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Post by flyingsilvereagle on Nov 6, 2014 18:06:13 GMT -5
Any word yet on a new single? You would think with the album release this coming week they would release a second single to help with sales. I haven't heard for sure on a single. He did say at his press conference in Minneapolis today though that he will be playing "Mom" on Good Morning America tomorrow morning. From what I have heard from that song though it wouldn't do anything on radio. He also mentioned that he will be starting social media on Tuesday to coincide with the launch of the album and specifically mentioned Twitter.
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Post by gardyfan on Nov 7, 2014 9:06:29 GMT -5
After seeing him last night, I am convinced Man Against Machine should have been the lead off single.
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Post by carriekins on Nov 7, 2014 9:33:55 GMT -5
After seeing him last night, I am convinced Man Against Machine should have been the lead off single. I thought that song was horrible when I saw him.
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Post by house on Nov 7, 2014 12:37:38 GMT -5
Garth performing "Mom" this morning on Good Morning America. Just wow...
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Post by gopolks on Nov 7, 2014 16:27:08 GMT -5
Wow is Right. The song Mom, is going to be one of the biggest of his career.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Nov 7, 2014 18:58:02 GMT -5
Oh damn I'm sobbing like a kid after listening to that. That should have been the first single! Wow!
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Post by someguy on Nov 7, 2014 20:06:06 GMT -5
That song is fantastic. Not sure how radio would react to it, but that's Song of the Year material imo.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 7, 2014 20:21:22 GMT -5
That song is fantastic. Not sure how radio would react to it, but that's Song of the Year material imo. Oh good, I'm not the only one with that reaction. I agree the song is stellar and easily one of the best Garth has put out (though I was never a huge fan of his), but I don't think this would quite work at radio. Just because it's Garth doesn't mean it will equate to automatic success anymore and releasing a slow emotional ballad will not help. I still think an upbeat traditional Garth song is the best style song to release to radio right now. Not saying that "Mom" can't be released at a later date, but I just feel it's too risky right now with the flame out of "People Loving People". They've got to get the next single choice right.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Nov 7, 2014 21:07:37 GMT -5
I'm listening to the preview on Ghostunes. Man I can't wait for this album. These songs are all classic Garth!
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Post by lasvegaskid on Nov 9, 2014 21:20:05 GMT -5
Gotta hear the studio version first but I don't think this does anything at radio. Don't like it as much as PLP.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Nov 9, 2014 21:44:17 GMT -5
I know it was a decade ago but Blake Shelton had a huge hit with a sappy Mama song "The Baby", so I hope that in this day and age "Mom" can do the same thing. I agree with Garth, it's his best song since "The Dance."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 22:04:14 GMT -5
^ While I do enjoy this, I can't help but feel that this song sounds awkward being sung by a man, a female approach to this would have been so much better. Still a great song though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 12:56:12 GMT -5
^ While I do enjoy this, I can't help but feel that this song sounds awkward being sung by a man, a female approach to this would have been so much better. Still a great song though Bonnie Tyler was the original artist of this. Her version had more of an impact with me. It's not bad when Garth sings it, but Bonnie's version is far better.
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Post by bjer127 on Nov 10, 2014 18:44:20 GMT -5
My local Walmart had this out today. I picked up a copy. First listen it's a solid album. Some good traditional songs but also some weirdly produced ones. 4 stars
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Post by someguy on Nov 10, 2014 18:52:11 GMT -5
I bought this at Walmart today, too. After one listen, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I don't like it quite as much as I thought I would, at first at least. I'm hoping that it grows on me after more listens. After hearing the whole album, "People Loving People" doesn't seem as poor a choice of a lead single as I initially thought.
I think "Wrong About You" is far and away the best choice for the next single, although I like "Mom" and "Send 'Em On Down The Road" better. I just think that "Wrong About You" is his best shot at a big hit.
"Man Against Machine" (the song) is quite odd. I hope that they don't try that one at radio (but I could see it happening).
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Post by josephmorgan on Nov 10, 2014 19:02:13 GMT -5
If "WAY" is released as a single, it will be one of the shortest songs to hit the chart, at just 1:55. It will harken back to when most songs of the 50's and 60's were short.
