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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 8:53:44 GMT -5
the teaser for Maps isn't really a teaser. couldn't pick out even a bit of how it's going to sound, but still cool. I'd love it if Maps debuted at #1, and Fancy never returns. Wow, you like Maroon 5 that much? no, just not a fan of fancy, but Maroon 5 is cool. I like some of their stuff |
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 8:57:35 GMT -5
I can't believe Sing is over already. Ed's album isn't out for another 10 days. I don't get that Nico & Vinz song. Birthday is still holding on. Katy has 190M between 2 songs. Her label isn't crying that Birthday didn't blow up. love Am I Wrong. That, Ain't It Fun, Happy, and Summer are constantly played on my phone. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 14, 2014 9:09:25 GMT -5
^I love Ain't It Fun!
I was tired of Happy 3 months ago.
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 10:09:56 GMT -5
I'm probably a little behind than most people on this board. I am current, but not freakin' current like you youngens. lol. I just started getting into Problem. fun song. And Happy is just one of those rare songs in my life that I'll never get tired of, i've listened to it so many times, for some reason, it hits my soul in a great way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 10:15:31 GMT -5
I had Happy on repeat until about 3 weeks ago. Now I'm avoiding it. Even though I still play clips of it just for the hell of it but it's certainly not in my top 5 anymore (even though it was my #1 like 6 weeks ago. Fancy is my next big thing. I could see it still being one of my favorite songs two months from now. It's addicting and catchy and fun to sing along to IMO. I really do hope Happy will beat Dark Horse in the year-end chart though (and I don't see any other song, even Fancy or All of Me, being in the top two year-end just because H and DH blew up so much in the first few months of this year).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 14, 2014 10:15:59 GMT -5
^^Youngens? I'm older than you!
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 10:37:22 GMT -5
^^Youngens? I'm older than you! Haha. Then we can relate |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 10:40:03 GMT -5
There's a chance that All of Me will be number one on radio songs this week, which will make it the first time since 5 and a half years ago that two consecutive number ones on the chart were number one for 8 or more weeks...interesting
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Post by Clauss on Jun 14, 2014 11:20:07 GMT -5
There's a chance that All of Me will be number one on radio songs this week, which will make it the first time since 5 and a half years ago that two consecutive number ones on the chart were number one for 8 or more weeks...interesting Which were the others songs?  |
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 14, 2014 11:34:22 GMT -5
There's a chance that All of Me will be number one on radio songs this week, which will make it the first time since 5 and a half years ago that two consecutive number ones on the chart were number one for 8 or more weeks...interesting Which were the others songs?  2008: T.I.'s "Whatever You Like" and T.I.'s "Live Your Life" each at 8 weeks 2002: Nelly's "Dilemma" for 12 weeks followed by Eminem's "Lose Yourself" for 11 weeks 1998: Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" for 11 weeks followed by Goo Goo Dolls' "Iris" for 9 weeks* 1997/1998: Chumbawamba's "Tubthumping" for 9 weeks followed by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" for 10 weeks 1997: No Doubt's "Don't Speak" for 10 weeks** followed by Jewel's "You Were Meant for Me" for 9 weeks 1995: The Rembrandts's "I'll Be There for You" for 8 weeks followed by Seal's "Kiss from a Rose" for 10 weeks 1994/1995: Boyz II Men's "I'll Make Love to You" for 12 weeks followed by Boyz II Men's "On Bended Knee" for 11 weeks followed by Madonna's "Take a Bow" for 9 weeks I'm going to stop there because the farther you go back the more frequent they happen. *Then Aerosmith's "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing" spent a week at #1 and "Iris" took back over for an addition 9 weeks, bringing it to 18 weeks in total! **Spent an additional 6 weeks at number one in 1996 before Toni Braxton's "Un-Break My Heart" took it for two weeks. Though, it's worth noting that "Mirrors" spent 7 weeks at number one followed by "Blurred Lines" for 11 weeks. Had "Blurred Lines" had slowed down for one week at the beginning, it would have happened just last year as well. |
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Post by H. on Jun 14, 2014 11:35:22 GMT -5
When will Rather Be chart?
