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Post by Jonsolo on Dec 21, 2012 16:42:05 GMT -5
Top Country Artists of 2012 (their 2011 ranking is in parenthesis):
1. (2) Blake Shelton - 396 2. (11) Luke Bryan - 369 3. (27) Eric Church - 340 4. (4) Jason Aldean - 331 5. (6) Kenny Chesney - 313 6. (18) Carrie Underwood - 304 7. (3) Zac Brown Band - 301 8. (21) Tim McGraw - 297 9. (12) Jake Owen - 279 10. (13) Miranda Lambert - 271 11. Lee Brice - 261 12. Little Big Town - 260 13. (15) The Band Perry - 254 14. (22) Dierks Bentley - 252 15. (8) Taylor Swift - 242 16. (14) Rascal Flatts - 223 17. (9) Toby Keith - 206 18. Hunter Hayes - 205 19. Brantley Gilbert - 194 20. Kip Moore - 196 21. (1) Lady Antebellum - 190 22. Dustin Lynch - 183 23. Love And Theft - 182 24. Florida Georgia Line - 178 25. Josh Turner - 177 26. (17) Eli Young Band - 175 27T. (10) Chris Young - 173 27T. (20) Justin Moore - 173 29. Jana Kramer - 170 30. (7) Keith Urban - 150 31T. (25) George Strait - 148 31T. Thomas Rhett - 148 33. Gloriana - 144 34. (28) Thompson Square - 138 35. Craig Morgan - 132 36. (33T) David Nail - 131 37. Jerrod Niemann - 126 38. Alan Jackson - 119
- Just takes a glance at the list, to see how much change occurred between the top earners of 2011 and 2012. Only four artists repeated in the top 10 (actually, only four top 10ers made it back into at least the top 14). This was after eight of 2011's top ten were repeats from 2010.
- As mentioned above, Blake Shelton used his Christmas album to chart several songs, the last two which made the final chart week gave him the yearly win. After a #9 ranking in 2010 and #2 last year, he's off to a great start for the decade.
- Other artists who have made the top 10 for all three years of the current decade are Jason Aldean (#4 for all three years - stuck in a rut!), Kenny Chesney (#5, #6, #5 - more great consistency), and Zac Brown Band (#2, #3, #7).
- Luke Bryan, Eric Church, and Jake Owen are the young acts that crashed the top 10 party, posting very impressive years. And Lee Brice and Little Big Town were also names that not many people would have picked back in January, to be as high as they ended up.
- Lady Antebellum's fall, from two years of 400+ points and two #1 rankings, is the most noticeable. But Brad Paisley's effort of 81 points had him plummet entirely off the list, after last year's #5 standing.
- For other comparisons to years past, there were only two artists that scored over 350 points, with seven in 2011 and two in 2010. Fourteen artists scored 250+ points, just like 2010, and 2011 had ten.
- The top five and top ten artists averaged 349.8 and 320.1 points this year, compared to 391.6 and 349.2 for those two classifications in 2011. By the time we got to the top 15, the averages for the two years got back closer together (298 to 307). This continues the trend of the points appearing to be spread out among more artists from year to year.
- I'm guessing that on Joel's list, and with the point tallying he did from the new mongrel chart, he had Taylor's point total well over the 500 mark, to easily win the year. As she will likely do on that list every year going forward... Sigh...
On to the decade list...
