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Post by rsmatto on May 22, 2015 11:19:56 GMT -5
It's a real shame really. Mickey appears to be out of energy to go any higher I'm pretty sure next week on Billboard Lady A is gonna re-pass them Cole Swindell while struggling is closing in on her and fast Luke Bryan's gonna debut ahead of her and I think Hunter Hayes new one will debut above her and Sam Hunt is gonna pass her so I think Mickey is done. BB Peak #35 MB Peak #30. Let's hope she can make it up the second time. If so, it's a good start for her. She's got a ton of support at UMG and let's face facts. A ballad like this -- unless from a superstar -- isn't gonna move much in the spring/summer months and on today's radio in general.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 11:24:22 GMT -5
It's a real shame really. Mickey appears to be out of energy to go any higher I'm pretty sure next week on Billboard Lady A is gonna re-pass them Cole Swindell while struggling is closing in on her and fast Luke Bryan's gonna debut ahead of her and I think Hunter Hayes new one will debut above her and Sam Hunt is gonna pass her so I think Mickey is done. BB Peak #35 MB Peak #30. Let's hope she can make it up the second time. If so, it's a good start for her. She's got a ton of support at UMG and let's face facts. A ballad like this -- unless from a superstar -- isn't gonna move much in the spring/summer months and on today's radio in general. I know hopefully she has an upbeat song for the summer. She has such a voice radio needs her.
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Post by sabre14 on May 22, 2015 13:19:03 GMT -5
Capitol hasn't given up promotion on this song yet. Sure Mickey's down 53 spins and 113k in audience today but look around; there's numerous songs that struggled in today's update. Thomas Rhett lost 35 spins himself. LBT, Eric Chruch, Big & Rich and Cole Swindell are just some of the songs that saw a loss of spins today. Luke's new song is certainly a reason why songs in the 30's and 40's have had a tough go at it this week and Hunter's song got some hourly treatment as well on Thursday. Simply put, we need a house cleaning in the worse way possible.
Now I'm not saying Mickey's song will rebound and go on for a top 20 finish or anything, but this song did not take a big enough hit today to be convinced its over. However, I also don't think she can get much higher and this current chart climate isn't helping Mickey or really any newer artist at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 13:33:08 GMT -5
Capitol hasn't given up promotion on this song yet. Sure Mickey's down 53 spins and 113k in audience today but look around; there's numerous songs that struggled in today's update. Thomas Rhett lost 35 spins himself. LBT, Eric Chruch, Big & Rich and Cole Swindell are just some of the songs that saw a loss of spins today. Luke's new song is certainly a reason why songs in the 30's and 40's have had a tough go at it this week and Hunter's song got some hourly treatment as well on Thursday. Simply put, we need a house cleaning in the worse way possible. Now I'm not saying Mickey's song will rebound and go on for a top 20 finish or anything, but this song did not take a big enough hit today to be convinced its over. However, I also don't think she can get much higher and this current chart climate isn't helping Mickey or really any newer artist at the moment. Well she's way too far behind either of her peaks to go up in peak position . She has no shot of topping her peaks unfortunately but I don't foresee a housecleaning soon. I know others struggled but right now she's been the one to have consistent negative updates.
