badrobot
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Post by badrobot on Jul 16, 2014 18:20:36 GMT -5
Shots and I'm in Miami Bitch both were culturally memorable even if they didn't peak high.
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Post by felipe on Jul 16, 2014 18:25:25 GMT -5
The only way "Dark Horse" would deserve the year-end No. 1 is if it accumulated the most chart points for its Hot 100 run during the period covered. This consistent nitpicking on the semantics of "deserve" is getting old. Basically everyone here already knows Billboard charts are based on points, and that doesn't mean one can't use the word "deserve" to express their preferences. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 16, 2014 18:49:18 GMT -5
I love this too:
"Fffffffffffffooooooooiiiiiiillllllllllssssssss"
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Post by alfonzo on Jul 16, 2014 19:04:09 GMT -5
Anyone else think it's weird that these articles ignore Ace of Base when discussing reggae at the top? Admittedly they were like reggae-pop fusion or something but there was definitely a reggae element there. Especially after they called "Beautiful Girls" a reggae song. Ace of Base are like Bob Marley in comparison. |
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Post by alfonzo on Jul 16, 2014 19:08:44 GMT -5
I love this too: "Fffffffffffffooooooooiiiiiiillllllllllssssssss" Double post, but Weird Al's really been on top of his game lately. This, Word Crimes and Tacky are all far better than any song off of his last album. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 16, 2014 19:12:37 GMT -5
How do the streaming and on-demand levels for this summer's top tracks compare to those of previous years? I ask because Fancy, Rude, Problem and Am I Wrong have received blockbuster levels of exposure, and Sam Smith has received monster levels of buzz. Reviews and fan reaction are largely strong as well. So there's no obvious excuse for the low weekly sales figures. You can't just use the big name argument because, as others have mentioned, the last few "songs of the summer" came from people without names. Wondering if the (presumed) rise of streaming, particularly mechanisms like Spotify, is playing any sort of role. Well, it has been clear for awhile now (and has been getting there more quickly as of late) that "celebrity" doesn't translate into the buying of product. That's why musicians, actors, etc. are having to find other avenues - clothing lines, TV shows, perfumes, big tours - of making money. I mean, for all their celebrity, Beyonce, Miley, and Rihanna have never had huge album sales (actually, didn't Miley sell more when she was a Nickelodeon star?). |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jul 16, 2014 19:24:21 GMT -5
Florida Georgia Line's 'Dirt' Plows To No. 1 On Hot Country Songs www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6157857/florida-georgia-lines-dirt-plows-to-no-1-on-hot-country-songsThe lead single from the duo's forthcoming second album arrives atop Country Digital Songs with 182,000 first-week downloads sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It also bows at No. 1 on Country Streaming Songs with 2.2 million U.S. streams (with 74 percent from Vevo On YouTube), according to Nielsen BDS. With 19 million audience impressions, the song storms Country Airplay at No. 16, where it's the act's highest launch. On the overall Billboard Hot 100, "Dirt" debuts at No. 11, marking the highest entrance for a country duo in the chart's nearly 56-year history. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 16, 2014 19:34:26 GMT -5
How do the streaming and on-demand levels for this summer's top tracks compare to those of previous years? I ask because Fancy, Rude, Problem and Am I Wrong have received blockbuster levels of exposure, and Sam Smith has received monster levels of buzz. Reviews and fan reaction are largely strong as well. So there's no obvious excuse for the low weekly sales figures. You can't just use the big name argument because, as others have mentioned, the last few "songs of the summer" came from people without names. Wondering if the (presumed) rise of streaming, particularly mechanisms like Spotify, is playing any sort of role. Well, it has been clear for awhile now (and has been getting there more quickly as of late) that "celebrity" doesn't translate into the buying of product. That's why musicians, actors, etc. are having to find other avenues - clothing lines, TV shows, perfumes, big tours - of making money. I mean, for all their celebrity, Beyonce, Miley, and Rihanna have never had huge album sales (actually, didn't Miley sell more when she was a Nickelodeon star?). I'd say 2 million is HUGE sales given the time period.. Last year the top selling album only sold a little over 2 million. Dangerously in Love sold 5 million copies? That isn't HUGE? |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 16, 2014 19:46:37 GMT -5
^He might have meant digital single sales?
