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Post by Kurt on Jun 11, 2015 20:58:46 GMT -5
The only way I see Hilary Duff outselling Adam Lambert next week is if it's $4 on iTunes.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 11, 2015 23:38:11 GMT -5
The album competition for TOH is weak. It should be #1.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 12, 2015 2:50:48 GMT -5
There's absolutely nothing strange with it, and it's pretty clear the label is promoting but not pushing the song (and that maybe it's a good idea, because some examples of labels pushing the song, Stuck on a feeling, Nobody love, didn't end well, with the song dead on radio by the times the sales were catching). These both had On The Verge deals, which would likely explain why the songs rose at the speed that they did, only to then crash. And it was a very bad idea. With new artist i think labels should try to make them happen on radio, promoting them, making radio tours, but a deal if it's not with other kind of promo that help the sales generally doesn't work (unless the song really has a massive appeal). What happens in those cases is the song climbs unnaturally on the pop chart while it's itunes position is very low, by the time the airplay and other promo make the song moves on itunes, the song generally is totally dead on pop`. Maybe it's better to wait for a kind of deal like that and see how people react to the song, there are songs that are slow growers (and even more in the case of new artist), let the song grow on a more natural way could help with the timing. By the way i think the label it's going to make the same mistake with Tori Kelly's new single
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2015 6:20:27 GMT -5
POP: 33 31 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2017 1703 314 8.492
+26 Spins +1 Bullet +0.134 Audience
HOT AC: 34 34 SIA Elastic Heart 495 456 39 2.784
+8 Spins -9 Bullet +0.093 Audience
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 12, 2015 6:23:04 GMT -5
Don't give us heart failure, here's the correct HAC report. Scrambled songs there. LOL
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23 22 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1395 1229 166 6.143
+16 Spins -16 Bullet +0.113 Audience
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Post by Future Captain on Jun 12, 2015 7:53:00 GMT -5
The only way I see Hilary Duff outselling Adam Lambert next week is if it's $4 on iTunes. I see. Then TOH's competition for #1 is probably 1989
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Post by HellaGood on Jun 12, 2015 8:11:55 GMT -5
I can't wait for this to smash, please!!
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Post by HellaGood on Jun 12, 2015 13:05:27 GMT -5
Ghost Town #1 South Africa #8 Denmark #14 Netherlands #17 Australia #23 Turkey #25 Sweden #29 Ireland #44 United Kingdom #44 Germany #58 New Zealand #79 India #86 Switzerland #93 Russia #129 + #423 United States #140 Canada
Omg it should be top 100 combined in the US! I have a feeling that this will smash, would be nice to see Adam getting another top 10!
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 13, 2015 6:33:22 GMT -5
POP
33 30 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2025 1719 306 8.489
+8 Spins -8 Bullet -0.003 Audience
HAC
24 22 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1416 1253 163 6.324
+21 Spins -3 Bullet +0.181 Audience
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Post by 7am on Jun 13, 2015 8:02:14 GMT -5
Ghost Town #1 South Africa #8 Denmark #14 Netherlands #17 Australia #23 Turkey #25 Sweden #29 Ireland #44 United Kingdom #44 Germany #58 New Zealand #79 India #86 Switzerland #93 Russia #129 + #423 United States #140 Canada Omg it should be top 100 combined in the US! I have a feeling that this will smash, would be nice to see Adam getting another top 10! yeah glad to see iTunes is catching up. according to kworb the overall ai is ~#125 now, and iTunes is finally matching. now Hot 100 please!
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 13, 2015 10:52:14 GMT -5
Oh, I don't think anyone posted it but GT was #18 on the Bubbling Under chart this past week.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 13, 2015 11:01:57 GMT -5
I am hearing such good buzz for this cd. This particular song hasn't grown on me much though.
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 14, 2015 6:58:45 GMT -5
POP
31 30 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2081 1758 323 8.391
+56 Spins +17 Bullet -0.098 Audience
HAC
22 22 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1418 1279 139 6.337
+2 Spins -24 Bullet +0.013 Audience
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Post by brb on Jun 14, 2015 9:33:02 GMT -5
#107 US iTunes now.. Could it enter the top 100 before the Fallon performance tomorrow night or will it continue to hover there? I am hearing such good buzz for this cd. This particular song hasn't grown on me much though. The album deserves the good buzz it's getting. It's his most cohesive album to date and I personally love it.