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Post by Jonsolo on Dec 21, 2012 16:42:30 GMT -5
Top Point Earners of the Decade, 2010 - 2019 (their decade ranking at the end of 2011 is in parenthesis)
1. (3) Jason Aldean - 1121 2. (5) Blake Shelton - 1119 3. (4) Zac Brown Band - 1085 4. (1) Lady Antebellum - 1068 5. (6) Kenny Chesney - 1010 6. (8) Taylor Swift - 890 7T. (2) Brad Paisley - 874 7T. (9) Miranda Lambert - 874 9. (7) Keith Urban - 846 10. (11) Carrie Underwood - 827 11. (18) Luke Bryan - 820 12. (17) Tim McGraw - 760 13. (10) Toby Keith - 759 14. (19) The Band Perry - 703 15. (16) Rascal Flatts - 695 16. (22) Dierks Bentley - 682 17. (13) Chris Young - 680 18. (28) Eric Church - 646 19. (20) George Strait - 587 20. (34) Jake Owen - 559 21T. (15) Darius Rucker - 554 21T. (24) Josh Turner - 554 23. (25) Justin Moore - 535 24. (35) Lee Brice - 526 25. (12) Reba McEntire - 522 26. (14) Billy Currington - 513 27. (23) Alan Jackson - 499 28. (21) Trace Adkins - 481 29. (26) Easton Corbin - 456 30. Little Big Town - 450 31. (27) Jerrod Niemann - 438 32. (37) Eli Young Band - 435 33. (36) Thompson Square - 402 34. (31) Rodney Atkins - 377 35. Gloriana - 373 36. Brantley Gilbert - 372 37. (33) Martina McBride - 356 38. (43) Craig Morgan - 347 39. (45) David Nail - 326 40. Kip Moore - 307 41. (29) Sugarland - 297 42. (30) Joe Nichols - 295 43T. Montgomery Gentry - 294 43T. (41) Gary Allan - 294 45. (32) Steel Magnolia - 290 46. Hunter Hayes - 289 47. (39) Uncle Kracker - 285 48. (42) Clay Walker - 275 49. Randy Houser - 272 50. (40) Sara Evans - 259 51. (38) Gretchen Wilson - 257 52. Kelly Clarkson - 255 53. (44) Kellie Pickler - 249 54. Love And Theft - 247
- Lady Antebellum's (relatively) quiet year causes them to relinquish the #1 spot for the current decade, though they're still within striking distance of it. If they release four more albums during the remaining seven years of the decade, they'll be a contender, especially with their ability to chart non-singles, and could easily offer up new Christmas songs every year.
- Brad's bad year has him vacating the #2 slot, and he's suddenly 250 points behind the leaders. Will take some work to get him back to being a contender for the decade winner, as I had him pegged at the end of 2009.
- A bit of a gap being opened up between the top 5 and the rest of the pack. That's almost large enough for me to expect the same five artists will be in the top 5 at the end of '13, only in a different order.
- As I guessed at the end of last year, Toby gave up his momentary hold on a top 10 slot, and Carrie was the obvious replacement. Luke Bryan's big year nearly got him that slot, however.
- Out of the artists currently in the top 10, Keith Urban is the one whose odds are in holding that standing until 2019 are the longest. I think he'll eventually move out, and give up his spot to a younger artist, likely The Band Perry or maybe Luke. The other artists near the top 10 (Tim, Toby, Flatts, Dierks) are closer to the end of their careers than the beginning, and shouldn't be contenders for the top 10 on the completed decade list.
- George was able to maintain his top 20 standing despite a quiet year, and he was enabled to do so by the quieter years for Rucker, Reba, and Currington. With nearly 600 points in the first three years of the decade, I think I'll have to be happy if George is able to earn 600 points during the remaining seven years of the decade. That would get him near the 11,600 point mark, and not quite to George Jones, but an impressive total and one I'd be happy with him to "retire" at.
- One of the few things I'm looking forward to seeing in the new Whitbook, is how the 2000s decade list turned out (as that one wouldn't yet be infected by the mongrel chart, and still be "pure"). I'll look forward to seeing if that matches what I came up with on this thread, a third of the way down page 5.
- Anyway, this is a pretty interesting list to peruse, and see the ebb and flow as artists move up and down the decade standings. I feel pretty confident that I was able to list every artist that has over 250 points during the first three years of the decade. That does give us a top 50, which is how far down Joel has been monitoring. But I will be shocked if he doesn't have Taylor leading his mongrel-infected decade list come his book's release date in the spring.
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Post by Jonsolo on Dec 21, 2012 16:42:46 GMT -5
That will do it for 2012's end-of-year update, and the next event that we'll all be waiting for is the release of the new Joel Whitburn book in the spring. It's going to be bittersweet, of course, as we'll get to put a bow on the 2000-2009 decade, and see his final rankings (and how close I was to getting those point totals right, barring a change to his point tabulations). And of course the bitter part will be seeing the mess that Billboard started for the final three months of 2012. It'll leave a black-eye on the chronological listing of every #1, as he shows the 9-week #1 that Taylor "earned" during that time, and how many more top 40 songs that she got credited with after her album was released. Not to mention, she'll be at least a dozen spots and 250 points higher on Joel's all-time list.
