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Post by 14887fan on Aug 25, 2014 13:17:35 GMT -5
So... thoughts on chart performance of this song? I had hoped it would be almost to the top aka off the radio by now to make way for a better single from Miranda. I am curious to see if people think this will get to #1 naturally considering the pretty high negatives or will the label make an annoyingly obnoxious push to force this to the top? It looks like it's selling well but it's had some uneven updates over the last couple of weeks, so I have no idea, to be honest. I don't think it'll make it to #1, and that frustrates the hell out of me. It's an all-female collaboration by the format's two biggest and most popular women. Good song or not, having a song like this go #1 would've been such a huge statement. Having it miss #1 is an even bigger statement, though, and a really poor one against Country radio, at that.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 25, 2014 15:09:05 GMT -5
While the updates haven't been the greatest, I think it's too early to rule out a #1 yet. The problem is that so many bigger names jumped them (and there's not too many bigger names than Miranda & Carrie, so that shows really just how unlucky they have been). Kenny, Jason, and FGL all had new songs with clear channel treatment, and Luke has a current big hit as well that have jumped this song. Let's remember though, even though it's a duet with Carrie, Miranda hasn't been the best when it comes to the charts. Just look at Eric Church, his song has been struggling even more than this one. Once this makes the top 10 in a few weeks, I think it will really start having some better updates.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 19:12:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see any way that this misses out on #1. It's not going to be the mega-colossal smash that most thought it would be, but I still expect a solid Platinum #1 here. It's definitely been moving slowly, but there's an easy explanation for that, which dm2081 covered quite nicely. Huge lead singles from Jason, Kenny, Lady A, and FGL, plus a new single from the unstoppable Luke Bryan. I mean, just look at the top 10 on Mediabase right now. Dierks at #1, a bullet of 173 (and it was over 200 yesterday). Tim at #2, a bullet of 608 (and it was over 800 yesterday), Lady A with a bullet of over 300, Kenny and Dustin with bullets over 400, Cole Swindell's bullet is over 600, FGL and Luke have 500 bullets, and Jason is close to a +600 bullet. The way radio operates has changed a lot in just the last 1-3 years. Radio stations spins their "powers" more and more, which results in songs outside the top 10 and way down into the 20's having slower updates for a while until they can find an opening into the top 10. Miranda and Carrie aren't the only ones moving slowly. Chase Rice has labored up the chart for 40 weeks and I suspect that Sony wants to get his song into the top 10 before letting it go. Brantley Gilbert is following up a huge #1 and he even has Thomas Rhett and Justin Moore along for the ride, and yet his song is barely moving right now (even less so than "Somethin' Bad"). Zac Brown Band has only missed the top 2 once since 2008 but "All Alright" isn't likely to get there (it's their slowest climbing single since they first hit the scene, and I doubt it makes the top 10). Eric Church is really moving slowly, and Rascal Flatts' new one looks highly likely to under-perform. Lee Brice and Brad Paisley are going to be the next ones to fall off the chart--both of them will drop off Billboard a week from today. Chase Rice will probably get one of those top 10 spots, and then the other will go to Aldean. After that, Dierks and Tim will be starting down (and possibly Chase as well), so radio will start looking down the list for the next 'worthy' song to start blasting on power rotation, and the first songs they will see will be "Somethin' Bad" and "Small Town Throwdown". Some rough timing for this one for sure, but I fully expect it to pick up the pace as soon as it can grab one of those coveted top 10 openings. One other thing...I'm curious, mylifeback, what did you mean by your remark of "high negatives"? This one seems to be testing just fine, even on a survey (Callout America) that is currently skewed much more toward the younger male demographic (hence why a song like Maddie & Tae's "Girl In A Country Song" is way down at the bottom of that chart despite very strong sales). We're also seeing this with artists like Kacey Musgraves and RaeLynn, although to a much lesser extent.