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Post by sabre14 on May 22, 2015 13:43:31 GMT -5
Capitol hasn't given up promotion on this song yet. Sure Mickey's down 53 spins and 113k in audience today but look around; there's numerous songs that struggled in today's update. Thomas Rhett lost 35 spins himself. LBT, Eric Chruch, Big & Rich and Cole Swindell are just some of the songs that saw a loss of spins today. Luke's new song is certainly a reason why songs in the 30's and 40's have had a tough go at it this week and Hunter's song got some hourly treatment as well on Thursday. Simply put, we need a house cleaning in the worse way possible. Now I'm not saying Mickey's song will rebound and go on for a top 20 finish or anything, but this song did not take a big enough hit today to be convinced its over. However, I also don't think she can get much higher and this current chart climate isn't helping Mickey or really any newer artist at the moment. Well she's way too far behind either of her peaks to go up in peak position . She has no shot of topping her peaks unfortunately but I don't foresee a housecleaning soon. I know others struggled but right now she's been the one to have consistent negative updates. Again, I agree "Better Than You Left Me" won't be doing much more at radio but Capitol hasn't pulled the plug on her song yet and matching or surpassing her peak, while unlikely, isn't impossible. As far as the house cleaning goes, at some point the dam busts. It might take a span of a couple weeks but Tim, Eric Palsay, Gloriana, Chase and Reba will all be going recurrent sooner rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 15:52:41 GMT -5
Well she's way too far behind either of her peaks to go up in peak position . She has no shot of topping her peaks unfortunately but I don't foresee a housecleaning soon. I know others struggled but right now she's been the one to have consistent negative updates. Again, I agree "Better Than You Left Me" won't be doing much more at radio but Capitol hasn't pulled the plug on her song yet and matching or surpassing her peak, while unlikely, isn't impossible. As far as the house cleaning goes, at some point the dam busts. It might take a span of a couple weeks but Tim, Eric Palsay, Gloriana, Chase and Reba will all be going recurrent sooner rather than later. Aw man I'm still holding into hope Gloriana can make it but that's a dead horse. Same with Eric and Tim I just want Chase gone. I don't know I have this feeling Mickey is also in the housecleaning.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 23, 2015 16:14:59 GMT -5
I still think with the adds this achieved out of the gate, it shouldn't be struggling this way. If it had been a new male who'd pulled the kind of early fanfare, I'm sure that this would've done quite well. This may be a ballad and not the most radio-friendly release, but I don't see why this couldn't at least reach the Top 20 like "What We Ain't Got" or "She Don't Love You," i.e. It's really frustrating that radio was so excited to add her song and then.... not play it. There needs to be more variety again on radio, and this was a perfect song for that.
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Post by rsmatto on May 23, 2015 19:55:38 GMT -5
I still think with the adds this achieved out of the gate, it shouldn't be struggling this way. If it had been a new male who'd pulled the kind of early fanfare, I'm sure that this would've done quite well. This may be a ballad and not the most radio-friendly release, but I don't see why this couldn't at least reach the Top 20 like "What We Ain't Got" or "She Don't Love You," i.e. It's really frustrating that radio was so excited to add her song and then.... not play it. There needs to be more variety again on radio, and this was a perfect song for that. Those guys aren't new though. This song's problem is it's a debut that's a ballad more than it being a female song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 23, 2015 20:24:15 GMT -5
I still think with the adds this achieved out of the gate, it shouldn't be struggling this way. If it had been a new male who'd pulled the kind of early fanfare, I'm sure that this would've done quite well. This may be a ballad and not the most radio-friendly release, but I don't see why this couldn't at least reach the Top 20 like "What We Ain't Got" or "She Don't Love You," i.e. It's really frustrating that radio was so excited to add her song and then.... not play it. There needs to be more variety again on radio, and this was a perfect song for that. Those guys aren't new though. This song's problem is it's a debut that's a ballad more than it being a female song. I'll give you Jake Owen, but Eric Paslay is pretty damn new. It may not be his debut single, but I guarantee that if "She Don't Love You" had been released as the third single to any equally new female artist, it would've been lucky to scrape the Top 40. This is absolutely struggling because she's a female artist, and it being a ballad is only another strike against it. But radio was clamoring for her before and when this first went for adds, a lot of them were quickly on board, similar to what we saw with Kacey Musgraves' debut, so it annoys me to see the fanfare not following through.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 20:34:43 GMT -5
Those guys aren't new though. This song's problem is it's a debut that's a ballad more than it being a female song. I'll give you Jake Owen, but Eric Paslay is pretty damn new. It may not be his debut single, but I guarantee that if "She Don't Love You" had been released as the third single to any equally new female artist, it would've been lucky to scrape the Top 40. This is absolutely struggling because she's a female artist, and it being a ballad is only another strike against it. But radio was clamoring for her before and when this first went for adds, a lot of them were quickly on board, similar to what we saw with Kacey Musgraves' debut, so it annoys me to see the fanfare not following through. I think she rather just got buried by all the new releases. First ZBB (Homegrown) Tim Brad Carrie Maddie & Tae Blake Shelton Frankie Ballard FGL Luke Bryan's new one heck I think Hunter Hayes will debut ahead. Plus you have the OTV with Michael Ray Chris Janson. The first group has more momentum. Where as the second group well OTV is basically Payola enough said. Radio kept getting all these new releases and they have to play the more popular artists hence Eric and Jake both doing really well with both their songs. Mickey hasn't kept up simple as that.
