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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 14:54:02 GMT -5
They can't be endgamed together, means they can't be endgamed if both alive. Thus, a scenario of 2 Mafia + 2 Chosen being the only ones alive would mean that Mafia loses. That's what the original set-up states, anyway.
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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 15:02:52 GMT -5
Blah. My question doesn't even work if only the Mafia know who's Chosen and they themselves are Unaware. I mean I get why Chosen wouldn't know who the other would be for a set-up like this, but for Mafia to have a full scope like this...ugh.
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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 15:23:39 GMT -5
Yeah, disregard that question. It's pointless to ever role claim in this one, since the two Chosen don't know that they are so, and Mafia will obviously lie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:39:13 GMT -5
^Liucci, I'm not sure if you're talking to me or not and if you are talking to me whether you're responding to my question about being endgamed or my question about Chosen and role claims. At any rate, based on what you're saying I was referring to the OP and it clearly says that Chosen Townies will not be made aware of their role until their death. So, is Libra trying to misguide us for some reason by posing that nonsensical question or was he truly unaware? I was referring to both you and Libra since Libra seemed to think that the chosen townies did know of their existence, but you stated differently. I brought that up so we could get universal confirmation.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 5, 2015 15:45:42 GMT -5
I have a feeling Kunt made no power roles in this on purpose. And I'm not liking that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:47:55 GMT -5
I have a feeling Kunt made no power roles in this on purpose. And I'm not liking that. Well this is a Tutorial Mafia game and the power roles (or an overabundance of them like we often do) might confuse the newer players (bigfan, albie, narwhals, etc.), so I think it's to limit the confusion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:48:57 GMT -5
Well thanks for explaining Libra, the chosen twist did puzzle me since Kunt's opening post had a role example that specifically stated chosen townie.
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 16:08:16 GMT -5
I have a feeling Kunt made no power roles in this on purpose. And I'm not liking that. Baron can you help us newbies out in understanding what you mean? Maybe I'm the only one confused but what is it that you don't like about there not being power roles? Forgive the naivety but this is so different from the way the last game was set up so I'm trying to understand your statement in the context of this set-up. What would be different for us were there power roles? Well thanks for explaining Libra, the chosen twist did puzzle me since Kunt's opening post had a role example that specifically stated chosen townie. Good catch! That is conflicting but Kunt referred us here to understand the set-up so until he says differently I'm going to continue to assume that the role example he made was a mistake and Chosen Townies truly don't know they are Chosen.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 5, 2015 16:11:18 GMT -5
Power roles = night/daytime abilities. Kunt said everyone's vanilla except the chosen ones. Even the Mafia are vanilla goons.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 5, 2015 16:11:44 GMT -5
So thus, vanilla = no power at all
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 16:19:05 GMT -5
#mod: to clarify, the Chosen townies are not made aware of their role. The example Role PM is provided to explain what their powers are to all players so that they may be made aware.
If you have any questions about the setup, feel free to ask me or refer to the setup listed on the mafiascum wiki. As this is an open setup, I have no problem answering these questions.
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 16:20:10 GMT -5
Ok, yeah the definitions are great and helpful, thanks. But I was more asking why it is that you don't like that there are no power roles. And maybe this is inconsequential but you said: I have a feeling Kunt made no power roles in this on purpose. And I'm not liking that. And I'm just curious what difference that makes to you?
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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 16:21:01 GMT -5
Coco and bigfan are currently tied for most votes with 2 apiece. Coincidentally, they're also the two who haven't posted in the longest. (But that doesn't mean anything on its own.)
I'd vote for one, but I don't like putting either at L-2 on the basis of just that and both being RVS wagons.
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 16:31:12 GMT -5
My vote for Coco is 100% RVS but I am going to need her to pop in here soon to see what's on her mind.
Also, I've gone over the players a few times and I know that LBTrock is out and replaced by Liucci but I saw Surf pop in here...but he's not playing right?
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 5, 2015 16:37:04 GMT -5
Ok, yeah the definitions are great and helpful, thanks. But I was more asking why it is that you don't like that there are no power roles. And maybe this is inconsequential but you said: I have a feeling Kunt made no power roles in this on purpose. And I'm not liking that. And I'm just curious what difference that makes to you? Because they make the Night Phase way more fun. You get to be in control of who dies and who lives.
