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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 17:10:25 GMT -5
Good news for @markg94. SYA is falling fast on iTunes.
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Post by slamina on May 19, 2015 17:11:30 GMT -5
Haha Someone likes to put words in other people's mouths, I see. Nice try. I didn't say it was pathetic. Just said it seems like a waste of time for a 4th single. I also never said it was ok for "This Summer". That's a brand new single, however, and not a thrown together remix for hype. See the difference? I generally am not a fan of remixes or radio deals. So I suggest you actually ask questions about what people mean before making inaccurate assumptions.
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Post by Kinney on May 19, 2015 17:14:35 GMT -5
Except this remix is pretty distinct from the original? Clearly they put a lot of thought into this single launch, nothing was "thrown together".
And they're treating it as essentially a relaunch of the era, just like with TSGHLAM. There is no difference.
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Post by slamina on May 19, 2015 17:16:33 GMT -5
Bad Blood is not brand new song. It's a remix of a song previously found on the album. This Summer is a brand new song. That's a difference. So sorry. Try not to get so defensive next time k?  |
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Post by Kinney on May 19, 2015 17:19:37 GMT -5
Yea...I'm the defensive one.
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Post by slamina on May 19, 2015 17:22:26 GMT -5
Where did This Summer come into the equation? Interesting on your part to just assume that I thought that deal was ok. Also interesting that you read what I stated as a waste of effort as something "pathetic". Seems like defensive behavior to me. Glad you can acknowledge it.
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Post by Gary on May 19, 2015 17:24:48 GMT -5
I don't think See You Again is quite done. the "falling fast" phenomenon is due to the Voice songs which will be gone soon.
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Post by Kinney on May 19, 2015 17:25:49 GMT -5
Where did This Summer come into the equation? Interesting on your part to just assume that I thought that deal was ok. Also interesting that you read what I stated as a waste of effort as something "pathetic". Seems like defensive behavior to me. Glad you can acknowledge it. A new single from another big artist that coincidentally came out a few days ago, and also had a radio deal. Do you not see that it was a natural connection to make? |
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Post by when the pawn... on May 19, 2015 17:26:32 GMT -5
It's whatever. If her label is trying to sell downloads and generally generate interest in a 4th single off a nearly-5x platinum album (GOD FORBID!) they may need a bit of a 'hook' for people to grab on to since the song is old news to Taylor's fans. That means remixing the song (IMO, it's WAY better with Kendrick on it) and putting together an expensive, star-studded video. It obviously worked - it's #1 on iTunes with a huge lead and buzz is great.
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Post by slamina on May 19, 2015 17:27:23 GMT -5
I agree. See You Again still has a lot life left. It needs a few days for all craziness on iTunes at the moment to settle down.
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Post by lyhom on May 19, 2015 17:41:50 GMT -5
 also Yea...I'm the defensive one. Yea, they're so pathetic trying to do their job and make this single as big as possible. "This Summer's Gonna..." had a radio deal its first day as well, but I guess that was ok? don't remember anyone calling the amount of "bad blood" promo anything more than slightly obsessive tbh also lmao wtf it wouldn't be surprising at all to find out that you only mentioned the new maroon 5 song only because slamina's a maroon 5 stan like I get your point but I can see how it can be seen as desperate |
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Post by Kinney on May 19, 2015 17:46:10 GMT -5
I actually mentioned Summer because I saw crystal's post and they mentioned Sugar's remix. As hard as it may be to believe, I was already replying in the quick reply box before Slamina had posted.