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Post by sabre14 on May 23, 2015 20:55:22 GMT -5
Those guys aren't new though. This song's problem is it's a debut that's a ballad more than it being a female song. I'll give you Jake Owen, but Eric Paslay is pretty damn new. It may not be his debut single, but I guarantee that if "She Don't Love You" had been released as the third single to any equally new female artist, it would've been lucky to scrape the Top 40. This is absolutely struggling because she's a female artist, and it being a ballad is only another strike against it. But radio was clamoring for her before and when this first went for adds, a lot of them were quickly on board, similar to what we saw with Kacey Musgraves' debut, so it annoys me to see the fanfare not following through. Country radio really bought into Eric hook, line and sinker after "Friday Night" broke out. I agree about "She Don't Love You" struggling more if it were in the hands of a newer female artist though. The problem is that just because Mickey got 79 first week adds, doesn't mean all of those stations will greatly contribute to her chart endeavors. Most stations have "Better Than You Left Me" in lower rotation. Plus the simple fact that this kind of song tends to get zoned out by the average listener, though it's sad that's a reality in today's radio. Mickey would also be helped more by daytime spins from the spin leaders, though that's pretty common for newer artists or debut singles in terms of allocated spins for time of day. Other than Westwood One, the two stations that are really helping this song out right now is KFRG in Riverside (64 spins over the past week, which is by far the leader for "Better Than You Left Me" and KSCS in Dallas which has accumulated for 440k of Mickey's audience).
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Post by ant on May 26, 2015 11:04:08 GMT -5
Anyone listen to her EP that came out today? 4 songs, including "Better Than You Left Me". One of the tracks, "Pretty Little Mustang" was on her "Unbreakable" EP but I don't know if this one is re-recorded or any different...
I love "Why Baby Why". "Somebody Else Will" is just meh.
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Post by bigfan101 on May 26, 2015 11:55:38 GMT -5
Anyone listen to her EP that came out today? 4 songs, including "Better Than You Left Me". One of the tracks, "Pretty Little Mustang" was on her "Unbreakable" EP but I don't know if this one is re-recorded or any different... I love "Why Baby Why". "Somebody Else Will" is just meh. First EP was acoustic, this is full band.
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Post by rsmatto on May 26, 2015 12:12:58 GMT -5
Anyone listen to her EP that came out today? 4 songs, including "Better Than You Left Me". One of the tracks, "Pretty Little Mustang" was on her "Unbreakable" EP but I don't know if this one is re-recorded or any different... I love "Why Baby Why". "Somebody Else Will" is just meh. The first EP's "Mustang" was acoustic. This new EP's version is very produced. Many fans who heard that will prefer the acoustic version (especially if they prefer hearing things like banjo, dobro and fiddles more in the mix)
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Post by ant on May 27, 2015 14:03:39 GMT -5
I can't wait to listen to this when I get home, but I figured some of you guys would enjoy it as well:
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2015 23:42:08 GMT -5
Not surprised, but her new self-titled EP is fantastic. "Why Baby Why" may be even more incredible than the debut single, but at the very least the two tracks are right up there together. Fantastic vocals, beautiful production -- just another truly great country heartbreak ballad. "Pretty Little Mustang" sounds great with the full band treatment -- I liked the original, but the song was missing an extra 'punch' that it really needed from more production. The one song I'm not totally enamored with is "Somebody Else Will," but it's still a very solid track.
I hope "Better Than You Left Me" can keep hanging in there and work its way slowly up the chart so the full album can (hopefully) come out later this year. Her debut single isn't moving up nearly as fast as I had wanted after the record-breaking start it had, but with country radio these days, it's perfectly normal for songs to have painstakingly-long chart climbs, so I've got my fingers crossed this can stick it out through the summer months and last into the fall.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 4, 2015 6:13:39 GMT -5
Back in the top 30 on MB:
33 30 MICKEY GUYTON Better Than You Left Me 1750 1588 162 9.885
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Post by kirkw on Jun 4, 2015 8:35:45 GMT -5
Just one person's opinion, but this is as strong a record by a country female I've heard in many years. This girl has what it takes to become a big star. Definitely a career to keep a close watch on these next few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 9:43:03 GMT -5
Back in the top 30 on MB: 33 30 MICKEY GUYTON Better Than You Left Me 1750 1588 162 9.885 That's great. She was in it for another time I forgot when? If she can hold off the oncoming Cole Swindell and Old Dominion then she should even go up another spot #29. Due to Tyler Farr going recurrent. Mickey isn't gonna last much longer. I think her label should shoot for a MB and BB Top 30 Finish just like Reba is probably gonna get it.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 4, 2015 12:59:10 GMT -5
Back in the top 30 on MB: 33 30 MICKEY GUYTON Better Than You Left Me 1750 1588 162 9.885 That's great. She was in it for another time I forgot when? If she can hold off the oncoming Cole Swindell and Old Dominion then she should even go up another spot #29. Due to Tyler Farr going recurrent. Mickey isn't gonna last much longer. I think her label should shoot for a MB and BB Top 30 Finish just like Reba is probably gonna get it. Cole and Old Dominion are way too behind to catch Mickey this week, as she's all but guaranteed to be #29 on MB as nobody behind her has been anywhere close to a threat and I certainly don't see her catching Sam or Chase by week's end. Mickey has actually has a good week in terms of increased spins (even though she's lost 340k in audience) as "Better Than You Left Me" is up 100 spins since Sunday. KSCS in Dallas to the rescue again as they have doubled Mickey's spins and have accounted for 900k of her audience. But 15 the 20 spins leaders have saw an increase in "Better Than You Left Me's" spins over the past seven days, and the 5 that didn't, only saw a combined 7 spin decrease. I don't expect this to do too much beyond what it has accomplished but the signs are certainly there to have this stay afloat for a couple more weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 4:59:40 GMT -5
Mickey is down more than 1 million in audience in the last 2 days, but it's all because of Westwood One. They've slashed her airplay by 12 spins this week. If you factor that out, though, she's basically where she started the week at -- which means she'll probably stay pretty steady audience-wise on Billboard.
