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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 23, 2015 0:33:28 GMT -5
Usually not the biggest fan of those types of music videos, but it worked really well in this case and I definitely enjoyed that a lot. I think it fit with the young, fun vibe that Kelsea/this song give off. I loved seeing her in the fireman's hat (that was so cute!) and the scenes at the carnival. <3
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 23, 2015 13:15:55 GMT -5
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 29, 2015 12:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not. Can we stop pretending this website has any credibility to be posted about on here so much? It's like a small step above posting random people's Facebook comments as 'reviews' or something to that effect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 12:11:32 GMT -5
I'm not. Can we stop pretending this website has any credibility to be posted about on here so much? It's like a small step above posting random people's Facebook comments as 'reviews' or something to that effect. Sure I just was shocked that particularly some of the comments. I mean just wow. Um but hey Country Perspective and This Is Country Music are both pretty good websites to check for reviews and there better than Taste Of Country a website that when they review music every artist is special and great in their own way that's vomit inducing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 13:08:59 GMT -5
I'm not. Can we stop pretending this website has any credibility to be posted about on here so much? It's like a small step above posting random people's Facebook comments as 'reviews' or something to that effect. Sure I just was shocked that particularly some of the comments. I mean just wow. Um but hey Country Perspective and This Is Country Music are both pretty good websites to check for reviews and there better than Taste Of Country a website that when they review music every artist is special and great in their own way that's vomit inducing I agree on This Is Country Music! They're the bomb! ;)
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 29, 2015 14:32:19 GMT -5
I'm not. Can we stop pretending this website has any credibility to be posted about on here so much? It's like a small step above posting random people's Facebook comments as 'reviews' or something to that effect. Whatever valid points Trigger has there get lost in the delivery of his criticism of music or that everything that's released should be released wtih a 'reference' to what happened in the past, etc.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 29, 2015 15:30:24 GMT -5
I'm not. Can we stop pretending this website has any credibility to be posted about on here so much? It's like a small step above posting random people's Facebook comments as 'reviews' or something to that effect. Whatever valid points Trigger has there get lost in the delivery of his criticism of music or that everything that's released should be released wtih a 'reference' to what happened in the past, etc. Wow. I have never heard so harsh of comments said about a song like I have about this one. How arrogant can he get. Plus the words that he used, doesn't sound like he should be allowed to talk about music at all. I understand that everybody is not gonna like every song that comes out. Everybody has different music tastes, But these comments have gone way too far. Reading this made me mad just bye the ignorant comments and words he used. He could've said I don't like this song it's not catchy to me and it's boring. These words would be acceptable. :(
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Post by Kat5Kind on Oct 29, 2015 16:31:08 GMT -5
I absolutely can not stand Trigger or that site in general. Way too over the top.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 16:49:01 GMT -5
I certainly enjoy Saving Country Music for news stories and finding out new artists (and when it comes to news and think pieces, I feel he's really good), but the rants can admittedly get a little "out there". I hate this song and all, but even as a fan of SCM, there were some points that shouldn't have been there (although I will agree she's a Swift wannabe)
Edit: Actually, another note in regard to the comments, it makes me sad as a fan of independent country music/Americana for people to see commenters at SCM And think that that's what we are. Ignorant fans who say comments like that are just as bad as fans who think that Sam Hunt is country. Ignorant independent and mainstream fans are another (somewhat hidden) reason why this genre has divided as much as it has and why it has the problems it has.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 11:38:33 GMT -5
Now, I'm no avid chart watcher, nor do I know how this system works, but would I be wrong in saying this appears to be struggling?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 22, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5
Now, I'm no avid chart watcher, nor do I know how this system works, but would I be wrong in saying this appears to be struggling? It's not doing great but its doing fine for right now. "Dibs" has been helped by Westwood One, so it's gained 3.0 million in audience this week even though its spin increase was less than 100. It's gained 400 spins and nearly 6.0 million in audience the past three weeks. It's not "struggling."