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Post by mylifeback on Aug 25, 2014 20:15:54 GMT -5
^^^ Well, now I can't remember if it's the chart in Country Weekly or the weekly BB report, but I've noticed the last couple times I've looked that it has the highest "dislike" ratings on the chart. It caught my eye because I thought "oh, I'm not the only one who hates this song". lol
Anyway, I was just curious what others thought of the chart run since there hadn't been any comments in quite a while. Even though I'm not a fan of the song, I have been surprised it hasn't been moving up the charts more strongly (and I'm referring to MB since it's the one we can see on a daily basis).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 20:37:23 GMT -5
^^^ Well, now I can't remember if it's the chart in Country Weekly or the weekly BB report, but I've noticed the last couple times I've looked that it has the highest "dislike" ratings on the chart. It caught my eye because I thought "oh, I'm not the only one who hates this song". lol Billboard publishes the call-out charts (Callout America comes out with the Monday Airplay chart, and Radiofeedback comes out with Thursday's Hot Country Songs; both call-out charts come from the company Bullseye). Anyway, "Somethin' Bad" is at #13 overall on tonight's Callout America report, which is a pretty strong position. It's negative number is only ever-so-slightly higher than current tunes from Scotty McCreery (and he's #9 overall--testing very well), Chase Rice, Cole Swindell, and Brantley Gilbert. Meanwhile, tunes from Little Big Town, Zac Brown Band, Sam Hunt, Kacey Musgraves, Brothers Osborne, and others have higher dislike scores. And the one thing I've noticed about these songs is that they (IMO) sound quite a bit different than your average radio material. Also, as I mentioned in my last post, the Callout America sample seems to be obviously skewing toward a younger male demographic right now, which makes sense because that's who radio (and really the entire country music industry) has been catering to. The current top 5 at Callout America is Eli Young Band's "Dust", Florida Georgia Line's "Dirt" (only 2.7% total dislike), Luke Bryan's "Roller Coaster", Rascal Flatts' "Payback", and Jason Aldean's "Burnin' It Down" (only 0.3 % total dislike). Admittedly, Luke's song really isn't a bro-country song, but Luke (along with Jason and FGL) is who's popular at radio right now. And Jason's song is getting virtually no dislike from loyal country listeners despite quite a lot of negativity on social media, iTunes comments, etc. A chart like Callout America reflects what the most loyal listeners are enjoying (and what they don't enjoy). So it makes sense that some of the bro-country songs are testing very well, because listeners screened in such a survey likely enjoy 90% or more of what they hear on the radio, whereas someone who wants to hear the new Maddie & Tae song, for example, isn't nearly as likely to be screened by such a survey (because many of these people who like music other than bro-country have been listening to radio less and less). This really explains why many of the female artists get lumped toward the bottom of the call-out reports, and why radio is therefore hesitant to play them. It's not that people don't want to hear these songs (which is radio's belief), it's just that those people aren't listening to radio very much because radio isn't catering to them--instead radio has been hyper-focusing on the younger male demographic. I bring up the Maddie & Tae song because it's a really good example--just look at the video views and downloads for that one. Tons of people are enjoying the song and yet it's performance so far on the Callout America report isn't that good...the bro-country fans don't want to hear it. But it seems to be the one non-bro song that radio is "letting through" right now given the response it's gotten online. Miranda and Carrie as solo artists are among the minority at radio (aka females), and yet they often out-sell their male peers (with the exception of a few), have bigger tours, and their videos get watched just as much if not more often. But the Callout America report isn't likely to give an accurate 'read' on how most listeners feel about female artists (because again, radio is so skewed toward younger males right now), so all things considered, "Somethin' Bad"--at #13 overall--is actually testing very well there.
