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Post by Lumi on Aug 26, 2018 12:21:38 GMT -5
leaked image of Troye's backup dancers for the Bloom tour
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Post by DJ General on Aug 26, 2018 13:02:54 GMT -5
I don't think yall realize that he wasn't done the album when My My My was out. He was forced to release something for his SNL date. The lead single was always supposed to release in May and would've had a better rollout (maybe) if SNL didn't mess with the schedule. They wanted to finish the app as well. Obviously it could've been earlier, but with BTS, Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande releasing their albums the 3 weeks before, it seems perfectly reasonable. My My My would probably still be being pushed at this time and would've had the chance to be a huge hit. Billboard named it the #6 song of the year so far. Dance To This is likely next since it's still growing but his label is a mess right now. Forced to release?? Uh, then he shouldn't have had a SNL date. Someone else shouldve had it who was ready. The single in January and 8 months later barely any hype is a complete mess. I'm stil excited fr this though
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Aug 29, 2018 14:10:04 GMT -5
Troye Sivan Talks Being a Queer Icon — And Being Labeled a Bottom"I wanted to write music that didn’t feel like — I’m sorry — bullshit. I didn’t want to bullshit anybody." BY DAVEY DAVIS When My, My, My, the lead single from Troye Sivan’s hotly anticipated sophomore album, Bloom, death-dropped into my awareness this past January, I had no idea who the singer was. This, despite the fact that the Australian pop star, only 22 years old at the time, already had another album under his belt — 2015’s Blue Neighborhood — and a devoted international following from his formative years as a YouTube personality. All I knew was that the song — and its video, which stars Sivan, complete with babydoll moue and angelic whisper power-posing in the rain — made me feel like a boyband-worshipping tween again. The f*ggot vaporwave this Millennial had been waiting for had arrived — what a time to be alive and limp-wristed! Wig, etc. But as I mainlined My, My, My and Bloom, the album’s other teaser track, it was hard to shake the worry that my intoxication with the catchy bops, tender lyrics, and boyish sexiness of Sivan himself was grounded in the homonormative ideals that insist on a safely pinkwashed version of male queerness, one that’s young, white, cis, skinny, and not too femme — all of which Sivan undoubtedly is. It’s easy to scorn thoughtless puff pieces about the mythological “Age of the Twink” and debate the discursive stranglehold of movies like Call Me by Your Name within the already narrow plane of representation queer people have; it’s a little trickier to question its embodiment when the marketing campaign hits you right where you live. Sivan is, if nothing else, easy to love. A gay icon is a straight performer who creates a queer sensibility to the delight of their queer fanbase; an icon who happens to be gay can do the same, but never without the considerably harsher intra-community scrutiny of their fellow queers. Though perhaps not yet quite an icon (though this isn’t stopping some from using the word to describe him), Sivan and this most recent album are quintessentially pop in the sense that both feel like a guilty pleasure, because they go down so very smoothly, conforming to conventional standards of appeal so well that we’re almost dismayed by how formulaic our pleasures reveal themselves be. This was the baggage I brought with me to speak with Sivan for them., thereby committing the greatest crime one can in the name of pop music: overthinking it. But asking Sivan to answer for the cultural circumstances that have made him a star is about as useful as denying the joy I take in a song that’s transparently about the art of bottoming. This perspective also ignores Bloom’s merits as the luscious, romantic, and deeply queer music that it is. Sivan has said himself that he wants his fans to admire not an individual song or album, but his full “sensibility.” And at this point, it’s undeniable that his is as thoughtful as it is effortless to enjoy. As an album, Bloom is full of references to flowers and fruit, metaphors for abundance and growth. But because these things are fleeting, it evokes mortality, too — even a sense of urgency. Listening to it reminded made me think of Boy Erased, and of how so many queer youth don’t get to experience their youth because of homo- and transphobia. As a queer person, do you think you have a different relationship to time than straight people do? Before coming out, I remember distinctly feeling like there was a delay on my life. All my friends were doing just dumb stuff that kids do, like making out with people at parties and starting to date, and just, you know, getting their first girlfriend or boyfriend. When we