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Post by someguy on Nov 10, 2014 19:04:47 GMT -5
If "WAY" is released as a single, it will be one of the shortest songs to hit the chart, at just 1:55. It will harken back to when most songs of the 50's and 60's were short. Oh I just realized that. Funny how I didn't notice how short it is when I was listening to it in my truck on my way home tonight. Never mind then, it probably won't be a single. I don't know why they didn't add a bit more to it to make it an appropriate length for radio. I think it's easily the most 2014-radio friendly song on the album.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 10, 2014 19:07:43 GMT -5
HITS just posted their early predictions at Man Against Machine selling between 250k-300k in its opening week. They also predict that Taylor Swift will sell 250k. Releasing this song as a comeback lead single was such a huge mistake. Without the help of a new hit at radio/in sales/through promo (where has he done anything besides performing on GMA a couple of days ago?), he may have potentially screwed himself out of a Billboard 200 #1 debut.
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Post by someguy on Nov 10, 2014 19:10:22 GMT -5
HITS just posted their early predictions at Man Against Machine selling between 250k-300k in its opening week. They also predict that Taylor Swift will sell 250k. Releasing this song as a comeback lead single was such a huge mistake. Without the help of a new hit at radio/in sales/through promo (where has he done anything besides performing on GMA a couple of days ago?), he may have potentially screwed himself out of a Billboard 200 #1 debut. I think you're absolutely right, but honestly though, I don't hear a huge immediate smash hit on the album, at least not in 2014 (considering "Wrong About You"'s length - I would've said that one otherwise). I'm honestly not sure what they could have gone with as the big comeback single, based on the choices on the album.
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Post by gopolks on Nov 10, 2014 19:32:05 GMT -5
If anyone thinks that Garth's man against Machine will only sell between 250-300K for its first week, they really need to take a long hard look itself.
This thing will push 500K.
Again, take a look at Garth's world tour, hes still breaking records, his fans have waited 13 years for a new album, If this album sells less than 300K I would be shocked.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 10, 2014 19:41:07 GMT -5
If anyone thinks that Garth's man against Machine will only sell between 250-300K for its first week, they really need to take a long hard look itself. This thing will push 500K. Again, take a look at Garth's world tour, hes still breaking records, his fans have waited 13 years for a new album, If this album sells less than 300K I would be shocked. HITS has been pretty off with their predictions this year (they originally pegged 1989 to open with 650k, but that was also 2 months before it was released; they later bumped their preliminary call to 950k, with gradual updates throughout her release week bumping up the call), but with the lack of televised promo for this album and the lack of a hit single at Country radio ( why couldn't he perform at the CMAs again?), I'd be shocked if he cleared 400k in his opening week. It's so funny how we're discussing these numbers as if they're poor or lackluster when a 250k-300k debut for any artist of any genre is absolutely fantastic for this day of age. I guess I was just expecting a much larger opening for Brooks, but with the way the album rollout has been handled coming into this week's release, my expectations have been severely diminshed, and HITS' predictions definitely didn't help.
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Post by gopolks on Nov 10, 2014 19:57:11 GMT -5
Sure people loving people was a poor choice as a first single, and he hasnt done much tv, but hes still Garth, he still has a massive fanbase, for a site like Hitsdailydouble to think Garth can only pull in 250K for his first week? Its nuts.
Yes 250K-300K is a brilliant number for most artists.
Despite the lack of promotion for this album, Garth could sell this in his sleep. Its far too low, just take a look at how successful the start of his world tour has been.
I guess we will wait and see, but Im guessing around 500K for the first week.
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Post by jameyjohnsonfan on Nov 10, 2014 20:00:47 GMT -5
Does anyone know why he didn't perform at the awards even though he was there ? I can't figure out why you have one of your biggest stars ever make a comeback and not let him sang. Meanwhile you let the Dobbie brothers get 2 songs.
