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Post by divasummer on Dec 5, 2014 12:29:15 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be watching a Trainwreck as well. It wasn't that bad. If she didn't try to do all the head notes it wouldn't have been too obvious that she was having a somewhat off night. I have a feeling it's getting so much media attention because she was SO late the prior evening and kept everyone waiting. I've listened to the mic feed vocals too and I again didn't think they were as bad as people think. However I follow Mariah and have heard the good and the bad and maybe that's why I wasn't taken back by her performance the other night????
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 12:47:42 GMT -5
see this is more delusion. You know her concert didnt last two hours. you know she lip synched more than half of the show you saw. So why say these things and make out that she is doing things that she isnt live. Lambs need to start being real. See, now this is trolling. How on Earth do you know this? She's been singing live at her concert the entire tour. Go check the f**king videos if you don't believe me... I don't mind if you don't like her, if you didn't like her performance the other night, but DONT exclude facts just to make up some sort of an argument/comeback. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's false. No its not trolling. She sang some of the concert live. She lipsynched a lot of it. Are you trying to tell me that Fantasy was live, that any of the carride meledy was sang live, that anything apart from the first verse of cry in the last few concerts was live, that thirsty or supernatural was ever sang live on that stage ? ive watched every video from every show and i know what was live and what wasnt live so stop misrepresenting facts and then trying to say im being false when im not.
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 12:49:33 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be watching a Trainwreck as well. It wasn't that bad. If she didn't try to do all the head notes it wouldn't have been too obvious that she was having a somewhat off night. I have a feeling it's getting so much media attention because she was SO late the prior evening and kept everyone waiting. I've listened to the mic feed vocals too and I again didn't think they were as bad as people think. However I follow Mariah and have heard the good and the bad and maybe that's why I wasn't taken back by her performance the other night???? I think the biggest issue is that the GP are hearing the original version all over the media and radio at this time. AIWFCIY original version is everywhere so thats what it is being compared to. Obviously not fair on Mariah but thats what i think is why the general public will percieve this as terrible.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Dec 5, 2014 13:39:17 GMT -5
People are cruel, I hope Mariah is alright.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Dec 5, 2014 13:48:49 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat.
Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling?
Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Dec 5, 2014 13:51:52 GMT -5
Debbie Gibson Speaks on Mariah
Pop star Debbie Gibson took to her official Facebook page earlier to speak on Mariah's Christmas in Rockefeller Center performance. See below:
Hey Everyone!
I wanted to share my thoughts on something many pop music fans are talking about ... Mariah's performance at the NYC Tree Lighting Ceremony.
I watched - with anticipation - as the show started and Mariah took the stage. I have long been a fan of both the Vocal Diva and the Woman. This woman, as a young girl, wrote me a handwritten letter just as she was hitting the charts to explain a comment that got taken out of context in an interview she did. What came out as a diss was meant as, "If Debbie can be doing this and she is so young, why can't I…?!?" The fact she took the time to reach out so personally, in the midst of the beginnings of her chaotic world domination, has stuck with me forever.
I could tell instantly as Mariah took the stage that she was burdened by something. I had heard on one of the entertainment shows that she was late for the taping the night before due to an overtime call with her divorce lawyers or something...I am repeating tabloid fodder. Now, I know the people out there making nasty remarks are not all singers but, it doesn't take a rocket scientist - or a Met Soprano - to understand that "divorce" and "singing on television" are not a great combo. I felt for her. And, I admired her. She could have been a "no show." She could have lip-synced. But, she chose to bare all that was going on in her life and to give what she had. She brought her reality to her timeless soulful perky Christmas anthem.
As people in this country and around the world sing carols this year, will they all be feeling truly happy and perky, and flowy, and free of burden? Will this year be the same as, let's say their best or favorite year? Do they all look like they did when they had no adult responsibilities? Or might they be smiling through the pain of a lost house or bankruptcy or divorce or a health issue or whatever, in order to put on a brave face so as not to burden others?!?
