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Post by carreramd on Oct 31, 2015 17:15:49 GMT -5
Sorry already surpass Focus on iTunes. I'm really impressed.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 31, 2015 18:26:52 GMT -5
Sorry already surpass Focus on iTunes. I'm really impressed. If Focus can only sell less than 150k this week, then why did Problem make a lofty 438k in 2014 just with a lyrics video? Just because it didn't sound like a recycled stuff and had Iggy in it? Serious it doesn't make sense! Focus' video had about 10 m views in one day but how come its sale is so grim? I thought Ariana is more or less an established diva after My Everything
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Post by felipe on Oct 31, 2015 18:41:57 GMT -5
I don't know, I don't feel like Adele has it in her what it takes to deal with superstardom status. Out of her 4 last singles she only shot a video for one of them. That "I'm just here for the music" can only last for so long, eventually she'll have to promote her albums, do talk show interviews and play wheel of impressions on TVmlike every other mortal musician - even the huge ones.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Oct 31, 2015 18:42:35 GMT -5
Sorry already surpass Focus on iTunes. I'm really impressed. If Focus can only sell less than 150k this week, then why did Problem make a lofty 438k in 2014 just with a lyrics video? Just because it didn't sound like a recycled stuff and had Iggy in it? Serious it doesn't make sense! Focus' video had about 10 m views in one day but how come its sale is so grim? I thought Ariana is more or less an established diva after My Everything The decline of digital downloads must be partly to blame.
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Post by felipe on Oct 31, 2015 19:02:44 GMT -5
If Focus can only sell less than 150k this week, then why did Problem make a lofty 438k in 2014 just with a lyrics video? Just because it didn't sound like a recycled stuff and had Iggy in it? Serious it doesn't make sense! Focus' video had about 10 m views in one day but how come its sale is so grim? I thought Ariana is more or less an established diva after My Everything The decline of digital downloads must be partly to blame. If Justin Bieber is outselling her on his second week, it can't be just that.
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Post by carreramd on Oct 31, 2015 19:40:12 GMT -5
Sorry already surpass Focus on iTunes. I'm really impressed. If Focus can only sell less than 150k this week, then why did Problem make a lofty 438k in 2014 just with a lyrics video? Just because it didn't sound like a recycled stuff and had Iggy in it? Serious it doesn't make sense! Focus' video had about 10 m views in one day but how come its sale is so grim? I thought Ariana is more or less an established diva after My Everything I really don't know. Maybe it would be because of the donut thing. (?) Sorry isn't a lead single like Focus, and Ariana is so popular than Justin, I can't understand...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 20:00:46 GMT -5
Ariana is so popular than Justin, I can't understand... Since when? I know #1s aren't the benchmark for success but Justin's last single went to #1 and Ariana's never had one in her career.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 31, 2015 20:00:59 GMT -5
I don't know, I don't feel like Adele has it in her what it takes to deal with superstardom status. Out of her 4 last singles she only shot a video for one of them. That "I'm just here for the music" can only last for so long, eventually she'll have to promote her albums, do talk show interviews and play wheel of impressions on TVmlike every other mortal musician - even the huge ones. I do kind of agree. Expectations are so high for the next couple years for Adele but I do think the time will come when people will stop being so impressed. Not that she'll have a backlash or whatever - I feel like Adele is like Jennifer Lawrence in that respect and she can do no wrong - but she'll have already impressed as much as she can. It helps that she's so likeable and personable in interviews though so as long as she does those on a somewhat regular basis, she won't need to do much else.
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Post by carreramd on Oct 31, 2015 20:10:49 GMT -5
Ariana is so popular than Justin, I can't understand... Since when? I know #1s aren't the benchmark for success but Justin's last single went to #1 and Ariana's never had one in her career. Yes, it isn't benchmark of success. Until WDYM, the best single of Justin was Boyfriend #2, and Problem was #2 too.
