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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 10:11:53 GMT -5
I remember back in 87 I loved Tiffany's single "Danny" but it never made it into the Hot 100, and then she smashed with her album and 2 number 1 songs from it.
Then I love Natasha Bedingfield's "Touch" which preceded official single "Strip Me"... too bad none of them did much.
Another example could be Paula Abdul's "Knocked Out", and though it was not that much of a flop, I remember everyone in high school made fun of me for listening to an album of "someone no-one knew and would never have a hit". LOL
Do you have other cases in which you loved a first single or buzz flop before the album had any charting hit?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 13:53:43 GMT -5
It wasn't a total bomb, but 'Me Against the Music' and 'Toxic' came to mind.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Aug 2, 2014 16:17:45 GMT -5
Flop's a strong word, the ones I came up with were mostly underperformers.
Don't Tell Me/My Happy Ending (Avril Lavigne) These Words/Unwritten (Natasha Bedingfield) Russian Roulette/Rude Boy (Rihanna) Dead Flowers/White Liar (Miranda Lambert) It's Like That/We Belong Together (Mariah Carey) Hip to my Heart/If I Die Young (Band Perry) Stupid Hoe/Starships (Nicki Minaj) Homeboy/Drink in my Hand (Eric Church) Sunday Morning in America/I Still Miss You (Keith Anderson) Car Crash/Come on Get Higher (Matt Nathanson) Bourbon in Kentucky/I Hold On (Dierks Bentley) Backseat of a Greyhound Bus/Perfect (Sara Evans) For Your Entertainment/Whataya Want From Me (Adam Lambert) Feel Again & If I Lose Myself/Counting Stars (OneRepublic) Stupid Girls & Who Knew/U+Ur Hand (Pink) Truck Yeah/One of Those Nights (Tim McGraw)
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Post by mkarns on Aug 2, 2014 19:38:40 GMT -5
I thought of Mariah's "It's Like That", but it wasn't really a flop or all that disappointing. It's top 20 placement was better than she 'd done in several years at that point (spring 2005), even though it was soon eclipsed by its monster followup.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 20:53:50 GMT -5
Coldplay's got a bunch of these.
Shiver/Yellow - Parachutes
In My Place/The Scientist & Clocks - A Rush A Of Blood To The Head
Violet Hill/Viva La Vida - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends
X&Y, Mylo Xylo, and Ghost Stories don't apply to this. 3/6 albums though....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 20:56:12 GMT -5
Nicki Minaj's Massive Attack bombed before an unofficial version of Your Love leaked and it started to get airplay and was mastered shortly after, officially released and peaked just outside the top 10 on the hot 100 at #14.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 2, 2014 21:04:30 GMT -5
If a song hit the Top 20, it did not "flop."
LOL.
It's Like That was a hit.
Stupid Girls was a hit.
Stupid Ho flopped. That counts!
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Post by tekkenguy on Aug 2, 2014 21:49:34 GMT -5
Coldplay's got a bunch of these. Shiver/Yellow - Parachutes In My Place/The Scientist & Clocks - A Rush A Of Blood To The Head Violet Hill/Viva La Vida - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends X&Y, Mylo Xylo, and Ghost Stories don't apply to this. 3/6 albums though.... Paradise did overshadow Every Teardrop, didn't it. And Magic will likely be surpassed by A Sky Full of Stars.
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Post by Joe1240 on Aug 3, 2014 0:50:08 GMT -5
Selena Gomez has had a few
Falling Down/Naturally[Kiss & Tell Debut Album] Who Says/Love You Like A Love Song[When The Sun Goes Down Album]
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Post by Flip on Aug 3, 2014 3:34:36 GMT -5
Owl City: Shooting Star flopped and Good Time became a big hit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 4:40:17 GMT -5
Coldplay's got a bunch of these. Shiver/Yellow - Parachutes In My Place/The Scientist & Clocks - A Rush A Of Blood To The Head Violet Hill/Viva La Vida - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends X&Y, Mylo Xylo, and Ghost Stories don't apply to this. 3/6 albums though.... Paradise did overshadow Every Teardrop, didn't it. And Magic will likely be surpassed by A Sky Full of Stars. Right, but the songs didnt flop, they were both both 20 songs.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Aug 3, 2014 12:34:26 GMT -5
Zedd: "Spectrum" flopped but paved the way to his biggest hit ever: "Clarity".
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 4, 2014 20:14:26 GMT -5
The Pointer Sisters' "I Need You" peaked at #48 and was followed by four Top 10 singles from their Breakout album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 20:34:20 GMT -5
GN'R's " It's So Easy" flopped in the UK (as did "Welcome To The Jungle), before the video caught on and basically saved the band's career ![:dead:](http://ruadventures.com/forum/Smileys/animated/smiley_resurrect_grave.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 5:17:39 GMT -5
The Pointer Sisters' "I Need You" peaked at #48 and was followed by four Top 10 singles from their Breakout album. I love "I Need You". I think had it been released between any of the other smashes, we probably would have had five Top 10s... or a better placement. Another song that came to mind is "Tell Him" by Barbra & Celine, whose lackluster airplay run made the label cancel the single release... we know what happened next with MHWGO.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Aug 5, 2014 8:50:50 GMT -5
A better example for Rihanna would be "Hard" charting top 10 on CHR after "Russian Roulette" flopped.
