2010s charts, All-time charts, and others. [UNOFFICIAL]

[Deleted]

Maybe for next decade that could be a chart with real points just for fun.

[thegreatdivine]

rockgolf you wanna get in on this?

Billboard gave out the last Artist of the Decade honor in early December 2009.

Jul 3, 2019 1:53:14 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

tanooki I was thinking of starting a thread to keep track of all the front-runners for the Artist of the Decade (Drake, Adele, Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Rihanna). Just random stats like total weeks spent on the Billboard 100/200 this decade. Total weeks spent at #1 and in the top 10 of the Hot 100/Billboard 200 this decade. Album/single units sold so far this decade (only US figures of course). Total number streams pulled this decade (strictly US figures, too). Along with any other figures we might have for any other metrics we believe Billboard might use. The main focus will probably be the Hot 100 and the Billboard 200 considering they're the two oldest and most famous Billboard charts and they were the only two metrics considered when the award was given out in the last decade. 

I want us to gather as many stats as we can get our hands on to make our own predictions on who might win the award. We're in July now and no one seems to be focused on any of that. I feel like the race will be a lot closer for all the front-runners when all the figures are tallied up.

I'd also like it if someone could come up with a formula we could use to calculate chart points for both the Hot 100/Billboard 200 just in case Billboard ends up using chart points instead of raw numbers. If any of these figures are already available, we could get started right away.

[rockgolf]

Jul 3, 2019 8:27:18 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

rockgolf you wanna get in on this?

Billboard gave out the last Artist of the Decade honor in early December 2009.

I've already tweeted to tanooki that I'm happy to help him with his calculations. I only have Hot 100 info, which will only be a part of the total.

Does anyone know how they weigh songs vs albums on this? Is it straight 50/50?

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 3, 2019 9:22:53 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

Jul 3, 2019 8:27:18 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

rockgolf you wanna get in on this?

Billboard gave out the last Artist of the Decade honor in early December 2009.

I've already tweeted to tanooki that I'm happy to help him with his calculations. I only have Hot 100 info, which will only be a part of the total.

Does anyone know how they weigh songs vs albums on this? Is it straight 50/50?

I think so. There's also the part where we really don't know if they'll use chart points or raw numbers in both instances. We also don't know for sure if they'll take into account other details like US streaming figures, US single sales figures, etc.

[Lukas]

Updated on Streaming Songs:

As of right now, I'm up to the end of the 2015 calendar year for the list. Since the chart started on January 26, 2013, that means that I've tracked 42% of the weeks of the Streaming Songs decade-end list.

For those who are wondering how this system will work, I'm using the same multipliers as the Billboard Hot 100, and the points system I'm using is the same as georgetherunner314's system. (I'm not sure if there have been any significant changes made to the top 50 since then, but I'm going to assume no, for now).

Once I go up to July 2, 2016, I will officially be halfway done with the Streaming Songs list, and that's when I might post a list containing the best-performing streaming songs up to that date. That will be done tomorrow if not the day after.

As of right now, the song currently at #40 has 624,111 points. The cutoff for the final list will be more-or-less that number of points (so I'm raising the cutoff from 525-550k to 625k). I might do more cutoff adjustments, but that's my best estimate as of right now.

[Lukas]

Jul 3, 2019 5:17:10 GMT -5 @pete said:

Maybe for next decade that could be a chart with real points just for fun.

I actually think it's possible that Billboard could do the decade-end list with real points.

because why else would the original 90's decade-end list be off from the all-time list

Also, that thread exists: pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/180686/2010s-decade-chart-using-points

Edit: Looking at the thread, there are a TON of amazing songs in the top 90 that aren't even top 100 here. So I-

[rockgolf]

This week's updates on the all-time list including the chart from July 6:

This  Last

Week  Week change Title
00113 00115 +0002 Sicko Mode
00127 00135 +0008 Without Me
00193 00210 +0017 Sunflower
00250 00260 +0010 Happier
00703 00733 +0030 7 Rings
00844 00942 +0098 Wow.
00861 01077 +0216 Old Town Road
01255 01285 +0030 High Hopes
01826 02006 +0180 Sucker
02760 02802 +0042 Shallow
02922 02954 +0032 Eastside
02988 03270 +0282 Bad Guy
03119 03150 +0031 Middle Child
03455 03538 +0083 Dancing With A Stranger
03473 03764 +0291 Talk
03719 03735 +0016 Please Me
03989 04019 +0030 Going Bad
04369 04452 +0083 Sweet But Psycho
04401 04776 +0375 I Don't Care
04411 04442 +0031 Better
04803 04849 +0046 break up with your girlfriend, I'm bored
05351 06081 +0730 Suge
05391 05495 +0104 Me!
07287 07451 +0164 Look Back At It
07580 08016 +0436 If I Can't Have You
08178 08411 +0233 Pure Water
08233 08426 +0193 Speechless
09295 11733 +2438 No Guidance
09422 09747 +0325 Con Calma
09624 10345 +0721 God's Country
09734 10211 +0477 Whiskey Glasses
09788 10190 +0402 Act Up

[tanooki]

