Billboard Hot 100 : 06/28/2014

[josh]

Technically you pay for them right away. You then get a discount when the full album is released, though.

[Gary]

I get what people are saying but....These pre-order songs are eligible to chart though and have before.


So although we can exclude them in personal lists if we like, the official ones do not

[chartfreak]

But you can still purchase them on their own if you did not preorde the album, so there really is no way of knowing if they are staying near the top longer because of individual sales.

[Au$tin]

Jun 17, 2014 10:49:22 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get what people are saying but....These pre-order songs are eligible to chart though and have before.


So although we can exclude them in personal lists if we like, the official ones do not

I believe the reason people exclude them is because they're extremely frontloaded and end up not selling a whole lot anyway, so they don't impact the chart very much.

[Gary]

Jun 17, 2014 10:58:50 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 17, 2014 10:49:22 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get what people are saying but....These pre-order songs are eligible to chart though and have before.


So although we can exclude them in personal lists if we like, the official ones do not

I believe the reason people exclude them is because they're extremely frontloaded and end up not selling a whole lot anyway, so they don't impact the chart very much.

I know but they do impact the chart.  It might not have long term impact but the chart we all follow is based on 7 days, so given that timeframe, these songs can and have before had a short term impact big enough to chart high

[Au$tin]

Jun 17, 2014 11:06:50 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jun 17, 2014 10:58:50 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I believe the reason people exclude them is because they're extremely frontloaded and end up not selling a whole lot anyway, so they don't impact the chart very much.

I know but they do impact the chart.  It might not have long term impact but the chart we all follow is based on 7 days, so given that timeframe, these songs can and have before had a short term impact big enough to chart high

I'm talking about 7 days, though. They crash so fast that they really don't even impact the chart much on the one week they're in. With no airplay and streaming, those songs are going to debut very low and fall off the next week, so that's why they get excluded.

[Gary]

Jun 17, 2014 11:13:41 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 17, 2014 11:06:50 GMT -5 Gary said:

I know but they do impact the chart.  It might not have long term impact but the chart we all follow is based on 7 days, so given that timeframe, these songs can and have before had a short term impact big enough to chart high

I'm talking about 7 days, though. They crash so fast that they really don't even impact the chart much on the one week they're in. With no airplay and streaming, those songs are going to debut very low and fall off the next week, so that's why they get excluded.

I will bow out here. I agree 110% that personal lists can have whatever exclusions you want. All I am saying is the Hot 100 does not make those same exclusions. In other words advance singles are not removed simply because they are sales only with no airplay and streaming.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

June 30, 1979

01 03 Ring My Bell - Anita Ward (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Hot Stuff - Donna Summer
03 05 Bad Girls - Donna Summer
04 02 We Are Family - Sister Sledge
05 07 Chuck E's In Love - Rickie Lee Jones
06 06 The Logical Song - Supertramp
07 08 She Believes In Me - Kenny Rogers
08 09 Boogie Wonderland - Earth, Wind & Fire w/The Emotions
09 04 Just When I Needed You Most - Randy VanWarmer
10 10 You Take My Breath Away - Rex Smith


June 30, 1984

01 01 The Reflex - Duran Duran (2nd and final week at #1)
02 04 Dancing In The Dark - Bruce Springsteen
03 08 When Doves Cry - Prince
04 05 Self Control - Laura Branigan
05 07 Jump (For My Love) - The Pointer Sisters
06 06 The Heart Of Rock & Roll - Huey Lewis & The News
07 02 Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
08 10 Eyes Without a Face - Billy Idol
09 03 Let's Hear It For The Boy - Deniece Williams
10 12 Almost Paradise - Mike Reno & Ann Wilson


July 1, 1989

01 04 Baby Don't Forget My Number - Milli Vanilli (1st and only week at #1)
02 05 Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals
03 01 Satisfied - Richard Marx
04 03 Buffalo Stance - Neneh Cherry
05 11 If You Don't Know Me By Now - Simply Red
06 13 Express Yourself - Madonna
07 07 This Time I Know It's For Real - Donna Summer
08 12 I Drove All Night - Cyndi Lauper
09 09 Miss You Like Crazy - Natalie Cole
10 02 I'll Be Loving You (Forever) - New Kids On The Block


June 25, 1994

01 01 I Swear - All-4-One (6th of 11 weeks at #1)
02 03 Any Time, Any Place / And On And On - Janet Jackson
03 05 Regulate - Warren G & Nate Dogg
04 04 Don't Turn Around - Ace Of Base
05 02 I'll Remember - Madonna
06 06 Back And Forth - Aaliyah
07 07 You Mean The World To Me - Toni Braxton
08 08 The Sign - Ace Of Base
09 09 Baby I Love Your Way - Big Mountain
10 14 Stay (I Missed You) - Lisa Loeb & Nine Stories

12 15 Anytime You Need a Friend - Mariah Carey

[Verisimilitude]

VEVO Streams:

[Deleted]

Whoa Cheryl *-*

[jebsib]

LMAO at the weakest Milli Vanilli copycat followup outperforming the 'classic'!