Olly Murs (US Career): "Heart Skips A Beat" flopped and was followed by his first huge US hit, "Troublemaker". Pitbull: "Krazy" completely bombed and was followed by his first charter, "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)". Becky G: "Play It Again" didn't do anything; one year later, she lands a top 20 with "Shower". Conor Maynard: "Can't Say No" didn't chart in the US (in fact, it went horribly unnoticed), "Vegas Girl" became his breakthrough hit here. David Guetta: "When Love Takes Over" bombed, but it paved the way for one of his biggest hits, "Sexy Bitch". Calvin Harris: "Bounce" didn't chart, "Feel So Close" became his breakthrough.
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Post by mkarns on Aug 5, 2014 12:21:52 GMT -5
Stupid Ho flopped. That counts! It wasn't officially released as a single, but in 1999 TLC put out the similarly titled "Silly Ho" to radio as a teaser track from the upcoming "Fanmail". It was soon forgotten as "No Scrubs" and then "Unpretty" smashed. I don't remember if Janet Jackson's "Got til It's Gone" (from "The Velvet Rope") was actually a single, but it got some airplay. But it wasn't a big hit; its followup, "Together Again", was.
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Post by halo19 on Aug 6, 2014 4:20:10 GMT -5
Coldplay's got a bunch of these. Shiver/Yellow - Actually, in the U.S., Yellow came out first and Shiver was the obscure follow-up. People may forget that the initial two singles were electric guitar driven and that a single wasn't even pushed to hot ac. It didn't flop on triple A but that's a niche format. I'd say IMP is arguable - a hot AC push and went top 20 on alternative like the next two singles from the album. Violet Hill/VLV is noteworthy in a rush released follow up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 4:48:53 GMT -5
Monica: "All Eyez On Me" and "Too Hood" flopped, "So Gone" smashed (although technically, they are from different albums, as the "All Eyez On You" album was rebranded into "After The Storm" after the first two singles flopped).
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Post by funguy10 on Aug 6, 2014 8:22:42 GMT -5
Matchbox 20 is the only one I can think of that hasn't been mentioned. Disease flopped but was followed by Unwell which became one of their most successful hits.
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Post by trashynavy on Aug 6, 2014 9:28:49 GMT -5
gwen flopped with what you waiting for then smashed with the next two singles
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Post by Kat5Kind on Aug 6, 2014 11:38:25 GMT -5
The Outsiders/Give Me Back My Hometown (Eric Church) Bourbon In Kentucky/I Hold On (Dierks Bentley)
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Post by when the pawn... on Aug 6, 2014 12:00:40 GMT -5
Not a FLOP, I understand but "Deja Vu" was a big disappointment for Beyonce - shot to top 15 and then dove down the chart. "Ring the Alarm" was a legitimate flop. And then "Irreplaceable" happened.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 6, 2014 14:33:26 GMT -5
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Famous/Psycho (Puddle of Mudd) Mind Your Manners/Sirens (Pearl Jam) My God is the Sun/I Sat By the Ocean (Queens of the Stone Age) Ulysses/No You Girls (Franz Ferdinand)
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Aug 7, 2014 21:59:38 GMT -5
Adam Lambert: "For Your Entertainment" flopped (which was a shame, since it's a good song) and was followed by "Whataya Want From Me", his biggest hit.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Aug 7, 2014 22:14:14 GMT -5
Tamia: "Can't Go For That" (#84)/"Stranger in My House" (#10)
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Post by Juanca on Aug 7, 2014 22:53:42 GMT -5
A historic one: "Everybody" flopped and failed to reach the Hot 100, although at leaf reached #7 in the Bubbling Under chart... months later, follow-up single "Burning Up" didn't even reach the Bubbling Under chart! despite a quite sexxy video. History completely turned around after "Holiday" became the first of an iconic record-shattering run of consecutive top 40 hits for Madonna! The lead single of Oral Fixation Vol. 2 didn't reach the top 40 echelon of the Hot 100 unfortunately :( but soon afterwards, Shakira released the mega-smash Hips Don't Lie ![:d](http://images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif) Sheryl Crow flopped miserably with "Run, Baby, Run"... Second single "Leaving Las Vegas" did a bit better and entered the Hot 100 but didn't make it to the top half of the list. However, "All I Wanna Do" became a smash and the start of a quite successful career! I really liked "Get Out Of This House", a song that was included in the Grammy Nominees album. However, that first single of the album A Few Small Repairs didn't do much. Fortunately, "Sunny Came Home" reached the top 10 as the second single. Ace of Base's "Wheel of Fortune" was their first single worldwide, but it wasn't a fortunate decision ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) it failed to become popular after being pushed twice. Fortunately, "All that she wants" changed AoB's fortune ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif)
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Post by M1tchD on Aug 7, 2014 23:55:47 GMT -5
One Direction (Midnight Memories) - Best Song Ever rose fast and fell faster. Story Of My Life followed and became a multi-format smash with plenty of longevity.
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Post by irice22 on Aug 8, 2014 2:52:55 GMT -5
"We've Got It Goin' On"/"Quit Playin' Games," Backstreet Boys
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 8, 2014 9:15:49 GMT -5
Iggy Azalea Work (Initially Failed to Chart on the Hot 100)> Change Your Life (Failed to Chart on the Hot 100)> Fancy (7 Week Hot 100 #1)
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