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Post by ethanhunt on Aug 26, 2014 15:10:39 GMT -5
This is one of the worst singles released in recent memory. This has to be one of the most uninteresting Melodies in ever recorded.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 26, 2014 15:32:48 GMT -5
^ I think the melody is actually pretty well structured. Certainly more tuneful than almost anything written by Casey Beathard, or "Over" by Blake Shelton. THOSE are uninteresting melodies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
^ I think the melody is actually pretty well structured. Certainly more tuneful than almost anything written by Casey Beathard, or "Over" by Blake Shelton. THOSE are uninteresting melodies. Agreed. As annoying and aggressive as this may be to some. I'd hardly call it boring, as far as structure or melody is concerned. I can think of plenty right off the bat that do fit that boring description, though.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 26, 2014 15:51:14 GMT -5
^ I think the melody is actually pretty well structured. Certainly more tuneful than almost anything written by Casey Beathard, or "Over" by Blake Shelton. THOSE are uninteresting melodies. True, but if he has a songwriter who's great at melodies (think Shawn Camp) then he's fine because Casey's pretty good at lyrics.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 26, 2014 16:30:02 GMT -5
I think Rascal Flatts just isn't "hip" anymore. I don't think the younger crowd that Country covets the most nowadays really is that interested in them, and the older, maybe more mature crowd that still loves Flatts isn't going to get behind a song like this, which is kind of a "bro-lite" song. Again, I just feel like a song like this would be in better hands with someone more youthful, like Cole Swindell or Brantley Gilbert.
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Post by someguy on Aug 26, 2014 21:56:04 GMT -5
I think Rascal Flatts just isn't "hip" anymore. I don't think the younger crowd that Country covets the most nowadays really is that interested in them, and the older, maybe more mature crowd that still loves Flatts isn't going to get behind a song like this, which is kind of a "bro-lite" song. Again, I just feel like a song like this would be in better hands with someone more youthful, like Cole Swindell or Brantley Gilbert. I agree. This sounds to me like Rascal Flatts trying to jump on a trend, but not really being comfortable with it. The sooner this goes away the better, imo.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 26, 2014 22:36:02 GMT -5
This is like the definition of guilty pleasure for me, because I absolutely love this, lol. There's just a lot about this song that I really like and I'm enjoying hearing this on the radio a lot. Definitely one of my favorites from Rewind and the perfect single choice imo. I hope that the pace picks up for this one a bit because I don't want to see it underperform.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:33:14 GMT -5
I think Rascal Flatts just isn't "hip" anymore. I don't think the younger crowd that Country covets the most nowadays really is that interested in them, and the older, maybe more mature crowd that still loves Flatts isn't going to get behind a song like this, which is kind of a "bro-lite" song. Again, I just feel like a song like this would be in better hands with someone more youthful, like Cole Swindell or Brantley Gilbert. I think Rascal Flatts have done a lot to bring the younger crowd to Country, but the new generation of younger fans is more into Brantley, FGL and Luke, which isn't RF's natural style. I've hear this a few times, and it actually sounds pretty good on the radio. I'm hoping this does well, but I'm not sure how well this album will do if the second single isn't keeping them out there with any kind of momentum. It seems like it's been really tough for all the groups in Country lately, though, which is too bad.