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Post by Kris on Jun 14, 2014 12:40:37 GMT -5
I wonder how long Iris will hold the record
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 12:44:01 GMT -5
Ugh at Iris. Could have been the longest running #1 song on the hot 100 minus that stupid chart policy, tho at the time it made sense.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2014 14:44:33 GMT -5
"Don't Speak" also had a lengthy run atop Hot 100 Airplay (16 weeks). Another thing to consider: would these 1990s song have enjoyed those lengthy runs if all formats were included on Hot 100 Airplay back then?
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Post by renfield75 on Jun 14, 2014 14:53:10 GMT -5
But even if the chart policy had been changed a year earlier Iris still likely wouldn't have gotten 18 weeks on top because it had zero sales points. The Boy Is Mine, I Don't Want To Miss A Thing, and First Night all had strong sales and would most likely have kept the Goo Goo Dolls from getting their full 18 week reign on the Hot 100. It's not the stupid chart policy, it's the stupid labels withholding physical singles at a time when that mattered. Sadly, we'll never know what it's Hot 100 chart run would have been.
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Post by Gary on Jun 14, 2014 15:10:58 GMT -5
Songs powerful enough to spend 18 weeks at #1 would have also been 18 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 had it been available as a single. Kill the single or severely limit it to make you buy the album for $16.99 was the order of the day. In some cases it worked, in others it didn't.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 14, 2014 15:18:14 GMT -5
Songs powerful enough to spend 18 weeks at #1 would have also been 18 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 had it been available as a single. Kill the single or severely limit it to make you buy the album for $16.99 was the order of the day. In some cases it worked, in others it didn't. How many weeks did Bryan Adams EIDIDIFY spent on top of airplay? I remember it was a monster, but ended up with 7 at #1 on H100. Can't always assume that sales and airplay would be in tandem or that an airplay hit will result in ongoing sales - especially during that era. Thanks to Columbia for deleting I'll Be There to boost Mariah's "Unplugged" pretty much started the whole deleting of singles or airplay only hits. It completely backfired as we know with the launch of peer-to-peer. I'll never forget seeing Blackstreet Boys, Britney and other hits during that time for $19.99 at record stores. After that I only bought used. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 14, 2014 15:24:16 GMT -5
Songs powerful enough to spend 18 weeks at #1 would have also been 18 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 had it been available as a single. Kill the single or severely limit it to make you buy the album for $16.99 was the order of the day. In some cases it worked, in others it didn't. How many weeks did Bryan Adams EIDIDIFY spent on top of airplay? I remember it was a monster, but ended up with 7 at #1 on H100. Can't always assume that sales and airplay would be in tandem or that an airplay hit will result in ongoing sales - especially during that era. Thanks to Columbia for deleting I'll Be There to boost Mariah's "Unplugged" pretty much started the whole deleting of singles or airplay only hits. It completely backfired as we know with the launch of peer-to-peer. I'll never forget seeing Blackstreet Boys, Britney and other hits during that time for $19.99 at record stores. After that I only bought used.
Everything I DO I Do It For You spent 8 weeks at #1 on the airplay chart
Lines up pretty well with the 7 weeks it got on the Hot 100
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Post by jebsib on Jun 14, 2014 15:25:29 GMT -5
Gary, what do you think of the new Hot 100 print layout?