Decade-End List for July 13, 2019. Old Town Road skyrockets onto the top 100, and the #100 for this decade (currently Good Feeling) is bigger than the #100 for the 2000s (Forever) by ~5k points! Wow. should be on the chart next week
Week 501/521 (96.2%)

1. Uptown Funk - 1,457,956 (=)
2. Party Rock Anthem - 1,435,904 (=)
3. Shape of You - 1,415,089 (=)
4. Closer - 1,373,992 (=)
5. Girls Like You - 1,262,170 (=)
6. We Found Love - 1,247,996 (=)
7. Somebody That I Used to Know - 1,222,060 (=)
8. Despacito - 1,216,284 (=)
9. Rolling in the Deep - 1,212,507 (=)
10. Call Me Maybe - 1,146,616 (=)

11. Blurred Lines - 1,142,861 (=)
12. Perfect - 1,135,134 (=)
13. All About that Bass - 1,103,822 (=)
14. Royals - 1,093,592 (=)
15. God's Plan - 1,085,646 (=)
16. Moves Like Jagger - 1,081,208 (=)
17. Happy - 1,076,919 (=)
18. Just the Way You Are - 1,075,894 (=)
19. rockstar - 1,057,417 (=)
--ALL-TIME LIST CUTOFF: 1,049,425--
20. See You Again - 1,041,567 (=)

21. Dark Horse - 1,036,387 (=)
22. SICKO MODE - 1,033,471 (+2)
23. Thrift Shop - 1,032,543 (-1)
24. One More Night - 1,031,591 (-1)
25. We Are Young - 1,029,976 (=)
26. That's What I Like - 1,027,539 (=)
27. Without Me - 1,025,669 (+1)
28. Tik Tok - 1,019,922 (-1)
29. The Hills - 993,826 (=)
30. All of Me - 992,466 (=)

31. Shake It Off - 991,518 (=)
32. One Dance - 991,483 (=)
33. Radioactive - 991,244 (=)
34. Sexy and I Know It - 989,474 (=)
35. Someone Like You - 989,122 (=)
36. Counting Stars - 975,478 (=)
37. Sunflower - 967,488 (+2)
38. E.T. - 966,658 (-1)
39. Trap Queen - 942,700 (-1)
40. Love Yourself - 940,784 (=)

41. Firework - 931,919 (=)
42. Give Me Everything - 917,222 (=)
43. Locked Out of Heaven - 913,640 (=)
44. Love the Way You Lie - 905,486 (=)
45. Thinking Out Loud - 904,337 (=)
46. Happier - 901,017 (+1)
47. Sorry - 900,359 (-1)
48. California Gurls - 894,689 (=)
49. Dynamite - 890,753 (=)
50. Hey, Soul Sister - 877,665 (=)

51. Hello - 871,047 (=)
52. Work - 867,280 (=)
53. Grenade - 862,572 (=)
54. Wake Me Up! - 852,615 (=)
55. Don't Let Me Down - 846,664 (=)
56. Havana - 845,242 (=)
57. OMG - 843,592 (=)
58. Lucid Dreams - 837,922 (=)
59. Fancy - 835,405 (=)
60. Can't Feel My Face - 834,121 (=)

61. I Like It - 830,825 (=)
62. Blank Space - 820,400 (=)
63. Cheap Thrills - 816,886 (=)
64. Some Nights - 815,764 (=)
65. Need You Now - 814,738 (=)
66. Stay With Me - 812,399 (=)
67. Can't Hold Us - 810,878 (=)
68. Roar - 778,760 (=)
69. Rude - 777,453 (=)
70. Sugar - 775,034 (=)

71. Payphone - 771,094 (=)
72. Airplanes - 765,592 (=)
73. Better Now - 764,199 (=)
74. Psycho - 757,813 (=)
75. Bodak Yellow - 757,674 (=)
76. Watch Me - 756,700 (=)
77. Can't Stop the Feeling - 756,021 (=)
78. Cheerleader - 755,617 (=)
79. Bad Romance - 755,119 (=)
80. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - 754,780 (=)

81. What Do You Mean - 752,350 (=)
82. Timber - 746,695 (=)
83. Old Town Road - 744,386 (+22)
84. Nice For What - 743,109 (-1)
85. Heathens - 739,733 (-1)
86. Take Me to Church - 738,382 (-1)
87. Meant to Be - 736,945 (-1)
88. Hotline Bling - 736,887 (-1)
89. Set Fire to the Rain - 736,880 (-1)
90. thank u, next - 730,542 (-1)

91. Super Bass - 729,332 (-1)
92. f**k You - 729,011 (-1)
93. 7 rings - 726,173 (+2)
94. Wrecking Ball - 724,009 (-2)
95. Panda - 723,369 (-2)
96. Break Your Heart - 720,662 (-2)
97. Ho Hey - 718,589 (-1)
98. Teenage Dream - 716,723 (-1)
99. Starboy - 716,244 (-1)
100. Good Feeling - 709,286 (-1)

Bubbling Under:
101. Wow. - 704,659 (+3)
136. High Hopes - 607,210 (+1)
168. Sucker - 539,154 (+14)
bad guy - 400,776
Talk - 343,692
I Don’t Care - 251,332
Senorita - 64,133

All-Time List:
110. SICKO MODE (+3)
117. Without Me (+6)
168. Sunflower (+14)
242. Happier (+7)

[spicymapping]

oh my gooood sicko mode i'm having a heart attack please do this

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Jul 9, 2019 10:10:33 GMT -5 spicymapping said:

oh my gooood sicko mode i'm having a heart attack please do this

There's a very small chance for that. It's #44 currently, 4 weeks left with 3,000 points per week. That would be 1,045,000 (all-time list cutoff is 1,049,000) and the fact that Halsey's Without Me is rising MUCH faster is not helping.