[HolidayGuy]

"We Are One" should reach a new peak, post-start of World Cup, but, with sales not being too hot, probably will fall short of top 40?

[Gary]

The Uzbekistan-Americans should be buying this in droves and should help it, no?






(just kidding)

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

It's sales peaked in the mid-50s. With minimal airplay (about 2 million AI from Latin radio) and strong streaming, it should be around the middle of the chart, I would think.

[ificanthaveyou]

Dark Horse's video performance has been so impressive to me. Hit it out the park and I still think the video isn't the best.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Jun 17, 2014 15:21:14 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Dark Horse's video performance has been so impressive to me. Hit it out the park and I still think the video isn't the best.

Clearly people like me love it!

[brucelover]

ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Bailando f/D.Bueno/S.Paul/GDZ: 18.878 (+1.319)

YES. This is the best bop of 2014 (the Spanish version, but the English one is alright too). Enrique is best when he does this type of music, not the EDM crap.

[Deleted]

Jun 17, 2014 11:38:47 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jun 17, 2014 11:13:41 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I'm talking about 7 days, though. They crash so fast that they really don't even impact the chart much on the one week they're in. With no airplay and streaming, those songs are going to debut very low and fall off the next week, so that's why they get excluded.

I will bow out here. I agree 110% that personal lists can have whatever exclusions you want. All I am saying is the Hot 100 does not make those same exclusions. In other words advance singles are not removed simply because they are sales only with no airplay and streaming.

Yes but the point is that those songs typically don't impact enough be in the weekly top 10 best-selling songs unlike official singles which only fall after some weeks/months later (i.e. Problem) when people don't care about them anymore. They really should just call it digital singles to more accurately reflect actual song popularity on iTunes IMO.

[Gary]

Jun 17, 2014 13:00:10 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

"We Are One" should reach a new peak, post-start of World Cup, but, with sales not being too hot, probably will fall short of top 40?

If soccer had a bigger following here the song would too

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Jun 17, 2014 11:06:50 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jun 17, 2014 10:58:50 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I believe the reason people exclude them is because they're extremely frontloaded and end up not selling a whole lot anyway, so they don't impact the chart very much.

I know but they do impact the chart.  It might not have long term impact but the chart we all follow is based on 7 days, so given that timeframe, these songs can and have before had a short term impact big enough to chart high

Exactly. If people didn't want it they wouldn't buy it. That's the bottom line. People just don't like it when their fave isn't able to pull off big sales for promo singles.

[imbondz]

or if it was a good song

[Kris]

1. IGGY AZALEA – Fancy: 184.634 (+ 1.691) ▲
2. JOHN LEGEND – All Of Me: 181.405 (- 2.904) ▼
3. ARIANA GRANDE – Problem f/Iggy Azalea: 161.281 (+ 2.924)
4. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Not A Bad Thing: 139.168 (- 2.776)
5. NICO & VINZ – Am I Wrong: 126.593 (+ 3.726) ▲
6. PARAMORE – Ain’t It Fun: 122.645 (- 1.138) ▼
7. CALVIN HARRIS – Summer: 120.479 (+ 1.223)
8. MAGIC! – Rude: 112.179 (+ 4.043) ▲
9. DJ SNAKE & LIL JON – Turn Down For What: 110.998 (- 1.546) ▼
10. PHARRELL WILLIAMS – Happy: 102.658 (- 0.458)
11. KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 99.106 (- 1.272)
12. RIXTON – Me And My Broken Heart: 94.055 (- 0.615)
13. ED SHEERAN – Sing: 86.989 (- 0.910)
14. SAM SMITH – Stay With Me: 84.130 (+ 2.286) ▲
15. KATY PERRY – Birthday: 82.781 (- 0.470) ▼
16. BASTILLE – Pompeii: 75.588 (- 0.599)
17. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 70.233 (- 0.969)
18. DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 69.732 (+ 1.211)
19. JASON DERULO – Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 67.859 (- 0.582)
20. JUSTIN MOORE – Lettin’ The Night Roll: 67.798 (+ 0.117) ▲