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Post by Gary on Jun 14, 2014 15:35:07 GMT -5
Gary, what do you think of the new Hot 100 print layout? I will have to look at it next time it comes in the mail. Can't seem to find my current copy |
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Post by Clauss on Jun 14, 2014 15:52:04 GMT -5
2008: T.I.'s "Whatever You Like" and T.I.'s "Live Your Life" each at 8 weeks 2002: Nelly's "Dilemma" for 12 weeks followed by Eminem's "Lose Yourself" for 11 weeks 1998: Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" for 11 weeks followed by Goo Goo Dolls' "Iris" for 9 weeks* 1997/1998: Chumbawamba's "Tubthumping" for 9 weeks followed by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" for 10 weeks 1997: No Doubt's "Don't Speak" for 10 weeks** followed by Jewel's "You Were Meant for Me" for 9 weeks 1995: The Rembrandts's "I'll Be There for You" for 8 weeks followed by Seal's "Kiss from a Rose" for 10 weeks 1994/1995: Boyz II Men's "I'll Make Love to You" for 12 weeks followed by Boyz II Men's "On Bended Knee" for 11 weeks followed by Madonna's "Take a Bow" for 9 weeks I'm going to stop there because the farther you go back the more frequent they happen. *Then Aerosmith's "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing" spent a week at #1 and "Iris" took back over for an addition 9 weeks, bringing it to 18 weeks in total! **Spent an additional 6 weeks at number one in 1996 before Toni Braxton's "Un-Break My Heart" took it for two weeks. Though, it's worth noting that "Mirrors" spent 7 weeks at number one followed by "Blurred Lines" for 11 weeks. Had "Blurred Lines" had slowed down for one week at the beginning, it would have happened just last year as well. thank you for that huge answer  |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2014 16:03:04 GMT -5
"Everything I Do..." enjoyed a bigger run in sales- 17 weeks at No. 1 on the POS sales chart- but, keep in mind that neither Top 40 Radio Monitor or the POS chart were used for the Hot 100 until late November of that year. Oddly, from late May-late November, Billboard printed those charts, but not the ones that actually made up the Hot 100. It was fine to give readers a preview/comparison, but they should have also made room for the charts used for the Hot 100 during those months.
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Post by brady47 on Jun 14, 2014 16:06:02 GMT -5
And Torn by Natalie Imbruglia (Love that song)! But to be honest, I don't know if those songs would be able to outtake monster singles like "The Boy Is Mine".
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Post by jebsib on Jun 14, 2014 16:46:41 GMT -5
But recall that monster #1 airplay songs weren't guaranteed #1 on Hot 100 even with commercial single availability.
Take Donna Lewis' "I Love You Always Forever" for example:
#1 Hot 100 airplay for 13 (!) weeks, unable to get to #1 (Thanks, Macarena)
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 16:49:05 GMT -5
FYI, when Everything I Do... was released, the first time I heard it I said, there goes Bryan Adams career, horrible song. lol. That's how bad I am at predicting hits.
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Post by imbondz on Jun 14, 2014 16:50:35 GMT -5
But recall that monster #1 airplay songs weren't guaranteed #1 on Hot 100 even with commercial single availability. Take Donna Lewis' "I Love You Always Forever" for example: #1 Hot 100 airplay for 13 (!) weeks, unable to get to #1 (Thanks, Macarena) It's tough to use that as proof tho, no song was going to beat out Macarena during its run it was so huge. That example is an anomaly |
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Post by jebsib on Jun 14, 2014 17:21:16 GMT -5
Well, that's true, but here's another couple:
Jewel #1 for 9 weeks on Hot 100 airplay, couldn't get to #1.
Dionne Farris the most heard song for 7 weeks, couldn't get above #4 on the Hot 100.
Point is, nothing was a guarantee back in the 90s.
Awful - yet fascinating - time to be a chart watcher.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 14, 2014 19:00:09 GMT -5
Gary, what do you think of the new Hot 100 print layout? Sucks. Confusing to read. The 1984 re-design was the best way to read the charts. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 14, 2014 19:15:07 GMT -5
A 90s factor to put into play on some of these. As we all know several classic songs from the period were never released as singles. The production on many others stopped before the chart run of the single was over to help kill the single and promote the album
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Post by jebsib on Jun 14, 2014 19:28:37 GMT -5
areyouready, I agree about the Oct '84 redesign; Tragically it would seem too dull by today's standards.
I can't believe the chart is now THREE pages! It's like an article.
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