[Lukas]

Jul 9, 2019 10:38:43 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Jul 9, 2019 10:10:33 GMT -5 spicymapping said:

oh my gooood sicko mode i'm having a heart attack please do this

There's a very small chance for that. It's #44 currently, 4 weeks left with 3,000 points per week. That would be 1,045,000 (all-time list cutoff is 1,049,000) and the fact that Halsey's Without Me is rising MUCH faster is not helping.

I don't think Sicko Mode will get to 52 weeks but we'll see. It should definitely pass See You Again though.

[Lukas]

So I've decided, as I've stated a few times before in this thread, that I've decided to keep a running decade-end list for the Streaming Songs component chart. This has been done once before by someone else for the Digital Songs chart, and I think it'd be interesting to do decade-end lists for other component charts as well. The formula and multipliers for this chart are the same as the Hot 100.

I'm going to borrow Daniel Collins' format for this so we can distinguish between this chart and the Hot 100 in some way. (Or probably because I like this format a lot better, lol.)

So let's get started, shall we? (Keep in mind that the chart started in 2013, so the song at #100 here has very low points compared to the #100 on the Hot 100 decade-end list). This also means that I'll probably continue tracking this list beyond this decade until the Streaming Songs chart reaches its 10th anniversary. I plan on doing weekly (or monthly) updates for this chart.

STREAMING SONGS CHART 1.26.2013 - 7.13.2019

TW LW Total
1 1 GANGNAM STYLE - 2,290,404 (=)
2 2 UPTOWN FUNK! - 1,604,529 (=)
3 3 WATCH ME - 1,530,796 (=)
4 4 TRAP QUEEN - 1,512,560 (=)
5 5 DESPACITO - 1,453,083 (=)
6 6 CLOSER - 1,371,292 (=)
7 7 PANDA - 1,352,165 (=)
8 8 ALL ABOUT THAT BASS - 1,351,568 (=)
9 9 ROCKSTAR - 1,344,919 (=)
10 10 RADIOACTIVE - 1,280,280 (=)

11 11 DARK HORSE - 1,276,728 (=)
12 12 THRIFT SHOP - 1,273,516 (=)
13 13 WRECKING BALL - 1,230,644 (=)
14 14 THE HILLS - 1,200,181 (=)
15 15 SICKO MODE - 1,146,539 (=)
16 16 FANCY - 1,115,035 (=)
17 17 SHAPE OF YOU - 1,083,535 (=)
18 18 SORRY - 1,062,026 (=)
19 19 HAPPY - 1,059,634 (=)
20 24 SUNFLOWER - 1,055,281 (+4)

21 20 GOD’S PLAN - 1,055,223 (-1)
22 21 SHAKE IT OFF - 1,047,016 (-1)
23 22 WORK - 1,046,834 (-1)
24 23 SEE YOU AGAIN - 1,030,992 (-1)
25 25 WE CAN’T STOP - 1,015,627 (=)
26 26 LUCID DREAMS - 1,014,143 (=)
27 27 ROYALS - 973,375 (=)
28 28 ALL OF ME - 963,221 (=)
29 29 BODAK YELLOW (MONEY MOVES) - 921,178 (=)
30 30 LET IT GO - 913,774 (=)

31 31 THINKING OUT LOUD - 898,824 (=)
32 32 CONGRATULATIONS - 891,826 (=)
33 33 DON’T LET ME DOWN - 875,795 (=)
34 34 BAD AND BOUJEE - 866,378 (=)
35 35 NEEDED ME - 851,352 (=)
36 36 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? - 845,141 (=)
37 37 679 (Fetty Wap and Remy Boyz) - 840,811 (=)
38 38 TIMBER - 840,176 (=)
39 39 HUMBLE - 829,890 (=)
40 40 XO TOUR Llif3 - 828,127 (=)

41 41 CAN’T HOLD US - 823,769 (=)
42 42 HARLEM SHAKE - 821,721 (=)
43 43 HELLO - 819,358 (=)
44 44 HOTLINE BLING - 805,055 (=)
45 45 ROAR - 802,773 (=)
46 46 WITHOUT ME - 797,074 (=)
47 47 HOT BOY - 779,273 (=)
48 48 COUNTING STARS - 777,895 (=)
49 49 BLACK BEATLES - 777,593 (=)
50 50 THAT’S WHAT I LIKE - 775,610 (=)

