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Post by Koochie on Aug 12, 2021 21:33:07 GMT -5
Sorry, I know you all mean well. But let’s be easy with the word “crazy” when she has documented mental health issues. Wherever I can help fight the stigma, I will speak up. Even it means directing people to more sensitive language. If they’re documented properly, they aren’t public, so any speculation on her mental health is just that. All we know is that she was initially diagnosed with “early onset dementia,” which Vivian Thoreen inadvertently admitted last hearing was bullshit when she said there have been no conclusive findings on Britney’s capacity. I think it’s important when discussing mental health that we don’t make assumptions, because frankly it’s none of our business unless she makes it our business. I do agree however that, regardless of who we’re discussing (Britney or otherwise), “crazy vibes” is tacky.
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Post by back2blk on Aug 12, 2021 21:37:30 GMT -5
Sorry, I know you all mean well. But let’s be easy with the word “crazy” when she has documented mental health issues. Wherever I can help fight the stigma, I will speak up. Even it means directing people to more sensitive language. If they’re documented properly, they aren’t public, so any speculation on her mental health is just that. All we know is that she was initially diagnosed with “early onset dementia,” which Vivian Thoreen inadvertently admitted last hearing was bulls**t when she said there have been no conclusive findings on Britney’s capacity. I think it’s important when discussing mental health that we don’t make assumptions, because frankly it’s none of our business unless she makes it our business. I do agree however that, regardless of who we’re discussing (Britney or otherwise), “crazy vibes” is tacky. Well she was also in an institution; we don’t know for what. But her being in there means there’s a documented mental health issue she was addressing. Mental health means a myriad of things not having to do with disorders or diseases.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 12, 2021 21:46:16 GMT -5
If they’re documented properly, they aren’t public, so any speculation on her mental health is just that. All we know is that she was initially diagnosed with “early onset dementia,” which Vivian Thoreen inadvertently admitted last hearing was bulls**t when she said there have been no conclusive findings on Britney’s capacity. I think it’s important when discussing mental health that we don’t make assumptions, because frankly it’s none of our business unless she makes it our business. I do agree however that, regardless of who we’re discussing (Britney or otherwise), “crazy vibes” is tacky. Well she was also in an institution; we don’t know for what. But her being in there means there’s a documented mental health issue she was addressing. Mental health means a myriad of things not having to do with disorders or diseases. Correct, but you can be placed on an institutional hold for incidental matters and in 2019 she was forced into one against her will. The public is lacking a lot of context when it comes to the 2008 holds, and there are reports ranging from Lutfi setting her up to her mother spiking her drink to postpartum depression. To be clear though, I’m not saying whether she has mental health issues or not (realistically you could argue everyone does to an extent, lol), I’m just saying it’s not anyone’s place to speculate on it until she speaks on it herself.
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Post by back2blk on Aug 12, 2021 21:55:11 GMT -5
Well she was also in an institution; we don’t know for what. But her being in there means there’s a documented mental health issue she was addressing. Mental health means a myriad of things not having to do with disorders or diseases. Correct, but you can be placed on an institutional hold for incidental matters and in 2019 she was forced into one against her will. The public is lacking a lot of context when it comes to the 2008 holds, and there are reports ranging from Lutfi setting her up to her mother spiking her drink to postpartum depression. To be clear though, I’m not saying whether she has mental health issues or not (realistically you could argue everyone does to an extent, lol), I’m just saying it’s not anyone’s place to speculate on it until she speaks on it herself. Totally agreed. And by documented, I don’t mean she has any diagnosis. Just that mental health information is in her file. It’s like they say, whether she has issues or not, what we say won’t go to her ears, but others who read this board can read our words.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Aug 12, 2021 22:16:18 GMT -5
It's Free Britney, bitch!
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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 12, 2021 22:34:21 GMT -5
I'm so happy for Britney right now. I don't care if she's going to be back to the music industry or not, but I'm glad that she's finally free from this conservatorship. It was about time for this to happen.
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 13, 2021 1:15:00 GMT -5
Her father didn't exactly agree to step down. He is supposedly open to stepping down if certain conditions are met. For example, he wants the matter of his legal fees that are currently being contested, to be resolved before he entertains the idea of stepping down. By resolved, what he likely means is that he wants Britney's estate to pay for it so he'll be off the hook for them. He's essentially trying to negotiate (more like manipulate) matters by using him potentially leaving as a bargaining chip.
That said, him stating in court filings that he would be open to stepping down is a victory. Most people could not have imagined that he would shift gears and resort to this sort of tactic, given how adamant he's been about staying on. Rosengart definitely has them rattled in a way Ingham never did.