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Post by ss8 on Jun 14, 2015 9:52:54 GMT -5
Any predictions for where he is gonna debut and sell next week?
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HellaGood
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Post by HellaGood on Jun 14, 2015 9:55:50 GMT -5
What's up with that negative audience?
I'd say 50-80k for US
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Post by jimmyt on Jun 14, 2015 10:32:38 GMT -5
What's up with that negative audience? I'd say 50-80k for US I think they would be happy with 60k, given Trespassing sold 77k 3 years ago when the albums market was stronger. GT failed to make the top 40 in the UK this week, disappointing as it was on at half price last week. But tbf pretty much no radio support.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 14, 2015 11:13:07 GMT -5
I'm going to guess 55K for the first week.
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Post by downsouth on Jun 14, 2015 13:10:23 GMT -5
I'm going to say 35K-40K in pure sales and maybe 40K-45K with TEA's and SEA's?
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Post by jimmyt on Jun 14, 2015 13:47:30 GMT -5
What's up with that negative audience? I'd say 50-80k for US I think they would be happy with 60k, given Trespassing sold 77k 3 years ago when the albums market was stronger. GT failed to make the top 40 in the UK this week, In fact charted #82, disappointing as it was on at half price last week. But tbf pretty much no radio support and they seem to be putting 99% of promo effort into the U.S.
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Post by jimmyt on Jun 14, 2015 14:07:50 GMT -5
When's the next TV promo for this?
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 14, 2015 16:00:47 GMT -5
Fallon Monday night GMA concert and Kelly & Mike Show(pre-recorded) on the 19th.
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Post by HellaGood on Jun 14, 2015 19:17:38 GMT -5
This is almost top 100 (it's top 100 combined though)
currently #104 / #434
I think it will smash!!
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Post by graffeodl on Jun 15, 2015 6:13:36 GMT -5
POP
30 29 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2115 1873 242 8.105
+34 Spins -81 Bullet -0.286 Audience
HAC
22 21 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1427 1305 122 6.508
+9 Spins -17 Bullet +0.171 Audience
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53 50 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 22 23 -1 0.039
-2 Spins -2 Bullet -0.006 Audience
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Post by HellaGood on Jun 15, 2015 6:19:27 GMT -5
Ugh at these updates. I hope it rebounds.
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Post by suttonplace on Jun 15, 2015 7:37:50 GMT -5
Ugh at these updates. I hope it rebounds. updates are ok..the song actually had a good week...stronger updates earlier in the week than later, but solid weekend updates and its climbed like 100-120 places on iTunes over the past ten days..the bullet loss on pop is due to AT40...first appearance was last week, second was this week....just balancing out the bullet jump from last week....hac is hac...GT isn't really an HAC song and it was bound to slow down there sooner or later...ac isn't even a format they're targeting..a couple of stations are playing it a bit so it peeks into the top 50 every now and then and disappears...actually the chr update this morning was pretty decent for this song
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 15, 2015 8:28:15 GMT -5
the pop update is not that bad, it was a luck it was played on at40 this week too
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Post by brb on Jun 15, 2015 9:01:28 GMT -5
the pop update is not that bad, it was a luck it was played on at40 this week too What's luck about it? Once a song debuts at AT40 (whether as Subway Fresh buzz song, on the verge, or whatever) it will continue to be played every week on the countdown until it drops out of the top 40. Anyways, I don't expect GT to get much better updates before it does better on sales and enters Billboard Top 100, and hopefully the promo works well this week.
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Post by Mikey on Jun 15, 2015 9:07:04 GMT -5
I bought this last week and just can't stop listening to this since then. Dope af.
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jjose712
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 15, 2015 12:50:09 GMT -5
the pop update is not that bad, it was a luck it was played on at40 this week too What's luck about it? Once a song debuts at AT40 (whether as Subway Fresh buzz song, on the verge, or whatever) it will continue to be played every week on the countdown until it drops out of the top 40. Anyways, I don't expect GT to get much better updates before it does better on sales and enters Billboard Top 100, and hopefully the promo works well this week. In fact no. Sometimes the song gets played as on the verge (or something like that) and it's not played again till it enters the chart. I don't expect better updates either, and in fact it could be quite dangerous if the song starts getting bigger updates without a rise on itunes. We all know what happened with Nobody love or Stuck on a feeling. It's better if it climbs at a decent rhythm but giving enough time to the sales to rise
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