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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 17, 2017 1:10:36 GMT -5
I can't believe that make me came out six months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 2:32:11 GMT -5
The last thing I want is for Britney to be forced into a particular creative space. What made Britney Jean so bad and Femme Fatale so mediocre is that she wasn't granted the liberties she was allowed with Glory. Fans need to realize that her time as a hit maker is past her, and that's fine. She can continue making enough bank to support herself and her music without them because of the massive legacy she's built, and I think she's fine with it too. Hits won't make any future projects any better or worse. So long as the music is good she can flop for the rest of eternity.
More than anything, though, I don't want her shitting out another Femme Fatale because that's not going to work. I mean... case in point, Glory is on trend. s**t, Kiiara got a hit with 'Gold' and that doesn't even have a chorus. Experimental, ambient pop with affected/chopped-and-screwed vocals is on the money, and that's 80% of this album. These are the bops. This is what the public is consuming. They just don't want it from Britney, and she doesn't want to promote it to make them want it. Besides, pop is moving away from the idea of Britneys, Katys, and Gagas—the "superstar" hitmaker who can monopolize radio is dying (if not dead), and the fact that it took so long for her to be a casualty is astonishing. Hitting up Max Martin won't change that, though. She might get her 'On the Floor,' but just how much would she benefit from that, really? At this point, she should stop caring about the public altogether and focus on the fans.
If it makes anyone feel any better, we're on the cusp of an urban revival and it sounds like B10 is going to be significantly more so than this record. Whatever it is and whenever we get it, it'll likely be on the money.
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Post by adamalterlago on Jan 17, 2017 6:13:35 GMT -5
The last thing I want is for Britney to be forced into a particular creative space. What made Britney Jean so bad and Femme Fatale so mediocre is that she wasn't granted the liberties she was allowed with Glory. Fans need to realize that her time as a hit maker is past her, and that's fine. She can continue making enough bank to support herself and her music without them because of the massive legacy she's built, and I think she's fine with it too. Hits won't make any future projects any better or worse. So long as the music is good she can flop for the rest of eternity. More than anything, though, I don't want her shitting out another Femme Fatale because that's not going to work. I mean... case in point, Glory is on trend. s**t, Kiiara got a hit with 'Gold' and that doesn't even have a chorus. Experimental, ambient pop with affected/chopped-and-screwed vocals is on the money, and that's 80% of this album. These are the bops. This is what the public is consuming. They just don't want it from Britney, and she doesn't want to promote it to make them want it. Besides, pop is moving away from the idea of Britneys, Katys, and Gagas—the "superstar" hitmaker who can monopolize radio is dying (if not dead), and the fact that it took so long for her to be a casualty is astonishing. Hitting up Max Martin won't change that, though. She might get her 'On the Floor,' but just how much would she benefit from that, really? At the point, she should stop caring about the public altogether and focus on the fans. If it makes anyone feel any better, we're on the cusp of an urban revival and it sounds like B10 is going to be significantly more so than this record. Whatever it is and whenever we get it, it'll likely be on the money. I do wish she would get back in the studio with Pharrell although his production is nothing that it once was. So it would probably turn out lackluster anyway. I agree with a lot of what you are saying here. I think she should even get more experimental with her current sound. Glory had some pretty poppy, (yeah I said it) - corny moments that I think could have been left on the cutting room floor. And its too long. |
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 17, 2017 14:27:34 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jan 17, 2017 14:42:47 GMT -5
