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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jan 10, 2016 18:02:17 GMT -5
I don't follow country radio, but it seems to me like Renegade Runaway is perfectly set up to come third. Doesn't she have a history of releasing these anthem type of songs as the third single, a la Before He Cheats and Last Name? That followed by Relapse would be an absolutely perfect set from second single onward to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 18:18:13 GMT -5
I don't follow country radio, but it seems to me like Renegade Runaway is perfectly set up to come third. Doesn't she have a history of releasing these anthem type of songs as the third single, a la Before He Cheats and Last Name? That makes sense, "Renegade Runaway" does seem to be similar to "Before He Cheats," "Last Name," and "Undo It." That said, I think they're going about these singles differently than they ever have before. "Renegade Runaway" would have also been the perfect lead single when you think about "Cowboy Casanova" and "Good Girl" during the previous two album releases, but they obviously went another route this time. It's hard to know what they have planned. For the future singles, I kind of like the idea of releasing tracks one through five in the opposite order. After the lighter first and second singles, "Church Bells" and "Dirty Laundry" are two highlights that would bring some weight to the singles, and "Renegade Runaway" seems like the safest choice should they want to extend the era without risking anything. I would not be opposed to them taking risks, though, and releasing one of "Relapse," "Chaser," or "Choctaw County Affair" to close out the era.
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Post by desertfloods on Jan 10, 2016 18:43:38 GMT -5
Out of all the safe bets as singles, I think Dirty Laundry has the highest potential to be the biggest hit this era. So I really hope they don't follow some unnecessary order and release that so late as 4th single. I'm not sure Church Bells is hard-hitting enough to be in the important 3rd single slot.
But if they are willing to take some risks, Relapse is the one to go. I think it will smash.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 10, 2016 19:09:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is 100% against "Renegade Runaway" as a single? I adore "Before He Cheats", "Good Girl", "Cowboy Casanova", and Carrie's other anthemic up-tempos, but I have almost zero love for "Renegade Runaway". It's not a bad song, I just don't really like it... I pray it isn't a single! I feel like it's way too in-your-face for radio. I just don't think it would connect well with listeners at all... But it seems it's a likely single, dammit. Anyway...
My hope for singles:
1: Smoke Break 2: Heartbeat 3: Church Bells 4: Dirty Laundry 5: Relapse 6: Choctaw County Affair
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 10, 2016 19:27:42 GMT -5
Also, it's been to discussed to death that BA's era being cut short was likely due to TSOML taking over Carrie's life for the second half of 2013. That very well may be true, but I don't see why that should have prevented a 5th single. They could have sent something to radio without Carrie needing to do much of anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 20:06:47 GMT -5
I very highly doubt they do five singles if they wouldn't even do five singles on Blown Away. 99.99% sure Goodman came out with a quote recently that they've got plans for at least 4 more singles, and this was around the time of SB's peak/HB's release, leaving some ambiguity as to whether it was 4 more including or excluding HB. Also, it's been to discussed to death that BA's era being cut short was likely due to TSOML taking over Carrie's life for the second half of 2013. I hope Artista goes five singles deep, but Carrie said they had planned to do the same for the "Play On" era, and that didn't end up panning out.
I think "Church Bells" and "Renegade Runaway" are locks for singles, and I'm crossing my fingers "Dirty Laundry" gets the single treatment somewhere down the line.
I actually like both "Heartbeat" and "Smoke Break" much more than I did when the album came out, because both offer a change of pace for Carrie, and it's nice to see a softer, more down-to-earth side of her. These singles aren't doing as well as I had hoped, but at the very least, I can respect that Artista was going for a different anesthetic this time around.
That said, neither of the singles have done anything for Carrie's momentum, and frankly, I've found both to be uneventful and dull in a live setting.
This era needs a shot in the arm, or at least something to get this era going.
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Post by cufan7 on Jan 11, 2016 1:50:22 GMT -5
Am I the only one is who 100% against "Renegade Runaway" as a single? I adore "Before He Cheats", "Good Girl", "Cowboy Casanova", and Carrie's other anthemic up-tempos, but I have almost zero love for "Renegade Runaway". It's not a bad song, I just don't really like it... I pray it isn't a single! I feel like it's way too in-your-face for radio. I just don't think it would connect well with listeners at all... But it seems it's a likely single, dammit. Anyway... My hope for singles: 1: Smoke Break 2: Heartbeat 3: Church Bells 4: Dirty Laundry 5: Relapse 6: Choctaw County Affair This is my ideal outcome except I'd probably release "Dirty Laundry" next.
