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Post by Libra on Apr 15, 2015 14:17:44 GMT -5
I think we'll be seeing the same Top 2 for several weeks.... Even Pop radio is very slow in dropping UF - that's probably the biggest surprise. That means there is still some hope that UF will return to #1 for a 15th week... Billboard doesn't seem to agree with you: Could "Funk" return to No. 1 and further make a play for Carey and Boyz II Men's record? It doesn't look likely. |
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Post by damazz09 on Apr 15, 2015 14:26:33 GMT -5
I Gotta Feeling was barely #1 in its dying weeks. I think it only stayed #1 because of an Oprah performance or something. Either way, the top 5 was extremely close when it got dethroned (which is also why it dropped 1-5.) If I remember correctly, the Oprah performance was the reason I Gotta Feeling bounced back into the top 10 at the end of it's run. I could be wrong though. |
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 15, 2015 14:26:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 14:28:37 GMT -5
That means there is still some hope that UF will return to #1 for a 15th week... Billboard doesn't seem to agree with you: Could "Funk" return to No. 1 and further make a play for Carey and Boyz II Men's record? It doesn't look likely. Not likely =/= impossible  and SYA has been getting a lot of red updates on iTunes pop bars lately |
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Post by trustypepper on Apr 15, 2015 14:31:16 GMT -5
Oh wow, the Oprah flash mob performance. Brings back memories lol.
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Post by Gary on Apr 15, 2015 14:34:20 GMT -5
Billboard doesn't seem to agree with you: Not likely =/= impossible  and SYA has been getting a lot of red updates on iTunes pop bars lately Can we be realistic though? Uptown Funk! is on a downtown decline so to speak. Not too dramatic but consistent with declines corresponding to songs that are this old. See You Again is a hit and is growing. I know you think this is a passing fad and will sink like a rock as soon as the fad fades but, it doesn't look that way. This is a hit, will it be a big hit? How long will it stay on top? Who knows, but it looks like it is still growing, regardless of the hour by hour color updates. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 15, 2015 14:44:10 GMT -5
Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars have nothing to complain about. Uptown Funk will go down as their biggest hit. I bet they care less about chart things than we do |
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 15, 2015 14:44:58 GMT -5
Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars have nothing to complain about. Uptown Funk will go down as their biggest hit. I bet they care less about chart things than we do You're right. They are laughing all the way to the bank. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 15, 2015 14:49:12 GMT -5
Not likely =/= impossible and SYA has been getting a lot of red updates on iTunes pop bars lately Can we be realistic though? Uptown Funk! is on a downtown decline so to speak. Not too dramatic but consistent with declines corresponding to songs that are this old. See You Again is a hit and is growing. I know you think this is a passing fad and will sink like a rock as soon as the fad fades but, it doesn't look that way. This is a hit, will it be a big hit? How long will it stay on top? Who knows, but it looks like it is still growing, regardless of the hour by hour color updates. It's also #3 on iTunes, and should be dethroned from #1 on radio in a week or two |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 15, 2015 16:28:27 GMT -5
Aaand I know you're shining down on me from heaven like so many friends we've lost along the way
Aaand I know eventually we'll be together ONE SWEET DAY...Bye "Uptown Funk"! Yeah, but w/ absolutely no competition in sight (and the song barely first getting going on radio) insane sales (2 weeks in a row...very rare)/streams etc...the 'ultimate' irony if SYA ends up in/around the same place UF is right now and actually becomes the song that's a threat to OSD! lol One thing I dont get is 'why' people get sick a of a song staying on top for so long lol. The only reasonable rationale for that is if you dislike/hate the song. But if you like it (even if you're sick of it, one naturally is gonna root for it to break a 19 year old record). Obviously if you're a fan of the artist whose song is in danger of being toppled, of course you're not gonna want it to lose the record simply cause u like the singer- not so much the song itself. Mariah has put out much better and more memorable songs. I've seen few people who consider OSD to be one of her best/ most memorable songs. Instantly people think of WBT, Fantasy, Hero, ABMB etc..OSD happened to be in an identical situation as UF but didnt have an SYA come out of *nowhere. That's the only difference here. Anyways UF still would've needed 2 more weeks to break the record. It's def. possible it wont stay at #2 for 2 more weeks. Anything can happen in that amount of time (like *SYA) |
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2015 16:29:45 GMT -5
Are there any other digital sales reports? Country songs or something? I can't properly finalize this week's estimates with only the top 3. :(