The last thing I want is for Britney to be forced into a particular creative space. What made Britney Jean so bad and Femme Fatale so mediocre is that she wasn't granted the liberties she was allowed with Glory. Fans need to realize that her time as a hit maker is past her, and that's fine. She can continue making enough bank to support herself and her music without them because of the massive legacy she's built, and I think she's fine with it too. Hits won't make any future projects any better or worse. So long as the music is good she can flop for the rest of eternity. More than anything, though, I don't want her shitting out another Femme Fatale because that's not going to work. I mean... case in point, Glory is on trend. s**t, Kiiara got a hit with 'Gold' and that doesn't even have a chorus. Experimental, ambient pop with affected/chopped-and-screwed vocals is on the money, and that's 80% of this album. These are the bops. This is what the public is consuming. They just don't want it from Britney, and she doesn't want to promote it to make them want it. Besides, pop is moving away from the idea of Britneys, Katys, and Gagas—the "superstar" hitmaker who can monopolize radio is dying (if not dead), and the fact that it took so long for her to be a casualty is astonishing. Hitting up Max Martin won't change that, though. She might get her 'On the Floor,' but just how much would she benefit from that, really? At the point, she should stop caring about the public altogether and focus on the fans. If it makes anyone feel any better, we're on the cusp of an urban revival and it sounds like B10 is going to be significantly more so than this record. Whatever it is and whenever we get it, it'll likely be on the money. Other Britney stans, take note. This post was spot on. I am totally confident that I am going to love the next Britney album as much as, if not more than, Glory...unless she gets scared and doubts her ear and instincts again. |
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Post by slw84 on Jan 17, 2017 17:06:46 GMT -5
Since Glory was kind of experimental for Britney, in the sense that it was typical dance-pop, I think it's time to go back to basics on the next album and just give us another standard pure pop/dance pop Britney record. She tried out the midtempos and stuff on this one, and unfortunately it just didn't connect. I think the public, for better or for worse, wants to hear the bops from Britney. They're just not here for midtempos like Make Me, SP, Just Luv Me, etc Unfortunately that just may be too true. I think she should work with Max Martin again and try out some new forward thinking but true to her roots pop music. Maybe she'll be the one to bring that sound back in! I had enough of this trap s**t anyway at this point. I don't want people to believe that a dance album equals FF. FF was solid but it's started a downward spiral in unique Britney. I feel as though B10 is going to be Blackout 2.0. Urban pop is where Britney elevates (Boys, Showdown, Early mornin, Outrageous, Blackout, Blur etc.). Even her experimental urban bops slay (intimidated, Mad love etc.). Her team will not go against the trend BUT at least they won't be at the end of the trend. They'll be in the middle of the urban pop trend. It's part of the reason why Love me down/better are great but won't work since it's way too 2015 to work in 2017. Blackout recorded in 2007 Blackout 2.0 recorded in 2017. That's part of the reason why I want RCA and Iheart programmers to get their desire of Just luv me as single. Britney and her son (her favorite one;)) want do you wanna come over to happen and it's not going to happen. Might as well have this be a commercial flop with quality mid tempo singles Make me, Slumber party and Just luv me. Her next album will probably serve 80% uptempo 20% mids probably. I just hope she preserves her sexy and personality. The only thing worse than her looking great, sounding great and feeling great during a commercial flop era is for her to serve FF bloatedness during a more danceable pop era. Come thru queen. Your 20 year legacy deserves the best. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 18:02:42 GMT -5
My Dream: She performs a medley of songs off Blackout at the 2017 VMA's and does em all justice slaying all these other hoes and 2007 is then lonnnnng behind her.
Will it happen, hell no it won't, I dowant her to at least perform Toy Soldier somewhere do cause she never did the song any justice.
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 17, 2017 19:59:45 GMT -5
I think the whole "Britney is over" thing is overrated though. One of the big reasons that she hasn't a hit is because she also hasn't done much to put herself out there. Notice how whenever Britney tends to promote, the songs do well (Make Me shooting to #2 iTunes VMA weekend, SP video helping Glory back into the Top 200), but then they don't do anything else for it besides like a one week thing. Hell, I remember with Work Bitch, when it got performed on Dancing with the Stars by Snooki it got a huge boost... when it played at the Peoples Choice Awards for 15 seconds while she was accepting her award it got a boost. I think people like Britney's music when they hear it, but the visibility is so low that it hurts any chance her new songs have at truly breaking out.
I think what hurts Britney right now is visibility. People barely know she has new music out because she doesn't do much with it. They'll put out one video, like with Slumber Party, and that was it. It's like they just expect things to still sell just based off her name, which after 20 years, is just not viable anymore.