I don't know what the haters saw. But, I saw a real woman on that stage. One who has given us her gifts and joy and talent, which is raw and God given, and that which only comes with countless hours of hard work and discipline. She once lived in a bubble of practice and vocal rest and eating a certain way and excluding all "normal" life pleasures in order to bring us all that shiny glossy look and sound we now associate with her. But, much like olympic athletes, there comes a certain point where you can either keep running toward the gold medal, or you can strike a balance in your life. Maybe the high notes aren't as high onstage, but the high notes she has with her kids are higher offstage!
The pop stars of our day had to pound the pavement, do countless shows (that do not live on on YouTube), kiss babies, shake radio program directors' hands, and sit through loud dinners with obnoxious business men…all to get our music heard. There were no TV Idols and only a few awards shows in which to make an impact. Nail one of those and you were on top. Blow it, and it wasn't like "Oh, there's another one next week." It is an intense pace to keep up. Many of the other performers on that stage - except for Tony Bennett and Cyndi Lauper - are still in their first chapter. Mariah has been enduring for a long long time. And will be for many years to come.
Mariah has nailed it SO many times. And she is clearly not performing 365 days a year right now as she did at some point. It is harder to pop in and out of your life and onto the stage when not is a "flow." The younger stars who have no "dependents" can be completely selfish and do all they need to do to serve their voices and careers. I don't say this with any disrespect to them. It is just where they are in their lives. We all were there. They should relish this time because, at some point, life is going to get more complicated. I know ALL about it. But this woman is daring to have a life that encompasses more than just show biz. And, I am sure when she committed to doing this performance she did not anticipate that she would be dealing with the circumstances she is dealing with. I don't know that I could have been standing upright, let alone looking fabulous and pouring her heart out in the freezing cold.
Anyone can work hard enough to do a perfectly glossy performance, with never a real moment of connection with the audience or themselves. Mariah was naked up there. We could all see her real life pain. Whether or not it was perfect vocals, (whatever that means), makes no difference. It was her…real…live...in the middle of life…and I would venture to say she did not withhold anything from us, right?!? She brought HER BEST. And, can we ever ask anything more of anyone than to give us THEIR BEST?!?
I hope Mariah can put in perspective the meaning of all this and focus on the higher meaning in her life. I also hope all the naysayers can do the same. In a world of "what have you done for me lately," I wanted to write this to celebrate ALL she has given of herself throughout the years, and never more so than she did in her latest performance.
With respect,
DEBBIE
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 14:09:05 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. Attachment Deleted
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 5, 2014 14:11:03 GMT -5
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 14:12:11 GMT -5
Dont respond to him. A) he has 129 posts and only 18 likes= bad ratings B) his 129 posts are just digs at Mimi when he wants to troll C) He lied he isnt fit nor tanned. A true i have 129 posts, the likes are subjective B lies i have complimented Mariah also C lies, see my photo darling Coco To sum up: You can kiss my abs, pick any one, i have six
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Post by vipanonymous on Dec 5, 2014 14:16:10 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. View AttachmentSTOP! Trying to seduce me. I don't care. It wasn't her greatest performance ever, but it wasn't her worst either. I'm okay with that.
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 14:17:43 GMT -5
Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. STOP! Trying to seduce me. I don't care. It wasn't her greatest performance ever, but it is wasn't her worst either. I'm okay with that. I agree with you on that. I think she did ok.
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Post by Albie on Dec 5, 2014 14:33:21 GMT -5
STOP! Trying to seduce me. I don't care. It wasn't her greatest performance ever, but it is wasn't her worst either. I'm okay with that. I agree with you on that. I think she did ok. Funny thing. I'm pretty sure most people in this thread have said all along that she was ok (to sum it up). Not great, not awful. So why are you causing a hubbub if you've always more or less agreed?
Also, a more appropriate place for your abs can be found here. Example of images that are more appropriate around here:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 14:42:51 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. at this post. People can offer differing opinions without being "haters," as you say. I love Mariah, but honestly I don't watch most of her recent performances. It doesn't mean that I think she should retire or that I'm hating on her. I love and respect the Mariah of the early days, but I'm not going to pretend everyone has to think she's great these days.
