 7:25:31 GMT -5 Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint said:

Happy anniversary 🎉

I was too busy blasting it front to back to comment yesterday, but HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to a pivotal album in Pop music. Melodies, vocals and sound choices that have inspired and influenced upcoming artists for an entire generation. A true masterpiece, a gem, a DAYDREAM.

I'm so proud of this album.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

You can stream a billion but until twenty years later you can do this , don't @ Me. True classics are forever

http://instagram.com/p/DAvuPNrpW38

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

[munx 🐒🎯]

‘We Belong Together’ is really that bitch! 🫰

[#LisaRinna]

Oct 5, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -5 Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint said:

Giving us old Hollywood glamour!

[Push The Button]

Target has a buy 2, get 1 free sale on vinyls this week. If you’re missing any of her vinyls this is probably the best price they’ll ever be.

[🌺T.A.T.I🌺]

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

Oct 6, 2024 14:22:13 GMT -5 🌺T.A.T.I🌺 said:

So she is performing two songs! Good WBT and DFAU

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

http://instagram.com/p/DAzczrooXpl

[cjay]

Very nice and consistent vocal performance from the queen!

[casperr0430]

Holy, that was an excellent performance. The adlibs were amazing.

[adamalterlago]

Masterclass. She looks and sounds amazing.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

She just proved why We Belong Together is timeless that crowd ATE it up baby

[Hefty Hanna]

The switch ups she added are sublime. WBT has stood the test of time so well.

[jenglisbe]

The intro clips were great and it was a great performance! I am confused about that small "DFAU" intro, though.

[Eqbk]

The AMA performance has been uploaded to her youtube channel:

[#LisaRinna]

That lower case m looked cheap as fuck!! They should've used the MC logo she had on the 2006 tour. Also where was DFAU?