That does introduce the unsavory question as to how much longer I (and Zazie) will continue to track our own Whitburn points lists, if it no longer can be accurately be titled the Whitburn points list. Part of the fun of it was trying to see how close we could be to showing what Joel would have on his list, and since he was the "official" word on country history. Since we both completely reject the new mongrel chart, we refuse to refigure out our points list with taking into account that mongrel chart's "accomplishments". And if our own "airplay-only" lists aren't going to be reflected anywhere else as "official", and are now strictly " for entertainment purposes only", I'm not sure if that's enough to keep us motivated. We'll have to see, and no promises. We'll both start off in 2013 continuing to follow along with our lists, but I won't be surprised if the interest begins to wane.
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2012 22:38:54 GMT -5
Superb work as always Jonsolo, but shouldn't Joel (or you) have been able 'put a bow' on the 2000-2009 time period back in the spring of 2011, or even this past spring?
Those press releases which came out at the end of 2009 stated that Tim was the most-played artist of the decade on the radio, that 8 of the top ten most-played artists were country artists, that and 'Something Like That' was the most-played song of the decade on the radio regardless of genre certainly received plenty of coverage.
I know that Kenny's closing in on Tim on Joel's all-time list as Zazie posted recently, so we'll see what 2013 holds in store for both of them.
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Post by countrybamafan on Dec 22, 2012 0:07:49 GMT -5
Thanks so much, Jonsolo. As I said in another thread, Whitburn's chart may be considered "official", but with him changing to Billboard's new rules, I no longer consider it official. Still, I understand that staying motivated will be much harder now. Regardless of your decision, I appreciate all that you and Zazie have contributed to the board with this chart. Country sensations come and go, but this chart really shows just which artists have made the biggest impact (at least when it comes to country radio).
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Post by Zazie on Dec 22, 2012 9:38:51 GMT -5
I enjoy working on this Whitburn stuff, although the pleasure is waning for reasons documented by Jon above. But I do want to make sure that credit goes where it belongs. I update my Whitburn list weekly and I do hash out various issues with Jon along the way, but all the considerable work that goes into these updates is done by Jon, and he alone deserves thanks if you enjoyed reading his numbers and thoughts. (Also he alone deserves criticism, perhaps banning from Pulse, if he turns out to be one point off on Jerrod Niemann's total. Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown, as Shakespeare or Kristofferson once said.)
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Dec 26, 2012 19:43:06 GMT -5
Awesome read as usual Thanks for updating :)
I'm getting eager to see if George Strait can come close to George Jones. He'll need about 15 more top 20's or so do do so correct? I think he can maybe get a few more of those and maybe some lower peaks as his career on radio winds down. That is if he keeps recording after this tour, which I'm really hoping he does. The two George's are gonna finish close though that's for sure. I do have to wonder if anybody will ever make it up that high again? Probably not but I think Kenny and/or Tim may have a slim chance of doing so.
I'm also hoping for a female to break the top 20 again one day that'd be nice.
Also If you ever stop doing this I'm still gonna try to keep track cause I like this system and I'm not gonna incorperate the new mongrel chart at all. I'd rather keep things the way they are.
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Post by dajross6 on Dec 26, 2012 23:36:13 GMT -5
Awesome stuff. I'd like to see more of Jonsolo around the boards, even though the state of country music listening and chart watching is growing kind of old with the winds of change. Thanks for the time put into this as it's one of the highlights every 6 months!
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Post by dajross6 on Dec 26, 2012 23:40:09 GMT -5
Also, I'd like to think Mr. Strait can someday catch #2, but if the new chart is used, kiss it goodbye. His three songs a year peaking in the 30s won't do much. It will take him about 10 years after he's dead of continually releasing songs to catch the top two :(
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Post by Zazie on Dec 27, 2012 16:14:16 GMT -5
Also, I'd like to think Mr. Strait can someday catch #2, but if the new chart is used, kiss it goodbye. His three songs a year peaking in the 30s won't do much. It will take him about 10 years after he's dead of continually releasing songs to catch the top two :( The Jim Reeves technique? I don't think George will have to go that route. 970 points to go, call it an even thousand to make the math easier. Give George only 5 top 10's with an average score of 100 points and he's halfway there. One #1, one top 3, one top 5, two top 10. That still leaves him needing 500 of his 1000 hoped-for points, which means 8 songs if he averages 60 points (top 40 and 20 weeks) each. So 13 more songs with a not-terribly-difficult distribution of chart peaks. Sure, he could run out of gas long before reaching Jones. No more top 5 hits at all. That could happen -- but I'm not that extreme in my outlook. I look for the cowboy to fade away, not plummet. I still think his current song is heading for the top 5, so if it stalls barely inside the top 20, I will have to re-think.