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Post by cjay on Dec 5, 2014 14:50:41 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. View AttachmentI think we need more pictures :)
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Dec 5, 2014 15:09:25 GMT -5
Coco? Come out come out wherever you are.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 5, 2014 15:17:58 GMT -5
@spiritanimal you got mail sis!
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Post by Mean A$$ on Dec 5, 2014 15:21:38 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. at this post. People can offer differing opinions without being "haters," as you say. I love Mariah, but honestly I don't watch most of her recent performances. It doesn't mean that I think she should retire or that I'm hating on her. I love and respect the Mariah of the early days, but I'm not going to pretend everyone has to think she's great these days. You should love and respect Mariah period if you ever had any respect for her. Look at all she has accomplished and all that she has done. She's an ICON. Now because she can't hold a note for as long as she could or she has a bad performance, she's dismissed? Plus Mariah can still today sing better than most singers out there. You can't dismiss true talent.
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Post by George on Dec 5, 2014 15:26:33 GMT -5
I finally got around to watching this and it wasn't near the train wreck it is being made out to be. Yeah, I ended up watching the (audio only) version first, and then the televised (with music/backup singers) one and her performance was just fine. I kinda wish we still lived in a time where leaks/behind the scenes drama didn't ruin our public portrayal of favorite singers. Also, I just realized right now that Mariah didn't get any Grammys noms today. DARN GRAMMYS! I really would've loved to have seen the album get at least one nod!
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 15:39:22 GMT -5
I agree with you on that. I think she did ok. Funny thing. I'm pretty sure most people in this thread have said all along that she was ok (to sum it up). Not great, not awful. So why are you causing a hubbub if you've always more or less agreed?
Also, a more appropriate place for your abs can be found here. Example of images that are more appropriate around here:
I didnt cause a hubub. As usual i was attacked for no reason when i made a simple non insulting comment. And when i am accused of lying about my skin colour and fitness level by someone ( darling Coco) i have a right to respond and defend myself. That is all. Moving on.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Dec 5, 2014 15:45:53 GMT -5
At this point I would really appreciate it if Mariah's MANAGEMENT, PR WHOEVER THEY ARE be pro active and try and bok some kind of deal with some network for a 1 night only unplugged type special. Mariah, at this time in her life, sounds best in this setting. She's got it, we all know she's still got it. Even the haters with Madonna and Carrie Underwood avatars in this thread know she's still got it that's why they've come up in here to "critique". Girl, please, you did not come in here to critique, you came in here to gloat. Some of these posters, namely fitandtan, I have never seen post in any other thread besides this one and it's always to say s**t about Mariah. 100 and something posts and that's all you've got to say? Isn't this the definition of trolling? Doing a special like this, shutting up all the haters, would be really satisfying. I know it still wouldn't be enough for people that hate our mulatto songstress for all she's accomplished, nor does Mariah owe it to ANYONE. But her team should really capaitalze on this and turn this press into good press and quit sitting like lame ducks. Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. You are such a butterface
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Post by die Lotterie on Dec 5, 2014 15:58:52 GMT -5
I'm so f**king dead at the pic above. Is it too late for post of the year nomination submissions? Who is that man? I'm slightly disappointed because even though it's fit like a skinny plank of chicken from Long John Silvers with four limbs (only two of those four limbs apparently partaking in gym activities), it's not tan, lacking the brown crisp color we were all led to believe existed and anticipated. #FalseAdvertising #RefundPlease #OverHyped #EgotisticalForNoReason #OopsIMayHaveJustUnintentionallyOuttannedYou ... Anyways, I'll add something that actually possesses any relevance, AIWFCY is sitting pretty at #20 on iTunes with green bars! Work the media and chase that paper, MC!
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Post by surfy on Dec 5, 2014 16:04:31 GMT -5
This thread is a damn mess. A hot one, but a mess nonetheless.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 5, 2014 16:10:06 GMT -5
Get your coins Mimi!!