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Apr 15, 2015 16:53:15 GMT -5
SYA has 25 million views, while UF has 14 mil. and we thought that streaming were close enough.. LOL No... WE didn't think streaming was close. Only a few non-believers kept repeating themselves over and over. |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 15, 2015 17:09:02 GMT -5
Just based on sales *alone, there was no way SYA wasnt getting this lol. The fact its already #1 and barely beginning its rise into orbit on radio and streaming w/ NO competition, like I said, this song reeks from another 10+ week at #1. I dont think BL, Happy, IGF or even UF were as on fire this quickly as SYA is. So, for those of u who hate low turnover you're prob. out of luck.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Apr 15, 2015 17:43:40 GMT -5
I think we'll be seeing the same Top 2 for several weeks.... Even Pop radio is very slow in dropping UF - that's probably the biggest surprise. That means there is still some hope that UF will return to #1 for a 15th week... That's not what I was implying. SYA will be #1 for several weeks and UF will be #2. The gap between the Top 2 and the next challengers is still large. Unless UF really starts to lose radio audience (only 1% this past week), it's still very strong in the other metrics, but SYA will continue because sales and streaming will be solid and airplay is starting to spike. There really isn't a song that's close to breaking that log jam for at least two or three weeks. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 15, 2015 17:45:51 GMT -5
Are there any other digital sales reports? Country songs or something? I can't properly finalize this week's estimates with only the top 3. :(
The Top 30 Digital Country Singles (4/15/2015)*Chart Numbers rounded to nearest thousandth. Place Artist Track Sales Total 1 Sam Hunt Take Your Time 55,000 886,000 2 Little Big Town Girl Crush 43,000 424,000 3 Zac Brown Band Homegrown 41,000 463,000 4 Thomas Rhett Crash And Burn 40,000 40,000 5 Cole Swindell Ain’t Worth The Whiskey 35,000 575,000 More here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j-YzoC_YDkeO_uKeYYoXUFpT6PPTaXeVlagrAD7hLt0/edit?pli=1#gid=0 |
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Post by forg on Apr 15, 2015 17:46:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 17:50:25 GMT -5
Just based on sales *alone, there was no way SYA wasnt getting this lol. The fact its already #1 and barely beginning its rise into orbit on radio and streaming w/ NO competition, like I said, this song reeks from another 10+ week at #1. I dont think BL, Happy, IGF or even UF were as on fire this quickly as SYA is. So, for those of u who hate low turnover you're prob. out of luck. Roar, WANEGBT, etc. were on fire even faster than SYA, yet those clearly didn't last long at the top. It's far too early to predict how long SYA will be #1, but I won't be surprised if it stops after 3-4 weeks at #1. I mean a movie-driven soundtrack single is very unlikely to sell 300k+ per week for as many weeks as Happy, Thrift Shop, Blurred Lines, etc. did it. But if radio picks up quickly I suppose it could be #1 for a while. But it's far too early to be able to tell for sure. So the turnover is not really contingent on how quickly a particular song takes off as evident by Roar, WANEGBT, etc. lol and I wouldn't be so sure about the competition. SUAD has been very steadily gaining in all three components lately so it could pose a threat within the next few weeks. Or something else could come out unexpectedly as SYA did and before we know it we have a new #1 |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 15, 2015 18:22:40 GMT -5
But the lead single from someone like Taylor or Katy would be expected to soar up the charts. The songs were heavily hyped for weeks and everyone was expecting them to smash. I don't think anyone in the industry saw SYA's rise coming. You can't compare the lead single from one of the biggest pop stars in the world to a song by a B-list rapper and virtually unknown singer recorded for a movie not really known for its soundtrack.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 15, 2015 18:34:57 GMT -5
I Gotta Feeling was barely #1 in its dying weeks. I think it only stayed #1 because of an Oprah performance or something. Either way, the top 5 was extremely close when it got dethroned (which is also why it dropped 1-5.) Didn't "OSD" also drop 1-5? I think that was partly due to the deleted commercial single, but I am wondering how many of the 14 week #1s had a decent fall from #1. What is the record for weeks in the top 3? |
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Apr 15, 2015 18:38:34 GMT -5
Worth It rises this week to a new peak 41-39, making it the highest peaking by Fifth Harmony
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Post by rimetm on Apr 15, 2015 18:43:09 GMT -5
Source please? I was hoping for it to happen, but I do want to make sure it's true first.
As for drops for 14-weekers:
I Will Always Love You fell 1-2 on 3/6/1993.
I'll Make Love to You fell 1-4 on 12/3/1994.
Macarena fell 1-4 on 11/9/1996.
Candle in the Wind 1997 fell 1-3 on 1/17/1998.
We Belong Together fell 1-2 on 7/2/2005, returned 2-1 on 7/9/2005, and fell 1-4 on 9/17/2005.
I Gotta Feeling fell 1-5 on 10/17/2009.
Uptown Funk fell 1-2 on 4/25/2015.
1-2 isn't too unusual, though 1-4 drops are just as likely; I Gotta Feeling was an outlier.
