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Post by ry4n on Apr 7, 2015 11:26:08 GMT -5
I'm more annoyed at Candy Shop blocking Boulevard Of Broken Dreams >:( Didnt just say SUBG lol. I was also thinking of BOBD. OMG did it block *that one too!?!? He also blocked himself on "Hate It Or Love It" |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 7, 2015 11:27:15 GMT -5
Just seems (kind of like what happened with Blurred Lines) UF is just crash landing. Didnt happen slowly/surely but very abrupt . Dunno if its cause of SYA or its just a coincidence. Cause even w/ SYA out of the mix, all these others songs would most likely still be rapidly catching up to UF I think SYA and the Easter sale had something to do with it I don't think Uptown Funk was hit too hard by Easter. If anything Earned It was the song that got hurt by the sale the most. It went from above UF to #7 in one weekend. Ellie's resurgence and SYA taking the "urban hit" spot away seems to have been fatal. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 11:30:48 GMT -5
GDFR gained nicely from it as well. There's a second version of it in the top 100 putting it above TQ, LMLYD and SUAD in overall sales right now. Also I recently noticed there's a second version of SYA at #92 on iTunes right now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 11:34:47 GMT -5
I can't believe Candy Shop had nine weeks at the top; I didn't recall it lasting that long. Talk about #1s that are barely remembered... One of the best examples (and worst era in R&R history) 1999-05/06 of quality..almost iconic songs (SUBG) that got *robbed due to the most ridiculous reasons. SUBG is possibly one of the best, beloved, remembered, overplayed songs from the past 10 years. I didn't hate 99-05, and I say that as a major Kelly Clarkson stan and fan of pop and r&b in general. (I also don't dislike most rap from back then though, and in fairness just about every #1 song at that time did have the massive airplay to back it up). That 2005 chart is actually fairly representative of the times, so I'm not usually too bothered by which song is sitting at the very top. But 2006-2007 was when it started becoming too much for me. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 7, 2015 12:00:19 GMT -5
SYA taking the "urban hit" spot away seems to have been fatal. Urban hit spot? Say whaaaat? Because Wiz Khalifa is a black rapper? "See You Again" is not an "urban hit." |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 7, 2015 12:13:33 GMT -5
SYA is def more r&b/pop (with crossover appeal) but obviously there's an urban touch to it as there's rapping in it. BBHMM is ALL urban. Forget about #1, assuming it falls from there after this week, anyone else think UF has chance to actually fall out of the top 2 (or lower). Meaning are Sugar and even LMLYD gaining enough to possibly be higher? I think Earned It is def. is not as red hot as it was a week ago.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 7, 2015 12:18:52 GMT -5
At this pace SYA is selling 450k a week but it's obviously not going to maintain it
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Post by Gary on Apr 7, 2015 12:22:09 GMT -5
It wil probably drop a little midweek and surge again this weekend as moviegoing picks back up
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Apr 7, 2015 12:28:37 GMT -5
It wil probably drop a little midweek and surge again this weekend as moviegoing picks back up There's a performance on The Voice tomorrow night. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 7, 2015 12:33:58 GMT -5
It wil probably drop a little midweek and surge again this weekend as moviegoing picks back up There's a performance on The Voice tomorrow night. Interesting to see how it goes then.. I find it pretty impossible these days that a song could sell 500k now that downloads in general are in decline. |
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 7, 2015 13:29:06 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
April 11, 1960 (for the week ending April 16)
01 01 Theme From A Summer Place - Percy Faith & His Orchestra (8th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Puppy Love - Paul Anka
03 04 He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves
04 03 Wild One - Bobby Rydell