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Post by Marv on Aug 25, 2014 21:51:47 GMT -5
Carrie & Miranda ranked 9th and 10th in total airplay last year, so there indeed are very few artists bigger than they are right now.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 25, 2014 22:18:40 GMT -5
I'm with dm2081 and jhomes87 on "Somethin' Bad"'s chart run so far. I would also add that I don't think Sony Nashville is in a hurry on this song...it is selling well weekly, holding up Miranda's album sales nicely, keeping Carrie on the radio while she works on her next album, and keeping both fanbases engaged voting for the very popular video. The divide on this song at Callout America is pretty cleanly generational. "Somethin' Bad" ranks #3 (by total positive) among males younger than 34 and #4 (again, by total positive) among females younger than 34, but #20 and #23 among females and males over the age of 34, respectively. Among all listeners aged 25-34, "Somethin' Bad" is ranked #1. The current Callout America results for "Somethin' Bad" track pretty closely with those for Florida-Georgia Line's "Dirt" when broken down by age group, which probably doesn't mean much but strikes me as a funny coincidence. But to the extent that this song is intended to appeal to the demo that has driven the party-hard rock sound at country radio these past two years or so, "Somethin' Bad" appears to have found its audience. That said, there are a couple of stations on the Mediabase panel that have not added this song by now and probably won't. One of those stations is playing Miranda's "Another Sunday in the South" -- WXBQ in Johnson City, Tennessee (which also never added Carrie's "Two Black Cadillacs" and played her "Who Are You" instead; I guess it doesn't like edgier rock fare from women?). I also noticed that "Automatic" showed up in last week's Billboard Mid-Week Country Update as one of the week's top-10 greatest spin gainers through Thursday. That made me wonder if either some stations were bumping "Automatic" up because "Somethin' Bad" wasn't working for them or if they were being asked to do so in order to hold "Somethin' Bad" up while Chase Rice chases a top-10 peak. But Mediabase is showing only a +65 week-to-week bullet for "Automatic," so perhaps neither scenario applies. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the degree to which "Somethin' Bad" works for radio stations across the country varies a bit more than usual for a big hit from two superstar artists. That could get in the way of a #1 airplay run in the end, but other metrics already mentioned suggest that the song is connecting where it was targeted.
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Post by ethanhunt on Aug 25, 2014 22:28:20 GMT -5
A song title has never more perfectly described a song. This is not good. They waste there talent on such a boring piece of music. Also this song feels way to comfortable for both of them, like something I've heard them sing about way to many timesbefore
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Post by countrym12 on Sept 15, 2014 11:53:32 GMT -5
I was scrolling through the Hot Picks on All Access and saw that Another Sunday In The South was a pick for WXBQ. Do you guys think this indicates the possibility of it as a single after Somethin' Bad?
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Post by George Strait Junkie on Sept 15, 2014 12:18:30 GMT -5
I was scrolling through the Hot Picks on All Access and saw that Another Sunday In The South was a pick for WXBQ. Do you guys think this indicates the possibility of it as a single after Somethin' Bad? i hope it is one of my top favorite tracks off that CD but it will be more likly the horrible "Little Red Wagon" or the over produced horrible sounding but great lyrics "Two Rings Shy"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 13:36:33 GMT -5
I was scrolling through the Hot Picks on All Access and saw that Another Sunday In The South was a pick for WXBQ. Do you guys think this indicates the possibility of it as a single after Somethin' Bad? WXBQ is only playing "Another Sunday in the South" because for some reason they refused to add "Somethin' Bad." They apparently still want to play a new Miranda Lambert song while her current single is on the charts, so they just chose a preferred album track to spin during "Somethin' Bad"'s chart run. Therefore, this isn't an indication of what Miranda's new single will be.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 15, 2014 14:19:55 GMT -5
I was scrolling through the Hot Picks on All Access and saw that Another Sunday In The South was a pick for WXBQ. Do you guys think this indicates the possibility of it as a single after Somethin' Bad? WXBQ is only playing "Another Sunday in the South" because for some reason they refused to add "Somethin' Bad." They apparently still want to play a new Miranda Lambert song while her current single is on the charts, so they just chose a preferred album track to spin during "Somethin' Bad"'s chart run. Therefore, this isn't an indication of what Miranda's new single will be. I hope that doesn't hurt Somethin' Bad's chances at #1. I would love to see Miranda Lambert get her fifth #1 here and Carrie Underwood her 14th chart topper.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 17:42:33 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood Thank you for getting #SomethinBad to 15 MILLION VIEWS! Watch it again here: smarturl.it/sbadvideo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 20:56:00 GMT -5