went on leavers (the Australian equivalent of spring break where kids just get messy) I remember feeling ashamed that I just couldn’t feel like I could take part in any of that. I remember everyone was getting hickies, and I pulled my best friend, who’s a girl, into a room and told her that I was devastated because everyone was having all these romantic and sexual experiences for the first time, and I just felt like I was sitting this one out, waiting for something. I was waiting to come out or waiting to find a community of people who were like me. I didn’t know any gay people growing up or any queer people growing up, and so I just really felt alone and kind of lost, and I just wasn’t experiencing life. She was so sweet and gave me a hickey on my neck so I could show it off a little bit to everyone else. It made me feel a little bit better, and also made me feel depressed for myself. And that’s a really real experience, I’m sure, for a lot of queer people. You know, maybe you just wanna take part and feel like a person, and you crave all the things that everyone else craves — community and friendship and kinship and love — when you’re young and queer. It’s really hard to find those things and it really makes you feel lost. I feel like that sense of untimeliness is what gives the album that urgency. You’ve said before that Bloom is a love album, and so while on the one hand it’s very joyful and sexy and personal, I also get the feeling that because you’re coming from this different timeline, it’s also very political. Do you feel that way? Maybe I do feel extra joyous and extra liberated that I’ve found the things I’ve found. My parents have been married for 27 years, and that’s my model in my head. They’re more in love than ever. I look to them as a kind of example of one type of a really healthy, happy relationship, and that’s something I’ve always wanted to find for myself. Growing up, I had no idea where I could even begin to find something like that. Now, to be 23, maybe it’s a little weird to be experiencing these things for the first time, maybe it’s not. I just felt excited to finally be getting the experience of crazy, unabashed love that I’ve always wanted to know and feel. I just wanted to take a second to celebrate that and document it a little bit for myself, so I can look back on it in the future and say, “Wow, I remember exactly how that felt.” It’s like a time capsule. Even though you’re still quite young — you’ve accomplished a lot already — there’s also a lot ahead of you, too. As you’re becoming more established as an actor, do you see your acting becoming as important as your music? I don’t know. I’m definitely more comfortable in music, maybe because I’ve been making music my entire life, professionally for a few years. Acting, for me, is still something that’s scary. There are a lot of unknowns. You put a lot of faith in the people working around you and the people making the movie. I really enjoy the process, and if I can watch the movie back and be proud of myself, and proud of my performance, and proud of the work I’m doing, I’d love to kind of keep going and see where it takes me. At the moment, it’s still the unknown. A lot of the publicity around Bloom is built around that joyousness and openness you mentioned earlier, and about sexuality, too. There’s been a lot of fanfare about the single, “Bloom,” being implicitly about bottoming. I would assume if straight people were listening to it and weren’t familiar with gay sex, they wouldn’t pick up on those nuances. Do you have your queer audiences in mind when you’re writing about those kinds of experiences? I do. A big thing for me with this album is, I wanted to write music that didn’t feel like — I’m sorry — bullshit. I didn’t want to bullshit anybody. I live in this very particular, surreal world where I hang out almost exclusively with queer people. I live 10 minutes from West Hollywood, which is like one of the gayest places in the world. You know, for me, this is really real life, being able to celebrate these things, being able to talk about these things, and just being as open and honest as you want, and I didn’t want to come to this album writing for anyone but me and my friends. I wanted to make an album that I was really proud of, that felt exciting to me, and that felt honest to me, and felt like something that made sense of me. And a big part of that was exploring these themes the way I would amongst friends or whatever. It’s had that effect for people, I think. At least in my own limited experience, it’s very personal for people who relate to you and your aesthetic. I think that’s how you know music is landing with people, when they feel like it’s written for them. It did make me wonder, though, as everyone’s saying, “Troye is a queer icon. He’s a twink icon. He’s a bottom icon” — is that something you strongly identify with personally? Are you like, “That’s me, I’m a bottom, and that’s my sexuality!” or is that reductive?
