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Post by tamed09 on Aug 27, 2015 13:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by Live Your Life on Aug 27, 2015 13:50:21 GMT -5
She worked with all of the big producers and writers for her debut album as well. I'm actually surprised they're paying for her to do it again since it doesn't really seem like they've made much of a profit from her. They must really believe in her.
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Post by Dreams on Aug 27, 2015 13:59:03 GMT -5
Ohh I'm glad to read about the change in direction for her second album. And I'm not referring to the genre when I say "direction"; in fact I don't care if she does pop, folk, polka whatever-- if her sophomore is NOTHING like her debut I might start to like her. Based on the music she has released so far to me she's nothing but a glorified flop and I don't get the praise at all.
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Post by wavey. on Aug 27, 2015 14:00:30 GMT -5
I think on the 1st page, a poster had said that they probably want her to get hits, while still having the acclaim. Could've sworn "All Hands.." would've been the one. Ohh I'm glad to read about the change in direction for her second album. And I'm not referring to the genre when I say "direction"; in fact I don't care if she does pop, folk, polka whatever-- if her sophomore is NOTHING like her debut I might start to like her. Based on the music she has released so far to me she's nothing but a glorified flop and I don't get the praise at all. olp.
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Post by Live Your Life on Sept 2, 2015 11:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 12:08:23 GMT -5
I wonder what the game plan is here. I'm stoked to get a new album from her (even though it sounds like it will be a few steps back creatively) but do they really think a single is going to blow up this fall?
I feel like this will be pushed back or she'll debut with terrible numbers and less acclaim.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 2, 2015 12:16:11 GMT -5
Alright, Tinashe. I think she is on to something and I am hoping that one of the collabs is with Nick J. Wouldn't surprise me, given how hot their Jealous remix was.
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Post by tamed09 on Sept 2, 2015 13:44:12 GMT -5
It's interesting for sure that RCA would allow this as their urban females usually don't come right back with another record
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 2, 2015 14:09:57 GMT -5
RCA's swinging hard for the fences with this one; hope it pays off. I don't think Aquarius even scanned 100k, which is criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 14:13:40 GMT -5
Wow, lead single next week - feels like that came together extremely quickly. This is either about to get the hugest push ever or flounder terribly. I sense no in between.
I could be wrong on this, but I looked at RCA's roster and it doesn't look like they have a lot of 4th quarter releases planned - just Miley, Chris Brown, and I think Alicia. So there's a decent chance that RCA is actually committed to Tinashe's project both in $$ and time...she doesn't have a lot of people to compete with for attention and the label hasn't had any other real wins this year, so I would think they are keen to try to make up for that and wouldn't be burning money on someone they didn't believe in. Maybe. Hoping I'm not getting carried away with wishful thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 0:33:45 GMT -5
Why is nobody talking about how hot the instrumental in that teaser is?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 3, 2015 7:26:43 GMT -5
I hope we're not in for Katy & Taylor rejects.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 8:30:54 GMT -5
I hope we're not in for Katy & Taylor rejects. I find it interesting that even with her doing all these tracks with Luke and Max, her lead is produced by Boi 1da. Tinashe isn't Ciara, that is I don't think she has enough of her own money stacked up to pay extra for certain producers; pretty sure RCA footed the bill on this one. So I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means...something.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 3, 2015 8:57:18 GMT -5
I hope we're not in for Katy & Taylor rejects. I find it interesting that even with her doing all these tracks with Luke and Max, her lead is produced by Boi 1da. Tinashe isn't Ciara, that is I don't think she has enough of her own money stacked up to pay extra for certain producers; pretty sure RCA footed the bill on this one. So I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means...something. Ciara's lead single wasn't Dr. Luke either. For what it's worth, I hope Tinashe didn't just get whatever these Pop producers threw her way and actually WORKED with them to create material.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 10:30:28 GMT -5
I find it interesting that even with her doing all these tracks with Luke and Max, her lead is produced by Boi 1da. Tinashe isn't Ciara, that is I don't think she has enough of her own money stacked up to pay extra for certain producers; pretty sure RCA footed the bill on this one. So I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means...something. Ciara's lead single wasn't Dr. Luke either. For what it's worth, I hope Tinashe didn't just get whatever these Pop producers threw her way and actually WORKED with them to create material. Yeah, the reason I find the Boi-1da lead interesting is because I couldn't think of the last time Dr. Luke and Max did any work for someone's album and didn't get the lead single. Ciara's an exception, but since she ponied up the money that kind of explains it. Labels OTOH are looking to recoup their money as soon as possible. Since those two are usually so expensive, they usually get the lead single with the idea that the promotional investment will make the song do at least well enough to earn their money back there. And if there's more than one song it's not uncommon for them to get most or all of the singles. For them to have MULTIPLE songs on Joyride, probably paid for by the label, and yet none of those songs are coming first? That makes me wonder if RCA is about to let this girl sink or if there is so much confidence in this project and how well the singles will carry it that they are saving the big pop guns for later. This might also be a bait-and-switch situation where they don't want to turn off her urban fans right away so instead of giving us the pop songs off the top (see: Usher, Looking 4 Myself) they will ease us into it (again, see: Usher, Raymond v. Raymond). I do have concerns about how quickly this has all come together because that increases the chances of her being handed something that was already lying around. But I know in a previous interview Tinashe was adamant about making sure there was still some of her trademark sound incorporated into the pop hits. I'm like you, I hope she actually got to work with them on the song instead of just write some lyrics, then go in the studio and record them to whatever backing track they had for her. T is unlike just most artists Max and Luke have worked with - certainly not like their usual pop girls - in that she apparently has an idea of how to put an arrangement together herself, so even if her name doesn't officially show up in the production credits there's no reason for her to only be included in the writing.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 3, 2015 10:50:04 GMT -5