However, even ignoring Westwood One, it hasn't been a very good week for Mickey, as her 7-day bullet is -2.
I think Mickey would have a chance to really break through if she gave radio a song that they'd play. Unfortunately, I don't think this is it. I was initially optimistic, but I think the reason this song got so many adds wasn't really because of the song itself, but because radio recognizes her talent. Basically this song just hasn't researched very well, most likely because it's an actual country song, and because it's by a woman.
I think that this will probably get pulled pretty soon in favor of another single, but I think a track that's a little more up radio's alley would still get a lot of adds right out of the gate, AND would likely become a hit in the end (again, because radio likes Mickey and they recognize her talent...it's just that this song doesn't fit within the current parameters of what radio is willing to play).
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Post by ant on Jun 6, 2015 9:23:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I love this song and was really hoping radio would break their trend and let it into the Top 10 at least, but it's not looking like that's gonna happen. She probably should've released something more radio-friendly as her first single, although she's gotten tons of praise for this song so maybe it wasn't such a bad choice after all.
"Somebody Else Will" from her EP has been growing on me lately, but I think "Pretty Little Mustang" is probably more up radio's alley. "Why Baby Why" is fantastic, but I can't see it perform any better than "Better Than You Left Me". Unless her label releases a single that isn't on the EP (but will be on her album) next...
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 6, 2015 12:13:37 GMT -5
Mickey is down more than 1 million in audience in the last 2 days, but it's all because of Westwood One. They've slashed her airplay by 12 spins this week. If you factor that out, though, she's basically where she started the week at -- which means she'll probably stay pretty steady audience-wise on Billboard. However, even ignoring Westwood One, it hasn't been a very good week for Mickey, as her 7-day bullet is -2. I think Mickey would have a chance to really break through if she gave radio a song that they'd play. Unfortunately, I don't think this is it. I was initially optimistic, but I think the reason this song got so many adds wasn't really because of the song itself, but because radio recognizes her talent. Basically this song just hasn't researched very well, most likely because it's an actual country song, and because it's by a woman. I think that this will probably get pulled pretty soon in favor of another single, but I think a track that's a little more up radio's alley would still get a lot of adds right out of the gate, AND would likely become a hit in the end (again, because radio likes Mickey and they recognize her talent...it's just that this song doesn't fit within the current parameters of what radio is willing to play). My thoughts exactly. "Better Than You Left Me" is not really officially "finished" yet and Capitol hasn't pulled it, yet, but the end is near. Mickey's losses from Westwood One are obvious if you just look at her numbers over the past six days (down nearly 1.4 million in audience but up actually up 21 spins, lol). This song stalled because of the kind of song it is, and that's basically it. "Better Than You Left Me" is the opposite of every aspect that country radio is catering these days. It's a straight up ballad. It's a straight up country song with toned down production, and it's by a new female artist - a recipe for disaster. Like jhomes87 said though, radio knows Mickey's talented and are definitely willing to support her but "Better Than You Left Me" does not fit what radio's targeted demo desires to hear currently.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 20:03:39 GMT -5
This one took a big hit today--down 51 spins and down 313k in audience. Its bullet was still positive yesterday, but because of today's loss, the bullet is now -21.