Buffalocountry, one station shouldn't be the reason "Somethin' Bad" doesn't go to #1 on the charts, as songs have reached the summit without every station on the panel before ("Helluva Life," "Two Black Cadillacs," and "Boys 'Round Here" if I'm not mistaken), but with how slow the chart run has been so far I don't know if there will be enough "gas left in the tank" for this to get all the way to #1, and the best I can imagine is a Mediabase-only #1 with a peak of #2 or #3 on Billboard. Miranda may sweep the award shows, but for some reason country radio always gives her singles a hard time (that is, a relatively hard time for her strong sales and research numbers). Miranda hasn't had a Billboard #1 since "Over You."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 0:59:13 GMT -5
Miranda hasn't had a Billboard #1 since "Over You." That was her last solo #1 on Billboard, but she did score a #1 as Keith Urban's duet partner on "We Were Us" last November (12/7/13 chart). Anyway, as for "Somethin' Bad", I don't see why it can't hit #1 yet. It's been a little slower of a ride than I expected, but again, there have just been way too many huge-name releases out all at the same time, and all occupying the same part of the chart. And "Somethin' Bad" is one of the few that wasn't leading off an album. With Kenny and Lady A now on the way down (and possibly Dustin soon as well), I think a lot of those spins will start to shift over to "Somethin' Bad", now that it's in the top 10. Brantley, Sam, Frankie, and Blake will probably start seeing more gains as well, but I think most programmers will bump up "Somethin' Bad" first since it's ahead of those other ones in the pecking order. Country radio generally makes room for 1-2 female-led songs in the top 10 at any given time (which is very sad...it should be more, but alas), so with "Bartender" falling now, "Somethin' Bad" has a good chance to benefit. The next female-led songs are "Day Drinking" and "Girl In A Country Song". The format has a serious issue with allowing female voices up the chart, but "Somethin' Bad" is one of the select few right now and I think it will start seeing bigger increases in the next week or two.
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Post by Rumors on Sept 16, 2014 15:45:39 GMT -5
Just popping in to see how this song is doing and to add that my HotAC station definitely has this song is pretty high rotation. It is just such a shame that this song is flat for me....such a generic song. I hate they wasted their collaboration on something so forgettable. However, the video is great. I'm sure it has really helped this song out with the teens/20 something crowd.
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Post by someguy on Sept 16, 2014 21:10:59 GMT -5
I was scrolling through the Hot Picks on All Access and saw that Another Sunday In The South was a pick for WXBQ. Do you guys think this indicates the possibility of it as a single after Somethin' Bad? i hope it is one of my top favorite tracks off that CD but it will be more likly the horrible "Little Red Wagon" or the over produced horrible sounding but great lyrics "Two Rings Shy" I thought that "Priscilla" was the likely third single. I'd be fine with any of the mentioned songs though. I'm hoping that "Somethin' Bad" can start picking up in the next week or two, and am pretty confident that it will.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 16, 2014 21:39:34 GMT -5
Let's take a closer look, since everyone is concerned about this song's fate: This song currently sits at #9, with Dustin at #1 this week. I see the next two weeks at #1 being occupied by Luke and Cole, either they'll each get a week on both charts, or Luke could get 2 on BB and 1 on MB and Cole just gets 1 week on MB, or Cole misses out completely. After that, Fla Ga Line is up next for probably 2-3 weeks. Jason will then get most likely 2 weeks (Although he could end with just 1 week) at the top. By this time, Chase Rice's song will be around 50 weeks old. If it can last that long, it will probably be next in line for no more than a week at #1 (but honestly he could settle for a 2 or 3 peak). That would leave "Somethin' Bad" next for #1, either as early as in 6 weeks, and as late as in 9 weeks. The only songs that could potentially pass would be Blake or Sam Hunt if they continue to blaze the charts. I don't see "Small Town Throwdown" leaping "Somethin' Bad", it just hasn't been a huge song and has been moving up the charts at basically the same pace, but with less sales and popularity. "Somethin' Bad" is 17 weeks old, but it didn't even go for adds until week 3 or something like that, so it will be able to wait out #1 if they really want. And again, I even tried to over calculate in some instances (could be a good chance "Dirt" only gets 2 weeks, Jason only gets 1, and Chase peaks earlier). I like the chances of this becoming a #1.
