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Post by rsmatto on Sept 8, 2015 12:43:13 GMT -5
Yes, "Country Radio" and "mainstream country music" don't necessarily = "country music" and the funny thing is, while it seems further now than it ever has been away from the roots of country, It's always been cyclical. Still, this one will test the patience of many fans who do listen to "country radio."
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 8, 2015 14:43:04 GMT -5
This has sold an extra 9k this week, bringing it's total to 418k...
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 8, 2015 19:55:48 GMT -5
Confirmed as the official add date in Billboard tonight.
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Post by someguy on Sept 8, 2015 19:59:51 GMT -5
This also makes its debut at #60 on Billboard Country Airplay.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 10, 2015 19:07:06 GMT -5
Saw a short sneak peek of the music video and it looks amazing!! Another fantastic video that fans will surely love. Could be a big crossover hit too.
Speaking of crossover, it looks like "Take Your Time" is now #2 on iTunes all-genre in Holland! Seems to be building a nice Dutch fanbase over there. Hopefully the song crosses over to more European countries soon.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 14, 2015 11:24:34 GMT -5
NewEnglandCntryMusic β@necntrymusic on Twitter:
@samhuntmusic's success continues as #HouseParty has been certified PLATINUM and #BreakUpInASmallTown has been certified GOLD by the @riaa!
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Post by tigers09 on Sept 14, 2015 17:28:12 GMT -5
13 adds today for a total of 24....official adds date is next week
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 14, 2015 18:08:26 GMT -5
NewEnglandCntryMusic β@necntrymusic on Twitter: @samhuntmusic's success continues as #HouseParty has been certified PLATINUM and #BreakUpInASmallTown has been certified GOLD by the @riaa! Um, yeah, we talked about this when it was announced about two weeks ago.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 14, 2015 21:16:17 GMT -5
^LOL. Sorry.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 22, 2015 10:30:45 GMT -5
Official artwork:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 10:33:10 GMT -5
Official artwork: Perfect representation of what Sam Hunt is doing to country music.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 22, 2015 11:54:16 GMT -5
Jokes aside, I really like the single cover. They probably took this picture while shooting the video. It's a shame they didn't send this to pop and picked something else for country radio, I actually like this song and on a different format I would be 100% behind it.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 22, 2015 11:58:44 GMT -5
Jokes aside, I really like the single cover. They probably took this picture while shooting the video. It's a shame they didn't send this to pop and picked something else for country radio, I actually like this song and on a different format I would be 100% behind it. The picture is from the official video, which will be released very soon.
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Post by tigers09 on Sept 22, 2015 15:19:22 GMT -5
#48 on mediabase airplay...and got 44 radio adds this week!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 23, 2015 23:23:43 GMT -5
Okay, now I'm starting to understand the "but it's not country" argument a bit more. He's a good lyricist IMO, but this is handily the least country thing he's sent to country radio yet.
That said, I don't put genres in a box, so I don't mind when I hear "not country" on country radio. What I ultimately care about is whether or not the song is good. And I think this is a good song.
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Post by tigers09 on Sept 24, 2015 12:56:36 GMT -5
Side note: Sam had #1's party yesterday in Nashville for TYT and HP...his label said Montebello has sold 800K copies to date
Break up is now #46 on mediabase
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 23:28:40 GMT -5
Here's a CMT article about the combined #1 party for "Take Your Time" and "House Party": www.cmt.com/news/1758393/outdoor-party-celebrates-status-of-sam-hunts-take-your-time-house-party/CMT posted that article to their Facebook page. Here are some screenshots of the first several comments: ...and these are probably from people who haven't even heard "Break Up In A Small Town" yet. I actually really like BUIAST but it absolutely does not belong on country radio -- spoken word/rap, electronic drums/production, a big drop as it heads into the chorus? Yeah, those aren't things that I think of when I think "country music". I actually think this song is going to be too polarizing to get out of the teens (if it even gets that high) on the airplay charts. I mean, if a bunch of stations have a problem with songs like Jake Owen's "Real Life", then I think a song like "Break Up In A Small Town" will run into some major resistance as well (don't forget Brantley Gilbert's "Kick It In The Sticks" from a few years ago as well. Also Eric Church's "The Outsiders"). I think radio and the entire country music industry seriously underestimates the number of people who are extremely disgruntled with the direction that "country" radio is heading in. (Note: I'm not saying country radio needs to or should play nothing but Sturgill Simpson and Kacey Musgraves, but c'mon -- this is getting way out of hand).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 5:31:38 GMT -5
Spot on as usual! As I said in the "Beautiful Drug" thread, although on the surface these types of songs may be considered *less* polarizing due to their ability to draw a broader audience, I think when we look back in a couple years we will in fact see that they ended up being more polarizing, and caused more harm than good.