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Post by Jonsolo on Mar 18, 2013 14:54:49 GMT -5
I just received in the mail, here at work, the new Joel Whitburn Hot Country Songs book (1944-2012). It was of course one of the least-anticipated packages I've ever gotten in the mail, and that's because of the effects of the new mongrel chart, that has contaminated it. And with the mongrel chart here to stay, and sure to continue to spread its infection in future editions, this will almost certainly be the final Whitburn book I buy.
Haven't really looked at it yet, as I'm afraid to see just how much of a mess the points list and #1 lists have become, with all those songs from Taylor making it onto the mongrel chart last year. Should be really depressing...
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 18, 2013 15:11:51 GMT -5
Please come back, Jonsolo. We want you here!
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Post by Zazie on Mar 18, 2013 15:48:35 GMT -5
I haven't gotten mine yet. Evidently they fear the wrath of Zazie!
How many days can Jon own the Whitbook and stay away from looking at the total points for Aldean an Swift? The over/under is 2 days.
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Post by dajross6 on Mar 23, 2013 18:10:24 GMT -5
Don't want to ruin the surprise since my book got here today. Pretty disappointing to see Taylor Swift having the highest ranking song of the last 50 years.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 8, 2013 16:36:06 GMT -5
For what it's worth as of last week Blake Shelton has moved into the top 100 country artists of all time pushing Joe Diffie out.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 8, 2013 16:37:12 GMT -5
For what it's worth as of last week Blake Shelton has moved into the top 100 country artists of all time pushing Joe Diffie out. Jason Aldean is crushed.
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Post by Zazie on Apr 9, 2013 7:45:23 GMT -5
For what it's worth as of last week Blake Shelton has moved into the top 100 country artists of all time pushing Joe Diffie out. Joe wants back in, though. I just heard a new song of his called Shotgun on Rate the Music. I'm not sure it's the worst song ever, but it's close. I can't say I'm rooting for it, though I like a lot of Joe's older songs, because the day is getting closer that will see Ricky Skaggs kicked out of the top 100, and that will be a sad day for me. So I have to root against Joe and Trace scoring any more points. Can't do anything to stop Blake, Carrie, and Taylor of course.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 21, 2013 11:29:29 GMT -5
Bumping this up in anticipation of one of Jonsolo's twice-yearly updates....
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jun 23, 2013 15:47:18 GMT -5
Two little lists I've made in my downtime lol (if there's anything that's inaccurate I apologize.)
Top 100 artists of the past 1/4 century. (Debut was in the past 25 years) 01. Alan Jackson - 7367 02. Tim McGraw - 7060 03. Kenny Chesney - 6826 04. Toby Keith - 6339 05. Garth Brooks - 6163 06. Brooks & Dunn - 5641 07. Clint Black - 4492 08. Martina McBride - 4278 09. Brad Paisley - 4114 10. Rascal Flatts - 4082 11. Keith Urban - 3703 12. Faith Hill - 3689 13. Travis Tritt - 3682 14. Trisha Yearwood - 3303 15. Mark Chesnutt* - 3217 16. Tracy Lawrence - 3151 17. Lonestar - 3085 18. John Michael Montgomery - 3084 19. Clay Walker - 3067 20. Blake Shelton - 2981 21. Trace Adkins - 2964 22. Diamond Rio - 2938 23. Joe Diffie - 2911 24. Collin Raye - 2796 25. Carrie Underwood - 2765 26. Lorrie