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Post by lyhom on May 19, 2015 17:49:14 GMT -5
ah okay then
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Post by crystalphnx on May 19, 2015 17:52:29 GMT -5
I actually mentioned Summer because I saw crystal's post and they mentioned Sugar's remix. Aw hellll to the no @ me getting blamed/dragged into this defensive bickering ;) #kiddingbutnotkidding The exchange aside, slamina did make a good point about SYA. BB is absolutely slaying iTunes right now, and I really hope it makes it to No. 1 on the Hot 100, but SYA isn't exactly disappearing. Those Voice tracks won't have any longevity, neither will Luke I imagine, and SYA is still well ahead of SUAD (the next song that's actually a Hot 100 hit.) |
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Post by wjr15 on May 19, 2015 17:55:45 GMT -5
Who cares who mentioned which song. Both had radio deals. The End.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 18:12:40 GMT -5
Good news for @markg94. SYA is falling fast on iTunes. You jinxed it :( lol also Bad Blood got a red...I hope this isn't the way it's going to go! It's only Tuesday, the second day of the tracking week... |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 19:09:33 GMT -5
Guess I can put away the popcorn now... Good news for @markg94. SYA is falling fast on iTunes. You jinxed it :( also Bad Blood got a red...I hope this isn't the way it's going to go! It's only Tuesday, the second day of the tracking week... Highly doubt I did, but OK... Yeah, definitely hope the remix isn't stopping now. |
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Post by Libra on May 19, 2015 19:57:07 GMT -5
I actually mentioned Summer because I saw crystal's post and they mentioned Sugar's remix. Aw hellll to the no @ me getting blamed/dragged into this defensive bickering ;) #kiddingbutnotkidding The exchange aside, slamina did make a good point about SYA. BB is absolutely slaying iTunes right now, and I really hope it makes it to No. 1 on the Hot 100, but SYA isn't exactly disappearing. Those Voice tracks won't have any longevity, neither will Luke I imagine, and SYA is still well ahead of SUAD (the next song that's actually a Hot 100 hit.) Luke will hang around for a bit - he's actually performing the song tonight on The Voice (might have already; I don't have it on), so if anything he'll see a continued boost. After this his longevity will probably be limited to the Top 100 at best - likely the upper half since he's currently Country's biggest star; he just won't be threatening the top after this. |
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Post by imbondz on May 19, 2015 22:01:01 GMT -5
I wonder if Sawyer can climb to #1 at iTunes since he just won the Voice.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 20, 2015 1:28:04 GMT -5
Kworb saying Bad Blood sold 36K, is that from the few hours it got Sunday night? I think with that and the radio it has up until today it could re enter this week. David Guetta getting another top 10 today and Fifth Harmomy their first top 20, I'm guessing!  |
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Post by slw84 on May 20, 2015 5:22:33 GMT -5
Wow, almost all of these #1's took place in the last 5 years. Yes, which is kinda ridiculous given that most Max Martin fans would tell you that his real peak was in the last half of the 90's into the very early 00's. His peak in quality pop songs perhaps...a top 10 peak of his 90s hits doesn't make it lesser in quality. |
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Post by Kris on May 20, 2015 5:53:48 GMT -5
TOP 10
1. THE WEEKND - Earned It: 193.849 (- 1.687)
2. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 181.725 (+ 3.046)
3. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 165.102 (+ 1.103)
4. ELLIE GOULDING - Love Me Like You Do: 146.001 (- 2.501)
5. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 141.370 (+ 2.488)
6. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 129.982 (- 2.517)
7. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 124.344 (- 2.423)
8. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style: 112.184 (- 1.307)
9. NATALIE LA ROSE - Somebody f/Jeremih: 91.637 (- 3.368)
10. ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 88.241 (- 0.721)
11. FETTY WAP - Trap Queen: 87.218 (- 0.382)
12. TOVE LO - Talking Body: 78.129 (+ 1.825) ▲
13. DAVID GUETTA - Hey Mama f/N. Minaj & Afrojack: 78.126 (+ 0.992) ▼
14. ARIANA GRANDE – One Last Time: 72.889 (- 3.546) ▼
15. OMARION - Post To Be f/Chris Brown&Jhene: 71.902 (+ 0.536)
16. DJ SNAKE & ALUNAGEORGE - You Know You Like It: 69.913 (+ 1.143) ▲
17. NICK JONAS - Chains: 69.510 (- 0.743) ▼
18. A THOUSAND HORSES - Smoke: 66.986 (+ 0.036) ▲
19. BILLY CURRINGTON - Don't It: 68.643 (+ 0.252) ▼
20. TAYLOR SWIFT - Blank Space: 65.715 (- 1.141) ▲
CURIOSIDADES
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Sippin' On Fire: 63.762 (+ 0.052)
ANDY GRAMMER - Honey, I'm Good: 58.073 (+ 1.656)
KENNY CHESNEY - Wild Child w/Grace Potter: 55.427
GEORGE EZRA - Budapest: 51.770 (+ 0.137)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Little Toy Guns: 48.752 (+ 0.969)
EASTON CORBIN - Baby Be My Love Song: 44.987
BLAKE SHELTON - Sangria: 44.815 (+ 1.237)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Dear Future Husband: 44.420 (+ 0.025)
ECHOSMITH - Bright: 43.031 (+ 0.438)
LITTLE BIG TOWN - Girl Crush: 41.607 (+ 0.150)
RIHANNA - Bitch Better Have My Money: 38.916 (+ 0.119)
FIFTH HARMONY - Worth It f/Kid Ink: 37.525 (+ 0.977)
MAROON 5 - This Summer's Gonna Hurt...: 33.091 (+ 5.033)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood f/Kendrick Lamar: 30.622 (+ 6.834)
NICKI MINAJ - The Night Is Still Young: 27.129 (+ 1.159)
SKRILLEX & DIPLO - Where Are U Now w/J. Bieber: 25.541 (+ 0.486)
SIA - Elastic Heart: 24.877 (+ 0.764)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 24.829 (+ 0.541)
CIARA - I Bet: 24.781 (- 0.193)
PITBULL - Fun f/Chris Brown: 22.590 (+ 0.367)
THOMAS RHETT - Crash And Burn: 15.706 (+ 0.078)
ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 14.057 (+ 1.314)
MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 13.355 (+ 0.348)
BRITNEY SPEARS & IGGY AZALEA - Pretty Girls: 13.211 (- 0.001)
ADAM LAMBERT - Ghost Town: 10.176 (+ 0.009)
CARLY RAE JEPSEN - I Really Like You: 9.432 (+ 0.217)
MARIAH CAREY - Infinity: 3.880 (- 0.071)
KELLY CLARKSON - Invincible: 1.539 (+ 0.242)
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 7:39:49 GMT -5
Bad Blood has been getting some reds in iTunes updates. If it slows down and stays at the level it is at (I hope that will be the case), it should sell 350k-400k. The video is at 29M views (not sure if that's the most updated). I think a top 5 re-entry is inevitable for this song, even if it does crash. IIRC the last top 10 re-entry was "Cruise" when the remix came out and that was more than 2 years ago. I'm counting on you, Taylor, to get that #1..