Completely reductive. Without getting into like any sort of details whatsoever, that was a song I wrote about a particular experience. I’m not branding that as myself forever. It was definitely just writing a song.Is your own music on your sex playlist? No, definitely not, that would be really, really weird. I mean, for me, this music is like the soundtrack of everything, but once it’s out, I actually stop listening to my music. I listen to it so much while I’m working on it, but the second it’s out, I lose all perspective on it and don’t know what any of it means anymore. It takes on a new life. I hope it’s on everyone’s sex playlist except for my own. This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity. www.them.us/story/troye-sivan-bloom-interview
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Post by AP on Aug 29, 2018 14:28:10 GMT -5
Starts at 90 on Metacritic with 4 reviews.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 29, 2018 14:32:08 GMT -5
I feel like I've been waiting for this fucking album for forever.
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Post by George on Aug 29, 2018 14:44:08 GMT -5
I feel like I've been waiting for this f**king album for forever. Me too. Can't believe it's been 8 months since he just released "My! My! My!" to kick off his project's era.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 29, 2018 18:25:51 GMT -5
Starts at 90 on Metacritic with 4 reviews. The new Melodrama.
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Post by DJ General on Aug 30, 2018 15:58:16 GMT -5
The album is sensational. It's a perfect album to get fucked to in the transition period from summer to fall in the backyard under the stars with a nice breeze.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 30, 2018 16:09:41 GMT -5
The album is sensational. It's a perfect album to get f**ked to in the transition period from summer to fall in the backyard under the stars with a nice breeze. Marry me, King.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 30, 2018 16:12:57 GMT -5
The Target near my office already had it on the shelf. This This and Running Shoes are the bonus tracks.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 30, 2018 16:15:16 GMT -5
The album is sensational. It's a perfect album to get f**ked to in the transition period from summer to fall in the backyard under the stars with a nice breeze. Well... *non-existent hair flip* You've never sounded more poetic.
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Post by Mike on Aug 30, 2018 16:23:02 GMT -5
Still holding at 90% after 7 reviews. Can't wait to listen tomorrow!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 17:20:37 GMT -5
This album has some of the best pop songs of the year.
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Post by Dreams on Aug 30, 2018 17:57:06 GMT -5
"Dance To This" is one of my favorite songs of 2018 so I was really looking forward to hearing this album but I'm not impressed to be honest. "Plum" and "Lucky Strike" are cute, especially the former production-wise, but other than those and DTT... nope! 😕
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Post by Gray. on Aug 30, 2018 18:38:28 GMT -5
I like the album a lot. It's not a huge step forward from Blue Neighbourhood, but the style works for him. Besides the singles the standouts to me are "Seventeen", "Plum" and "Lucky Strike".
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Post by Lumi on Aug 30, 2018 23:27:52 GMT -5
I JUST LISTENED TO PLUM AND I DONT THINK IM ALIVE OR AWAKE THIS IS A DREAM SONG BYE
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Post by Rocky on Aug 31, 2018 5:30:11 GMT -5
Amazing, phenomenal, a masterpiece. The thing is that nothing he's ever going to release will top Blue Neighbourhood for it's sentimental value and the fact that it was with me during an important, transformative part of my life. I would still say that Bloom is pretty damn good. The only thing I would change is the track order, but that's minuscule. Haven't heard "The Good Side" for over a month or so, but fuck, that song is beautiful. I mean I love "Dance To This", "Bloom" and the happier part of the album, but imo the melancholic songs are where he really really shines.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 10:16:19 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this album on first listen. I don't have any specific attachment to his prior work - outside of a few singles I've liked - but this had made me want to delve deeper into his prior album and EPs.
A really fresh and interesting artist to have around. Props!