Morgan* - 2709 27. Shania Twain - 2643 28. Montgomery Gentry - 2546 29. Taylor Swift - 2494 30. Tracy Byrd - 2377 31. Gary Allan - 2342 32. Dierks Bentley - 2215 33. Sammy Kershaw - 2209 34. Aaron Tippin - 2173 35. LeAnn Rimes - 2170 36. Dixie Chicks - 2161 37. Sara Evans - 2149 38. Jason Aldean - 2144 39. Jo Dee Messina - 2106 40. Wynonna Judd - 2092 41. Pam Tillis* - 2072 42. Neal McCoy - 2058 43. Mary Chapin Carpenter* - 1939 44. Doug Stone - 1870 45. Lee Ann Womack - 1852 46. Terri Clark - 1835 47. Sugarland - 1801 48. Lady Antebellum - 1789 49. Phil Vassar - 1754 50. Billy Ray Cyrus - 1724 51. Billy Dean - 1717 52. Craig Morgan - 1709 53. Zac Brown Band - 1610 54. Miranda Lambert - 1606 55. Joe Nichols - 1600 56. Mark Wills - 1571 57. Billy Currington - 1561 58. Rodney Atkins - 1555 59. Darryl Worley - 1455 60. Little Texas - 1440 61. Luke Bryan - 1433 62. Lee Roy Parnell - 1428 63. Suzy Bogguss* - 1419 64. Josh Turner - 1398 65. Gretchen Wilson - 1362 66. Blackhawk - 1317 67. Eric Church - 1289 68. Ty Herndon - 1265 69. John Berry - 1252 70. Little Big Town - 1251 71. Paul Overstreet* - 1216 72. Bryan White - 1211 73. Hal Ketchum - 1206 74. Jake Owen - 1174 75. Chris Cagle - 1168 76. Darius Rucker - 1132 77. SHeDAISY - 1119 78. Steve Holy - 1098 79. Andy Griggs - 1043 80. Pat Green - 1043 81. Big & Rich - 1024 82. Chris Young - 1012 83. Confederate Railroad - 1003 84. Wade Hayes - 986 85. Chely Wright - 968 86. Rick Trevino - 964 87. Ricochet - 959 88. David Lee Murphy - 930 89. Alison Krauss* - 910 90. Mark Collie - 885 91. Deana Carter - 878 92. The Band Perry - 856 93. Jamie O'Neal - 843 94. Lee Brice - 834 95. Lionel Cartwright - 826 96. Daryle Singletary - 818 97. McBride & The Ride - 814 98. Justin Moore - 804 99. Jimmy Wayne - 789 100. Josh Gracin - 773
Edit: If you take out the Asterisked artists these would be the 7 that would make it... 101. Rhett Akins - 766 102. Jack Ingram - 765 103. Emerson Drive - 753 104. The Mavericks - 750 105. Jeff Carson - 748 106. Jessica Andrews - 745 107. Mindy McCready - 736
and since the turn of the century.... 01. Rascal Flatts - 4082 02. Blake Shelton - 2981 03. Carrie Underwood - 2765 04. Taylor Swift - 2494 05. Dierks Bentley - 2215 06. Jason Aldean - 2144 07. Sugarland - 1801 08. Lady Antebellum - 1789 09. Phil Vassar - 1754 10. Craig Morgan - 1709 11. Zac Brown Band - 1610 12. Miranda Lambert - 1606 13. Billy Currington - 1561 14. Rodney Atkins - 1555 15. Darryl Worley - 1455 16. Luke Bryan - 1433 17. Josh Turner - 1398 18. Gretchen Wilson - 1362 19. Eric Church - 1289 20. Little Big Town - 1251 21. Jake Owen - 1174 22. Chris Cagle - 1168 23. Darius Rucker - 1132 24. Steve Holy - 1098 25. Pat Green - 1043 26. Big & Rich - 1024 27. Chris Young - 1012 28. The Band Perry - 856 29. Jamie O'Neal - 843 30. Lee Brice - 834 31. Justin Moore - 804 32. Jimmy Wayne - 789 33. Josh Gracin - 773 34. Emerson Drive - 753 35. Kellie Pickler - 729 36. Eli Young Band - 697 37. James Otto - 594 38. Randy Houser - 593 39. Trick Pony - 576 40. Keith Anderson - 574 41. David Nail - 551 42. Easton Corbin - 535 43. The Lost Trailers - 517 44. Thompson Square - 513 45. Gloriana - 493 46. Jerrod Niemann - 490 47. Blaine Larsen - 475 48. Jason Michael Carroll - 470 49. Hunter Hayes - 469 50. Bucky Covington - 461 51. Kelly Clarkson - 458 52. Uncle Kracker - 456 53. Kid Rock - 453 54. Carolyn Dawn Johnson - 439 55. Sheryl Crow - 437 56. Jeff Bates - 420 57. Brantley Gilbert - 418 58. Jamey Johnson - 408 59. Sarah Buxton - 408 60. Kip Moore - 396 61. Love And Theft - 391 62. Trent Tomlinson - 376 63. James Wesley - 373 64. Josh Thompson - 360 65. Chuck Wicks - 351 66. Bomshel - 347 67. Van Zant - 347 68. Buddy Jewell - 343 69. Randy Rogers Band - 338 70. Tim Rushlow - 337 71. Brian McComas - 336 72. Florida Georgia Line - 330 73. Jewel - 327 74. Cross Canadian Ragweed - 326 75. Rebecca Lynn Howard - 323 76. Scotty McCreery - 316 77. Craig Campbell - 302 78. Trent Willmon - 298 79. Steel Magnolia - 290 80. Blue County - 286 81. Cyndi Thomson - 277 82. The Wreckers - 276 83. Chalee Tennison - 275 84. Bon Jovi - 273 85. Carolina Rain - 265 86. Colt Ford - 263 87. Danielle Peck - 257 88. Eric Heatherly - 251 89. Katie Armiger - 247 90. Dustin Lynch - 237 91. Billy Gilman - 235 92. Rachel Proctor - 235 93. Trailer Choir - 234 94. Jana Kramer - 233 95. Kacey Musgraves - 233 96. Jennifer Hanson - 231 97. Ashton Shepherd - 224 98. Kevin Fowler - 222 99. The Clark Family Experience - 222 100. Heidi Newfield - 221
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 18:13:56 GMT -5
What does an asterisk by their name mean?
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jun 23, 2013 19:23:39 GMT -5
What does an asterisk by their name mean? It means that they techically didn't debut in the timeframe I set but I included them because they're very very close to qualifying. Take Mary Chapin Carpenter for example, she gained all her points in the alloted time but her debut album came out before the time frame. Same goes for Mark Chesnutt, & Alison Krauss. Lorrie Morgan, Suzy Bogguss, Paul Overstreet, & Pam Tillis all had singles chart before the time period, but they didn't have an album out until the eligibility period so I felt it'd be fair to include them. I just realized I didn't put any of their point totals which I meant to so I'll be updating this in the near future with the totals lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 19:38:25 GMT -5
Thank you very much for clearing that up, I appreciate it.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 24, 2013 16:48:36 GMT -5
Great job, Kanenrá:ke Stacey!
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 5, 2013 19:30:14 GMT -5
Since I'm not sure if Jonsolo is going to post a mid year update I'll post the top gainers of the year. I figure top 25 would be sufficent. (104 charting artists though I'm not sure who to credit the friends part of "Boys 'Round Here" so they don't count.)
01. Blake Shelton - 346 02. Taylor Swift - 270 03. Kenny Chesney - 250 04. Tim McGraw - 239 05. Eric Church - 204 06. Hunter Hayes - 200 07. Luke Bryan - 198 08. Lady Antebellum - 191 09. Jason Aldean - 170 10. The Band Perry - 165 11. Pistol Annies - 160 12. Miranda Lambert - 156 13. Florida Georgia Line - 154 14. Brad Paisley - 146 15. Zac Brown Band - 136 16. Darius Rucker - 135 17. Lee Brice - 128 18. Randy Houser - 127 19. Carrie Underwood - 124 20. Little Big Town - 121 21. Gary Allan - 120 22. Jake Owen - 118 23. Kacey Musgraves - 117 (126 if they credit her for the rest of "Bourbon In Kentucky"'s chart run) 24. Thompson Square - 113 25. Scotty McCreery - 113
If any numbers are wrong I apologize and will correct them in the future as I plan to double check everything at the end of the year.
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Post by countrybamafan on Jul 5, 2013 19:41:27 GMT -5
^Are you using the Billboard Country Airplay chart, or are you using the Hot Country Songs (aka mongruel) chart? Taylor's position seems a bit high when using the Airplay chart, but maybe not (then again, Florida Georgia Line's position seems low if you are using the Hot Country Songs chart, considering Cruise has been #1 for most of 2013 on that chart).