51 51 CHANDELIER - 774,937 (=)
52 52 BLANK SPACE - 773,285 (=)
53 55 7 RINGS - 772,171 (+2)
54 53 ONE DANCE - 767,781 (-1)
55 54 IN MY FEELINGS - 767,722 (-1)
56 66 OLD TOWN ROAD - 766,412 (+10)
57 56 STARBOY - 756,006 (-1)
58 57 BLURRED LINES - 752,850 (-1)
59 58 BROCCOLI - 750,106 (-1)
60 59 SUGAR - 737,799 (-1)

61 60 HAVANA - 730,310 (-1)
62 61 HEATHENS - 729,912 (-1)
63 62 LOVE YOURSELF - 725,767 (-1)
64 63 GET LUCKY - 723,249 (-1)
65 64 WORK FROM HOME - 718,500 (-1)
66 65 PROBLEM - 716,870 (-1)
67 67 TALK DIRTY - 711,172 (=)
68 68 CAN’T FEEL MY FACE - 708,489 (=)
69 69 PERFECT - 701,286 (=)
70 70 EARNED IT (FIFTY SHADES OF GREY) - 700,477 (=)

71 71 TAKE ME TO CHURCH - 697,930 (=)
72 72 DRIP TOO HARD - 693,680 (=)
73 73 RUDE! - 680,159 (=)
74 74 THANK U, NEXT - 677,791 (=)
75 75 WAKE ME UP! - 672,330 (=)
76 76 SAIL - 670,028 (=)
77 77 SAD! - 669,760 (=)
78 78 I LIKE IT- 663,778 (=)
79 79 TURN DOWN FOR WHAT - 654,988 (=)
80 80 MASK OFF - 651,040 (=)

81 81 BANK ACCOUNT - 648,295 (=)
82 82 PSYCHO - 645,377 (=)
83 83 CHEERLEADER - 643,846 (=)
84 84 NICE FOR WHAT - 611,693 (=)
85 85 COLD WATER - 603,687 (=)
86 89 WOW - 595,546 (+3)
87 86 I’M THE ONE - 595,344 (-1)
88 87 UNFORGETTABLE - 591,906 (-1)
89 88 GIRLS LIKE YOU - 591,269 (-1)
90 90 WHEN I WAS YOUR MAN - 587,744 (=)

91 91 STRESSED OUT - 576,061 (=)
92 92 7 YEARS - 574,538 (=)
93 93 JUJU ON THAT BEAT (TZ ANTHEM) - 574,407 (=)
94 94 GUCCI GANG - 574,254 (=)
95 95 STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM - 572,846 (=)
96 96 iSPY - 559,058 (=)
97 97 POST TO BE - 556,338 (=)
98 98 DRUNK IN LOVE - 552,376 (=)
99 99 23 (Mike WiLL Made-It, Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa, and Juicy J song) - 548,975 (=)
100 100 BANG BANG - 543,631 (=)


112 113 MIDDLE CHILD - 510,698 (+1)
123 124 HAPPIER - 484,758 (+1)
125 134 BAD GUY - 473,200 (+9)
129 130 BELIEVER - 452,802 (+1)
144 145 GOING BAD - 406,207 (+1)
179 187 TALK - 321,100 (+8)
201 211 SUGE - 280,165 (+10)
231 237 BABY SHARK - 217,502 (+6)
238 239 BETTER - 210,973 (+1)

[fhas]

Jul 9, 2019 22:18:55 GMT -5 Lukas said:

STREAMING SONGS CHART 1.26.2013 - 7.13.2019

This is great! Thank you!

I hope BB uses different multipliers for the Streaming Chart because after the changes last year (paid vs. free streams), the turnover rate is much faster.

In 2018, 18 songs reached #1 on the Streaming Songs Chart and that alone should be a reason for 2018/2019 having a 1.2-1.5 multiplier on the decade-end charts.

Look at your ranking, three songs from 2015 in the top four and none from 2018/2019 in the top 10.

2012-2014: 0.9 multiplier (streaming was basically YouTube and programmed streams - the slowest streaming services).
2015-2016: 1.0 multiplier (on-demand becomes huge in the USA - the highest turnover rate for streaming is on Spotify/AM).
2017-2018: 0.9 multiplier (Pandora is added to the Hot 100 - the most popular programmed service - again, programmed streams = slow turnover rate).
2018-2019: 1.2 multiplier (YouTube and the free tiers of Spotify/SoundCloud are downweighted and Amazon becomes a huge service for Christmas/Country/HAC songs).