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Post by tonyei31 on Sept 25, 2015 6:06:40 GMT -5
I would not mind if this song was released by a lesser known talent but by Sam that just ensures a #1. I don't think "country radio" can go much further away from the roots than this. The only encouraging thing about this song, at least for me, it can help lead the charge in showing why radio stations need to distinguish themselves as "pop country" or "country" for the listener.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 25, 2015 8:17:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure internet comment sections are the best source to legitimize any point but I agree this will be very polarizing on country radio, even if popular (as it already proved to be by it's huge sales as a album track). It's the type of track people won't be indifferent to... they will either love or hate.
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Post by nncountrykid on Sept 25, 2015 10:11:17 GMT -5
lol every Sam Hunt thread is a gift that keeps on giving. It's successful because people like it. You may not like it, but not everything is made for you and not everyone's idea of country is the same as yours. Things evolve and become influenced by other things.
Had the internet existed decades ago, I'm sure there would have been plenty of people spouting off about how early 90s acts weren't as country as the outlaws of previous generations. It's okay. Sometimes you outgrow the demo and the sound you grew up on doesn't become the sound that sells or drives public interest. People will still make music you like and you may have to seek it out instead of just flipping to a station, but the songs on your AM dial were once on FM, and now they're on AM because things changed. Things are changing. You may not like it and you're entitled to have that opinion, but no station or network or anything else is entitled to cater to your personal interests.
It's all going to be okay. Listen to what you like and if you don't like what's on your local station, change it! It's that simple! You don't have to change what you like at all, you just make a very minute effort to listen to something you do like. It's a wonderful thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 10:23:42 GMT -5
lol every Sam Hunt thread is a gift that keeps on giving. It's successful because people like it. You may not like it, but not everything is made for you and not everyone's idea of country is the same as yours. Things evolve and become influenced by other things. Had the internet existed decades ago, I'm sure there would have been plenty of people spouting off about how early 90s acts weren't as country as the outlaws of previous generations. It's okay. Sometimes you outgrow the demo and the sound you grew up on doesn't become the sound that sells or drives public interest. People will still make music you like and you may have to seek it out instead of just flipping to a station, but the songs on your AM dial were once on FM, and now they're on AM because things changed. Things are changing. You may not like it and you're entitled to have that opinion, but no station or network or anything else is entitled to cater to your personal interests. It's all going to be okay. Listen to what you like and if you don't like what's on your local station, change it! It's that simple! You don't have to change what you like at all, you just make a very minute effort to listen to something you do like. It's a wonderful thing. Okay then. What exactly about this song is country. I wanna know what exactly is country about Breakup In A Smalltown. Also when I tune into a country music station I wanna hear country music. Not this Pop R&B Rap garbage. There is nothing anyone can say to convince me this song is country. Go ahead someone say it. Things change sure but country music should sound country or have we let the genre accept crappy pop music. This song has no business being on the radio at least not country radio. The 90s stuff though had a nice blend of country-pop and traditional. Now in mainstream country you have sellout after sellout all copying Sam Hunt's sound. Examples Eli Young Band Eric Paslay Gary Allan's Hangover Tonight Danielle Bradbery ZBB Luke Bryan Jake Owen The Band Perry all these acts or in Gary's case one particular song are all sellouts vying for radio play by making straight up pop songs that have no resemblance to country music.Instead of doing what Kacey Musgraves and Ashley Monroe Maddie & Tae Dierks Bentley Carrie Underwood do and make albums that actually are country and sound like their trying to make true country music.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 25, 2015 11:50:20 GMT -5
I've been trying to gather my thoughs about this whole Sam Hunt debate and it's not been easy doing so in a second language. Having said that, I'll try my best to throw my 2 cents in a clear way.
First, I'd like to point out I LOVE music, all genres (or most of them)... really! (Country, pop, rock, dance, latin, classical, standards, jazz... you name it!) So, that might explain why I'm not offended by people like Sam as a lot of country fans are.
Ok, now I'll go on and say that I don't really think Sam hunt is a problem for country music. I think the problem is people going out of their ways and copying his sound, or any other new sound just because it's the popular thing to do, despite not fitting them at all. More that that, I think that's a big problem in ALL GENRES o music once a new trend explode.