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Post by rjz on Sept 17, 2014 6:29:42 GMT -5
Just popping in to see how this song is doing and to add that my HotAC station definitely has this song is pretty high rotation. It is just such a shame that this song is flat for me....such a generic song. I hate they wasted their collaboration on something so forgettable. However, the video is great. I'm sure it has really helped this song out with the teens/20 something crowd. Agreed. I think the song is just grating and not melodic at all. Neither of their vocals are appealing to my ears-somehow in an attempt to sound bad ass, two fantastic female vocalists wind up sounding screechy. My thoughts have been exactly the same as yours from the beginning-what a waste of two great country voices; it could have been so much more. But although it is a station changer for me, I would be shocked if their combined star power didn't hit the top, I think that is inevitable. And obviously the song is selling, so my dislike is a minority view.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 7:11:42 GMT -5
Just popping in to see how this song is doing and to add that my HotAC station definitely has this song is pretty high rotation. It is just such a shame that this song is flat for me....such a generic song. I hate they wasted their collaboration on something so forgettable. However, the video is great. I'm sure it has really helped this song out with the teens/20 something crowd. Agreed. I think the song is just grating and not melodic at all. Neither of their vocals are appealing to my ears-somehow in an attempt to sound bad ass, two fantastic female vocalists wind up sounding screechy. My thoughts have been exactly the same as yours from the beginning-what a waste of two great country voices; it could have been so much more. But although it is a station changer for me, I would be shocked if their combined star power didn't hit the top, I think that is inevitable. And obviously the song is selling, so my dislike is a minority view. I think here is where we are seeing a problem right now. You are right, but maybe not in the way that we think. iTunes really skews the data. Look at songs that have skyrocketed up to number 1: Somethin' Bad, Dirt, Burnin' it Down. All are a bit more poppy (with the exception of Dirt, which just has FGL's reputation to thank). The issue is that songs like this have a lot of crossover appeal and maybe some people who are not necessarily fans of country music still buy these songs. As a really bare-bottom hypothetical, let's say there are 100 country fans who use iTunes. Maybe 100 people have purchased Drunk on a Plane, because hey it's pretty catchy and Dierks is the man! Let's say 92 of those 100 were the aforementioned country fans. Seems like pretty good statistic right? 100 country fans and 100 purchases. Surely that will be a number 1 on the Hot Country chart. Well, not quite. Because Burnin' it Down has been purchased 600 times. Those other 500+ purchases could be people that like pop/hip hop (whatever genre you want to say that song is straying toward). Should Burnin' it Down be number 1 on the country chart because it is by a country artist, even though perhaps it is not as popular with country fans as Drunk on a Plane? I don't know. I see the same with Somethin' Bad. A lot of hate here, but a lot of popularity elsewhere.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 17, 2014 8:19:48 GMT -5
Agreed. I think the song is just grating and not melodic at all. Neither of their vocals are appealing to my ears-somehow in an attempt to sound bad ass, two fantastic female vocalists wind up sounding screechy. My thoughts have been exactly the same as yours from the beginning-what a waste of two great country voices; it could have been so much more. But although it is a station changer for me, I would be shocked if their combined star power didn't hit the top, I think that is inevitable. And obviously the song is selling, so my dislike is a minority view. I think here is where we are seeing a problem right now. You are right, but maybe not in the way that we think. iTunes really skews the data. Look at songs that have skyrocketed up to number 1: Somethin' Bad, Dirt, Burnin' it Down. All are a bit more poppy (with the exception of Dirt, which just has FGL's reputation to thank). The issue is that songs like this have a lot of crossover appeal and maybe some people who are not necessarily fans of country music still buy these songs. As a really bare-bottom hypothetical, let's say there are 100 country fans who use iTunes. Maybe 100 people have purchased Drunk on a Plane, because hey it's pretty catchy and Dierks is the man! Let's say 92 of those 100 were the aforementioned country fans. Seems like pretty good statistic right? 