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Post by BDGeek on Aug 31, 2018 12:40:11 GMT -5
It's so nice to see a mainstream pop act make unabashedly queer music that doesn't come off trite or tacky. Just honest, organic, and sex-positive. And extremely well-produced. I also love how subtly sensual the album cover is. Simple and unconventional, yet so effective.
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Post by schnetzka on Aug 31, 2018 13:10:11 GMT -5
With only 10 songs (plus the two deluxe) [compared to the 17 or so from his debut album], this better mean he won't wait another 3 years for his next album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 13:43:40 GMT -5
What a fantastic, cohesive project. Love it. I didn’t enjoy Bloom before, but I love it now. Money well spent.
As for favourites, not sure my order yet.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 31, 2018 17:11:03 GMT -5
Such a tight, succinct, lush album. I do think they released most of the best tracks already, but I really, really like it.
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Post by Lumi on Aug 31, 2018 17:13:03 GMT -5
Opinions and stuff will be posted later but I think this is my order at the moment.
1. Plum 2. Lucky Strike 3. DTT 4. My My My! 5. Animal 6. Postcard 7. WAHWTD 8. Seventeen 9. Bloom 10. TGS
But there's literally not a single song I dislike. This is easily one of my favorite albums of the year. Perfect. Pop.
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Post by Choco on Sept 1, 2018 9:44:17 GMT -5
With such a solid album I'm even more disappointed at how they have managed the project so far. This should have been one of the biggest pop albums of the year!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 11:27:24 GMT -5
Definitely album of the year material for me The rollout reminds me of an even worsely handled Melodrama
Masterpieces that don't get the right promotion but are critical successes
I have yet to listen to the two Target tracks yet but I have faith that they will be just as good as the rest of the album.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 1, 2018 14:30:00 GMT -5
1. Dance To This (this really needs a proper push, especially since Ariana is killing it and they need to promote together! a pure delight that gets better with time) 2. Animal (devastating) 3. Postcard (devastating) 4. The Good Side (devastating...he seems to do this REALLY well) 5. Bloom 6. My, My, My 7. Plum 8. Running Shoes 9. Seventeen 10. This This (first his girl Ari jacked Just Hold On We're Going Home and now Troye...) 11. Lucky Strike 12. What A Heavenly Way To Die
Maybe the last two should have been Target bonus tracks, but this is very good. A solid A-. I think Blue Neighbourhood has more of an impact but this is definitely one of the best albums of the year, without a doubt.
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Post by Lumi on Sept 1, 2018 15:09:24 GMT -5
Finally got to hear This This and Running Shoes. This This reminds me a lot of TRXYE and I'm unsure why, but I really really like it. Such a fun song. Running Shoes... hurts.
Also Lucky Strike is the first song to hit 1 million streams on Spotify. Should be pushed as a single sometime with Dance To This and Plum.
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Post by NeRD on Sept 1, 2018 18:14:48 GMT -5
Lucky Strike and Animal are the standouts for me.
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Post by Normi on Sept 2, 2018 5:59:24 GMT -5
Great album! Very impressed My favorites were Plum and Animal, great songs, a bop and a beautiful ballad
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 2, 2018 15:58:31 GMT -5
Upon multiple listens, lesser songs like Plum, Heavenly Way To Day, and Seventeen make me jealous of the young kids who are just discovering the 80s through Troye. These songs are essentially 80's tribute songs. I just spent 2 and a half hours at mimosa brunch where only 80s songs were played and I was reminded of how much these songs just sound like songs from a John Hughes soundtrack, albeit refracted through a queer lens. Good for Troye for bringing that sound so unabashedly back, though! One could make an argument that the ballads cull from the same harvest, too, but they are a tad bit less transparent, whereas songs like My My My, Dance To This, Postcard, and Running Shoes are much more in a current vein.
While far from a sophomore slump, he went a bit soft on this one, compared to Blue Neighbourhood, which is one of the best debut albums ever created.
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