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Post by leannepearson on Feb 24, 2015 17:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 4, 2015 11:08:41 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 8, 2015 13:08:24 GMT -5
"Fly" lands in the MB top 40 this week, at #40.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Apr 25, 2015 8:37:45 GMT -5
This song just isn't working very well on the charts. I think it is doing what they want it to, i.e. letting the general public know that they have more than just "Girl In A Country Song" - but at what cost?
Now the album is pushed back to almost September.
Do they push this song through what is shaping up to be a very crowded summer full of younger artists with fun summer songs, or move on to a new tempo single in hopes that it will move faster and generate buzz by the time the album drops?
The label did a great job with "Girl", though some could argue that the song was more important than the artist. I certainly don't have a crystal ball but I hope someone at the label does.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 10:32:00 GMT -5
Just when I thought this one was picking up some steam (it jumped 5 spots to #30 on Monday's Billboard, with a bullet of 124), now we get news that the album is pushed back (although this doesn't surprise me, and I think it was actually a good move on the label's part), and suddenly "Fly" drops 59 spins and over 500k in audience this morning. That's a really nasty single-day update, and it almost makes me wonder if the label has pulled the plug on this one.
I agree that this one might have faced a tough road up the charts, but it had gotten to #30 after just 13 weeks on the chart, which is actually pretty good. So for it to potentially get pulled would be really surprising to me, unless the label has a slam dunk uptempo ready to go.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 25, 2015 11:37:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I really think this has honestly been doing fine all things considered, and I agree that while I didn't want to wait longer for the album, moving it back was smart. I do hope that they haven't given up on "Fly," because I still think that it has the potential of peaking well within the Top 20, at least.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 25, 2015 13:17:06 GMT -5
Just when I thought this one was picking up some steam (it jumped 5 spots to #30 on Monday's Billboard, with a bullet of 124), now we get news that the album is pushed back (although this doesn't surprise me, and I think it was actually a good move on the label's part), and suddenly "Fly" drops 59 spins and over 500k in audience this morning. That's a really nasty single-day update, and it almost makes me wonder if the label has pulled the plug on this one. I agree that this one might have faced a tough road up the charts, but it had gotten to #30 after just 13 weeks on the chart, which is actually pretty good. So for it to potentially get pulled would be really surprising to me, unless the label has a slam dunk uptempo ready to go. If they're gonna pull the plug then they obviously have a single that they are fairly confident about waiting in the wings. I'll see what the update is tomorrow but 500k in audience losses is just too big for a song in the 30's. If it's able to at least hold steady, it's going to make the MB top 30 tomorrow evening and with how "relatively" young this song is, I just don't see the logic of pulling this song. Sure it's having a slow go at it but they knew that was going to happen when they chose this as the second single. I need to see the update tomorrow, but that update really took me by surprise as well.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 26, 2015 12:45:31 GMT -5
Well the good news is this song hasn't had the plug pulled on it. The bad news is the gains were minimal today as "Fly" gained back just 75k in total audience and broke even in spins.
It did however crack the MB top 30 this week, so this will see some extra countdown spins next weekend, though it's not a huge help.
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Post by wonderstruck on Apr 30, 2015 21:57:40 GMT -5
If they decide to pull Fly, I hope they choose this as the "new" single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 1, 2015 1:26:31 GMT -5
wonderstruck I think pulling "Fly" would be a big mistake and really hurt their momentum at this point. It's actually been doing pretty good. I don't think anything they could've released instead would be doing much better right now than this is because GIACS was just a special case with it coming out at just the right time to become something of a novelty hit, but I didn't expect them to suddenly become big stars with quick chart climbs. Pushing the album back was probably a smart move, since it'll drop around the time that this should hopefully be getting pretty high on the charts. That "Shut Up and Fish" song sounds great though. I do hope they release another more uptempo song for their next single though, whether it's that one or something else.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 2:06:01 GMT -5
When it takes over a million audience just to chart on Billboard, no label in its right mind is going to pull a new act's second single after it's just cracked the top 30. Dot will surely fight for this as long as they can, but I still doubt they will be able to keep this going much longer and this won't be around by the time the late August release date gets here. It'd probably be best for Dot to push this a long as they can, achieve a peak in at least the 20's, and then release something with more tempo. The album release date may very well be pushed back even later since "Fly" isn't doing so hot, but I'm still confident this duo wouldn't become a one-hit wonder if they'd release a more upbeat song.