100 country fans and 100 purchases. Surely that will be a number 1 on the Hot Country chart. Well, not quite. Because Burnin' it Down has been purchased 600 times. Those other 500+ purchases could be people that like pop/hip hop (whatever genre you want to say that song is straying toward). Should Burnin' it Down be number 1 on the country chart because it is by a country artist, even though perhaps it is not as popular with country fans as Drunk on a Plane? I don't know. I see the same with Somethin' Bad. A lot of hate here, but a lot of popularity elsewhere. Normally I'm not a fan of Pop Music. But according to the above criteria, If I like a Rihanna song from time to time and choose to download it, should I not count towards her totals? It shouldn't matter that people who aren't country fans first and foremost are buying this song. To me, It just means the song has that much crossover appeal. "Black And Yellow" was a rap song first and foremost, but blew up and became a big Pop hit, but that doesn't mean it's not an outstanding rap song.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 8:49:19 GMT -5
I think here is where we are seeing a problem right now. You are right, but maybe not in the way that we think. iTunes really skews the data. Look at songs that have skyrocketed up to number 1: Somethin' Bad, Dirt, Burnin' it Down. All are a bit more poppy (with the exception of Dirt, which just has FGL's reputation to thank). The issue is that songs like this have a lot of crossover appeal and maybe some people who are not necessarily fans of country music still buy these songs. As a really bare-bottom hypothetical, let's say there are 100 country fans who use iTunes. Maybe 100 people have purchased Drunk on a Plane, because hey it's pretty catchy and Dierks is the man! Let's say 92 of those 100 were the aforementioned country fans. Seems like pretty good statistic right? 100 country fans and 100 purchases. Surely that will be a number 1 on the Hot Country chart. Well, not quite. Because Burnin' it Down has been purchased 600 times. Those other 500+ purchases could be people that like pop/hip hop (whatever genre you want to say that song is straying toward). Should Burnin' it Down be number 1 on the country chart because it is by a country artist, even though perhaps it is not as popular with country fans as Drunk on a Plane? I don't know. I see the same with Somethin' Bad. A lot of hate here, but a lot of popularity elsewhere. Normally I'm not a fan of Pop Music. But according to the above criteria, If I like a Rihanna song from time to time and choose to download it, should I not count towards her totals? It shouldn't matter that people who aren't country fans first and foremost are buying this song. To me, It just means the song has that much crossover appeal. "Black And Yellow" was a rap song first and foremost, but blew up and became a big Pop hit, but that doesn't mean it's not an outstanding rap song. I am not saying necessarily that those crossover sales should not be included. Obviously if someone somewhere is buying the song, then a sale is a sale. I'm just thinking that that's the reasoning a song like Somethin' Bad can shoot to #1 on the Hot chart and still draw so many negative comments from passionate country fans like those here.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Sept 17, 2014 9:22:25 GMT -5
What kind of ridiculousness lol
So we're really going to debate the worth of certain consumers purchases based on their musical preferences? A sale is a sale and its not skewing anything. Somethin' Bad is a country song and no matter who is buying it, it doesn't change that it is still the whatever position most popular country song in a given week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 12:17:09 GMT -5