05 12 Greenfields - The Brothers Four
06 05 Sweet Nothin's - Brenda Lee
07 06 Sink The Bismark - Johnny Horton
08 09 Mama - Connie Francis
09 14 I Love The Way You Love - Marv Johnson
10 07 Footsteps - Steve Lawrence
April 17, 1965
01 01 I'm Telling You Now - Freddie & The Dreamers (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Stop! In The Name Of Love - The Supremes
03 07 Game Of Love - Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders
04 09 I Know a Place - Petula Clark
05 04 Shotgun - Junior Walker & The All Stars
06 03 Can't You Hear My Heartbeat - Herman's Hermits
07 13 Tired Of Waiting For You - The Kinks
08 08 Nowhere To Run - Martha & The Vandellas
09 19 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis
10 15 Go Now - The Moody Blues
April 18, 1970
01 01 Let It Be - The Beatles (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 ABC - The Jackson Five
03 04 Spirit In The Sky - Norman Greenbaum
04 03 Instant Karma - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band
05 06 Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Grows) - Edison Lighthouse
06 05 Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel
07 08 Come & Get It - Badfinger
08 14 Love Me Or Let Me Be Lonely - Friends Of Distinction
09 15 American Woman - The Guess Who
10 11 Up The Ladder To The Roof - The Supremes
April 19, 1975
01 01 Philadelphia Freedom - Elton John (2nd and final week at #1)
02 06 (Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song - B.J. Thomas
03 02 Lovin' You - Minnie Riperton
04 03 No No Song / Snookeroo - Ringo Starr
05 23 He Don't Love You (Like I Love You) - Tony Orlando & Dawn
06 12 Supernatural Thing - Ben E. King
07 08 Chevy Man - Sammy Johns
08 09 What Am I Gonna Do With You - Barry White
09 11 Emma - Hot Chocolate
10 14 Before The Next Teardrop Falls - Freddy Fender
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Post by popbox on Apr 7, 2015 14:43:07 GMT -5
At this pace SYA is selling 450k a week but it's obviously not going to maintain it More like 300-350k at this pace. Remember, no song was selling a ton before SYA so don't let the huge lead fool you. If we assume UF will be around 100k next week (and it could be less) that means SYA would be around 350k at the rate it's outselling UF right now (if it maintained that lead for a week). I still don't think that can knock UF off for week 15, but I am concerned about week 16 now if SYA keeps up like this. I say discount, discount away label! Time to play dirty. I want that record dammit. If it doesn't happen now I'm afraid we may have to wait another 20 years again for the next chance. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 7, 2015 14:47:20 GMT -5
Behind the Paul Walker 'Furious 7' Tribute Song: 'We Didn't Want People Leaving the Theater Sad'
News /TV / Film By Phil Gallo, Los Angeles | April 06, 2015 10:02 PM EDT
Wiz Khalifa and Charlie Puth’s “See You Again” -- and its video in tribute to late Fast & Furious franchise star Paul Walker -- laid skid marks on the Internet with the release of Furious 7 in theaters this weekend.
Fast star Vin Diesel released the “See You Again” video Sunday at 11:45 p.m. ET on his Facebook page, and 20 hours later, it had been viewed more than 28 million times. It posted an hour later on Walker’s page and was viewed more than 15 million times by 7:45 p.m. ET. The track, which hit No. 1 on the iTunes singles chart, was sent to radio two weeks ago with an impact date of April 6.
“I think it’s only resonating because it feels genuine,” says Mike Knobloch, Universal Pictures’ president of music. “This was a moment that was so important to get right -- there’s always high stakes, but this was in a class of its own.”
The song intentionally closes the film on an uplifting note, says Knobloch. “Once it was clear that that’s the [film’s] structure -- the cast saying goodbye to Paul’s character -- we put it out to writers that the song had to be earnest and celebratory. We knew we didn’t want people leaving the theater sad.”
To date, the film has not been marketed as Walker’s finale, though the Walker tribute song will be part of the promotion going forward. Khalifa will perform the song on NBC’s The Voice on Wednesday, having already done it on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon and Revolt TV Live.