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Post by Mikel Echarri on May 20, 2015 7:46:16 GMT -5
Bad Blood has been getting some reds in iTunes updates. If it slows down and stays at the level it is at (I hope that will be the case), it should sell 350k-400k. The video is at 29M views (not sure if that's the most updated). I think a top 5 re-entry is inevitable for this song, even if it does crash. IIRC the last top 10 re-entry was "Cruise" when the remix came out and that was more than 2 years ago. I'm counting on you, Taylor, to get that #1.. Top 5? Top 2 is 100% GUARANTEED RIGHT NOW, the thing is if next week it will re-enter (in the case it don't do it this week) at #1. With great sales and streaming I think is possible (considering that SYA is still big) |
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Post by imbondz on May 20, 2015 8:03:25 GMT -5
It'd be a huge surprise to me if Bad Blood isn't #1 next week.
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Post by Kris on May 20, 2015 8:05:36 GMT -5
This is why it's pointless to guarantee songs any X amount of weeks at #1. People said UF would break the record and then bam it was out of contention. Now SYA is still massive and it could be dropped next week.
Nothing's set in stone.
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Post by wjr15 on May 20, 2015 8:12:20 GMT -5
Looks like Talking Body, Hey Mama, and You Know You Like It have a good chance of going Top 10 on radio. 8 out of the top 11 songs are falling. Radio is getting ready for its summer smashes
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Post by Clauss on May 20, 2015 9:28:31 GMT -5
BS top 20 still ;(
BB slaying, tomorrow we get an estimation in Kworb for next week?
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Post by rimetm on May 20, 2015 9:39:46 GMT -5
OK, time for some data. Here's how the last major surge-based #1s topped:
See You Again
464,000 sales
25 million streams
24 million audience impressions
60% lead in points
Blank Space
328,000 sales
19.2 million streams
70 million audience impressions
[We don't have lead info]
Shake it Off
544,000 sales
18.4 million streams
71 million audience impressions
[We don't have lead info]
Now, I'm not certain on Bad Blood's stats, but it seems to be something like this?
Bad Blood
Between 300,000 and 400,000 sales
Between 10 and 20 million streams
Less than 60 million audience impressions by Sunday
I wouldn't quite call June 6th in the bag. See You Again is still pulling in something like this.
See You Again (now)
Between 180,000 and 220,000 sales
Between 15 and 25 million streams
Around 185 million audience impressions (adjusted for Billboard)
Yes, sales are weak, but streams could be more consistent and radio is of course the biggest hurdle.
Alternatively, let's consider how the #2s (except in Shake's case, where Anaconda also surged) in each of the prior cases were performing.
Uptown Funk!
145,000 sales
14.6 million streams
157 million audience impressions
All About That Bass (Blank's top)
126,000 sales
11.9 million streams
95 million audience impressions
All About That Bass (Shake's top)
283,000 sales
11.6 million streams
64 million audience impressions
The only one of these weeks that the See You Again forecast is notably weaker than is Bass, but that was a weird week. It may have the potential to underperform compared to Uptown's usurped week, but that's only if it majorly underperforms in streaming and sales. There is a good chance it's strong enough to withstand Bad Blood.
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Post by Mikel Echarri on May 20, 2015 10:14:06 GMT -5
^Bad Blood will have more than 20 million streams because the video views are higher than Blank Space's first week. I can't understand how SYA had last week almost as streams as its first week at #1
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