What kind of ridiculousness lol So we're really going to debate the worth of certain consumers purchases based on their musical preferences? A sale is a sale and its not skewing anything. Somethin' Bad is a country song and no matter who is buying it, it doesn't change that it is still the whatever position most popular country song in a given week. No doubt, but my point was trying to determine a reasoning for the chart and popularity discrepencies as opposed to blindly accepting numbers as fact; the latter option perhaps saving us both the time and effort.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:29:18 GMT -5
"Somethin' Bad" has only gained 200k audience all week on Mediabase; I'm thinking it's just about finished its chart run. "Leave the Night On" is already ahead in audience on Mediabase, which will knock this record back to #11 on tomorrow's Billboard chart, and if "Neon Light" has one more great gain tomorrow (accompanied by another loss for "Somethin' Bad"), then Blake Shelton's single could make the pass, too, knocking "Bad" down to #12. I'd be very surprised to see this recover from a 9-11 or 9-12 fall, and even if it does hold its place in the top 10 on Billboard, it seems that radio has just about played the record all they want to.
"Somethin' Bad"'s increase of 356 spins in the past week on Mediabase does seem a bit odd, but this isn't very different from the week "Chainsaw" moved up to #8 on Mediabase and maintained a pretty steady spins bullet (between 100 and 200 if memory serves) while losing over half a million AIs on Mediabase a day. I guess this spins-audience discrepancy occurs when a record label has done just about all they can do for a single besides get the radio stations to spin the record many times overnight, which won't count for much audience.
There is still some chance that radio stations will finally convert "Bad" into heavy rotation this week since three big #1 hits will be falling ("Where It's At" presumably, "American Kids," and "Bartender") and all the free airplay will breathe new life into this single, but I personally don't expect that to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:36:12 GMT -5
"Somethin' Bad" has only gained 200k audience all week on Mediabase; I'm thinking it's just about finished its chart run. I think that's a pretty bold prediction. I'll applaud you if you're right, but quite frankly, I would be absolutely stunned if this one was done already. I'll be the first to admit that it's been moving very slowly and has continued to do so all week, but I just can't see Sony Music Nashville letting this one go, nor do I think radio is done with it yet either. I realize there's been mixed reaction to this song here and elsewhere, but it's really not showing up in any published callout reports, and this has continued to sell fairly well (although the sales were definitely front-loaded). Anyway, I think it would be rather alarming if this stalled out where it's currently at on the charts. It's easily out-selling "Small Town Throwdown", and continues to rank ahead of "Where It's At", "Ready Set Roll", and "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" on iTunes as well. Not to mention that this is a duet between the format's two biggest female stars (and really the only ones they play consistently). If this were to stall out while a bunch of newbie 'bros' can breeze their way to #1...yikes.
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mylifeback
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 21, 2014 21:52:56 GMT -5
"Somethin' Bad" has only gained 200k audience all week on Mediabase; I'm thinking it's just about finished its chart run. From your fingers to God's ears, but I doubt that will happen unless Carrie's new single ends up depressing spins for this song. Carrie's team was probably targeting the end of September for her new single all along, and they have to be surprised this is still on the charts at only around #10. I wonder if Miranda's label will try to force this to the top or if they'll also announce a new single if they think the new Carrie song will negatively affect this one. I know this song is by the format's two top females, but that doesn't mean it's entitled to go to the top. I'd just as soon this stalls out & goes away asap.
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Post by Marv on Sept 21, 2014 22:05:45 GMT -5
With 2014 on track to be the first year since 2009 in which no single by a solo female vocalist will make the year-end top 20, I'm as infuriated as anybody else that a song such as 'Automatic' will be lucky to make the year-end top 20 @ Mediabase, primarily because of the ridiculous amount of 'bro-country' stuff polluting the airwaves these days.
