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Post by Daniel Collins on Oct 20, 2015 16:53:55 GMT -5
Mediabase 10/20/15
1. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 180.981 (+ 0.267)
2. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 169.294 (+ 1.443)
3. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 152.579 (+ 1.359)
4. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 142.063 (- 1.924)
5. DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 130.608 (+ 2.276)
6. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 117.664 (+ 1.482) ▲
7. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 117.592 (- 3.170) ▼
8. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 106.521 (- 1.475)
9. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 104.521 (+ 0.977)
10. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 95.457 (- 0.461)
11. ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 89.789 (+ 1.971)
12. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 84.848 (- 0.645)
13. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 80.965 (- 0.662)
14. FETTY WAP - 679 f/Remy Boyz...: 78.683 (+ 0.635)
15. LUKE BRYAN - Strip It Down: 65.848 (- 0.385)
16. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 65.069 (+ 0.230)
17. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - Downtown: 65.026 (+ 0.711)
18. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 61.923 (- 1.096)
19. ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 61.537 (+ 0.605)
20. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 60.226 (+ 0.063)
ALESSIA CARA - Here: 60.093 (+ 1.285)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 57.988 (+ 1.811)
ELLIE GOULDING - On My Mind: 56.850 (+ 1.635)
COLE SWINDELL - Let Me See Ya Girl: 56.272 (+ 0.702)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 54.557 (+ 0.783)
CALVIN HARRIS + DISCIPLES - How Deep Is Your Love: 50.267 (+ 0.933)
BLAKE SHELTON - Gonna: 46.607 (+ 0.636)
SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 37.543 (+ 1.448)
DEMI LOVATO - Confident: 24.784 (+ 1.261)
RUDIMENTAL - Lay It All On Me f/Ed Sheeran: 24.416 (+ 1.098)
MAROON 5 - Feelings: 19.343 (- 0.107)
THOMAS RHETT - Die A Happy Man: 19.013 (+ 1.082)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 14.685 (+ 0.336)
CHRIS BROWN - Zero: 8.946 (+ 0.463)
ONE DIRECTION - Perfect: 5.382 (+ 1.117)
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Post by felipe on Oct 20, 2015 17:19:04 GMT -5
What is more popular nowadays: streaming or radio? (popular as in used by the biggest number of people) I don't know much about streaming numbers, so does the #1 song usually get around 200 mi as on radio?
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Post by wjr15 on Oct 20, 2015 17:35:39 GMT -5
So happy that Ex's and Oh's is about to go into the Top 10!!
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Post by badrobot on Oct 20, 2015 19:22:41 GMT -5
What is more popular nowadays: streaming or radio? (popular as in used by the biggest number of people) I don't know much about streaming numbers, so does the #1 song usually get around 200 mi as on radio? There's not an easy way to compare the 2. Streaming songs may get 20-25m streams at #1 in a week on average probably, but that does not take into account how many people are listening the way radio does. 1 stream could be heard by only 1 person or by 200 people in a gym or restaurant or party. I think if you looked at the numbers based on how many people actively listen to radio/streaming (as opposed to just being somewhere that music is being played) the numbers would probably be pretty close or streaming may even win. |
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Post by felipe on Oct 21, 2015 6:55:10 GMT -5
What is more popular nowadays: streaming or radio? (popular as in used by the biggest number of people) I don't know much about streaming numbers, so does the #1 song usually get around 200 mi as on radio? There's not an easy way to compare the 2. Streaming songs may get 20-25m streams at #1 in a week on average probably, but that does not take into account how many people are listening the way radio does. 1 stream could be heard by only 1 person or by 200 people in a gym or restaurant or party. I think if you looked at the numbers based on how many people actively listen to radio/streaming (as opposed to just being somewhere that music is being played) the numbers would probably be pretty close or streaming may even win. But how can radio take into account how many people are listening to a song in a gym or even in a car? I had no idea the top streaming song got only 25 mi in a week. I assumed it'd be way more. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 21, 2015 8:32:46 GMT -5