Can't wait to hear the cd I have high hopes been waiting on this day for years
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 10, 2014 20:05:14 GMT -5
Sure people loving people was a poor choice as a first single, and he hasnt done much tv, but hes still Garth, he still has a massive fanbase, for a site like Hitsdailydouble to think Garth can only pull in 250K for his first week? Its nuts. Yes 250K-300K is a brilliant number for most artists. Despite the lack of promotion for this album, Garth could sell this in his sleep. Its far too low, just take a look at how successful the start of his world tour has been. I guess we will wait and see, but Im guessing around 500K for the first week. I think you are way overestimating Garth's pull in today's world. There's no hit single to promote this (in fact People Loving People might have even hurt it's sales IMO), very few TV/Media appearances, and it won't be on iTunes. A large amount of his fans still probably don't know what Ghost Tunes is, and he's going to take a hit in the digital sales area. Yeah his tour is selling well, but that's mostly because people want to hear his greatest hits, and not his new material. In fact, I think 250k would be a great start for Garth all things considered. There's also no reason why a second single hasn't been sent to radio yet, that is a huge misfire.
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Post by someguy on Nov 10, 2014 20:08:06 GMT -5
The only reason I can see for them holding off on a second single is that they want to see fan/media reaction when the album comes out, and pick the most popular choice as the second single. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense, because I completely agree that a second single should have been sent immediately after "People Loving People" stalled. I'm expecting an announcement at some point this week.
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Post by gopolks on Nov 10, 2014 20:25:39 GMT -5
Ive read that the second single will be released on November 17th and will be the song "mom"
Yes he hasnt done a lot of tv work, but he is going to sing at The American Music Awards.
Hes doing a social media thing tomorrow.
Perhaps I'm over estimating his pulling power, but he is still selling tickets like he did in the 90's, so the fanbase is still there.
Im just so excited and cant wait for tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 20:34:26 GMT -5
Sure people loving people was a poor choice as a first single, and he hasnt done much tv, but hes still Garth, he still has a massive fanbase, for a site like Hitsdailydouble to think Garth can only pull in 250K for his first week? Its nuts. Yes 250K-300K is a brilliant number for most artists. Despite the lack of promotion for this album, Garth could sell this in his sleep. Its far too low, just take a look at how successful the start of his world tour has been. I guess we will wait and see, but Im guessing around 500K for the first week. I think you are way overestimating Garth's pull in today's world. There's no hit single to promote this (in fact People Loving People might have even hurt it's sales IMO), very few TV/Media appearances, and it won't be on iTunes. A large amount of his fans still probably don't know what Ghost Tunes is, and he's going to take a hit in the digital sales area. Yeah his tour is selling well, but that's mostly because people want to hear his greatest hits, and not his new material. In fact, I think 250k would be a great start for Garth all things considered. There's also no reason why a second single hasn't been sent to radio yet, that is a huge misfire. 100% agree here. Garth is a legend in his own right, but it's not like PLP is a massive smash. Things have changed so much in the past 4-5 years alone, I don't expect someone like Garth (who is quick to buck trends), to be nearly as successful as he once was. His touring impact is still absolutely phenomenal, though, and it's crazy he hasn't lost his touch in terms of having a massively successful live show after all these years.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 10, 2014 20:39:42 GMT -5
Ive read that the second single will be released on November 17th and will be the song "mom" Yes he hasnt done a lot of tv work, but he is going to sing at The American Music Awards. Hes doing a social media thing tomorrow. Perhaps I'm over estimating his pulling power, but he is still selling tickets like he did in the 90's, so the fanbase is still there. Im just so excited and cant wait for tomorrow. He is still selling tickets and concert tickets are selling the same (if not more) now than they did in the 90s. But albums are not selling. Garth is huge and still has a massive fanbase. But with that said, he's still not immune to the way the industry is now. Especially since he is not on iTunes.
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Post by gopolks on Nov 10, 2014 21:02:12 GMT -5
True, but those fans, have been dying to hear new music also. I guess time will tell.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 11, 2014 4:04:21 GMT -5
If he focused less on trying to change the music industry with this comeback and more on actually making this comeback successful and solely focused on him, I think he might've been able to see larger sales calls. This album's main focus has been more on Ghost Tunes and rebelling against iTunes than it has been about the music itself.
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