“We purposely held back on the song to be respectful of the fans’ experience and the Paul Walker family and camp,” says Kevin Weaver, president, film and television, Atlantic Records Group. “A lot of thought was put into allowing fans to experience the goodbye to Paul in the picture.”
Weaver set up the Voice performance two months ago, showing producer Audrey Morrissey footage of the scene, and “she took a leap of faith,” Weaver says. “The Voice became a big part of our rollout plan.”
Furious 7 grossed $143.6 million in the U.S. over the weekend, $384 million worldwide. It is Universal’s biggest-ever opening and the biggest domestic April debut in history.
The soundtrack -- which industry forecasters are suggesting could hit the top five on this week’s Billboard 200 -- was the result of a deliberate effort by Knobloch, Weaver, Warner Music Group A&R president Mike Caren and the filmmakers to fill song spots with new material from artists who fit the DNA of the franchise. They organized a writers’ camp to get new customized songs, knowing from the start that the Walker tribute would have a song and not score.
“It’s a very complicated sequence,” Knobloch says of the film’s coda. “In writing and producing it, there were beats it had to hit, moments when it has to push in and then dial back, be thinner in the production and then fuller.
“Charlie Puth and Wiz came into the cutting room and Mike Caren and [music supervisor] Rachel Levy and Kevin [Weaver] kept pointing to scenes and commenting on what it needed. This was not people in the music business sending around emails saying ‘check this out.’ This was people in a room working to get something 100 percent right.”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 15:14:21 GMT -5
SYA taking the "urban hit" spot away seems to have been fatal. Urban hit spot? Say whaaaat? Because Wiz Khalifa is a black rapper? "See You Again" is not an "urban hit." No, because it's in the Hip-Hop/Rap category on iTunes. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 7, 2015 15:15:06 GMT -5
We will see what See You Again does in airplay over the next eight days. Currently, theres over 200 million difference in audience impressions. Obviously by next Wednesday that will be much less. But, if See You Again can manage a 200k sales lead, it should take #1 next week. I would guess it'll be another big weekend for F&F7 at the box office, so that should keep the song selling well through Sunday night. Wiz's sales lead and Mark's airplay lead will more or less cancel each other out. It'll all come down to streaming. Wiz is ahead on Spotify, but YouTube/VEVO streams seem to hold much more power. Wiz's video is now available on his VEVO channel, but most of its streams are coming from the Facebook video (20 million now!) or the F&F7 page on YouTube which is listed under "Movies" or something. So basically, 90% of Wiz's music video streams won't count. There is also a lyrics video on Youtube which was uploaded on March 9 and has over 13 million views. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 7, 2015 15:16:43 GMT -5
Wiz's sales lead and Mark's airplay lead will more or less cancel each other out. It'll all come down to streaming. Wiz is ahead on Spotify, but YouTube/VEVO streams seem to hold much more power. Wiz's video is now available on his VEVO channel, but most of its streams are coming from the Facebook video (20 million now!) or the F&F7 page on YouTube which is listed under "Movies" or something. So basically, 90% of Wiz's music video streams won't count. There is also a lyrics video on Youtube which was uploaded on March 9 and has over 13 million views. That was a full month ago so it comes to roughly 3 million views a week. That figure includes streams from outside of the US so at the end of the day the lyric video is not so significant. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 7, 2015 15:19:13 GMT -5
There is also a lyrics video on Youtube which was uploaded on March 9 and has over 13 million views. That was a full month ago so it comes to roughly 3 million views a week. That figure includes streams from outside of the US so at the end of the day the lyric video is not so significant. Yes, I know but it still adds to its streaming total along with other audio versions. The official video now has 665k views on Youtube. Does Billboard really not count Facebook streams? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 15:24:25 GMT -5