[tanooki]

How many songs per year on the GOAT list, as of this current Billboard week:

50s - 3
1958 1 - It's All in the Game
1959 2 - Mack the Knife, The Battle of New Orleans

60s - 9
1960 2 - The Twist, A Theme From "A Summer Place"
1961 1 - Tossin' & Turnin'
1962 0
1963 0
1964 1 - I Want to Hold Your Hand
1965 0
1966 1 - I'm a Believer
1967 0
1968 2 - Hey Jude, I Heard It Through the Grapevine
1969 2 - Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In, Sugar Sugar

70s - 15
1970 0
1971 0
1972 0
1973 3 - Let's Get It On, Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree, You're So Vain
1974 0
1975 0
1976 3 - Tonight's the Night (Gonna Be Alright), Silly Love Songs, Play that Funky Music
1977 3 - You Light Up My Life, How Deep Is Your Love, I Just Want to Be Your Everything, 
1978 4 - Le Freak, Night Fever, Shadow Dancing, Stayin' Alive
1979 2 - Hot Stuff, My Sharona

80s - 20
1980 5 - Another One Bites the Dust, Call Me, Lady, (Just Like) Starting Over, Upside Down
1981 3 - Physical, Bette Davis Eyes, Endless Love
1982 5 - Eye of the Tiger, Centerfold, I Love Rock & Roll, Ebony & Ivory, Abracadabra
1983 5 - Every Breath You Take, Flashdance...What a Feeling, Say Say Say, Billie Jean, All Night Long (All Night)
1984 0
1985 1 - Say You Say Me
1986 1 - That's What Friends are For
1987 0
1988 0
1989 0

90s - 22
1990 2 - Because I Love You (The Postman Song), Nothing Compares 2 U
1991 2 - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You, Rush Rush
1992 2 - I Will Always Love You, End of the Road
1993 1 - Whoomp! (There It Is)
1994 3 - I'll Make Love to You, The Sign, I Swear
1995 2 - One Sweet Day, Gangsta's Paradise
1996 2 - Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix), Un-break My Heart, 
1997 3 - How Do I Live, Foolish Games/You Were Meant for Me, Candle in the Wind 1997/Something About the Way You Look Tonight
1998 4 - Too Close, Truly Madly Deeply, The Boy is Mine, You're Still the One
1999 1 - Smooth

00s - 11
2000 0
2001 1 - How You Remind Me
2002 1 - Dilemma
2003 0
2004 1 - Yeah!
2005 3 - We Belong Together, Let Me Love You, Gold Digger
2006 0
2007 2 - No One, Apologize
2008 1 - Low
2009 2 - I Gotta Feeling, Boom Boom Pow

10s - 20
2010 2 - Tik Tok, Just the Way You Are
2011 4 - Party Rock Anthem, We Found Love, Rolling in the Deep, Moves Like Jagger
2012 2 - Somebody That I Used to Know, Call Me Maybe
2013 2 - Blurred Lines, Royals
2014 2 - All About That Bass, Happy
2015 1 - Uptown Funk
2016 1 - Closer
2017 4 - Shape of You, Despacito, Perfect, Rockstar
2018 2 - Girls Like You, God's Plan
2019 0

[fhas]

Jul 10, 2019 16:21:18 GMT -5 tanooki said:

How many songs per year on the GOAT list, as of this current Billboard week:

They should've used 1.05-1.1 for Dec. 5, 1998-Feb. 5, 2005 (after Radio-only song being eligible to chart and before adding Digital Sales to the Hot 100).

[Lukas]

Jul 10, 2019 15:03:30 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jul 9, 2019 22:18:55 GMT -5 Lukas said:

STREAMING SONGS CHART 1.26.2013 - 7.13.2019

This is great! Thank you!

I hope BB uses different multipliers for the Streaming Chart because after the changes last year (paid vs. free streams), the turnover rate is much faster.

In 2018, 18 songs reached #1 on the Streaming Songs Chart and that alone should be a reason for 2018/2019 having a 1.2-1.5 multiplier on the decade-end charts.

Look at your ranking, three songs from 2015 in the top four and none from 2018/2019 in the top 10.

2012-2014: 0.9 multiplier (streaming was basically YouTube and programmed streams - the slowest streaming services).
2015-2016: 1.0 multiplier (on-demand becomes huge in the USA - the highest turnover rate for streaming is on Spotify/AM).
2017-2018: 0.9 multiplier (Pandora is added to the Hot 100 - the most popular programmed service - again, programmed streams = slow turnover rate).
2018-2019: 1.2 multiplier (YouTube and the free tiers of Spotify/SoundCloud are downweighted and Amazon becomes a huge service for Christmas/Country/HAC songs).

Yeah, the multipliers in some ways did seem somehow seem a little off. Like, I thought "rockstar" would definitely be in the top 5, so I was kinda surprised when it wasn't lol. I was using the same multipliers as for the Hot 100, so based off of recent times having a huge multiplier compared to what I have, I guess it makes sense that it's underrepresented. 

Also, thanks for pointing out how the chart was calculated over time - I'll definitely look into it, and it will be helpful in determining how I'll weight in the chart in the future (I'll reveal how I'm weighting the chart, and it should be similar to what you suggested). 


Also, I have a question: If 3 of the songs in the top 4 for this system are from 2015, wouldn't it follow naturally that the multiplier for 2015 will be smaller?

[Lukas]

So I applied the multipliers for the streaming songs list, and the more I consider the fact that Mo Bamba and FEFE end up in the top 90 under this system, the more I think that 1.2 might be too high of a multiplier for the current era. So perhaps 1.1/1.15 would work better for the current era in streaming, especially since the top 10 chart runs still appear to be long.