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Apr 15, 2015 18:47:35 GMT -5
Source please? I was hoping for it to happen, but I do want to make sure it's true first. Gary Trust tweeted it |
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Post by allow that on Apr 15, 2015 19:01:05 GMT -5
With all of this talk celebrating the end of Mark Ronson's reign of terror, I forgot to celebrate the BEST part of this week's chart. Future classic "Trap Queen" is officially a top 5 single. Top 3 next!  |
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 15, 2015 19:14:28 GMT -5
One thing I dont get is 'why' people get sick a of a song staying on top for so long lol. The only reasonable rationale for that is if you dislike/hate the song. But if you like it (even if you're sick of it, one naturally is gonna root for it to break a 19 year old record).'Obviously if you're a fan of the artist whose song is in danger of being toppled, of course you're not gonna want it to lose the record simply cause u like the singer- not so much the song itself.) No. I like UF. I also like "Thinking Out Loud" and "Sugar." I would've much rather seen all 3 songs spend some time at No. 1 than have UF hog the top spot for 14 straight weeks. I like turnover because I think it makes the chart more interesting/exciting to follow, but I also like turnover because it means multiple songs I like get a chance to shine. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 15, 2015 19:29:24 GMT -5
One thing I dont get is 'why' people get sick a of a song staying on top for so long lol. The only reasonable rationale for that is if you dislike/hate the song. But if you like it (even if you're sick of it, one naturally is gonna root for it to break a 19 year old record).'Obviously if you're a fan of the artist whose song is in danger of being toppled, of course you're not gonna want it to lose the record simply cause u like the singer- not so much the song itself.) No. I like UF. I also like "Thinking Out Loud" and "Sugar." I would've much rather seen all 3 songs spend some time at No. 1 than have UF hog the top spot for 14 straight weeks. I like turnover because I think it makes the chart more interesting/exciting to follow, but I also like turnover because it means multiple songs I like get a chance to shine. All of this. I mean, unless someone truly loves a song/artist, I can't imagine anyone rooting for one song to reign so long. Most people resist stagnation. It's no different than people getting tired of the same people winning Emmys and Grammys all of the time. As you said, it's also nice to 'spread the wealth' a bit. Most people don't only like 1 song that's out, so of course they want to see multiple songs they like get some weeks at the top. |
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Post by badrobot on Apr 15, 2015 19:58:46 GMT -5
Source please? I was hoping for it to happen, but I do want to make sure it's true first. As for drops for 14-weekers: I Will Always Love You fell 1-2 on 3/6/1993. I'll Make Love to You fell 1-4 on 12/3/1994. Macarena fell 1-4 on 11/9/1996. Candle in the Wind 1997 fell 1-3 on 1/17/1998. We Belong Together fell 1-2 on 7/2/2005, returned 2-1 on 7/9/2005, and fell 1-4 on 9/17/2005. I Gotta Feeling fell 1-5 on 10/17/2009. Uptown Funk fell 1-2 on 4/25/2015. 1-2 isn't too unusual, though 1-4 drops are just as likely; I Gotta Feeling was an outlier. Actually, based on that data, UF is the first 14-weeker to end its reign falling 1-2 since Whitney, since WBT rebounded midway. This is all assuming UF doesn't rebound (which it probably won't but hey who knows). |
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Post by Gary on Apr 15, 2015 20:03:55 GMT -5
Uptown Funk is one of only 3 14 weekers to spend 2 weeks at #2. One Sweet Day was in and out of the top two after its #1 stay was over
Longest stays In the top 2
16, "I Gotta Feeling," the Black Eyed Peas, 2009 (14/2)
16, "We Belong Together," Mariah Carey, 2005 (14/2)
16, "One Sweet Day," Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men, 1995 (16/0)
16 "Uptown Funk" Mark Ronson 2015 (14/2)
15, "All About That Bass," Meghan Trainor, 2014 (8/7)
15, "I'll Make Love to You," Boyz II Men, 1994 (14/1)
15, "I Will Always Love You," Whitney Houston, 1992 (14/1)
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 15, 2015 20:49:45 GMT -5
This billboard chart system is a joke. How so? Are you referring to SYA? It sold 319,000 more copies than the No. 2 song and had 10.4 million more streams (largely fueled by its official video, not some random parody/viral video.) The only component in which it's lacking is airplay, and I'm personally glad that isn't weighted any more heavily than it already is. Or is this just another example of "I don't like the songs in the Top 10, therefore the chart is flawed"? The #27 song on mediabase is the #1 song on the hot 100.I just think that airplay should have more weight in the chart formula. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 15, 2015 20:52:41 GMT -5
How so? Are you referring to SYA? It sold 319,000 more copies than the No. 2 song and had 10.4 million more streams (largely fueled by its official video, not some random parody/viral video.) The only component in which it's lacking is airplay, and I'm personally glad that isn't weighted any more heavily than it already is. Or is this just another example of "I don't like the songs in the Top 10, therefore the chart is flawed"? The #27 song on mediabase is the #1 song on the hot 100.I just think that airplay should have more weight in the chart formula. You're only looking at the Pop chart. "See You Again" is actually much lower on the cumulative chart. But usually airplay does count for much more. In this case sales and streaming alike are so unusually high that it decreases the importance of radio more so than a typical #1. However, "See You Again" is basically the greatest gainer of cross format airplay now so this won't even be the case for very long. In most countries, such as the UK, airplay doesn't even count at all so... |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Apr 15, 2015 20:54:19 GMT -5
The only other country that does include airplay in their official chart is Canada.
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