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Post by gurustu on Aug 27, 2014 15:58:38 GMT -5
Not really a fan of this song and the RF version of it. I listened to the demo and I actually liked that one better. Sounds more like a song that would have done well for The Cadillac Three instead of RF. I agree with most other people that "Memphis" and/or "Aftermath" need to be the third single in order to get the Flatts back to putting out powerful songs the way they have done so many other times in the past.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 27, 2014 1:13:57 GMT -5
I think this song is next in the "should we stay or should we go" category. Hasn't really done too much on the charts (although has had a few decent updates recently), and has really been struggling in sales. It's been out for a while now (And the album isn't even that old), and is actually behind Parmalee and Big & Rich on iTunes (too bands with nowhere near the popularity RF has endured over the years). We saw how "Cold One" decided to pull the plug recently, and the same with Eli Young Band, so I'm beginning to wonder if RF might pull the plug too, and try to push something different. I know it's only 16 weeks old, but even with a few songs set to go recurrent ahead of it, it will be lost when Perfect Storm, Homegrown Honey, and Shotgun Rider pass it soon. Quite frankly this song has shown no signs of becoming a big hit song or even a memorable one, so maybe it's time for single #3.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 29, 2014 15:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 29, 2014 21:59:30 GMT -5
Hi Rascal Flatts. Remember when you sang songs like "Mayberry", "Bless The Broken Road", "These Days", "Prayin' For Daylight", and "What Hurts The Most"? Can you go back to singing songs like that instead of this crap? Thanks. Sincerely, everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 20:14:01 GMT -5
Hi Rascal Flatts. Remember when you sang songs like "Mayberry", "Bless The Broken Road", "These Days", "Prayin' For Daylight", and "What Hurts The Most"? Can you go back to singing songs like that instead of this crap? Thanks. Sincerely, everyone. 90% of the males in Country aren't releasing anything nearly that great these days RF has such a long history of terrible single choices; I MIGHT forgive them for this if they release "Aftermath" or "I Have Never Been To Memphis" next. Maybe...
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Post by Kentucky25 on Oct 6, 2014 12:58:39 GMT -5
Hi Rascal Flatts. Remember when you sang songs like "Mayberry", "Bless The Broken Road", "These Days", "Prayin' For Daylight", and "What Hurts The Most"? Can you go back to singing songs like that instead of this crap? Thanks. Sincerely, everyone. 90% of the males in Country aren't releasing anything nearly that great these days RF has such a long history of terrible single choices; I MIGHT forgive them for this if they release "Aftermath" or "I Have Never Been To Memphis" next. Maybe... Memphis, I Like The Sound of That, and Riot are the only songs on this album I even like (and of course Rewind). It'd take probably two of those 3 being released for me to consider this album a positive. Overall it was a major letdown for me. This song just annoys me to no end lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 13:09:49 GMT -5
Personally i'd love to see "Night Of Our Lives" get released but it probably won't
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 14:01:51 GMT -5
I see speculation of a third Rascal Flatts single from this Rewind era and some will probably tell me this is too early to call, but from the way "Payback" is struggling in the 20's I'm not expecting a third single release at all. "Payback" should eventually make the top 15 and possibly top 10 (although top 5 would surprise me), but by that point I don't think Rascal Flatts will have much momentum left and it may be February or March of 2015. Perhaps with an older act like Rascal Flatts it's best to keep releasing new music to preserve momentum, so Big Machine will probably go with a single from a new era around mid-2015.
Of course, this is looking way ahead and there are several variables that could change things. Maybe "I Have Never Been to Memphis" (which I'm pretty sure is the song Big Machine was planning to release third) will get some sort of positive early feedback or some other song's popularity will come to Big Machine's attention, so I won't place any bets on my prediction of no third Rewind single, but with the way things are looking right now I don't think Rascal Flatts will have enough momentum left by the time "Payback" is finished to get a third single up the charts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 14:08:58 GMT -5
I see speculation of a third Rascal Flatts single from this Rewind era and some will probably tell me this is too early to call, but from the way "Payback" is struggling in the 20's I'm not expecting a third single release at all. "Payback" should eventually make the top 15 and possibly top 10 (although top 5 would surprise me), but by that point I don't think Rascal Flatts will have much momentum left and it may be February or March of 2015. Perhaps with an older act like Rascal Flatts it's best to keep releasing new music to preserve momentum, so Big Machine will probably go with a single from a new era around mid-2015. Of course, this is looking way ahead and there are several variables that could change things. Maybe "I Have Never Been to Memphis" (which I'm pretty sure is the song Big Machine was planning to release third) will get some sort of positive early feedback or some other song's popularity will come to Big Machine's attention, so I won't place any bets on my prediction of no third Rewind single, but with the way things are looking right now I don't think Rascal Flatts will have enough momentum left by the time "Payback" is finished to get a third single up the charts. I hope that doesn't happen, because there are still decent choices on this album. I think Aftermath, Riot, or Memphis could give them a boost, and I hope they don't give up on this record so soon. Their radio days have been dwindling for awhile now, so I'm not sure if it's so smart to bank on radio, rather than making good single choices. They sholuld know by now the terrible choices could damage an era for them.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 6, 2014 17:34:02 GMT -5
The band WILL release a third single from "Rewind." It'd be foolish not to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 20:28:38 GMT -5
The band WILL release a third single from "Rewind." It'd be foolish not to. I never doubted that they would release a 3rd single from the album, but I think we have some confirmation now that there will be a follow-up to "Payback". Nashville Country Club sent me an email today for a survey as to what RF's next single should be. Here's a link for anyone who wants to complete the survey. The 4 songs being considered (at least according to this survey) are "DJ Tonight", "I Like The Sound Of That", "Riot", and "I'm On Fire".