Not thinking of any specific genre now, I personally really appreciate artists who try to find their own sound and voice, take risks with their music in order to achieve what truly represents them, and after reading a bunch of articles about his creative process and his self-discovery as an artist, I truly believe Sam did that. He was able to create a sound that speaks to him, like it or not. I really admire when artist can do that, especially when the final result is solid material (which I think most of Montevallo is).
Now where does he fit in the "music genre system"? I don't really know. If it wasn't for the "sheep mentality" in the music business that really amplified the impact of his sound in a negative way, I wouldn't be bothered at all by country radio embracing him. I say that mostly because I think he would have a hard time breaking out in any format with the "too-pop-for-country/too-country-for-pop" sound he goes for, so any initial support would've been good for me, as someone who enjoys his music.
Unfortunately, in real life, that opened the gate for the next big trend in country and I completely understand a lot of country fans being bothered by that. It bothers me as well because, a lot of times, that new sound doesn't come off genuine at all for a lot of artists and "being genuine" is something that really makes me connect to the music I listen.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really appreciate artists who don't conform and go for their own sound, even if that means pushing the envelope on people's traditional views of any specific genre. What I don't appreciate is a whole industry just waiting for someone to do it, and after they succeed, turn that into a trend and have everyone else following it.
I hope I've made my views clear to everyone (if anyone cares) lol
unf... thinking in a different language is tiring! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 12:13:52 GMT -5
The problem with using comments to try to figure out what the majority opinion is, is that someone is way more likely to comment if they have a problem with a song or artist than they are to simply say "Yay! I love this!" I can't remember the last time I've messaged a radio station just to say that I love the music they've been playing, but if I am dissatisfied with the music I will feel a need to express my discontent. So while I agree that there's definitely some discontent among country fans, I don't know that they represent a large portion of the demo currently listening to country radio, and to get these people to ever come back to country radio it would take way more than just not playing Sam Hunt or Luke Bryan. At least 60% of the music currently being played by country radio would have to change, and that's just not feasible.
The research for this may be polarizing. I'd be surprised if BUIAST didn't yield high negatives, but as with "Burning House," "I Got the Boy," "Girl Crush," "Like a Wrecking Ball," "Smokin' and Drinkin'," etc, I don't think poor research is a good reason not to play this. As I've said before, research is only representative of the opinion of people who already listen to country radio, and it doesn't take into account the amount of listeners a radio station could gain by venturing out and playing songs that are selling really well but not testing well with radio's narrow demographic of current listeners. I guarantee a song like this would be great for country radio's ratings. Whether this should be played is a good argument to have, but base the argument on genre, not on research or whether it's "polarizing" with country radio listeners.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 25, 2015 12:22:30 GMT -5
lol every Sam Hunt thread is a gift that keeps on giving. It's successful because people like it. You may not like it, but not everything is made for you and not everyone's idea of country is the same as yours. Things evolve and become influenced by other things. Had the internet existed decades ago, I'm sure there would have been plenty of people spouting off about how early 90s acts weren't as country as the outlaws of previous generations. It's okay. Sometimes you outgrow the demo and the sound you grew up on doesn't become the sound that sells or drives public interest. People will still make music you like and you may have to seek it out instead of just flipping to a station, but the songs on your AM dial were once on FM, and now they're on AM because things changed. Things are changing. You may not like it and you're entitled to have that opinion, but no station or network or anything else is entitled to cater to your personal interests. It's all going to be okay. Listen to what you like and if you don't like what's on your local station, change it! It's that simple! You don't have to change what you like at all, you just make a very minute effort to listen to something you do like. It's a wonderful thing. Nobody argues people don't like it. We know people like it. Sam Hunt is a pop artist on country radio. He has pop music fans and he also has fans who listen to country radio (doesn't mean they are all "country music fans"), who don't necessarily make the country format their top priority. I also think that in terms of the "things evolve" argument...it's country radio that has drastically "evolved", not country music itself. Sure, every genre evolves on some level but not to the extent of "Breakup In A Small Town." I just don't know what to say anymore to anyone who thinks that "Breakup In A Small Town" evolving from country music 10-20 years ago is the same as early 90's acts like Travis Tritt, Randy Travis, Alan Jackson, Patty Loveless and Garth Brooks evolving from the likes of Waylon Jennings, Merle Haggard and Hank Williams. Sam's music is pop in every single musical aspect you can think of: Instrumentally, production, vocal arrangement. I also have no objection to people expressing the fact they wish that "Breakup In A Small Town" wasn't on country radio since this is a discussion board, which usually allows one to have opinions. Nobody is forcing you to read objections to Sam's music and it's place on country radio. I do change the dial when "Breakup In A Small Town" comes on the radio and I express my feelings on Pulse of how I believe that Sam Hunt should be sending songs to top 40 radio, not country radio. It's a wonderful thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 14:21:57 GMT -5