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 22, 2015 16:12:54 GMT -5
Now, I'm no avid chart watcher, nor do I know how this system works, but would I be wrong in saying this appears to be struggling? It's not doing great but its doing fine for right now. "Dibs" has been helped by Westwood One, so it's gained 3.0 million in audience this week even though its spin increase was less than 100. It's gained 400 spins and nearly 6.0 million in audience the past three weeks. It's not "struggling."Not to self: Don't do this while out shopping -- stupidity ensues. I forgot about yesterday's reflection of the recent panel change. Anyway, "Dibs" gained 230 spins and 2.0 million in audience the two weeks before the panel change, so this one is not doing terribly. Is it doing great? No. But it's doing fine for a song that is in this position in the teens. Its sales have continued to be good and the research has improved as the chart run has gone along with slowly decreasing dislike. "Dibs" is going to be far from a big hit but I see no reason why Black River can't get this to a top 5 peak.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 17:02:51 GMT -5
I think this one suffers from being about nothing and sounding too similar to her debut.
Also I'm going to respectfully disagee that sales have been good. They've been fairly in line with Blake Shelton's "Gonna" and sales for that one have been decidedly bad. It's all relative. I'd say average sales for this one.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 22, 2015 17:17:42 GMT -5
I think this one suffers from being about nothing and sounding too similar to her debut. Also I'm going to respectfully disagee that sales have been good. They've been fairly in line with Blake Shelton's "Gonna" and sales for that one have been decidedly bad. It's all relative. I'd say average sales for this one. The only problem is that the sales have leveled off and haven't improved, but "Dibs" sold better than its airplay from the time it entered the MB top 50 until it hit the top 25. Comparing it to a format superstar's song isn't the world's best comparison if you ask me. I never said they were amazing or anything -- just good enough for the label to peak radio's interest to convert the song. This was a safe and predictable single choice that right now is in line to reach the top 10. Now, how radio will react if and when Black River decides to release something like "Peter Pan" remains to be seen and I agree that it would be unwise for Kelsea to continue to release songs like her first two singles, on a consistent basis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 17:22:51 GMT -5
I really hope Kelsea takes a risk and releases either the title track or Peter Pan. Both are very well written and fit into the nice pop-country that sounds pleasant on the radio. Both songs also show Kelsea showing a lot more emotion and I think Kelsea has her foot in the door with radio why not release something like Peter Pan.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 23, 2015 22:00:25 GMT -5
Decline in airplay this week. I think this song is very similar to Love Me Like You Mean It only a bit more overbearing and annoying (i.e., the talking parts and the over-forced twang). I can see how it'd burn on a lot of people.
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Post by Marv on Nov 24, 2015 17:37:27 GMT -5
Historically speaking it's doing fine in this bro-country era and her label execs know that very well; I find it to be a very delectable follow-up to 2015,S biggest debut single, and I'm certainly looking forward to watching it continue to rise on the chart as it heads for the top ten.