I feel like there must be a way to accurately calculate a multiplier in a specific era in comparison to other eras.

[fhas]

Jul 10, 2019 17:34:07 GMT -5 Lukas said:

Jul 10, 2019 15:03:30 GMT -5 fhas said:

This is great! Thank you!

I hope BB uses different multipliers for the Streaming Chart because after the changes last year (paid vs. free streams), the turnover rate is much faster.

In 2018, 18 songs reached #1 on the Streaming Songs Chart and that alone should be a reason for 2018/2019 having a 1.2-1.5 multiplier on the decade-end charts.

Look at your ranking, three songs from 2015 in the top four and none from 2018/2019 in the top 10.

2012-2014: 0.9 multiplier (streaming was basically YouTube and programmed streams - the slowest streaming services).
2015-2016: 1.0 multiplier (on-demand becomes huge in the USA - the highest turnover rate for streaming is on Spotify/AM).
2017-2018: 0.9 multiplier (Pandora is added to the Hot 100 - the most popular programmed service - again, programmed streams = slow turnover rate).
2018-2019: 1.2 multiplier (YouTube and the free tiers of Spotify/SoundCloud are downweighted and Amazon becomes a huge service for Christmas/Country/HAC songs).

Yeah, the multipliers in some ways did seem somehow seem a little off. Like, I thought "rockstar" would definitely be in the top 5, so I was kinda surprised when it wasn't lol. I was using the same multipliers as for the Hot 100, so based off of recent times having a huge multiplier compared to what I have, I guess it makes sense that it's underrepresented. 

Also, thanks for pointing out how the chart was calculated over time - I'll definitely look into it, and it will be helpful in determining how I'll weight in the chart in the future (I'll reveal how I'm weighting the chart, and it should be similar to what you suggested). 


Also, I have a question: If 3 of the songs in the top 4 for this system are from 2015, wouldn't it follow naturally that the multiplier for 2015 will be smaller?

That's just what I think they should do for the decade-end charts. Like, sometimes the multipliers used for the Hot 100 decade-end makes no sense and that's BB's fault.

I think they should've increased the multiplier when they added Apple Music.

I know it was in mid-to-late 2015, but I don't know in what month that happened.

2012-2015 (before Apple Music): 0.9 multipier
2015-2017 (after Apple Music / before Pandora): 1.0 multiplier

[tanooki]

The iffy multipliers is why I posted the GOAT by year. It shows that certain eras are way overrepresented (the early 80s, the late 90s) and some are way underrepresented (late 80s, early 70s, 00s).

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^The 2010s will also end overrepresented although as a whole similar to the 1990s with every year having at least one song.

[Lukas]

So I decided to test the multipliers suggested by fhas for the Streaming Songs Decade-End List (who also did a great job explaining how the chart was calculated over time):

1/26/2013 - 8/8/2015: x0.9
8/15/2015 - 2/4/2017: x1.0
2/11/2017 - 7/7/2018: x0.9
7/14/2018 - present: x1.2

Here is the number of songs from each year in the top 100 with this system:
2013: 12
2014: 15
2015: 15
2016: 15
2017: 15
2018: 16
2019 (so far): 12

From the data presented above, it's pretty clear that this new system weights every year pretty fairly, without severely overrepresenting or underrepresenting any year or set of years.

I don't plan on posting a new list for this week, but I will definitely do so next week. While the actual multipliers that will be used by Billboard are still a complete mystery, they should be close to the multipliers given above.

Edit: I had a 2016 song marked as a 2015 song for some reason.

[tanooki]

Jul 10, 2019 16:59:26 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jul 10, 2019 16:21:18 GMT -5 tanooki said:

How many songs per year on the GOAT list, as of this current Billboard week:

They should've used 1.05-1.1 for Dec. 5, 1998-Feb. 5, 2005 (after Radio-only song being eligible to chart and before adding Digital Sales to the Hot 100).

If Billboard went with a 1.25 multiplier for that time period, Smooth would be the #1 song of all time

[rockgolf]

This is a very late update to the all-time top 10,000 based on the Jul 13 chart. It does not include the Jul 20 chart announced in part today.

This  Last

Week  Week change Title
00109 00113 +0004 Sicko Mode
00117 00127 +0010 Without Me
00168 00193 +0025 Sunflower
00244 00250 +0006 Happier
00612 00861 +0249 Old Town Road
00683 00703 +0020 7 Rings
00794 00844 +0050 Wow.
01233 01255 +0022 High Hopes
01620 01826 +0206 Sucker
02695 02988 +0293 Bad Guy
02743 02760 +0017 Shallow
02888 02922 +0034 Eastside
03090 03119 +0029 Middle Child
03194 03473 +0279 Talk
03383 03455 +0072 Dancing With A Stranger
03708 03719 +0011 Please Me
03957 03989 +0032 Going Bad
04046 04401 +0355 I Don't Care
04302 04369 +0067 Sweet But Psycho
04364 04411 +0047 Better
04900 05351 +0451 Suge
05314 05391 +0077 Me!
07136 07580 +0444 If I Can't Have You
07152 07287 +0135 Look Back At It
07763 09295 +1532 No Guidance
07914 08178 +0264 Pure Water
07985 08233 +0248 Speechless
08829 11480 +2651 Truth Hurts
08991 09624 +0633 God's Country
09160 09422 +0262 Con Calma
09306 09734 +0428 Whiskey Glasses
09393 09788 +0395 Act Up
09954 10676 +0722 Pop Out

[Lukas]

Jul 15, 2019 16:24:18 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

This is a very late update to the all-time top 10,000 based on the Jul 13 chart. It does not include the Jul 20 chart announced in part today.