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Post by maddkat on Jan 11, 2016 7:03:09 GMT -5
Am I the only one is who 100% against "Renegade Runaway" as a single? I adore "Before He Cheats", "Good Girl", "Cowboy Casanova", and Carrie's other anthemic up-tempos, but I have almost zero love for "Renegade Runaway". It's not a bad song, I just don't really like it... I pray it isn't a single! I feel like it's way too in-your-face for radio. I just don't think it would connect well with listeners at all... But it seems it's a likely single, dammit. Anyway... My hope for singles: 1: Smoke Break 2: Heartbeat 3: Church Bells 4: Dirty Laundry 5: Relapse 6: Choctaw County Affair Agree!! I really hope RR isn't a single, not with DL/CB/CCA sitting there waiting to be released
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 11, 2016 11:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 11, 2016 11:49:52 GMT -5
Carrie is part of this HITS roundtable about the Grammys: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=299144I wish she had been part of the more interesting questions toward the end, but the one about "LTG" was nice.
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Post by adwem on Jan 11, 2016 14:19:07 GMT -5
Chart News @chartnews US certifications (@riaa): @carrieunderwood, Greatest Hits: Decade #1 Platinum (1,000,000).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 11, 2016 14:49:28 GMT -5
^CARRIE UNDERWOOD GREATEST HITS: DECADE #1 January 8, 2016 Platinum ALBUM 19 RECORDINGS LIMITED/ARISTA NASHVILLE
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Post by musicfan134 on Jan 11, 2016 16:27:57 GMT -5
99.99% sure Goodman came out with a quote recently that they've got plans for at least 4 more singles, and this was around the time of SB's peak/HB's release, leaving some ambiguity as to whether it was 4 more including or excluding HB. Also, it's been to discussed to death that BA's era being cut short was likely due to TSOML taking over Carrie's life for the second half of 2013. I hope Artista goes five singles deep, but Carrie said they had planned to do the same for the "Play On" era, and that didn't end up panning out.
I think "Church Bells" and "Renegade Runaway" are locks for singles, and I'm crossing my fingers "Dirty Laundry" gets the single treatment somewhere down the line.
I actually like both "Heartbeat" and "Smoke Break" much more than I did when the album came out, because both offer a change of pace for Carrie, and it's nice to see a softer, more down-to-earth side of her. These singles aren't doing as well as I had hoped, but at the very least, I can respect that Artista was going for a different anesthetic this time around.
That said, neither of the singles have done anything for Carrie's momentum, and frankly, I've found both to be uneventful and dull in a live setting.
This era needs a shot in the arm, or at least something to get this era going.
I don't see them going beyond 4 singles. The only way I see them doing 5 singles is if Carrie wins big at the CMA's, because she will probably be willing to extend the era that finally ended her CMA win drought. Considering that's not likely to happen, I think we'll have the 3rd single around March/April and the 4th single around August/September, the CMA's will come around and crush Carrie's motivation again and that'll be the end of the era. Historically, that's what happened with Play On, and I do see that happening again unless the CMA's magically decide to award Carrie OR the era all of a sudden goes into this unstoppable force a la Some Hearts. (Which at this point the CMA wins is the more likely scenario it seems.) And at this point they don't know what's going to happen. Remember when Carrie said there'd be 6-7 singles off Play On?
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Post by _adriano. on Jan 11, 2016 17:58:01 GMT -5
I don't see them going beyond 4 singles. The only way I see them doing 5 singles is if Carrie wins big at the CMA's, because she will probably be willing to extend the era that finally ended her CMA win drought. Considering that's not likely to happen, I think we'll have the 3rd single around March/April and the 4th single around August/September, the CMA's will come around and crush Carrie's motivation again and that'll be the end of the era. Historically, that's what happened with Play On, and I do see that happening again unless the CMA's magically decide to award Carrie OR the era all of a sudden goes into this unstoppable force a la Some Hearts. (Which at this point the CMA wins is the more likely scenario it seems.) And at this point they don't know what's going to happen. Remember when Carrie said there'd be 6-7 singles off Play On? Honestly, I think CMA's losses have little, if anything, to do with the number of singles past albuns have had. I don't see Carrie and her label sitting down after the CMA's and saying "yeah, let's wrap up this era, since we haven't won any award". It seems to me there are way more things that are taken in consideration by the label, as Dudley has pointed out a couple of times.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 11, 2016 18:26:00 GMT -5
I don't think we can go off Carrie's past eras to predict what will happen this time for a number of different reasons, here's a few:
-Different management -She's a mother -Single choices -Different sound -Different kind of tour
... I think they're going to want "Storyteller" to last as long as possible, Carrie can't be relied upon anymore to spit albums out ever 2-3 years. She'll likely continue working, but I think the length in between albums will increase as she grows older and her family grows. That is one reason I think we'll probably see more singles from "Storyteller". Also, just as a general observation, nothing about this era so far is similar to any of Carrie's past eras. The sound is different, the look is different, the kind of tour is different, and her management is different. I'm fairly certain in saying that after this era Carrie will likely be ready to have kid #2. She has said before she doesn't plan on having another kid anytime soon, but they plan to let nature take its course (aka: they won't try NOT having a kid, lol). The label probably will plan for this by milking "Storyteller" for all its worth; going five or six singles deep. We're in a new chapter now when it comes to Carrie's career, I don't think we'll see albums as frequently as we're used to, and to compensate for that I think the label will release more singles off of Carrie's albums --- so long as they sell well enough to make releasing extra singles worthwhile. So, my point is nothing about this era is similar enough to a previous era to allude that they're going with a similar game-plan to one they've gone with before. Further, Carrie's motherhood changes a lot when it comes to her career, and because length between albums will likely increase, I think the amount of singles per album will increase as well.