Honestly, to me, she had her liberties with Glory and it flopped, so I don't see why B10 can't be a combination of some sure-fire hits, but also songs that Britney has a lot of creative control over it. I love Glory, but I have to admit, while I love MM and SP, none of these songs are instant smashes like Womanizer, Circus, Till the World Ends, etc. They are great, but their not first-listen hits.
Femme Fatale may have been by the books but honestly to me it's still a greatly crafted pop album. The production is on point and it just sounds really cohesive.
I guess at the end of the day I would like Britney to promote as hard as she could and then if she STILL couldn't get a hit after that, then it's time for the "Britney's irrelevant now" conversation, but it's hard to have that when the songs she's putting out really don't even get a proper chance.
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 17, 2017 20:02:20 GMT -5
Since Glory was kind of experimental for Britney, in the sense that it was typical dance-pop, I think it's time to go back to basics on the next album and just give us another standard pure pop/dance pop Britney record. She tried out the midtempos and stuff on this one, and unfortunately it just didn't connect. I think the public, for better or for worse, wants to hear the bops from Britney. They're just not here for midtempos like Make Me, SP, Just Luv Me, etc Unfortunately that just may be too true. I think she should work with Max Martin again and try out some new forward thinking but true to her roots pop music. Maybe she'll be the one to bring that sound back in! I had enough of this trap s**t anyway at this point. Exactly. I would love to just see what Max + Britney would put together in 2017. If they need a sure fire smash, that's obviously who to go, especially given their history. Even if it's a one-off single. Or even if Britney did a fun track with like Calvin/Martin/Zedd or something. Anything to get her back into radio's good graces again. Because I think the obituaries are a bit early. I maintain though that "Better" would've smashed. It sounds EXACTLY like what is smashing on the radio right now. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 18, 2017 23:02:23 GMT -5
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 19, 2017 0:41:24 GMT -5
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 19, 2017 1:34:06 GMT -5
I missed the first 20 minutes and nothing later had any Britney. Was all her stuff presented at the beginning?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 19, 2017 1:38:53 GMT -5
I missed the first 20 minutes and nothing later had any Britney. Was all her stuff presented at the beginning? None of her categories were presented in the telecast and when Ellen won her awards including Favorite Comedic Collaboration (only mentioned when she won Favorite Daytime Talk Show host and winning a record 20 PCAs), Britney wasn't mentioned. Zero mention of Britney at all except on the internet when the winners were revealed. |
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Post by slw84 on Jan 19, 2017 13:08:06 GMT -5
My gosh.
I had no idea the People's choice awards occurred.
But I agree that "britney is over" is really a myth.
You start out and you either become a successful new artist or not...
then you elevate to celebrity which can be fleeting.
then you become can become an A list superstar.
from there you can become an icon if you made the impact and had the influence that can't be forgotten.
An icon can represent a moment in time. If you don't have the longevity and true impact you settle for an iconic status (i.e. Gaga)
If you stand the test of time, have the success, impact and influence long term then you have reached legendary status.
Legends don't flop or at least their flops don't count after they become legends because they've already proven themselves and they are just putting out new product as artists
At any point, if a legend wanted to make a hit they would just have to make the right moves and get there.
Britney is a pop music, pop culture and entertainment legend. She only reached iconic music status (not legendary). Overall, she's a legend.
She can either put out music that her die hards will enjoy or she can push to get hits and add to her amazing catalog.
She's had enough classic hits in the late 90s, early 00s, late 00s, early 10s and enough iconic performances, visuals, moments to where a flop won't take away from her but a hit will add to her brand/catalog.
B10 needs to have her glory producers including bonus track producers like DJ mustard + Max martin and a fresh new producer.
I hope Max Martin can give her another hit but if not as long as she continues making quality music people will at least give her respect for the quality.
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Post by slw84 on Jan 20, 2017 16:21:34 GMT -5
Why can't Britney just perform a single at the People's Choice Awards?
They clearly love and support her and don't use her (coughs...MTV...coughs).