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Post by forg on Oct 31, 2015 20:13:37 GMT -5
What is the consensus on the quality of Hello, guys? I've seen a lot of positive comments, but honestly I don't think it holds a candle to Rolling in the deep and Someone like you (but that maybe people are just too excited for Adele's return to mind that). Well, i never liked Someone like you (in fact i think it's my less favourite Adele's single behind Skyfall). Rolling in the deep is sinply too much (i can't understand why it was not number one on UK). That song changed everything, now it seems difficult to believe but Adele's arriving in the USA wasn't that easy, she was not Sam Smith that only needed one performance to establish himself. 19 sold well, but even with all the awards and fantastic reception to her performances, none of her singles had an impact (not even the amazing Chasing pavements which barely was top 20 on hot ac and didn't impacted on pop). Rolling in the deep changed everything, she suddenly was not only a woman capable to sell a lot of albums (19 did very well despite of radio reception), she was a force of nature, a hit maker and a pop diva. And i doubt any other single could do that for her. Apart of that is an amazing song, so amazing that it sounds great in every cover people make I think Hello is a great ballad with an amazing chorus, we'll see if pass the test of time If I remember it right, Adele's SNL performance gave big boost to 19 and Chasing Pavements. 19 was indeed under the radar then but that SNL performance I felt was the one who ignited Adele's star status. 21 did open well and Rolling in the Deep was not peaking yet that time I love Hello but yes it's no Rolling in the Deep, that song will always be special and hard to match
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Post by Envoirment on Oct 31, 2015 21:40:14 GMT -5
If Focus can only sell less than 150k this week, then why did Problem make a lofty 438k in 2014 just with a lyrics video? Just because it didn't sound like a recycled stuff and had Iggy in it? Serious it doesn't make sense! Focus' video had about 10 m views in one day but how come its sale is so grim? I thought Ariana is more or less an established diva after My Everything I really don't know. Maybe it would be because of the donut thing. (?) Sorry isn't a lead single like Focus, and Ariana is so popular than Justin, I can't understand...That's simply not true. You only have to at Justin's album sales to see that. He has a much bigger fanbase than Ariana and he's currently got a lot more momentum than she has.
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Post by Envoirment on Oct 31, 2015 21:44:05 GMT -5
Whether or not she was already known, that Brit Awards performance of "SLY" definitely took her to another level there. Personally I don't believe so. She was already racking up monsterous album sales before it was pushed. Even if she had performed "Set Fire To The Rain" or "Rolling In The Deep" at the BRITS instead, the album was clearly going to be a monster. Racking up nearly 500k sales in the 3 weeks before the performance in January/February (outside of Q4) is insane. I think she was on another level as soon as the album dropped.
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Post by TylerG11 on Nov 1, 2015 1:55:41 GMT -5
Focus isn't selling well because it is truly an awful song. I'm not a fan of Ariana to begin with (because she's a major diva) but I can enjoy some of her music. Focus however is the worst song she's put out by a long shot. Her label got arrogant, and she's paying by lack of reception to the song.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Nov 1, 2015 4:30:26 GMT -5
OMG!! Why am I just that non-mainstream??! Imo Focus is a MUCH BETTER SONG than Problem..
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Post by felipe on Nov 1, 2015 6:20:58 GMT -5
Kind of a random questions, but who makes the decisions for these big pop acts, like Justin or Ariana? Like, who decides when the single is going to be released, whether there'll be a lyric video or they'll drop the music video right away, when and where they are going to perform the song, etc. Does the artist get a say in those? Is it the manager who decides? Or someone at the label (if so, who?)
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Post by ry4n on Nov 1, 2015 6:32:01 GMT -5
Top 10 flashbacks for this week I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH :'( 1 year ago (11/15/2014)
1 2 Shake It Off - Taylor Swift (3rd week of 4 @ #1)2 1 All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor 3 3 Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo 4 5 Animals - Maroon 5 5 4 Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj 6 6 Black Widow - Iggy Azalea feat. Rita Ora 7 7 Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih feat. YG 8 8 Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda 9 11 Don't - Ed Sheeran 10 9 Take Me To Church - Hozier + 18 NE Blank Space - Taylor Swift 60 NE Style - Taylor Swift 69 48 Welcome To New York - Taylor Swift 76 NE Wildest Dreams - Taylor Swift 80 NE Bad Blood - Taylor Swift 104 NE How You Get The Girl - Taylor Swift 114 NE All You Had To Do Was Stay - Taylor Swift 119 NE This Love - Taylor Swift5 years ago (11/13/2010)