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 7, 2014 20:44:20 GMT -5
^ R.I.P. I Have Never Been To Memphis :( Out of those 4 songs, I voted for Riot. I'm sure they'll pick DJ Tonight though
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 7, 2014 21:16:12 GMT -5
In all honesty though, if this is struggling to break into the Top 20, I can't see "I Have Never Been to Memphis" being a wise choice for radio. It's the best song on Rewind and I'd love to see it get released, but realistically, it's probably not a good single option, especially with Rascal Flatts' momentum down a bit these past few years.
Of the four they're testing, "Riot" gets my vote, easily. That (along with "Memphis") are two of my faves on the record. I'd really like to see that be the third single, and if that does well enough, maybe then they could throw out IHNBTM fourth for fun. OTOH, "DJ Tonight" is one of my least-favorites on the record and I'd rather see just about anything else be released. I really hate the hook on that song so much.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 7, 2014 21:45:52 GMT -5
In all honesty though, if this is struggling to break into the Top 20, I can't see "I Have Never Been to Memphis" being a wise choice for radio. It's the best song on Rewind and I'd love to see it get released, but realistically, it's probably not a good single option, especially with Rascal Flatts' momentum down a bit these past few years. You're definitely right about this part. Memphis could have been a hit say 10 years ago, but in today's day and age it would go nowhere. DJ Tonight kind of fits in the narrow category country music allows for these days, so I'm sure that's what we'll end up hearing. I would love for Rascal Flatts to just say eff you to radio and release Memphis though, just for my own pleasing.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 7, 2014 22:32:02 GMT -5
In all honesty though, if this is struggling to break into the Top 20, I can't see "I Have Never Been to Memphis" being a wise choice for radio. It's the best song on Rewind and I'd love to see it get released, but realistically, it's probably not a good single option, especially with Rascal Flatts' momentum down a bit these past few years. Of the four they're testing, "Riot" gets my vote, easily. That (along with "Memphis") are two of my faves on the record. I'd really like to see that be the third single, and if that does well enough, maybe then they could throw out IHNBTM fourth for fun. OTOH, "DJ Tonight" is one of my least-favorites on the record and I'd rather see just about anything else be released. I really hate the hook on that song so much. I hate to agree with you're first part, but I unfortunately do. "I Have Never Been To Memphis" would not be a good follow up after a disappointing run for "Payback". Originally I was saying how that "Memphis" should be next for the fall/winter, but "Payback" not doing as well as first thought by Big Machine all but crushes that hope and that "DJ Tonight" and "Riot" would be next in line. I personally thought "DJ Tonight" should have been the uptempo release after "Rewind" and not "Payback", and I'm not just saying that because "Payback" has struggled. I never liked this song and even though I'm certainly not in love with "DJ Tonight", it would have been a much better option IMO. All in all, I'm sad to see "I Have Never Been To Memphis" not getting a radio release since it's by far my favorite from Rewind.