Aside from this being a lower tempo song than radio usually likes to play, the Callout numbers are pretty mediocre for this one. There's really no polarizing feedback (about a fifth of listeners surveyed gave back a negative rating), but "Fly" ranks down there with "Trouble" and "I'm to Blame" in terms of overall popularity, so this seems to me like a song that simply isn't attracting a whole lot of interest. Digital sales are okay but not anything to write home about, so to me it makes sense why this one might just be getting lost in the shuffle. Not really a strong enough amount of buzz or passion.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 1, 2015 2:47:02 GMT -5
When it takes over a million audience just to chart on Billboard, no label in its right mind is going to pull a new act's second single after it's just cracked the top 30. Dot will surely fight for this as long as they can, but I still doubt they will be able to keep this going much longer and this won't be around by the time the late August release date gets here. It'd probably be best for Dot to push this a long as they can, achieve a peak in at least the 20's, and then release something with more tempo. The album release date may very well be pushed back even later since "Fly" isn't doing so hot, but I'm still confident this duo wouldn't become a one-hit wonder if they'd release a more upbeat song. Aside from this being a lower tempo song than radio usually likes to play, the Callout numbers are pretty mediocre for this one. There's really no polarizing feedback (about a fifth of listeners surveyed gave back a negative rating), but "Fly" ranks down there with "Trouble" and "I'm to Blame" in terms of overall popularity, so this seems to me like a song that simply isn't attracting a whole lot of interest. Digital sales are okay but not anything to write home about, so to me it makes sense why this one might just be getting lost in the shuffle. Not really a strong enough amount of buzz or passion. Why can't it keep climbing though? For comparison, it's got about the same amount of audience as Dustin Lynch's song that's been out twice as long as "Fly" has, so I'm just not seeing how the end can be so near for this and I feel like all things considered, it's been doing pretty well. It's still a very young song yet and it's not selling too badly so far, either. I can definitely see the label riding this single out until the album release.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 4:06:14 GMT -5
The only problem is, this has been doing worse lately than Dustin Lynch's song has ever done in a single week. "Fly" has made it almost as high as "Hell of a Night" in half the time, yet "Fly" is now struggling big time, where as "Hell of a Night" has just been a really slow climber from day one and continues to inch along at the same pace. (I wouldn't really call Lynch's chart run a steady one, but I wouldn't quite say it's struggling for a newcomer on the country charts.) Also, part of the reason why "Hell of a Night" has taken so long to climb the charts is that "Where It's At" is still getting decent recurrent rotation, while "Girl in a Country Song" has burned way quicker. So while I do think Maddie & Tae can keep climbing a bit longer, it's just hard for me to see this song still on the charts almost four months from now when the seven-day spins bullet on Mediabase is currently -136.
I will say, though, that the section of the charts Maddie & Tae are on right now is kind of quiet. There are a lot of songs that have just been hanging around at the bottom of the chart and not doing much for many weeks, so I think this may benefit "Fly" a little bit as radio will end up having to choose a few of these to bump to higher rotation.
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Post by renee75 on May 1, 2015 10:01:27 GMT -5
I wonder if "Your Side of Town" would have done any better. I loved that one and wished they would have picked it for their single.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 1, 2015 10:07:40 GMT -5
I would love to do a comparison of the airplay chart run of Girl In A Country Song versus Fly. Sabre14 has the MediaBase chart run. Does anyone know the airplay run? Thanks.
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Post by rsmatto on May 1, 2015 11:36:49 GMT -5
Songs like this just don't do well on the charts, hardly anymore. I'd have loved to see them release something like "Sierra" instead of this.
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Post by sabre14 on May 1, 2015 12:19:18 GMT -5
I actually don't mind the decision to release "Fly" second. It's about as opposite as they could have gone after "Girl In A Country Song" and it might pave the way for more music in a similar vein from them in the future. Now, obviously songs like this just don't really do all that well at radio anymore (unless you're Eric Paslay, and you can do no wrong, lol), and I'm sure Dot Records knew that this would would have a hard time at this point in it's chart run, but the fact that Maddie & Tae got 45 adds on impact date is really impressive, especially considering that Brad and Tim went for adds the same day.
Country radio has shown they like Maddie & Tae, and the folks behind the scenes at Dot have done a superb job with them in such a short period of time. I'm personally not overly concerned about their next single. I'm sure it will be upbeat and I'm sure radio will jump aboard. It's disappointing to see "Fly" having struggles, but I don't think it will hurt them as much as people think.
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Post by renee75 on May 1, 2015 13:53:27 GMT -5
It's disappointing to see "Fly" having struggles, but I don't think it will hurt them as much as people think. I really hope you're right! I like them so much.
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Post by dajire4 on May 1, 2015 15:17:20 GMT -5
Coming to this thread it seems Fly was about to drop off the chart. I honestly do not think that will happen in a long time. Maybe I'm being too optimistic
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 2, 2015 8:51:08 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not getting the panic just yet, it's a female song that made the top 30 in under 20 weeks, that just doesn't happen anymore so why do people think this is struggling badly?
I do know it can die at any second, and it's had a few slower weeks but the chart has been congested and yet it still got as high as it has. I'm not worried at all unless Dot panics and pulls it I see this as an easy top 15.
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Post by bigfan101 on May 2, 2015 11:20:37 GMT -5
Assuming Fly got their first count down spins this week? If not, huge mediabase update.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 12:08:35 GMT -5
^It'll collect top 30 countdown spins this weekend (American Country Countdown) and next weekend (Country Countdown USA), but the countdown shows air mostly on Sundays (on Saturdays on a few stations), not on Fridays, meaning the gains today were due to airplay the song picked up yesterday, not any countdown spins. However, this great update is mostly recovery from the really bad update this had last Saturday (lost 59 spins and over half a million audience), which is why bullets and day-to-day updates aren't always perfectly reflective of how well a song is doing.