Ciara's lead single wasn't Dr. Luke either. For what it's worth, I hope Tinashe didn't just get whatever these Pop producers threw her way and actually WORKED with them to create material. Yeah, the reason I find the Boi-1da lead interesting is because I couldn't think of the last time Dr. Luke and Max did any work for someone's album and didn't get the lead single. Ciara's an exception, but since she ponied up the money that kind of explains it. Labels OTOH are looking to recoup their money as soon as possible. Since those two are usually so expensive, they usually get the lead single with the idea that the promotional investment will make the song do at least well enough to earn their money back there. And if there's more than one song it's not uncommon for them to get most or all of the singles. For them to have MULTIPLE songs on Joyride, probably paid for by the label, and yet none of those songs are coming first? That makes me wonder if RCA is about to let this girl sink or if there is so much confidence in this project and how well the singles will carry it that they are saving the big pop guns for later. This might also be a bait-and-switch situation where they don't want to turn off her urban fans right away so instead of giving us the pop songs off the top (see: Usher, Looking 4 Myself) they will ease us into it (again, see: Usher, Raymond v. Raymond). I do have concerns about how quickly this has all come together because that increases the chances of her being handed something that was already lying around. But I know in a previous interview Tinashe was adamant about making sure there was still some of her trademark sound incorporated into the pop hits. I'm like you, I hope she actually got to work with them on the song instead of just write some lyrics, then go in the studio and record them to whatever backing track they had for her. T is unlike just most artists Max and Luke have worked with - certainly not like their usual pop girls - in that she apparently has an idea of how to put an arrangement together herself, so even if her name doesn't officially show up in the production credits there's no reason for her to only be included in the writing. Interesting point about the producer/coin aspect. I guess we'll have to wait and see how RCA handles all of this.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Sept 3, 2015 11:03:51 GMT -5
I find it interesting that even with her doing all these tracks with Luke and Max, her lead is produced by Boi 1da. Tinashe isn't Ciara, that is I don't think she has enough of her own money stacked up to pay extra for certain producers; pretty sure RCA footed the bill on this one. So I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means...something. Ciara's lead single wasn't Dr. Luke either. For what it's worth, I hope Tinashe didn't just get whatever these Pop producers threw her way and actually WORKED with them to create material. Maroon 5 didn't release a Max Martin first single from V and he executive produced that album. Neither did Shakira or Fifth Harmony with their Dr. Luke productions. Her label probably wanted to feel out the Urban audience first before going full on pop with a release so she can still have that audience to fall back on.
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Post by Ky on Sept 4, 2015 12:48:05 GMT -5
I think we're in for a treat. Can't wait to hear Party Favors.
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Post by Zinc. on Sept 9, 2015 15:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Sept 9, 2015 17:30:13 GMT -5
It's no Cold Sweat
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 9, 2015 18:19:44 GMT -5
Has it been explicitly stated that 'Party Favors' is the lead single, or did everyone just assume when Tinashe said it was the first song from the album we were getting?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 22:02:24 GMT -5
Has it been explicitly stated that 'Party Favors' is the lead single, or did everyone just assume when Tinashe said it was the first song from the album we were getting? On re-reading her interview, I'm thinking it's the latter. "First taste of the album" doesn't necessarily mean "first single." That said, the song has a cool vibe but very much sounds like an album intro. Urban is a bit unpredictable regarding when and from whom they accept their ratchet fix, so while this doesn't exactly scream 'radio smash' I also wouldn't rule it out as an eventual hit there. Definitely not made for CHR though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 22:07:13 GMT -5
This is pretty good actually, but yeah, CHR won't touch this. It lays to rest a lot of the concerns about what direction she was headed in for this album, so that's good.
The pre-chorus is bonkers. Who wrote this?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 22:46:18 GMT -5
That's still her best song.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 10, 2015 8:43:32 GMT -5
Party Favors is bomb. I need more.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Sept 12, 2015 1:50:34 GMT -5
She can do way better than this...
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Post by Heart Shaped Box on Sept 15, 2015 23:00:23 GMT -5
Inspiring, exciting, adventure, explosive..... Whatever words she said.... Party Favors is neither one of those
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Post by Rican@ on Sept 16, 2015 14:59:52 GMT -5
Where are we going with this "first song" or "first taste" instead of "first single" for these artists? I know there are buzz tracks, but in this era, I am so confused on how artists are working these songs. I guess we are in that "do whatever" until it sticks or hits
Anyway, "Party Favors" is cute. I actually liked it on first listen while all of her singles (with the exception of "Pretend") had to grow on me, which "2 On" did not hit me until I saw the video of the dude with a cigarette and long weave dancing to it
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Post by Zinc. on Oct 1, 2015 8:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by yuh yuh on Oct 1, 2015 9:38:56 GMT -5
Player with Chris Brown is quite good!
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