Wiz's sales lead and Mark's airplay lead will more or less cancel each other out. It'll all come down to streaming. Wiz is ahead on Spotify, but YouTube/VEVO streams seem to hold much more power. Wiz's video is now available on his VEVO channel, but most of its streams are coming from the Facebook video (20 million now!) or the F&F7 page on YouTube which is listed under "Movies" or something. So basically, 90% of Wiz's music video streams won't count. There is also a lyrics video on Youtube which was uploaded on March 9 and has over 13 million views. That might be like 1 million USA views during this tracking week lol that's not gonna do much. Anyway, if it stays where it is on iTunes now and doesn't start dropping, it will sell about 400k. That would mean that, with the 15M-20M airplay it will have, it will need about 8 million USA streams (which will surely happen if the channel drops the video within the next couple of days, given the huge success of the movie and song). However, who is to say that it will hold where it is in sales? During the weekdays, there are much less people going to the movies so it would probably follow that the song will be selling less than it did on the weekend unless it's getting some sort of massive promotion outside of the movie. Also, even if it does hold up in sales for the rest of the week, if the video does not appear on YouTube then with the lack of streaming and airplay even 400k sales will not be enough to dethrone UF this week. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 7, 2015 15:32:25 GMT -5
There is also a lyrics video on Youtube which was uploaded on March 9 and has over 13 million views. That might be like 1 million USA views during this tracking week lol that's not gonna do much. Anyway, if it stays where it is on iTunes now and doesn't start dropping, it will sell about 400k. That would mean that, with the 15M-20M airplay it will have, it will need about 8 million USA streams (which will surely happen if the channel drops the video within the next couple of days, given the huge success of the movie and song). However, who is to say that it will hold where it is in sales? During the weekdays, there are much less people going to the movies so it would probably follow that the song will be selling less than it did on the weekend unless it's getting some sort of massive promotion outside of the movie. Also, even if it does hold up in sales for the rest of the week, if the video does not appear on YouTube then with the lack of streaming and airplay even 400k sales will not be enough to dethrone UF this week. The video is on Youtube. Unless there is another video I haven't seen  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 15:39:20 GMT -5
That might be like 1 million USA views during this tracking week lol that's not gonna do much. Anyway, if it stays where it is on iTunes now and doesn't start dropping, it will sell about 400k. That would mean that, with the 15M-20M airplay it will have, it will need about 8 million USA streams (which will surely happen if the channel drops the video within the next couple of days, given the huge success of the movie and song). However, who is to say that it will hold where it is in sales? During the weekdays, there are much less people going to the movies so it would probably follow that the song will be selling less than it did on the weekend unless it's getting some sort of massive promotion outside of the movie. Also, even if it does hold up in sales for the rest of the week, if the video does not appear on YouTube then with the lack of streaming and airplay even 400k sales will not be enough to dethrone UF this week. The video is on Youtube. Unless there is another video I haven't seen You mean the one you mentioned with 665k views? That is the one I'm talking about. Is that the same one that got 28M on Facebook? Because if so then SYA will get practically no help from streaming (and to answer your question in one of your other posts, you're correct that they don't count streams from Facebook, otherwise Iggy's song with J-Hudwould've gotten close to top ten last week). It will need to continue getting dark greens on iTunes and sell 500k at least, which is unlikely, in order to dethrone UF (unless as you said there's a video that we haven't seen on YouTube or if one gets uploaded and gets many views which won't happen if the 665k is the only one). That being said, if SYA doesn't have decent streaming then it looks like UF has a pretty good chance at a 15th week. |
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Post by Libra on Apr 7, 2015 15:40:29 GMT -5
If it came out even a few weeks ago, months ago or whatever, UF wouldnt have even gotten this far. A few months ago is too far back to guess at...but, a few weeks ago? You mean when UF was even bigger than it is currently? If anything, it would've been that much harder for SYA to catch it. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 7, 2015 16:11:31 GMT -5
"Uptown Funk!" may actually be down to #5 in sales at the moment because of Flo Rida's 2 versions.