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 24, 2015 19:03:08 GMT -5
This is doing amazingly well when you consider this is the first time a new female artist has had back-to-back Top 20 hits to start out her career since Carrie Underwood.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 19:35:39 GMT -5
I'm confused as to why people seem to think this is doing well. I do think the moment Big & Rich and Parmalee fall off will help Kelsea but today's update wasn't good at all. Up a measly 4 spins and lost 105K in audience. Now I won't say Kelsea is necessarily struggling right now but it feels like she's not moving the needle at all with this release as I still consider the sales to be meh. Kelsea Ballerini needs to make sure that the competition below (Randy, Granger, Brad, Zac Brown Band, Luke & Karen and Eric Church) doesn't pass her before the holiday freeze comes in cause I imagine if it does Kelsea could really be set back as Luke & Karen are screaming up the chart along with Eric Church and if Granger catches another solid week he'll be knocking on Kelsea's doorstep. Kelsea has a wide enough gap and her song is young enough to there's nothing to really worry about (20 weeks) but Kelsea has to start gaining soon since it feels like she's stuck in that 15-18 range for who knows how long now. That's my intake on the situation.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 24, 2015 19:45:27 GMT -5
I'm confused as to why people seem to think this is doing well. I do think the moment Big & Rich and Parmalee fall off will help Kelsea but today's update wasn't good at all. Up a measly 4 spins and lost 105K in audience. Now I won't say Kelsea is necessarily struggling right now but it feels like she's not moving the needle at all with this release as I still consider the sales to be meh. Kelsea Ballerini needs to make sure that the competition below (Randy, Granger, Brad, Zac Brown Band, Luke & Karen and Eric Church) doesn't pass her before the holiday freeze comes in cause I imagine if it does Kelsea could really be set back as Luke & Karen are screaming up the chart along with Eric Church and if Granger catches another solid week he'll be knocking on Kelsea's doorstep. Kelsea has a wide enough gap and her song is young enough to there's nothing to really worry about (20 weeks) but Kelsea has to start gaining soon since it feels like she's stuck in that 15-18 range for who knows how long now. That's my intake on the situation. This single was never really about being a huge monster hit IMO. I think the label would have been a little delusional if they truly though that. This song was released simply to try and sustain some of Kelsea's momentum and keep her name fresh in the country radio listener's minds, and its doing exactly that. It's not going to be a huge hit, but neither were some other songs for current B-list artists. Justin Moore didn't exactly have a smash radio hit following up "Small Town USA". While Brett Eldredge had some solid hits, "Beat Of The Music" nor "Mean To Me" were songs of the year. Frankie finished his album with "Young & Crazy". All Kelsea needs to do is stay on the radio with the 2nd and 3rd single, and then come back with a big time lead single for her next album.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 24, 2015 19:57:21 GMT -5
I'm confused as to why people seem to think this is doing well. I do think the moment Big & Rich and Parmalee fall off will help Kelsea but today's update wasn't good at all. Up a measly 4 spins and lost 105K in audience. Now I won't say Kelsea is necessarily struggling right now but it feels like she's not moving the needle at all with this release as I still consider the sales to be meh. Kelsea Ballerini needs to make sure that the competition below (Randy, Granger, Brad, Zac Brown Band, Luke & Karen and Eric Church) doesn't pass her before the holiday freeze comes in cause I imagine if it does Kelsea could really be set back as Luke & Karen are screaming up the chart along with Eric Church and if Granger catches another solid week he'll be knocking on Kelsea's doorstep. Kelsea has a wide enough gap and her song is young enough to there's nothing to really worry about (20 weeks) but Kelsea has to start gaining soon since it feels like she's stuck in that 15-18 range for who knows how long now. That's my intake on the situation. I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from because I think it's pretty freakin' clear, but I'll break it down for you: 1. "Love Me Like You Mean It" - #1 hit 2. "Dibs" - #15 (so far) compared to: Jana Kramer 1. "Why Ya Wanna" - #3 2. "Whiskey" - #25 Kacey Musgraves: 1. "Merry Go 'Round" - #10 2. "Blowin' Smoke" - #23 Cassadee Pope: 1. "Wasting All These Tears" - #10 2. "I Wish I Could Break Your Heart" - #32 Sunny Sweeney: 1. "From a Table Away" - #10 2. "Staying's Worse Than Leaving" - #38 RaeLynn: 1. "God Made Girls" - #16 2. "For a Boy" - #58 Danielle Bradbery: 1. "The Heart of Dixie" - #12 2. "Young in America" - #49 ..... and there may be some other examples I'm forgetting, but you should get the idea. Point is, you have to compare this to singles that it should be compared to, so considering that this is the follow-up to a female artist's debut single that was the first to start out w/ a #1 hit in a decade, that is also in the Top 15 currently, yet another feat that has not been accomplished in 10 years, this is doing perfectly fine. If you're saying this isn't doing that well because you're comparing it to all the male artists who are already established or are further along than her, then you aren't doing it right. The fact that this is Top 15 at all is a huge success for her and her record label, especially considering it's gotten there in 4 months time (it's in roughly the same chart neighborhood as "I Got the Boy" and that's been charting about 6 months longer). Sales-wise it's also done decently and it started off selling better than its airplay as sabre14 mentioned above, though it's tapered off lately (not totally uncommon -- the same thing happened to "Girl in a Country Song," i.e.). Short version: Kelsea Ballerini is doing better than any other new female has since Carrie Underwood and the fact that this is Top 15 is a huge relative success.