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 17:46:01 GMT -5
I feel some type of way about your statement but I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 5, 2015 17:56:31 GMT -5
Sorry, I just got off a plane for work. Will be around the rest of the night. I'm catching up on the posts now.
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 18:21:21 GMT -5
Coco and bigfan are currently tied for most votes with 2 apiece. Coincidentally, they're also the two who haven't posted in the longest. (But that doesn't mean anything on its own.) I'd vote for one, but I don't like putting either at L-2 on the basis of just that and both being RVS wagons. Unless I'm doing this wrong, I think Bigfan is the only one with two votes on him at the moment.
I think current vote count stands at:
Albie: Mikey bigfan101: Drag, Baron Coco: Albie Green Baron: Libra Libra: Green Baron Liucci: Narwhals Mikey: Coco Narwhals: Liucci
Not voting: bigfan101
and most of these are really RVS. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 18:27:38 GMT -5
Bigfan please vote for someone by the end of the day. Not voting is one of the worst things for town.
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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 18:48:12 GMT -5
Coco and bigfan are currently tied for most votes with 2 apiece. Coincidentally, they're also the two who haven't posted in the longest. (But that doesn't mean anything on its own.) I'd vote for one, but I don't like putting either at L-2 on the basis of just that and both being RVS wagons. Unless I'm doing this wrong, I think Bigfan is the only one with two votes on him at the moment.
I think current vote count stands at:
Albie: Mikey bigfan101: Drag, Baron Coco: Albie Green Baron: Libra Libra: Green Baron Liucci: Narwhals Mikey: Coco Narwhals: Liucci
Not voting: bigfan101
and most of these are really RVS. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
This is both right and wrong - right because it is only bigfan with 2 votes (messed up with Mikey moving his vote), but wrong because you're counting Green Baron twice. ;)
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Post by Albie on Oct 5, 2015 18:52:54 GMT -5
Oh! ok so this:
Albie: Mikey bigfan101: Drag, Baron Coco: Albie Green Baron: Libra Liucci: Narwhals Mikey: Coco Narwhals: Liucci
Not voting: bigfan101
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 5, 2015 19:40:09 GMT -5
Oh! ok so this: Albie: Mikey bigfan101: Drag, Baron Coco: Albie Green Baron: Libra Liucci: Narwhals Mikey: Coco Narwhals: Liucci Not voting: bigfan101 I hate voting in RVS. Last time, it got me almost axed early. I refrained because I really have no suspicion as of now, so there really is no point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 19:53:58 GMT -5
Day 1 BeginsDeadline has been set for 10.06.2015 4:59PM EDTIt takes 5/9 votes to lynch! Albie: Mikey bigfan101: Drag, Baron Coco: Albie Green Baron: Libra Liucci: Narwhals Mikey: Coco Narwhals: Liucci Day One: Vote Count 5 Not voting: bigfan101#mod: less than 24 hours until deadline.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:05:02 GMT -5
bigfan, you're relatively new, so I'm willing to give you a pass, but abstaining from voting is detrimental if you're town, as Drag stated. If you're mislynched and flip town, it gives us a little something extra to look back with in your vote. We seem to be breaking out of rvs and becoming more serious, so a vote is essential if you're town.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:05:38 GMT -5
it's more detrimental than not voting at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:09:45 GMT -5
*than voting for the wrong person
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 5, 2015 20:31:55 GMT -5
No I will vote, just not right now. There is no point too, cause I would just change it before the end.
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Post by Mikey on Oct 5, 2015 21:01:35 GMT -5
hai~~~
Have caught up with the posts, but tbh haven't found something that screams scum. The only thing that caught my eye was Libra's question, but i'm going to believe it's a pure mistake.
Bigfan refusing to vote is a little bit weird too, but i'm going to Vote : Coco because she has basically said nothing post-RVS. #Pressure
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 5, 2015 21:37:35 GMT -5
I mean I can vote. This whole process just seems beyond pointless to me. We don't learn anything during RVS worthwhile and it just seems crazy to vote. I wish we could get down to business quicker lol
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Post by Libra on Oct 5, 2015 21:55:21 GMT -5
I'm with Mikey. Vote: Coco to get at least a response, but I don't think anyone else needs to jump on this wagon yet, since my vote means L-2.
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