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 16, 2014 20:00:22 GMT -5
How do the streaming and on-demand levels for this summer's top tracks compare to those of previous years? I ask because Fancy, Rude, Problem and Am I Wrong have received blockbuster levels of exposure, and Sam Smith has received monster levels of buzz. Reviews and fan reaction are largely strong as well. So there's no obvious excuse for the low weekly sales figures. You can't just use the big name argument because, as others have mentioned, the last few "songs of the summer" came from people without names. Wondering if the (presumed) rise of streaming, particularly mechanisms like Spotify, is playing any sort of role. Well, it has been clear for awhile now (and has been getting there more quickly as of late) that "celebrity" doesn't translate into the buying of product. That's why musicians, actors, etc. are having to find other avenues - clothing lines, TV shows, perfumes, big tours - of making money. I mean, for all their celebrity, Beyonce, Miley, and Rihanna have never had huge album sales (actually, didn't Miley sell more when she was a Nickelodeon star?). *disney star And Beyoncés album sales have been very strong . Rihanna is a consistent million+ seller . The Hannah Montana albums did sell really well for Miley |
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Post by irice22 on Jul 16, 2014 20:23:46 GMT -5
Anyone else think it's weird that these articles ignore Ace of Base when discussing reggae at the top? Admittedly they were like reggae-pop fusion or something but there was definitely a reggae element there. Especially after they called "Beautiful Girls" a reggae song. Ace of Base are like Bob Marley in comparison. Are we all talking about the same Ace of Base? I have not once thought of considering them to be reggae. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 16, 2014 20:23:48 GMT -5
Actually, felipe, it also is getting old when I see posters say something "deserves" a chart position when the charts have nothing to do with the likes of one particular individual. But, such is life.
In any event, moot point, as "Happy" looks to be the best-performing track of the year and probably will take No. 1 on the year-end chart.
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Post by alfonzo on Jul 16, 2014 20:27:40 GMT -5
Especially after they called "Beautiful Girls" a reggae song. Ace of Base are like Bob Marley in comparison. Are we all talking about the same Ace of Base? I have not once thought of considering them to be reggae. I wouldn't call them straight up reggae, but "All That She Wants" and "Dont Turn Around" definitely have reggae elements in them. |
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Post by badrobot on Jul 16, 2014 20:48:07 GMT -5
From their Wikipedia: "The song became All That She Wants, a dark fusion of dub-reggae with pop which became the band's trademark sound."
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Post by Gary on Jul 16, 2014 21:05:29 GMT -5
My 2 cents on this
1. It is a bit of a reach to call All That She Wants a Reggae song but fine it may have elements if Reggae, I think there is even a Reggae remix
2. It is also a bit of a stretch to call it a #1 song (it peaked at #2)
Either way it was correctly omitted from the list of Reggae #1's on the Hot 100
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 16, 2014 21:39:01 GMT -5
From their Wikipedia: "The song became All That She Wants, a dark fusion of dub-reggae with pop which became the band's trademark sound." Until "Beautiful Life" in '95, that is... |
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Post by felipe on Jul 16, 2014 21:46:20 GMT -5
Actually, felipe, it also is getting old when I see posters say something "deserves" a chart position when the charts have nothing to do with the likes of one particular individual. But, such is life. But the word "deserve" can be used to talk about personal preferences. You might have a problem with that but you can't change the language. People say stuff like this all the time, "this team deserves to win," "he deserves a prize," and so on. When someone says "this film deserves an Oscar," it doesn't mean they don't know the award goes to the film with the most votes, they're just expressing their opinions. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 16, 2014 22:37:21 GMT -5