This is important, because Mickey didn't have a bullet on this past Monday's Billboard chart (she could have gone recurrent Monday, but because her loss was only 288k, Billboard gave her a grace week). And since this song is 23 weeks old, it needs to re-bullet on this coming Monday's Billboard chart, or it will automatically go recurrent.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 23, 2015 15:00:24 GMT -5
"Better Than You Left Me" lost 63 spins and 200k in audience today and Mickey has actually lost 820k in total audience the past 16 days on MB (since Westwood One dropped Mickey's song in spins -- 1.7 million in audience lost that week because of it). The only reason "Better Than You Left Me" has maintained a bullet the past couple MB issues is her spin increases, which have been 150 total spins over the past 15 days (213 before the 63 in lost spins today).
This song is definitely at the end of its run and it wouldn't surprise me to see Capitol let this go over the course of the week as its continued to bleed audience and was ever so close to being sent recurrent on Billboard this week, plus this song is now 24 weeks old.
Such a shame that "Better Than You Left Me" couldn't break past the 30's of the chart but this song just didn't test that well, therefore it just never got bumped higher in rotation on many of the 140 plus stations that added Mickey's song. 79 adds is an incredible number of first week adds for a debut single, but if most stations keep the song in light rotation, it can be a misrepresentation of whether the song will be successful and this was clearly an example to not get overly optimistic about a song's hot start. Mickey seems to have gotten the attention of country radio though and hopefully she can break through with her second release that is more 'radio-friendly' than "Better Than You Left Me."
The only times I heard this on the radio was, ironically, Taste Of Country Nights...a show I've expressed a dislike for a time or two, lol.
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Post by gardyfan on Jun 23, 2015 15:35:04 GMT -5
Today was the first time in two months I've heard this on the radio.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 9:02:01 GMT -5
A very nasty update today as Mickey lost a lot of spins and audience. It pains me to say this but I think this is about done. I love the song myself but all it has done has taken chart space and I am ready for a new song from Mickey.
MB Peak #30. BB Peak #35. Oh well.
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Post by kirkw on Jun 29, 2015 9:19:47 GMT -5
In my opinion, this is among the strongest sounding country music singles of this generation. For this not to perform better than it has is shocking to me. I heard this yesterday afternoon on the radio, and for me, and it just stands out above anything that's on the air right now. This is a record that will sound good 20 years from now. It's as classic material as I've ever heard. Obviously radio programmers and younger targeted audiences disagree which is sad. I must be getting too old and out of touch I guess.
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Post by Libra on Jun 29, 2015 23:17:56 GMT -5
I'm curious as to why this was allowed to stay on Billboard tonight. If two weeks ago was, effectively, a grace week, then what's this? A second one?
Granted, her loss was effectively half of what it was two weeks ago, and she's currently sitting at her peak position...but still.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 23:35:01 GMT -5
I'm curious as to why this was allowed to stay on Billboard tonight. If two weeks ago was, effectively, a grace week, then what's this? A second one? Granted, her loss was effectively half of what it was two weeks ago, and she's currently sitting at her peak position...but still. Yes, this is a 2nd grace week. A song can get as many grace weeks as it likes, so long as they aren't consecutive. So, because Mickey re-bulleted last week, she was eligible for another grace week tonight. This means that, once again, she needs to re-bullet next week or she'll be sent recurrent. That's how Billboard has always handled grace weeks for the country chart. They could have sent this song recurrent tonight if they wanted to, but a loss of 0.141 million in audience is hardly big enough to send a song recurrent. And since Mickey bulleted last week she was once again eligible for a grace week tonight. Also, raylatch98, the main reason that Mickey had such an ugly Mediabase update today is because "Better Than You Left Me" dropped out of the Mediabase top 30 two Sundays ago, which means that she lost her countdown spins from Lon Helton's CC-USA yesterday. So no, today's update doesn't mean that this one is done. Obviously I don't expect it to do anything other than to float around in the 30's for another week or maybe a little longer; I'm just saying that it's not quite done yet. One other thing to point out--this song has been added by 148 of the 154 stations on the Medibase panel. Thomas Rhett is only on 140 stations so far, Brett Eldredge is on 141, and Chris Janson on 132, but they're all top 20 with 3 times the airplay that Mickey has. The problem for Mickey is that BTYLM isn't researching well (I'm not surprised that the bro audience is rating it so poorly, given that it's a traditional-sounding ballad from a female), therefore it's stuck in extremely light rotation at most stations, and therefore it's not selling well. Radio likes her and they want to play her (the adds and a lot of comments from PD's prove this), but this just isn't the right song, unfortunately.
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