lol every Sam Hunt thread is a gift that keeps on giving. It's successful because people like it. You may not like it, but not everything is made for you and not everyone's idea of country is the same as yours. Things evolve and become influenced by other things. Had the internet existed decades ago, I'm sure there would have been plenty of people spouting off about how early 90s acts weren't as country as the outlaws of previous generations. It's okay. Sometimes you outgrow the demo and the sound you grew up on doesn't become the sound that sells or drives public interest. People will still make music you like and you may have to seek it out instead of just flipping to a station, but the songs on your AM dial were once on FM, and now they're on AM because things changed. Things are changing. You may not like it and you're entitled to have that opinion, but no station or network or anything else is entitled to cater to your personal interests. It's all going to be okay. Listen to what you like and if you don't like what's on your local station, change it! It's that simple! You don't have to change what you like at all, you just make a very minute effort to listen to something you do like. It's a wonderful thing. Wow! I didn't think it was possible to change radio stations. I thought that when you buy a vehicle, the radio is stuck on one station and you're forced to like whatever they play. Look, I'm well aware of how the system works and how things change over time. If you read my post carefully, you would have noticed that I was mainly talking about Sam's chart prospects and how I think this song will be polarizing to many country radio listeners. I like this song a lot, but if we're going to continue to have genre-based radio, then I think this is a much better fit on pop radio than country radio. But again, I understand why it is the way it is. The scenario I described was more of a "in a perfect world..." scenario. Thanks for telling me it'll all be okay though. I was pretty sure the world was coming to an end, what with Sam Hunt on country radio and all. ;)
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Post by liza on Sept 25, 2015 16:09:55 GMT -5
I turned country radio off about a year ago. They don't need me as an audience member because they've pulled in a new audience. I've never had a problem with country's "evolution" that some have complained about over the years and enjoy different types of country, though not all, as well as other genres. Sam Hunt says he's blending genres. But I say not so much as he is burying country music. I have a strong dislike for the guys above him who are making this happen.
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Post by nncountrykid on Sept 28, 2015 7:47:19 GMT -5
My objection to the reactions here is less about the dislike of the song, as I think people are well entitled to hate it, and more about the entitlement in regards to what radio plays. This "get off my lawn" attitude is hilarious to me.
He writes country songs, which are delivered in an unorthodox manner because he's influenced by several different types of music. At its core, what Sam Hunt does is very country. People just aren't used to the delivery of his songs, and that's fine. But if you look at any of his writing hits or the William Michael Morgan song, when delivered in a way that is conventional, he's very much country.
People here just tend to have this really bad tendency to project their likes and dislikes as what the format should follow, and I disagree with that. I think Easton Corbin is a bland George Strait imitation, but understand why people like him, accept my distaste for his music and move on. The Sam Hunt people just seem like they're on this passionate, fuming, hatred tour, watching from the limits of Nashville as Sam Hunt burns it down or something. He's just an unconventional country artist and what he's doing may not be for you, so accept it and carry on.
I understood the opinions at first, but now, every new single's thread is just a race to the top of "not country" mountain to see which poster can plant his/her flag first. Several songs into the era, we get that you don't like him. We get that you don't think he's country. We get that you feel like he's what's ruining the genre.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 28, 2015 9:58:23 GMT -5
I have no problem with Sam Hunt because I think he's an excellent lyricist with a clearly defined musical presence. Anyone who can come up with an idea as brilliant as "Cop Car" clearly knows what they are doing. I just don't get hung up on what genre something is (for example, I thought "Lips of an Angel" actually worked better as a country song than a bellowing Nickelback-Ish butt-rock song), but at the same time I'm understanding more and more why people are upset with Sam's style.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 28, 2015 11:16:49 GMT -5
I just don't get hung up on what genre something is I don't either, unless that something is being spun in heavy rotation on country radio when it displays zero country style elements that make it country music. Most don't deny Sam's talents (I do think he's a supremely talented lyricist) but I want pop music on top 40 radio and country music on country radio. I will say that even though there are formats branding their particular style of music, country radio itself isn't contractually obligated to play "country music" but wow, it'd make more sense. The landscape of country radio has changed dramatically over recent years. Country radio is not listened to by only country music fans anymore and Sam's popularity is feeding off that. We can just go ahead and not retain genre-based formats anymore because those format names are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on.
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