Well, it has been clear for awhile now (and has been getting there more quickly as of late) that "celebrity" doesn't translate into the buying of product. That's why musicians, actors, etc. are having to find other avenues - clothing lines, TV shows, perfumes, big tours - of making money. I mean, for all their celebrity, Beyonce, Miley, and Rihanna have never had huge album sales (actually, didn't Miley sell more when she was a Nickelodeon star?). Dangerously in Love sold 5 million copies? That isn't HUGE? didn't sell huge all things considered. For one, album sales were still pretty strong when that album was released. For another, the album spawned two big #1s (plus other hits), Beyonce won awards left and right and had performances all over, etc. I also think to something like "Single Ladies" which had a lot of airplay, a famous video, was a pop culture staple used in many different shows, and so on yet isn't one of the top digital sellers. When you consider that exposure-wise (i.e. media coverage, airplay, awards, and so on) Beyonce has been the biggest music star of the past 15 years, it's telling that her overall album sales and #1s don't match that. It's all bizarre, in a way. Anyway, we have gotten off track here. My real point was simply to say that it's obvious that "celebrity" and all it entails no longer guarantees people buy the music product. |
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Post by raprulestheworld on Jul 16, 2014 23:32:48 GMT -5
What y'all think will be #1 after Rude?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 0:22:36 GMT -5
What y'all think will be #1 after Rude? I'm hoping for Am I Wrong but it's unlikely... Possibly Stay with Me or Maps? But I think Rude will get a good 4 weeks at #1 it'll still be a few weeks before a new #1... |
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Post by raprulestheworld on Jul 17, 2014 0:24:39 GMT -5
^ And then what? Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 0:26:44 GMT -5
After Stay with Me/Maps I would think it's gonna be in such a long time that the next #1 after them is probably something that hasn't even come out yet  EDIT: btw don't quote me on Maps being #1 in the future because I'm unsure of that happening at all lol it is just a guess! |
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Post by rimetm on Jul 17, 2014 5:21:02 GMT -5
Last minute stuff!
12. Happy
14. Turn Down for What
15. Dark Horse
21. Shower
22. Loyal
26. Counting Stars
27. 2 On
28. Pompeii
30. Talk Dirty
32. Rather Be
36. Bartender
40. I Don't Dance
41. Sing
44. Let it Go
45. Pills 'n Potions
48. Best Day of My Life
51. A Sky Full of Stars
53. Studio
58. Birthday
60. My Eyes
71. Don't Tell 'em
72. She Looks So Perfect
73. Leave the Night On
77. Cut Her Off
79. Good Kisser
90. Move That Doh
93. Amnesia
97. Chainsaw
GONE
Timber
HEATSEEKER GRADUATE
Wasted
POSSIBLE ENTRY
All About That Bass
Cool Kids
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jul 17, 2014 5:42:02 GMT -5
rimetm View the Spotify playlist (Play entire chart, choose Spotify) . You could see the top 80 (Only those that are available in Spotify) 11. Dirt 12. Happy 13. Chandelier 14. Turn Down for What 15. Dark Horse 16. Boom Clap 17. Love Runs Out 18. Classic 19. Break Free 20. Ain't It Fun
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 5:58:36 GMT -5
Ok! Thank God Happy is still higher than Dark Horse! And finally Rather Be entered top 50!  and Counting Stars went back up YES! xD so many songs fell like a stone this week :/ (Birthday, Sing Let It Go, probably Not a Bad Thing...) |
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Post by Gary on Jul 17, 2014 6:14:16 GMT -5
Happy has been ahead of Dark Horse for 21 consecutive weeks. 5 more months until the OFFICIAL reveal on what song is #1. You are going to be a bit of a trainwreck by then - LOL
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Post by rimetm on Jul 17, 2014 6:14:26 GMT -5
Not a Bad Thing falls 26-34, so yeah, it's a pretty hard fall. I wonder if this is like the push around May where a bunch of the songs from the beginning of the year started to tumble down the charts at an accelerated rate (Burn, Show Me, Animals, and Bottoms Up were all examples back then)
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Post by Fancy on Jul 17, 2014 6:14:28 GMT -5
shower and 2 on rising  |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jul 17, 2014 6:16:39 GMT -5
Ok! And finally Rather Be entered top 50 40! Or should I say top 32?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 6:17:24 GMT -5
Not a Bad Thing falls 26-34, so yeah, it's a pretty hard fall. I wonder if this is like the push around May where a bunch of the songs from the beginning of the year started to tumble down the charts at an accelerated rate (Burn, Show Me, Animals, and Bottoms Up were all examples back then) Ok that's not TOO bad, I was expecting that it went down to like #40...and with the exit of Timber, Counting Stars follows in the shadow of Apologize in outlasting the songs that blocked it from #1...OneRepublic definitely has the longevity factor (CS will spend 65-70 weeks on the chart) in their songs, but if only they could get them to have that high enough peak to top the chart :( |
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