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Post by Gary on Apr 7, 2015 16:14:45 GMT -5
"Uptown Funk!" may actually be down to #5 in sales at the moment because of Flo Rida's 2 versions. Mark G has not posted in this thread in like 30 minutes or so, he may have found something else to do.  If he were here, he would say, let's wait and see if it holds up the rest of this week, even if it doesn't superior streaming and airplay will keep Uptown Funk at #1 for a 15th week. Did I get that right? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 16:16:43 GMT -5
"Uptown Funk!" may actually be down to #5 in sales at the moment because of Flo Rida's 2 versions. Probably not lol UF's second version isn't too far below the top 100 so it covers the difference. Sugar, however, is ahead of UF. It is at about 32% of the two versions of SYA combined (SYA also has a second version in the top 100). |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 7, 2015 16:55:44 GMT -5
"Uptown Funk!" may actually be down to #5 in sales at the moment because of Flo Rida's 2 versions. Probably not lol UF's second version isn't too far below the top 100 so it covers the difference. Sugar, however, is ahead of UF. It is at about 32% of the two versions of SYA combined (SYA also has a second version in the top 100). The other version of UF is #113, that's like slightly less than 2% in popbars. Flo Rida's 2nd version is #98 so it's ahead. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 16:56:57 GMT -5
Probably not lol UF's second version isn't too far below the top 100 so it covers the difference. Sugar, however, is ahead of UF. It is at about 32% of the two versions of SYA combined (SYA also has a second version in the top 100). The other version of UF is #113, that's like slightly less than 2% in popbars. Flo Rida's 2nd version is #98 so it's ahead. Lol no #113 is probably more than 3%...#100 is at 3.75% |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:12:31 GMT -5
Urban hit spot? Say whaaaat? Because Wiz Khalifa is a black rapper? "See You Again" is not an "urban hit." No, because it's in the Hip-Hop/Rap category on iTunes. Just for the record, not all rap = hip-hop. See: Pitbull and Macklemore. With that said, Wiz himself is generally considered hip-hop, but I believe his fanbase skews a bit PBR (so that's a whole other issue in itself); until we see where SYA's airplay rises I don't think it is possible to really classify what category hit it is. Right now the people buying this song can't be identified as anything other than being fans of the F&F franchise...we don't know if they are pop fans, hip-hop fans, sappy tribute song fans**, whatever. I could easily see urban either having a tepid response to this while it takes off on rhythmic, or being late to the party in adding it. **On that note, I will actually cackle a bit if UF doesn't take the record away from a sappy tribute song to departed loved ones...because of another sappy tribute song to departed loved ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:17:43 GMT -5
In the last two updates SYA went from a dark green to a light green to a neutral...could this mean it has peaked? Well except for when it increases again after The Voice performance...if it starts getting the reds then it won't have enough sales for #1...it needs at least about 450k to have a chance.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Apr 7, 2015 17:28:13 GMT -5
In the last two updates SYA went from a dark green to a light green to a neutral...could this mean it has peaked? Well except for when it increases again after The Voice performance...if it starts getting the reds then it won't have enough sales for #1...it needs at least about 450k to have a chance. the voice performance could really push it. I doubt it'll push it over 400k. I'm guessing if stays at a consistent rate it'll be 385k |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 7, 2015 17:40:28 GMT -5
If it came out even a few weeks ago, months ago or whatever, UF wouldnt have even gotten this far. A few months ago is too far back to guess at...but, a few weeks ago? You mean when UF was even bigger than it is currently? If anything, it would've been that much harder for SYA to catch it. Actually a few weeks ago I still think UF was def. vulnerable. For weeks there was *no noteworthy competition. If a movie like FF7 came out say a month ago and SYA had the kind of (or close to the kind of monstrous sales it has now) even if UF was still gaining, it wasn't by a lot (more like by default mode). Plus by now radio and streaming DEF would've been in SYAs court in addition to its sales. I def. think UF still had momentum (esp/ w it close to breaking the record) UP until FF7/SYA came in and it created a ripple effect and just instantly turned a lot of people against UF :/ lol. |
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