I don't think this is done, but I still don't expect this end up getting Maddie & Tae's album out. I'm just having a hard time seeing this on the charts by the end of August.
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Post by Marv on May 6, 2015 17:25:18 GMT -5
Reaching #30 after thirteen weeks is a very respectable pace given the ongoing stranglehold which the bro-country stuff has suffocated the charts as well as radio for most of the past two years, sadly with no end in sight.
It really sucks when the really good stuff takes forever to gain traction at the expense of inferior product, and certainly at no time during my 19+ years as a country radio listener has the collective quality of singles by females absolutely trounced the narrow parameters of bro-country mediocrity.
Suffice it to say that this standout tune as well as Mickey Guyton's instant masterpiece are merely the latest victims in an era in which trendiness trumps originality and exhilarating lyrical, vocal, and production excellence, which is what country radio and country music are SUPPOSED to stand for.
I'm not even sure that this impeccable tune will still be with us by the July 4th weekend, and delaying the CD doesn't make any sense, since I have no idea what their mindset or line of reasoning could be, since that June 2nd release date makes a lot more sense while this is still moving up the charts.
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Post by matty005 on May 6, 2015 21:08:59 GMT -5
Reaching #30 after thirteen weeks is a very respectable pace given the ongoing stranglehold which the bro-country stuff has suffocated the charts as well as radio for most of the past two years, sadly with no end in sight. It really sucks when the really good stuff takes forever to gain traction at the expense of inferior product, and certainly at no time during my 19+ years as a country radio listener has the collective quality of singles by females absolutely trounced the narrow parameters of bro-country mediocrity. Suffice it to say that this standout tune as well as Mickey Guyton's instant masterpiece are merely the latest victims in an era in which trendiness trumps originality and exhilarating lyrical, vocal, and production excellence, which is what country radio and country music are SUPPOSED to stand for. I'm not even sure that this impeccable tune will still be with us by the July 4th weekend, and delaying the CD doesn't make any sense, since I have no idea what their mindset or line of reasoning could be, since that June 2nd release date makes a lot more sense while this is still moving up the charts. In this week's top 30, I think MAYBE 4 songs that could be considered "bro." Bro is for sure not impacting the charts it was just a year ago.
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Post by Marv on May 12, 2015 10:06:34 GMT -5
According to last night's issue of CAW the release date for 'Start Here' was listed as June 2nd, so is that accurate or not?
I really love their very refreshing and pure sounding music. I just wish that a lot more of today's country sounded as wonderful as their impeccable music does.
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Post by countrygirl918 on May 12, 2015 10:22:35 GMT -5
According to last night's issue of CAW the release date for 'Start Here' was listed as June 2nd, so is that accurate or not? I really love their very refreshing and pure sounding music. I just wish that a lot more of today's country sounded as wonderful as their impeccable music does. It was originally set to release June 2nd, but has been pushed back to August 28th. The new date is reflected on HDD's Upcoming Releases list, as well as on Amazon. Someone apparently also confirmed this with M&T at a meet & greet recently. I'm surprised CAW didn't correct the release date in their issue.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 14, 2015 11:55:57 GMT -5
Fly FINALLY debuts on the digital chart at #48. Anyone have sales figures for it?
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Post by mus1cr0w on May 14, 2015 12:11:48 GMT -5
It is almost agonizing to watch this glacial chart run after "Girl In A Country Song".
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Post by onebuffalo on May 14, 2015 12:17:55 GMT -5
It is almost agonizing to watch this glacial chart run after "Girl In A Country Song". MR I agree. This is what I said in the Girl In A Country Song thread. I should have given Maddie & Tae more time: Finishes #1 at MediaBase with 57 million audience impressions. I'll say it has 49 on the airplay chart. 48, but who's counting? I've definitely noticed that they just want the song to reach #1 and then they move on to the next... I always found it strange. You can thank the slow moving chart for that. Girl In A Country Song took 23 weeks to hit the top. With the next single released, Fly, it will take them to the middle of next year to peak with that one.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 14, 2015 17:08:59 GMT -5
Bro is for sure not impacting the charts it was just a year ago. I would like to think that "Girl in a Country Song" had a hand in decimating bro-country, but will there be an act to deliver the final death blow? I've heard a lot of people describe bro-country as country's equivalent of hair metal, and how we're about due for our equivalent of Nirvana and grunge to sweep the last of it away. I'm just bringing this up because I continue to find this song extremely forgettable and weak. Although I do hold out hope that M&T have better songs in their catalog, and I do hope that this is enough of a hit for their album to get out. BMLG's "two singles before the album comes out" policy is stupid, and you'd think they'd realize it after how badly it backfired for Greg Bates, Sunny Sweeney, Steel Magnolia...
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