The chieftains at country radio can beat their chests all they want about the fact that this inundation of the BC stuff has enabled country radio to pummel and overtake top 40 radio in the all-important 18-34 demo over the course of this year, but at the expense of pointlessly and unnecessarily alienating and/or blowing off millions of baby-boomer listeners including yours truly by sending icons such as Lee Ann Womack, George Strait and Alan Jackson into the hinterlands for no remotely intelligent reason whatsoever?
After the unprecedented launch of 'WANEGBT' at country radio which became DOA within 3 weeks after release, it made sense for Scott Borchetta to redirect Taylor Swift's career to top 40 radio.
It has always been a superhuman chore for PDs and MDs to 'thread the needle' of the wants/needs/expectations of their listeners by playing enough of her music as well as other young newcomers alongside the format veterans and icons without alienating the format's most important demo (women 35-44), as well as the adults 25-54 and women 25-54 demos, which are also vital.
She's the format's most polarizing artist of the past 15-20 years without a doubt in spite of what some folks thought about Shania & Garth, two folks who certainly helped propel the format to monster ratings and equally stupendous CD sales which had been horrendously underreported until the introduction of Soundscan in 1991, far and away the best thing to happen to the country music industry during the past 25 years.
The arrivals of Miranda and Carrie at country radio in 2005 certainly launched a new 'boom' at the format; 'Gunpowder And Lead' is as definitely out there as any career-launching and/or introduction-to-the-format country tune in recent memory, and the beyond-enormous chart performances for both 'Jesus, Take The Wheel' in 2006 and 'The House That Built Me' in 2010 certainly signaled a new era for females at the format alongside Lee Ann Womack, Jo Dee Messina, Sara Evans, Martina, Terri Clark, Reba and all the rest.
And now some 4 1/2+ years later after 'JTTW' hit #1 at country radio, Carrie & Miranda are IT as it relates to females at country radio? That's just downright absurd IMHO.
I certainly have no idea why two long-time country powerhouses such as 'The Rabbit' (WXBQ) and KNCI/Sacramento aren't playing 'Something Bad', and I'm certainly not surprised that this great tune isn't streaking to #1 in 11-13 weeks as 'Jesus, Take The Wheel' and 'The House That Built Me' did.
A slew of decidedly inferior bro-country stuff has soared rather easily past this song, which will rise to #9 tomorrow at Mediabase as it passes 'Bartender', another song which is FAR superior to most of the songs currently in the top 10 or top 20 right now IMHO.
I also wholeheartedly agree with the spot-on assertion of the always-trusty jhomes87 that Columbia isn't about to pull the plug or give up on this; it never crossed my mind that it would reach the top 10 and then run out of steam along standout songs such as 'Lucky Man' or Tim McGraw's wonderful 'Some Things Never Change' just to name a couple, and although there are still some 2,500+ spins separating it from the typical number of spins needed to reach the penthouse, I'm very convinced that this tune isn't done, even in a top ten full of one-and-done future charttoppers, many of them downright mediocre.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 21, 2014 22:07:14 GMT -5
This song is already 17 weeks old. Are they really going to drag it out 26 weeks to get #1? I bet Blake's song passes by this really soon, so there's gonna be a long wait in line for #1 (possibly mid-to-late November).
Carrie/Miranda can easily claim this as #1 since it did legitimately top the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart, so the label can do a #1 party if they want.
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mylifeback
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 21, 2014 22:20:12 GMT -5
I'll have to disagree that this song is superior than most of the songs in the top 10, or even good. I think it's awful, and the vocals are horrendously bad.
Even so, I'm not going to be surprised if the label muscles this to the top, since practically every song by a big name gets a trophy, err I mean a #1.
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