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Post by bigfan101 on Nov 24, 2015 20:44:40 GMT -5
indulge is 100% accurate. This is not going to be huge, but it will keep Kelsea on radio and will make it back to top ten which will give her back-to-back top singles to hit the top ten. Can you name THREE females since the turn of the century that has had that happen?? That's why this is a success. It is not Love Me Like You Mean It, but it is still under 20 weeks, being played by EVERY station on MediaBase and keeps her on radio and gives her the opportunity to try something like The First Time or Stilletos for the third single, also, just a reminder...she is still on Black River and this is one of the three biggest hits EVER. So it is all a matter of perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 22:46:16 GMT -5
I agree that what Kelsea has done compared to other females is astonishing. I also think that it is worth noting that the other females may have performed better if they released generic pop-leaning tracks with bro-esque backing beats as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 8:25:43 GMT -5
My confusion was more about how this song is doing right now on the charts. Because it feels like Dibs isn't doing much on the charts like right now. No what Kelsea has achieved is great not a victory for women in country music or the genre but a victory for Kelsea so good for her.
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Post by josh on Nov 25, 2015 9:51:16 GMT -5
This is doing amazingly well when you consider this is the first time a new female artist has had back-to-back Top 20 hits to start out her career since Carrie Underwood. Wouldn't this be the first time since Pickler?
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 25, 2015 10:42:59 GMT -5
This is doing amazingly well when you consider this is the first time a new female artist has had back-to-back Top 20 hits to start out her career since Carrie Underwood. Wouldn't this be the first time since Pickler? 2007: Red High Heels went to #15 while I Wonder did one better. My confusion was more about how this song is doing right now on the charts. Because it feels like Dibs isn't doing much on the charts like right now. No what Kelsea has achieved is great not a victory for women in country music or the genre but a victory for Kelsea so good for her. Also doing it on an independent label like Black River.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 25, 2015 11:12:15 GMT -5
This is doing amazingly well when you consider this is the first time a new female artist has had back-to-back Top 20 hits to start out her career since Carrie Underwood. Wouldn't this be the first time since Pickler? Yeah, that's true. I forgot about Kellie Pickler (shame on me I'm such a big fan, lol) because she hasn't had a hit in years now. :'( She did have a solid start to her career though, that's true. But either way it's been 8 years instead of 10 then which is still an excruciatingly long time. My confusion was more about how this song is doing right now on the charts. Because it feels like Dibs isn't doing much on the charts like right now. No what Kelsea has achieved is great not a victory for women in country music or the genre but a victory for Kelsea so good for her. But the point is that it's doing fine, especially for a new female artist. I know you are no longer a Kelsea Ballerini fan so you always come into her threads looking for a reason to say she's struggling or whatever, but no one can say that this hasn't done well for it to be in the Top 15 for a new female artist. That's practically unheard of over the past 10 years. No one is trying to say that "Dibs" is looking like a total smash hit, so you can stop reading so heavily into it because it's doing perfectly fine.
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Post by Marv on Nov 25, 2015 11:35:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 11:46:08 GMT -5
All I was saying was that it didn't look like it was doing really well right now. That's it ok indulgecountry that's the gist of it. Dibs just doesn't seem to be doing well right now. Ok.
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