BRETT ELDREDGE – Beat Of The Music: 66.504 (- 1.387)
JAKE OWEN – Beachin’: 62.380 (+ 0.793)
BLAKE SHELTON – My Eyes: 61.275 (+ 1.127)
JASON DERULO – Wiggle f/Snoop Dogg: 57.949 (+ 1.200)
TYLER FARR – Whiskey In My Water: 57.518 (+ 0.382)
CHRIS YOUNG – Who I Am With You: 55.891 (+ 1.173)
MKTO – Classic: 55.430 (+ 0.159)
ONEREPUBLIC – Love Runs Out: 50.950 (+ 1.054)
CRAIG CAMPBELL – Keep Them Kisses Comin’: 50.817 (+ 0.301)
M. JACKSON & J. TIMBERLAKE – Love Never Felt So Good: 47.216 (+ 0.109)
USHER – Good Kisser: 41.836 (+ 0.158)
KONGOS – Come With Me Now: 38.028 (+ 0.331)
LIL WAYNE – Believe Me f/Drake: 32.943 (+ 0.824)
PHARRELL WILLIAMS – Come Get It Bae: 29.310 (+ 0.785)
LADY ANTEBELLUM – Bartender: 27.796 (+ 0.748)
MAROON 5 – Maps: 25.281 (+ 4.866)
LORDE – Tennis Court: 24.383 (+ 0.481)
JENNIFER LOPEZ – First Love: 21.385 (+ 1.014)
NICKI MINAJ – Pills N Potions: 20.808 (+ 0.761)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Bailando f/D.Bueno/S.Paul/GDZ: 19.849 (+ 0.971)
M. LAMBERT & C. UNDERWOOD – Somethin’ Bad: 16.391 (+ 1.023)
ONE DIRECTION – You & I: 16.324 (- 0.012)
DEMI LOVATO – Really Don’t Care f/Cher Lloyd: 15.230 (+ 0.994)
SIA – Chandelier: 14.138 (- 0.117)
COLDPLAY – A Sky Full Of Stars: 13.065 (+ 0.131)
NE-YO – Money Can’t Buy f/Jeezy: 7.679 (+ 0.160)
LITTLE BIG TOWN – Day Drinking: 6.446 (+ 0.421)
T.I. – No Mediocre f/Iggy Azalea: 5.618 (+ 0.875)
CHARLI XCX – Boom Clap: 4.384 (+ 0.964)
BEYONCE – Pretty Hurts: 3.094 (+ 0.356)

[Deleted]

Yasssss explode Nico & Vinz, that song just makes me so happy! 

[Kris]

It looks like the entire top 5 will be gaining once Rude and Summer get there.

[HolidayGuy]

"First Love" should be bolded- it had American Top 40 exposure over the weekend, and on-air album-listening promo yesterday (at least I think, on that last one).

Is there something that suddenly caused "Rude" to take off even more in the last few weeks?

[chartfreak]

Jun 18, 2014 6:29:31 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

"First Love" should be bolded- it had American Top 40 exposure over the weekend, and on-air album-listening promo yesterday (at least I think, on that last one).

Is there something that suddenly caused "Rude" to take off even more in the last few weeks?

Rude is a great song, I'm sure it because of positive feedback.

[Deleted]

I feel quite confident that Rude will be the next #1.

[josh]

Just like everyone was confident "Problem" was going to be #1, everyone is so confident "Rude" is going to be #1. Ok.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Jun 18, 2014 8:58:53 GMT -5 josh said:

Just like everyone was confident "Problem" was going to be #1, everyone is so confident "Rude" is going to be #1. Ok.

The video killed any chances the song had of going to #1. I mean Ariana has no presence at all. She gets lost. It's almost like her dancers have more star power than she does. You don't release a video that makes an artist's weak points stand out in a bad way. It's obvious she is uncomfortable being the type of woman who can carry a song like Problem. Forcing her to dance in a video where she looks completely uncomfortable reinforces that and takes away from people's enjoyment of the song and video thus lowering streams to the point of it'll probably be impossible for her to get #1 on the HOT 100 short of a miracle.

[josh]

Except the video is still #2 on Vevo, and the lyric video is #9. Not to mention #2 on Spotify, etc. It's got big streaming numbers.