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 16:11:48 GMT -5
Refusing to accept the facts again. I have wrote many times that Mariah sounds good when she has sounded good. And here is my photo. I think we need more pictures :) Attachment Deleted
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Post by cjay on Dec 5, 2014 16:29:34 GMT -5
I don't see a tan, but I can't deny your cuteness! I'll give you a temporary pass on the Mimi bashing today. LMAO!
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 16:53:24 GMT -5
I'm so f**king dead at the pic above. Is it too late for post of the year nomination submissions? Who is that man? I'm slightly disappointed because even though it's fit like a skinny plank of chicken from Long John Silvers with four limbs (only two of those four limbs apparently partaking in gym activities), it's not tan, lacking the brown crisp color we were all led to believe existed and anticipated. #FalseAdvertising #RefundPlease #OverHyped #EgotisticalForNoReason #OopsIMayHaveJustUnintentionallyOuttannedYou ... Anyways, I'll add something that actually possesses any relevance, AIWFCY is sitting pretty at #20 on iTunes with green bars! Work the media and chase that paper, MC!Pretty sure im in better shape than you. So easy to attempt to insult from behind a screen. PS Im a runner, im supposed to look like that so have a seat.
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 16:54:16 GMT -5
I don't see a tan, but I can't deny your cuteness! I'll give you a temporary pass on the Mimi bashing today. LMAO! In this one im not so tanned. Winter in europe X
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Dec 5, 2014 16:57:11 GMT -5
I'm so f**king dead at the pic above. Is it too late for post of the year nomination submissions? Who is that man? I'm slightly disappointed because even though it's fit like a skinny plank of chicken from Long John Silvers with four limbs (only two of those four limbs apparently partaking in gym activities), it's not tan, lacking the brown crisp color we were all led to believe existed and anticipated. #FalseAdvertising #RefundPlease #OverHyped #EgotisticalForNoReason #OopsIMayHaveJustUnintentionallyOuttannedYou ... Anyways, I'll add something that actually possesses any relevance, AIWFCY is sitting pretty at #20 on iTunes with green bars! Work the media and chase that paper, MC!Pretty sure im in better shape than you. So easy to attempt to insult from behind a screen. PS Im a runner, im supposed to look like that so have a seat. You aren't though.
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Post by fitandtanned on Dec 5, 2014 16:59:56 GMT -5
I don't see a tan, but I can't deny your cuteness! I'll give you a temporary pass on the Mimi bashing today. LMAO! Attachment DeletedIm white My tan comes and goes lol
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Post by die Lotterie on Dec 5, 2014 17:02:49 GMT -5
I'm so f**king dead at the pic above. Is it too late for post of the year nomination submissions? Who is that man? I'm slightly disappointed because even though it's fit like a skinny plank of chicken from Long John Silvers with four limbs (only two of those four limbs apparently partaking in gym activities), it's not tan, lacking the brown crisp color we were all led to believe existed and anticipated. #FalseAdvertising #RefundPlease #OverHyped #EgotisticalForNoReason #OopsIMayHaveJustUnintentionallyOuttannedYou ... Anyways, I'll add something that actually possesses any relevance, AIWFCY is sitting pretty at #20 on iTunes with green bars! Work the media and chase that paper, MC!Pretty sure im in better shape than you. So easy to attempt to insult from behind a screen. PS Im a runner, im supposed to look like that so have a seat. Perhaps…I fancy a run now and then, but my calf and thigh muscles are already gorgeous through genetics. though I don't resemble Chris Kattan (fortunately), I'm skinny with V lines that would make you drool like a little baby bitch, but I'm not gonna perch in here and talk about how much my body slays. With that said and now having a little more insight into your exercise regimen that I never cared much about in the first place, I don't see this conversation appropriate in the Artist Discussion section, not to mention in the Queen's thread. If you would like to disperse and take shallow up a couple notches, PM me. Perhaps I'll get back to you in a few days. Added pics aren't doing you any favors, either. If you would like to continue to spam your surfboard shaped body, I'm certain you know where the PYP thread lives… Or at least do it in a Pitbull or Christina thread where nobody would care.
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