The statements in the court filings themselves are just so gross. It's full of manipulation, gaslighting, and just straight-up contradictions. There were some very low blows in those statements. Hopefully Rosengart will take him to task for all the mudslinging.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 13, 2021 5:30:08 GMT -5
I love Britney and she deserves her freedom but I get the feeling she still needs guidance. She's got that crazy vibe goin on. this is disgusting
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 13, 2021 5:30:37 GMT -5
Her father didn't exactly agree to step down. He is supposedly open to stepping down if certain conditions are met. For example, he wants the matter of his legal fees that are currently being contested, to be resolved before he entertains the idea of stepping down. By resolved, what he likely means is that he wants Britney's estate to pay for it so he'll be off the hook for them. He's essentially trying to negotiate (more like manipulate) matters by using him potentially leaving as a bargaining chip. That said, him stating in court filings that he would be open to stepping down is a victory. Most people could not have imagined that he would shift gears and resort to this sort of tactic, given how adamant he's been about staying on. Rosengart definitely has them rattled in a way Ingham never did. The statements in the court filings themselves are just so gross. It's full of manipulation, gaslighting, and just straight-up contradictions. There were some very low blows in those statements. Hopefully Rosengart will take him to task for all the mudslinging. Yeah, it's very clear Jamie and co. now know they're going down so they're trying to get as much $$$ as possible on the way out.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 13, 2021 5:35:24 GMT -5
Rosengart’s statement basically said “good, but we’ll see you in court lol” so I don’t think he’s letting Jamie off the hook here.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 13, 2021 6:20:20 GMT -5
Rosengart’s statement basically said “good, but we’ll see you in court lol” so I don’t think he’s letting Jamie off the hook here. Yep. I just hope Jamie and Vivian being greedy MFers doesn't delay Jamie "willing" to step down. Now it's kind of unclear if they can come to some type of agreement before the September court date. It's just so mind blowing that Jamie hasn't made enough money that he would do this on the way out, and of course Vivian too. They really threw Britney (and Lynne here) under the bus to get as much dough on the way out before the cards all fall.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 13, 2021 6:21:12 GMT -5
Her father didn't exactly agree to step down. He is supposedly open to stepping down if certain conditions are met. For example, he wants the matter of his legal fees that are currently being contested, to be resolved before he entertains the idea of stepping down. By resolved, what he likely means is that he wants Britney's estate to pay for it so he'll be off the hook for them. He's essentially trying to negotiate (more like manipulate) matters by using him potentially leaving as a bargaining chip. That said, him stating in court filings that he would be open to stepping down is a victory. Most people could not have imagined that he would shift gears and resort to this sort of tactic, given how adamant he's been about staying on. Rosengart definitely has them rattled in a way Ingham never did. The statements in the court filings themselves are just so gross. It's full of manipulation, gaslighting, and just straight-up contradictions. There were some very low blows in those statements. Hopefully Rosengart will take him to task for all the mudslinging. It's pretty crazy to think that if Britney never spoke up in court in June, none of this would've happened and she likely would've been stuck with Sam Ingrate forever
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Post by Koochie on Aug 13, 2021 6:29:25 GMT -5
Rosengart’s statement basically said “good, but we’ll see you in court lol” so I don’t think he’s letting Jamie off the hook here. Yep. I just hope Jamie and Vivian being greedy MFers doesn't delay Jamie "willing" to step down. Now it's kind of unclear if they can come to some type of agreement before the September court date. It's just so mind blowing that Jamie hasn't made enough money that he would do this on the way out, and of course Vivian too. They really threw Britney (and Lynne here) under the bus to get as much dough on the way out before the cards all fall. while I think part of it is that he wants his legal fees covered, he could still technically approve this as he’s still in control of her money. That’s a formality. What I think he really wants to negotiate is potential criminal charges, i.e. “I’ll step down but only if you don’t take this any further.”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 15:25:57 GMT -5
I love Britney and she deserves her freedom but I get the feeling she still needs guidance. She's got that crazy vibe goin on. Uhm what if I diagnosed you online without ever having conversations with you and casually said you might be the one who needs the conservatorship not thee Britney Spears. Would you consider that rude??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 19:47:34 GMT -5
Like the true abusive asshole he just threw his ex wife under the bus and claims she is the problem and the one taking advantage of Britney. What a piece of work he is. youtu.be/IVZWrGHUeYc
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Post by rihannabiggestfan on Aug 14, 2021 0:34:11 GMT -5
Since we're giving diagnoses here (nnn), I would opine that Jamie Lynn needs a conservatorship much more than Britney does (but her broke ass isn't rich like Britney so)
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Post by Push The Button on Aug 14, 2021 7:28:45 GMT -5
Since we're giving diagnoses here (nnn), I would opine that Jamie Lynn needs a conservatorship much more than Britney does (but her broke ass isn't rich like Britney so) Jamie Lynn is married to a very successful attorney in Hammond. I don’t know why people say she’s broke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 10:45:40 GMT -5
Since we're giving diagnoses here (nnn), I would opine that Jamie Lynn needs a conservatorship much more than Britney does (but her broke ass isn't rich like Britney so) Anytime anyone says her name my eyes glaze over. And now I find out the cat killer, racist and overall deplorable bitch is married to a lawyer and had the nerve to act naive and dumb over her supposed sister's situation
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 12:28:36 GMT -5
I didn't mean to be insensitive... I genuinely do love Britney, and just the thought of the prison she's endured is hard to imagine, especially using her kids as leverage against her. I hope she thrives and no doubt will make a legendary comeback. From here out tho, I hope she is surrounded by people that care for her mental health as much as they do about her bank.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Aug 17, 2021 1:32:56 GMT -5
Titney is back on IG and I live. Love the caption, too! #ProjectRose
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 17, 2021 2:51:02 GMT -5
Not really feeling the Titney post. Once or twice is ok, but too many.. feels a bit strange. I dont know, maybe just me. I love her still.