This  Last

Week  Week change Title
00109 00113 +0004 Sicko Mode
00117 00127 +0010 Without Me
00168 00193 +0025 Sunflower
00244 00250 +0006 Happier
00612 00861 +0249 Old Town Road
00683 00703 +0020 7 Rings
00794 00844 +0050 Wow.
01233 01255 +0022 High Hopes
01620 01826 +0206 Sucker
02695 02988 +0293 Bad Guy
02743 02760 +0017 Shallow
02888 02922 +0034 Eastside
03090 03119 +0029 Middle Child
03194 03473 +0279 Talk
03383 03455 +0072 Dancing With A Stranger
03708 03719 +0011 Please Me
03957 03989 +0032 Going Bad
04046 04401 +0355 I Don't Care
04302 04369 +0067 Sweet But Psycho
04364 04411 +0047 Better
04900 05351 +0451 Suge
05314 05391 +0077 Me!
07136 07580 +0444 If I Can't Have You
07152 07287 +0135 Look Back At It
07763 09295 +1532 No Guidance
07914 08178 +0264 Pure Water
07985 08233 +0248 Speechless
08829 11480 +2651 Truth Hurts
08991 09624 +0633 God's Country
09160 09422 +0262 Con Calma
09306 09734 +0428 Whiskey Glasses
09393 09788 +0395 Act Up
09954 10676 +0722 Pop Out

Based off of Tanooki's post Sicko Mode should be 110

[rockgolf]

@lukas Probably only you, tanooki & I would care about this to the slightest,  but I'm gonna try to track that difference. 

[tanooki]

Jul 15, 2019 16:28:18 GMT -5 Lukas said:

Jul 15, 2019 16:24:18 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

This is a very late update to the all-time top 10,000 based on the Jul 13 chart. It does not include the Jul 20 chart announced in part today.

This  Last

Week  Week change Title
00109 00113 +0004 Sicko Mode
00117 00127 +0010 Without Me
00168 00193 +0025 Sunflower
00244 00250 +0006 Happier
00612 00861 +0249 Old Town Road
00683 00703 +0020 7 Rings
00794 00844 +0050 Wow.
01233 01255 +0022 High Hopes
01620 01826 +0206 Sucker
02695 02988 +0293 Bad Guy
02743 02760 +0017 Shallow
02888 02922 +0034 Eastside
03090 03119 +0029 Middle Child
03194 03473 +0279 Talk
03383 03455 +0072 Dancing With A Stranger
03708 03719 +0011 Please Me
03957 03989 +0032 Going Bad
04046 04401 +0355 I Don't Care
04302 04369 +0067 Sweet But Psycho
04364 04411 +0047 Better
04900 05351 +0451 Suge
05314 05391 +0077 Me!
07136 07580 +0444 If I Can't Have You
07152 07287 +0135 Look Back At It
07763 09295 +1532 No Guidance
07914 08178 +0264 Pure Water
07985 08233 +0248 Speechless
08829 11480 +2651 Truth Hurts
08991 09624 +0633 God's Country
09160 09422 +0262 Con Calma
09306 09734 +0428 Whiskey Glasses
09393 09788 +0395 Act Up
09954 10676 +0722 Pop Out

Based off of Tanooki's post Sicko Mode should be 110

my version is adjusted to be 100% with billboard, rockgolf posts the raw formula

[rockgolf]

Jul 15, 2019 21:03:09 GMT -5 tanooki said:

Jul 15, 2019 16:28:18 GMT -5 Lukas said:

Based off of Tanooki's post Sicko Mode should be 110

my version is adjusted to be 100% with billboard, rockgolf posts the raw formula

Not sure what you mean. Are you using the original BB600 and just figuring where new songs fit in based on their current scores? This would explain the difference.

[tanooki]

Jul 16, 2019 9:38:18 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

Jul 15, 2019 21:03:09 GMT -5 tanooki said:

my version is adjusted to be 100% with billboard, rockgolf posts the raw formula

Not sure what you mean. Are you using the original BB600 and just figuring where new songs fit in based on their current scores? This would explain the difference.