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Post by Typo on Jan 11, 2016 18:59:12 GMT -5
Late, but I thought this was a noteworthy tweet. I've also read tweets suggesting she received a mention at his memorial service. Probably meant a lot to Carrie considering she appeared to be a fan of Motörhead. Remember when Carrie said there'd be 6-7 singles off Play On? She said there were 6-7 single choices on Play On.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 11, 2016 20:35:50 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 12, 2016 15:40:27 GMT -5
Article in Billboard Airplay this evening about the genesis of "Heartbeat": “I do it to myself,” she confesses. “Even in writing I’m like, ‘Where’s the money note? Where’s the money note? We need something in there.’ But I started realizing I need songs to give myself a break. I have some really difficult songs, and I have way too much pride to drop the key. So if I want to stop killing myself, in the beginning of the tour at least, I need to stop trying to do [so much].” Interesting. That sort of confirms one of the major criticisms some people have made about her. I do respect this. A lot.
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 12, 2016 21:30:58 GMT -5
Storyteller sold another 9k and GHX1 sold another 6.6k this week.
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Post by cufan7 on Jan 12, 2016 23:47:45 GMT -5
Listening to Adele's album at the moment and realized how much I'd love for Carrie to cover "When We Were Young". Probably up the key. Would love for her to have an Adele-like ballad on an album some day.
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Post by Stephen on Jan 13, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -5
Heartbeat received a 5.9 on TheSinglesJukeboix, a single review site for all types of music. I know it seems low, but given their high standard, the score is actually pretty impressive. Though she received two '2/10's, she also received a '9/10' and three '8/10's for the track, and all highlight how she manages to sell the tenderness and sexuality of the moment. I know most people were against this track, but I actually think this may have been a solid pick and think it'll pay off in the long run.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jan 13, 2016 13:08:13 GMT -5
Heartbeat has slowly become one of my favorite songs on Storyteller. I love its simplicity and soft sensuality.
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Post by maddkat on Jan 13, 2016 17:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 13, 2016 17:52:02 GMT -5
HB is holding well on iTunes, and all naturally, too. It was up in the 50s of the all-genre chart at one point, nearly a week after NYRE. It's currently floating in the 70s and 80s. She's just got to get it out there somehow before the tour starts. Has she ever done pre-tour promo, like on talk shows or something? The video didn't do much of anything, and it could only take one or two live performances...anywhere, and it'd probably give the song some stronger legs.
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Post by Unhinged on Jan 13, 2016 17:57:44 GMT -5
Heartbeat has slowly become one of my favorite songs on Storyteller. I love its simplicity and soft sensuality. Me too! Not to run comparisons here but to me this is her "Breathe" (Faith Hill).
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Post by cufan7 on Jan 14, 2016 1:14:11 GMT -5
Heartbeat has slowly become one of my favorite songs on Storyteller. I love its simplicity and soft sensuality. Me too! Not to run comparisons here but to me this is her "Breathe" (Faith Hill). I will echo this and say that "Heartbeat" hasn't left my head since it has became a single.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Jan 14, 2016 9:39:32 GMT -5
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Post by Stephen on Jan 14, 2016 10:07:14 GMT -5
Carrie's image is being used in the Grammy's "Withess Greatness" campaign. Hoping this all culminates into a performance slot!
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Post by maddkat on Jan 14, 2016 10:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by ant on Jan 14, 2016 10:29:26 GMT -5
I definitely think that means she will be performing. The question is, what will she perform? I am hoping that "Church Bells" single #3 and that's what she will be performing, although I wouldn't be shocked if "Renegade Runaway" is next. Anything but "Heartbeat" please. I love the song, but it's not a great one live.
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