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Post by tim on Oct 7, 2014 23:18:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty much bored with Rascal Flatts, but out of the four choices I think "Riot" is the strongest song (and one I really like). I'm not at all surprised "Payback" is struggling as I've never liked the song myself; I also agree with sabre14 that although I don't really like "DJ Tonight" (it just sounds like everything else on radio) it likely would've been a better second single.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Oct 9, 2014 16:17:54 GMT -5
I'm surprised Payback has struggled like it has, it always seemed like the clear second single to me. Of the four songs in the survey, I'm on Fire aside, I'd love any of the other 3 to be the next single. DJ Tonight would be my choice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 17:19:52 GMT -5
If it has to be those 4, then i guess i'd pick Riot. I'd love to see Night Of Our Lives get released but i'm sure it will never be. I'm actually surprised to see this struggling considering it sounded pretty radio friendly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 11:31:23 GMT -5
I was expecting Big Machine to stick with "Payback" for a top 15 or top 10 run, which is why I was predicting that by the time "Payback" peaked it would be spring 2015 and Big Machine would just move on to a new album era. It's surprising to see a Rascal Flatts single whiff so low on the chart. If "Payback" is just about done then I do agree that there will probably be a third single and of course the survey jhomes87 posted confirms this. Perhaps "Payback" just wasn't the right choice to release to radio. I suspect the last portion of this song ("the P-P-Payback" bit) may have come across as grating or obnoxious to a lot of radio programmers. Also, sales numbers for this Rascal Flatts single on iTunes haven't been anything to write home about, so all around I guess radio just didn't feel very compelled to spin the record.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 10, 2014 11:44:53 GMT -5
This song's in a weak part of the chart, with Brooks and Bryant and Nail and Hayes not doing much. If a few songs go recurrent in the next 3 weeks, and the label can keep Payback from freefalling, it could stagger into the top 20 and maybe even get a shot at the top 15. Top 20, anyway. That looks better than a chart peak below #20, so I can see some reason for keeping it going via life support for another month or so.
On the other hand, if they're determined to get another song on the charts before the holidays, they'll have to surrender on Payback.
Two unappetizing choices....
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Post by blueguitar on Oct 10, 2014 11:52:25 GMT -5
This song's in a weak part of the chart, with Brooks and Bryant and Nail and Hayes not doing much. If a few songs go recurrent in the next 3 weeks, and the label can keep Payback from freefalling, it could stagger into the top 20 and maybe even get a shot at the top 15. Top 20, anyway. That looks better than a chart peak below #20, so I can see some reason for keeping it going via life support for another month or so. On the other hand, if they're determined to get another song on the charts before the holidays, they'll have to surrender on Payback. Two unappetizing choices.... These songs just loitering around on this chart going no where is getting really annoying for sure! I'd like to add Swon Brothers, Big and Rich and Parmalee to your list. Even Chase Rice is taking up space. I just don't see how he can hang on much longer while FGL, Jason and Blake all top the chart. Hopefully these songs can all get flushed out in the next month to make room for others!
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 10, 2014 12:35:13 GMT -5
This song's in a weak part of the chart, with Brooks and Bryant and Nail and Hayes not doing much. If a few songs go recurrent in the next 3 weeks, and the label can keep Payback from freefalling, it could stagger into the top 20 and maybe even get a shot at the top 15. Top 20, anyway. That looks better than a chart peak below #20, so I can see some reason for keeping it going via life support for another month or so. On the other hand, if they're determined to get another song on the charts before the holidays, they'll have to surrender on Payback. Two unappetizing choices.... Out of the two unappetizing choices, I actually agree with Big Machine on the choice they've seemed to make with putting another single out and stop promoting "Payback". This song, from really the time it was released, never looked or acted like a top 10 single even though the artist name next to the song title was Rascal Flatts. I do believe Big Machine has toyed with the decision to continue to put resources into this single and fight for as high a peak as possible or cut their losses, and they decided on the latter. It does make sense to get another single out before the holidays hit though, since I would think that anything after the new year would result in a new album era all together. I've said before that "Payback" was a bad single choice. I've always found the "P-P-P-Payback" to be irritating like @daydrinker eluded too and I believe that PD's never warned up to the style of this one. I personally would have gone with "DJ Tonight" second for the summer and "I Have Never Been To Memphis" to be third during the fall/winter. But "Payback" has completely ruined that and now "Memphis" will never see the light of day.
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