I used the BB600 to rank the songs, then whatever songs were off, I gave an additional multiplier to fit it in its correct spot. It gives me an idea how many points each song should have as I keep adjusting the formula

[tanooki]

Decade-end list for July 20, 2019. Wow has entered the top 100 and Without Me is ~3 weeks from making the all time list.
Week 502/521 (96.3%)

1. Uptown Funk - 1,457,956 (=)
2. Party Rock Anthem - 1,435,904 (=)
3. Shape of You - 1,415,089 (=)
4. Closer - 1,373,992 (=)
5. Girls Like You - 1,262,170 (=)
6. We Found Love - 1,247,996 (=)
7. Somebody That I Used to Know - 1,222,060 (=)
8. Despacito - 1,216,284 (=)
9. Rolling in the Deep - 1,212,507 (=)
10. Call Me Maybe - 1,146,616 (=)

11. Blurred Lines - 1,142,861 (=)
12. Perfect - 1,128,193 (=)
13. All About that Bass - 1,103,822 (=)
14. Royals - 1,093,592 (=)
15. God's Plan - 1,085,646 (=)
16. Moves Like Jagger - 1,081,208 (=)
17. Happy - 1,076,919 (=)
18. Just the Way You Are - 1,075,894 (=)
19. rockstar - 1,057,417 (=)
--ALL-TIME LIST CUTOFF: 1,049,425--
20. See You Again - 1,041,567 (=)

21. Dark Horse - 1,036,387 (=)
22. SICKO MODE - 1,036,070 (=)
23. Without Me - 1,032,602 (+4)
24. Thrift Shop - 1,032,543 (-1)
25. One More Night - 1,031,591 (-1)
26. We Are Young - 1,029,976 (-1)
27. That's What I Like - 1,027,539 (-1)
28. Tik Tok - 1,019,922 (-1)
29. The Hills - 993,826 (=)
30. All of Me - 992,466 (=)

31. Shake It Off - 991,518 (=)
32. One Dance - 991,483 (=)
33. Sunflower - 991,350 (+4)
34. Radioactive - 991,244 (-1)
35. Sexy and I Know It - 989,474 (-1)
36. Someone Like You - 989,122 (-1)
37. Counting Stars - 975,478 (-1)
38. E.T. - 966,658 (=)
39. Trap Queen - 942,700 (=)
40. Love Yourself - 940,784 (=)

41. Firework - 931,919 (=)
42. Give Me Everything - 917,222 (=)
43. Locked Out of Heaven - 913,640 (=)
44. Happier - 907,372 (+2)
45. Love the Way You Lie - 905,486 (-1)
46. Thinking Out Loud - 904,337 (-1)
47. Sorry - 900,359 (=)
48. California Gurls - 894,689 (=)
49. Dynamite - 890,753 (=)
50. Hey, Soul Sister - 877,665 (=)

51. Hello - 871,047 (=)
52. Work - 867,280 (=)
53. Grenade - 862,572 (=)
54. Wake Me Up! - 852,615 (=)
55. Don't Let Me Down - 846,664 (=)
56. Havana - 845,242 (=)
57. OMG - 843,592 (=)
58. Lucid Dreams - 837,922 (=)
59. Fancy - 835,405 (=)
60. Can't Feel My Face - 834,121 (=)

61. I Like It - 830,825 (=)
62. Blank Space - 820,400 (=)
63. Cheap Thrills - 816,886 (=)
64. Some Nights - 815,764 (=)
65. Need You Now - 814,738 (=)
66. Stay With Me - 812,399 (=)
67. Can't Hold Us - 810,878 (=)
68. Old Town Road - 796,386 (+15)
69. Roar - 778,760 (-1)
70. Rude - 777,453 (-1)

71. Sugar - 775,034 (-1)
72. Payphone - 771,094 (-1)
73. Airplanes - 765,592 (-1)
74. Better Now - 764,199 (-1)
75. Psycho - 757,813 (-1)
76. Bodak Yellow - 757,674 (-1)
77. Watch Me - 756,700 (-1)
78. Can't Stop the Feeling - 756,021 (-1)
79. Cheerleader - 755,617 (-1)
80. Bad Romance - 755,119 (-1)

81. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - 754,780 (-1)
82. What Do You Mean - 752,350 (-1)
83. Timber - 746,695 (-1)
84. Nice For What - 743,109 (=)
85. Heathens - 739,733 (=)
86. Take Me to Church - 738,382 (=)
87. Meant to Be - 736,945 (=)
88. Hotline Bling - 736,887 (=)
89. Set Fire to the Rain - 736,880 (=)
90. 7 rings - 731,951 (+3)

91. thank u, next - 730,542 (-1)
92. Super Bass - 729,332 (-1)
93. f**k You - 729,011 (-1)
94. Wrecking Ball - 724,009 (=)
95. Panda - 723,369 (=)
96. Break Your Heart - 720,662 (=)
97. Ho Hey - 718,589 (=)
98. Teenage Dream - 716,723 (=)
99. Starboy - 716,244 (=)
100. Wow. - 714,019 (+1)

Bubbling Under:
134. High Hopes - 611,485 (+2)
158. Sucker - 564,374 (+10)
bad guy - 435,442
Talk - 374,892
I Don’t Care - 279,354
Senorita - 93,599
Goodbyes - 32,934

All-Time List:
109. SICKO MODE (+1)
111. Without Me (+7)
146. Sunflower (+22)
232. Happier (+10)

[Lukas]

When the best song that was in the bottom 10 leaves the top 100...............