Hopefully she has a single out for B10 to perform at the 2018 or 2019 PCAs. Hopefully she has a lead single performed at the BBMAs and a later single performed at a place like the PCAs.
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 20, 2017 16:31:38 GMT -5
Why can't Britney just perform a single at the People's Choice Awards? They clearly love and support her and don't use her (coughs...MTV...coughs). Hopefully she has a single out for B10 to perform at the 2018 or 2019 PCAs. Hopefully she has a lead single performed at the BBMAs and a later single performed at a place like the PCAs. Well she had a show that night. But as for why she couldn't of pre-taped something from the Axis... your guess is as good as mine. |
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jan 21, 2017 7:41:04 GMT -5
Why can't Britney just perform a single at the People's Choice Awards? They clearly love and support her and don't use her (coughs...MTV...coughs). Hopefully she has a single out for B10 to perform at the 2018 or 2019 PCAs. Hopefully she has a lead single performed at the BBMAs and a later single performed at a place like the PCAs. Well she had a show that night. But as for why she couldn't of pre-taped something from the Axis... your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that after the extremely negative fan reaction the last time they did that, they weren't about to try it again. As tone deaf as her team can be, they do seem to be trying to give fans what they want this era, with the Make Me video fiasco being the one glaring exception. But, I bet there will be no further drama with videos after that particular reaction. I don't think Britney will allow it, even if it means self-financing ala Slumber Party. |
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Post by upsidedown on Jan 21, 2017 7:56:53 GMT -5
Well she had a show that night. But as for why she couldn't of pre-taped something from the Axis... your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that after the extremely negative fan reaction the last time they did that, they weren't about to try it again. As tone deaf as her team can be, they do seem to be trying to give fans what they want this era, with the Make Me video fiasco being the one glaring exception. But, I bet there will be no further drama with videos after that particular reaction. I don't think Britney will allow it, even if it means self-financing ala Slumber Party. I keep hearing about this self-financing business.. is there a source for this? If so, that's sad she had to self-fund the second damn video of the era... although, there were reports that the original Make Me video cost a lot and I guess that was a big loss for RCA. I still think they should've done something though... I think if the camera angles were right and everything, people would be happy with a performance from the Axis, at least knowing that she only did it because there was no way she could actually attend.. versus 2015 BBMAs where they did it only b/c I guess she didn't want to do it live. But even then... she won FOUR awards, and they couldn't even have her tape a pre-recorded acceptance speech? It sucks b/c she won 4 damn awards, it would've been so cool if she could've been there. It would've been *her* night. Kinda sucks that those 4 awards were wasted and then I bet next year she'll be able to attend but she'll win like 0 lol. |
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Post by divasummer on Jan 23, 2017 7:47:28 GMT -5
I feel like the "Peoples Choice Awards" WOULD have been a good place to show a GODD pre recorded performance.
It's not all about the music and there's not that may singers there so it wouldn't have felt weird if she performed from AXIS.
I don't think the musical performances are what people are watching it for.
Her team is pretty stupid not to push for it.
Perhaps they did and the "Peoples Choice Awards" wasn't interested???
She won 4 awards????? loL.
It looks like they were trying to get her there. LoL
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AAAAAAH THE HD QUALITY IS GLORIOUS And rewatching Stronger reminded me of my earliest childhood dreams I've always wanted to be that chair, so damn jealous of it to this day. |
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Post by think pink. on Jan 28, 2017 19:23:20 GMT -5
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 30, 2017 12:42:22 GMT -5
She is off February 5 to March 21 from Vegas. Perfect timing to choose the third single and record a video and make sure it's added into the show. But since when does her team do smart or logical things?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 17:26:28 GMT -5
A new leaked song from back in 2003 has been found
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 2, 2017 20:41:29 GMT -5
She is off February 5 to March 21 from Vegas. Perfect timing to choose the third single and record a video and make sure it's added into the show. But since when does her team do smart or logical things? Yeah... either use the time to film a 3rd video or get her ass back in the studio during that time to cook something up. |
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Post by Eqbk on Feb 3, 2017 19:06:34 GMT -5
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