I had no idea the top streaming song got only 25 mi in a week. I assumed it'd be way more. Streaming is common, for sure, but I think it's a bit overestimated by people. I work part-time in a gym, and a lot of people still use iPods/shuffles. That's an example of listening to music that isn't captured by any chart component. You have to also think about the breadth that streaming represents. One song may only get 20-25 million streams in a week, but that's because people are listening to so many songs. In other words, there are obviously a lot more songs streamed than get radio play. |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Oct 21, 2015 9:29:57 GMT -5
Mediabase 10/21/15
1. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 181.215 (+ 0.234)
2. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 170.426 (+ 1.132)
3. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 153.711 (+ 1.132)
4. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 140.041 (- 2.022)
5. DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 133.068 (+ 2.460)
6. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 119.662 (+ 1.998)
7. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 114.528 (- 3.064)
8. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 105.307 (+ 0.786) ▲
9. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 104.973 (- 1.548) ▼
10. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 94.538 (- 0.919)
11. ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 91.252 (+ 1.463)
12. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 84.408 (- 0.440)
13. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 80.204 (- 0.761)
14. FETTY WAP - 679 f/Remy Boyz...: 79.379 (+ 0.696)
15. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - Downtown: 65.026 (+ 0.445) ▲
16. LUKE BRYAN - Strip It Down: 65.323 (- 0.525) ▼
17. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 65.130 (+ 0.061) ▼
18. ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 62.132 (+ 0.595) ▲
19. ALESSIA CARA - Here: 61.030 (+ 0.937) ▲
20. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 60.595 (- 1.328) ▼
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 60.385 (+ 0.159) ▼
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 60.019 (+ 2.031)
ELLIE GOULDING - On My Mind: 57.999 (+ 1.149)
COLE SWINDELL - Let Me See Ya Girl: 56.763 (+ 0.491)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 55.023 (+ 0.466)
CALVIN HARRIS + DISCIPLES - How Deep Is Your Love: 51.075 (+ 0.808)
BLAKE SHELTON - Gonna: 46.991 (+ 0.384)
SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 38.691 (+ 1.148)
DEMI LOVATO - Confident: 26.124 (+ 1.340)
RUDIMENTAL - Lay It All On Me f/Ed Sheeran: 25.420 (+ 1.004)
THOMAS RHETT - Die A Happy Man: 20.131 (+ 1.118)
MAROON 5 - Feelings: 19.320 (- 0.023)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 15.190 (+ 0.505)
CHRIS BROWN - Zero: 9.313 (+ 0.367)
ONE DIRECTION - Perfect: 6.623 (+ 1.241)
TOVE LO - Moments: 2.293
GWEN STEFANI - Used To Love You: 1.199 (+ 0.296)
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Oct 21, 2015 9:47:40 GMT -5
Mediabase 10/21/15 2. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 170.426 (+ 1.132)3. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 153.711 (+ 1.132)  |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Oct 21, 2015 13:29:22 GMT -5
Mediabase 10/21/15 2. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 170.426 (+ 1.132)3. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 153.711 (+ 1.132) On My Mind and Same Old Love were .001 off as well. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 21, 2015 17:09:15 GMT -5
Die a Happy Man is #4 on iTunes now!!! Anyone can explain why this song is big now on digital, besides that it's amazingly beautiful?