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 5, 2013 19:51:27 GMT -5
^Are you using the Billboard Country Airplay chart, or are you using the Hot Country Songs (aka mongruel) chart? Taylor's position seems a bit high when using the Airplay chart, but maybe not (then again, Florida Georgia Line's position seems low if you are using the Hot Country Songs chart, considering Cruise has been #1 for most of 2013 on that chart). Airplay only, I don't recognize the mongrel chart. I'll double check Taylor's points cause it does seem a bit high but do remember she's had "Begin Again", "I Knew You Were Trouble", "All Too Well", "Highway Don't Care" & "Red" chart this year. Edit: You were right, she should be listed as 270 not 275. Here's a breakdown of her points. Begin Again - 35 (9 Chart weeks + she broke the top 10, Top 5 & top 3) All Too Well - 31 (1 Chart Week) I Knew You Were Trouble - 31 (1 Chart Week) Red - 43 (3 Chart Weeks + #34 Peak) Highway Don't Care - 130 (20 Chart Weeks, 2nd week at top + #1 peak)
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Post by countrybamafan on Jul 5, 2013 20:32:27 GMT -5
Edit: You were right, she should be listed as 270 not 275. Here's a breakdown of her points. I wouldn't say I was right when you were only five points off lol. I didn't realize that Taylor had two album tracks chart. That can make a huge difference in points (but those two charted at #31 on the Country Airplay chart?! That seems a big high for a debut of a non-country single, but I'll admit to not following the charts closely anymore). Also, I completely forgot about Highway Don't Care counting for Taylor. That deserves a major slap on the forehead on my part. It certainly boosted Taylor's total. So, all of those factors combined, no wonder Taylor is so high. By the way, thanks for the work you put in for doing this! I'm still holding out hope that one day, Billboard will wake up and revert the charts back to what they used to be (or at least use the Airplay chart as the main chart that incorporates all the history). I'm honestly hoping Cruise stays #1 on the mongruel chart as long as possible. Hopefully, it can stay there through September until summer ends (or longer). Maybe then, Billboard will realize they screwed up. I was listening to one of my local stations and they were raving about how Cruise was the longest running #1 song for the past 50 years and about how huge of a hit it was. I wanted to call up the station and give them a 10 minute lecture (but I was running late for work :) )
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 5, 2013 20:43:11 GMT -5
Edit: You were right, she should be listed as 270 not 275. Here's a breakdown of her points. I wouldn't say I was right when you were only five points off lol. I didn't realize that Taylor had two album tracks chart. That can make a huge difference in points (but those two charted at #31 on the Country Airplay chart?! That seems a big high for a debut of a non-country single, but I'll admit to not following the charts closely anymore). Also, I completely forgot about Highway Don't Care counting for Taylor. That deserves a major slap on the forehead on my part. It certainly boosted Taylor's total. So, all of those factors combined, no wonder Taylor is so high. By the way, thanks for the work you put in for doing this! I'm still holding out hope that one day, Billboard will wake up and revert the charts back to what they used to be (or at least use the Airplay chart as the main chart that incorporates all the history). I'm honestly hoping Cruise stays #1 on the mongruel chart as long as possible. Hopefully, it can stay there through September until summer ends (or longer). Maybe then, Billboard will realize they screwed up. I was listening to one of my local stations and they were raving about how Cruise was the longest running #1 song for the past 50 years and about how huge of a hit it was. I wanted to call up the station and give them a 10 minute lecture (but I was running late for work :) ) 31 points not #31 just to clarify. They both charted for one week. "I Knew You Were Trouble" peaked at #55 which is worth 30 points, & 1 week is worth 1 point. "All Too Well" peaked at #58 which is also worth 30 points + 1 week. :)
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Post by kml567 on Jul 5, 2013 20:56:48 GMT -5
This system seems really flawed. "Begin Again" (top 3 hit) only gets 35 points, but IKNWT and ATW (with just 1 chart week peaking around #55) gets 31 points??
P.S. Shouldn't Luke have at least 230 points? He has two #1s this year, and "Buzzkill" peaked at #59. I guess Kenny also racked up a bunch of points for his 1-week wonder album cuts when the new album was released.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 5, 2013 21:36:47 GMT -5
This system seems really flawed. "Begin Again" (top 3 hit) only gets 35 points, but IKNWT and ATW (with just 1 chart week peaking around #55) gets 31 points?? P.S. Shouldn't Luke have at least 230 points? He has two #1s this year, and "Buzzkill" peaked at #59. I guess Kenny also racked up a bunch of points for his 1-week wonder album cuts when the new album was released. "Begin Again"'s point total is from what it achieved this year, meaning all it's chart weeks in 2012 don't count on my list which is just for the 2013 charts. It's total for it's entire run is 102. Same with Luke & "The Only Way I Know". Luke's points by single. "The Only Way I Know" (55 Points) "Buzzkill" (31) "Crash My Party" (112)
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