Maybe because its in low quality iphone4s camera lol. Hopefully she hires a professional photographer so we can get Titsney in HD
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 17, 2021 6:04:17 GMT -5
The caption is the most important thing IMO of the latest post. For all the people who think she's been 'unhinged' for posting these pics, she provides the exact argument of why she feels so liberated to do this.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 17, 2021 14:26:21 GMT -5
As much as people clown on Britney for being a ditz, she does some incredibly smart things sometimes
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 19, 2021 15:40:06 GMT -5
No one will convince me Britney is violent with her employees like come the fuck on.
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Post by Choco on Aug 20, 2021 0:38:47 GMT -5
Her IG is out of control again.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 20, 2021 9:57:41 GMT -5
Her IG is out of control again. at a glance... no? But also her dogs were taken from her by her father which is a known trigger for her (filed in 2008 docs in the early c-ship) that causes her to act out, so even if she was acting erratically that might be why. They were taken to a vet by one of her handlers earlier this month and never brought back. Her dogs are second only to her kids as far as things she cares about. This also happens around the same time as the allegations of assault and Mario Lopez going on PageSix to talk about what wonderful people Jamie and the family are. Yeah, sorry, they're setting her up. Edit: this goes back to Aug. 10th. She tried to report it but Jamie's security detail said she'd "changed her mind." The housekeeper she allegedly assaulted is the one who took her dogs from her and was confronted about it after photos of the dogs were found on her phone. The housekeeper argues the dogs were "neglected," but it was the housekeeper's job to care for the dogs so....
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 20, 2021 10:07:56 GMT -5
Her IG is out of control again. at a glance... no? But also her dogs were taken from her by her father which is a known trigger for her (filed in 2008 docs in the early c-ship) that causes her to act out, so even if she was acting erratically that might be why. They were taken to a vet by one of her handlers earlier this month and never brought back. Her dogs are second only to her kids as far as things she cares about. This also happens around the same time as the allegations of assault and Mario Lopez going on PageSix to talk about what wonderful people Jamie and the family are. Yeah, sorry, they're setting her up. Yep. Something smells very fishy here. Seems like this was a complete set up to get her bad press.
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Post by taylor on Aug 20, 2021 10:51:58 GMT -5
f**k literally everyone involved on the wrong side of this. Jesus H. Christ I want this madness to end. You will never convince me that Britney is 1) violent to anybody or 2) neglectful/abusive to her dogs. This is nothing but a pathetic ploy to get her bad press so that there can be doubt thrown over the hearing to end this nightmare.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 18:34:40 GMT -5
If Britney fixed her fist and beat you down one congrats a legend touched you and secondly you asked for it. She is the sweetest thing ever
If there was an ounce of truth in my head I wouldn't joke about violence but I know this s**t ain't happen and it's a smear campaign that Todd set up (well her daddy)...lies lies and more lies. #fuckyou
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 21, 2021 15:03:38 GMT -5
So apparently the story is that one of the dogs has pretty serious digestive health issues and was being fed food that aggravated them. I also have a dog with some serious issues along those lines and she can go downhill REALLY fast if I am not careful about her care and monitor her medication and food, even with like...my mom trying to give her "treats." I can possibly see Britney, especially if someone else is taking care of most vet visits, maybe feeding bad table scraps that would irritate digestion issues. If so, it seems like clarifying it with her, perhaps by a vet, would be a better choice than just taking the dogs and never bringing them back. Of course, I'm not sure I trust anything coming from any of these people though.
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