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Oct 21, 2015 17:11:03 GMT -5
Die a Happy Man is #4 on iTunes now!!! Anyone can explain why this song is big now on digital, besides it's amazingly beautiful? I don't really know, but I think this will become a crossover hit |
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Post by lyhom on Oct 21, 2015 17:16:32 GMT -5
Die a Happy Man is #4 on iTunes now!!! Anyone can explain why this song is big now on digital, besides that it's amazingly beautiful? it basically rips off one of the biggest hits of the yearthe video probably |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 21, 2015 18:26:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 18:40:21 GMT -5
Die a Happy Man is #4 on iTunes now!!! Anyone can explain why this song is big now on digital, besides that it's amazingly beautiful? I was going to ask the same thing earlier today when i saw it on iTunes... except with the amazingly beautiful part.... because it felt very average country song to me. This coming from a guy who grew up with horses and country music for the first half of my life... and worked in country radio for over 3 years in the 90s. I just don't get why it's such a standout country track. But you saying it's amazingly beautiful explains a little i guess? I just don't hear it. |
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Post by badrobot on Oct 21, 2015 19:26:05 GMT -5
There's not an easy way to compare the 2. Streaming songs may get 20-25m streams at #1 in a week on average probably, but that does not take into account how many people are listening the way radio does. 1 stream could be heard by only 1 person or by 200 people in a gym or restaurant or party. I think if you looked at the numbers based on how many people actively listen to radio/streaming (as opposed to just being somewhere that music is being played) the numbers would probably be pretty close or streaming may even win. But how can radio take into account how many people are listening to a song in a gym or even in a car? I had no idea the top streaming song got only 25 mi in a week. I assumed it'd be way more. Radio has been designed to be measured by estimating how many people are listening. Those numbers you see are educated guesses. The only hard data with radio is number of plays, and I'm not sure how many plays a #1 song gets. Maybe 50,000? Airplay is the only factor in the hot 100 based on estimates not hard data. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 21, 2015 20:02:58 GMT -5
Die a Happy Man is #4 on iTunes now!!! Anyone can explain why this song is big now on digital, besides that it's amazingly beautiful? I was going to ask the same thing earlier today when i saw it on iTunes... except with the amazingly beautiful part.... because it felt very average country song to me. This coming from a guy who grew up with horses and country music for the first half of my life... and worked in country radio for over 3 years in the 90s. I just don't get why it's such a standout country track. But you saying it's amazingly beautiful explains a little i guess? I just don't hear it. The song's on play during a class period and then I heard this song after the hearsay that it's a ripoff of a GENERIC AND NOT-CATCHY-AT-ALL ED SHEERAN SONG. It was magical, I immediately fell head over heels in love with this song and the affectionate lyrics, the soft voice that gives significance to sweet romance and the word "die" in the title gives it a bittersweet and more dramatic sort of feel. Besides, Die a Happy Man is wayyyyyy more beautiful and MUCH CATCHIER than the counterpart from Ed Sheeren. This song makes me wanna fall in love with Thomas Rhett while the "biggest hit of the year" is rather unconvincing to me! Besides, critics mostly love this song as well. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 21, 2015 20:08:18 GMT -5
Also, is boring Thinking out Loud's success based upon Ed Sheeran's fan base or his bombarding promotion or both?
Cuz man.. This is like one of the biggest mystery for me this year: what make this dry and cliched love song such a blockbuster, but instead, his relatively more acclaimed song like The A Team or Don't are just moderately successful?
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Post by imbondz on Oct 21, 2015 20:35:15 GMT -5
Power of Love and Back in Time by Huey Lewis and the News charting at iTunes today. Haha.
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Post by Gary on Oct 21, 2015 20:41:51 GMT -5
Of course for Back to the Future Day. Gone by tomorrow though.
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2015 22:00:52 GMT -5
But how can radio take into account how many people are listening to a song in a gym or even in a car? I had no idea the top streaming song got only 25 mi in a week. I assumed it'd be way more. Radio has been designed to be measured by estimating how many people are listening. Those numbers you see are educated guesses. The only hard data with radio is number of plays, and I'm not sure how many plays a #1 song gets. Maybe 50,000? Airplay is the only factor in the hot 100 based on estimates not hard data. But if those estimates are calculated carefully using sound methods, they can be pretty close to the actual number of listeners. |
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Post by badrobot on Oct 21, 2015 22:25:18 GMT -5
^they may be. But keep in mind the primary purpose of that tracking is really to sell ads. It's in their best interests to inflate the numbers as high as possible.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Oct 22, 2015 5:12:07 GMT -5
Also, is boring Thinking out Loud's success based upon Ed Sheeran's fan base or his bombarding promotion or both? Cuz man.. This is like one of the biggest mystery for me this year: what make this dry and cliched love song such a blockbuster, but instead, his relatively more acclaimed song like The A Team or Don't are just moderately successful? Opinions.. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Oct 22, 2015 5:14:07 GMT -5
No but seriously who is Kane Brown? Is his sudden skrocketing because of gwen's new song having nearly the same title?
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Post by felipe on Oct 22, 2015 8:10:08 GMT -5
^they may be. But keep in mind the primary purpose of that tracking is really to sell ads. It's in their best interests to inflate the numbers as high as possible. But there must be a way to prevent radio stations from inflating their audience figures, no? (as well as to prevent tv from inflating their ratings, or studios from inflating their box office reports) Why else would a network ever report their TV show is flopping hard? |
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Post by badrobot on Oct 22, 2015 8:56:47 GMT -5
^they may be. But keep in mind the primary purpose of that tracking is really to sell ads. It's in their best interests to inflate the numbers as high as possible. But there must be a way to prevent radio stations from inflating their audience figures, no? (as well as to prevent tv from inflating their ratings, or studios from inflating their box office reports) Why else would a network ever report their TV show is flopping hard? It's not the radio stations individually, it's Nielsen BDS. I doubt it's some crazy over inflation. It's just that it basically treats the guy jamming out in his car to his favorite song on the radio the same as the person who hears half a song they hate quietly in the background at the dentist's office. That second guy is not exactly an engaged listener. |
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Oct 22, 2015 10:21:55 GMT -5
-"Hello" -the new single by Adele"- will be released TOMORROW, as download and streaming with music video.
-"Focus" by Ariana Grande will be released on October 30.
Guys, be prepared for the upcoming weeks, this gets VERY interesting ;)
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Post by velaxti on Oct 22, 2015 10:30:54 GMT -5
-"Hello" -the new single by Adele"- will be released TOMORROW, as download and streaming with music video. -"Focus" by Ariana Grande will be released on October 30. Guys, be prepared for the upcoming weeks, this gets VERY interesting ;) There're going to be MAJOR meltdowns if Hotline Bling blocks both of them. |
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Oct 22, 2015 10:36:22 GMT -5
-"Hello" -the new single by Adele"- will be released TOMORROW, as download and streaming with music video. -"Focus" by Ariana Grande will be released on October 30. Guys, be prepared for the upcoming weeks, this gets VERY interesting ;) There're going to be MAJOR meltdowns if Hotline Bling blocks both of them. True, this is probably the last week Drake has to be #1 |
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Post by imbondz on Oct 22, 2015 10:53:27 GMT -5
Also, is boring Thinking out Loud's success based upon Ed Sheeran's fan base or his bombarding promotion or both? Cuz man.. This is like one of the biggest mystery for me this year: what make this dry and cliched love song such a blockbuster, but instead, his relatively more acclaimed song like The A Team or Don't are just moderately successful? you're in the minority if you don't think Thinking Out Loud isn't a great song. It is. Overplayed yes, but imo it's a great song. |
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Post by velaxti on Oct 22, 2015 10:54:20 GMT -5
I could see Adele and Ariana selling, say, 300,000 on week 1, but week 2 onwards they will sell less.
They will probably both get radio deals, but it might take about a month for them to catch up with Hotline Bling's airplay?
I think both are releasing music videos on release week, but can they ever hope to top Drake's streaming? Adele and Ariana both do brilliant in streaming, but Drake arguably does even better. I think Hotline Bling could get Wrecking Ball/Anaconda levels of streams in the coming weeks tbh.
The question is can their sales leads out-weigh their airplay and streaming deficits? I do think Hotline Bling could genuinely block them. Remember when people were sure Katy and Gaga would debut above Blurred Lines, and they didn't (although I think they both overtook after a few weeks)?
I think Hotline Bling will get more than 1 week at #1 basically.
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