1 NE We R Who We R - Ke$ha (1st and only week @ #1)2 1 Like A G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev 3 2 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars 4 3 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna 5 4 Just A Dream - Nelly 6 5 DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love - Usher feat. Pitbull 7 6 Bottoms Up - Trey Songz feat. Nicki Minaj 8 7 Teenage Dream - Katy Perry 9 8 Dynamite - Taio Cruz 10 10 Raise Your Glass - P!nk + 11 78 Whip My Hair - Willow + 17 NE Sparks Fly - Taylor Swift 21 13 Mine - Taylor Swift 27 NE Innocent - Taylor Swift 41 NE The Story Of Us - Taylor Swift 54 NE Dear John - Taylor Swift 56 NE Better Than Revenge - Taylor Swift 63 NE Haunted - Taylor Swift 71 NE Last Kiss - Taylor Swift 75 NE Enchanted - Taylor Swift 84 NE Never Grow Up - Taylor Swift 85 NE Long Live - Taylor Swift10 years ago (11/12/2005)
1 1 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx (9th week of 10 @ #1)2 2 Run It! - Chris Brown 3 3 My Humps - Black Eyed Peas 4 5 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon 5 4 Photograph - Nickelback 6 10 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul 7 6 Like You - Bow Wow feat. Ciara 8 8 Because Of You - Kelly Clarkson 9 7 Shake It Off - Mariah Carey 10 11 Sugar, We're Goin' Down - Fall Out Boy 15 years ago (11/11/2000)
1 3 With Arms Wide Open - Creed (1st and only week @ #1) 2 2 Music - Madonna 3 4 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down 4 1 Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You) - Christina Aguilera 5 7 Independent Women Part I - Destiny's Child 6 5 Most Girls - P!nk 7 6 This I Promise You - *NSYNC 8 9 Gotta Tell You - Samantha Mumba 9 10 Case Of The Ex (Whatcha Gonna Do) - Mya 10 8 Jumpin', Jumpin' - Destiny's Child
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Post by Clode on Nov 1, 2015 6:34:46 GMT -5
Monster Mash? Thriller? Ghostbusters?
What are all these old songs doing lurking around in the ITunes Top 50??
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 1, 2015 6:36:29 GMT -5
Monster Mash? Thriller? Ghostbusters? What are all these old songs doing lurking around in the ITunes Top 50?? Maybe Halloween is just a thing, IDK...
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Post by Clode on Nov 1, 2015 6:39:08 GMT -5
Well looks like Thriller is going to re-enter the Hot 100 for a 3rd year in a row
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Post by balletgirlmom on Nov 1, 2015 7:53:03 GMT -5
I was hearing Thriller everywhere the past few days and Thriller always makes me SMILE!
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Post by velaxti on Nov 1, 2015 8:37:12 GMT -5
I think most people on pop forums overestimate how "big" Ariana is. I like her (and in my opinion Focus is a good song and will be a hit), but remember Flo Rida had Good Feeling, Wild Ones, Whistle and I Cry in the space of a year. Jason Derulo had Talk Dirty, Whistle, Trumpets, The Other Side all in just over a year. Fetty Wap this year has had Trap Queen, My Way and 679. Having a string of hits means you've had a string of hits, that's pretty much it.
I think because Ariana is female people pop fans over-estimate her a bit. Ciara and Ashanti had a bunch of hits like Ariana once upon a time.
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Post by jebsib on Nov 1, 2015 9:02:16 GMT -5
The Ariana thing may be personal.
She bruised her image in middle America with "hating America" comment. Those things sting a huge portion of the populace.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Nov 1, 2015 10:00:36 GMT -5
Apparently "Hello" had 24.8 million YouTube views from the US in the Billboard tracking week. So its' first week US streaming numbers (from Hits estimates & YouTube numbers) are at 52.6 million .
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Post by balletgirlmom on Nov 1, 2015 10:34:47 GMT -5
I bet we hear from Billboard tomorrow about Adele getting to #1.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 1, 2015 10:39:08 GMT -5
Hmm the sales for focus are looking...not positive, sellING less than sorry in its 2nd week and being outsold by hotline bling..
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 1, 2015 10:40:03 GMT -5
I bet we hear from Billboard tomorrow about Adele getting to #1. well they do release the top 10 on Monday so...
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Post by yuh yuh on Nov 1, 2015 10:49:35 GMT -5
Hmm the sales for focus are looking...not positive, sellING less than sorry in its 2nd week and being outsold by hotline bling.. Streams on Spotify, as well.. :( Only factor that is well for it are Youtube views.
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Post by aser94 on Nov 1, 2015 11:10:09 GMT -5
Re: the "I hate America" comments—how many people who were offended by that would've bought Ariana's single anyway, or knew who Ariana was before it, or even pay attention to pop music regularly? There's a reason "Focus" seems to be underperforming but I don't think that's it.
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Post by Dylan :) on Nov 1, 2015 11:29:30 GMT -5
I don't even think it bothered people that much, a lot of people just look for a reason to be offended. The doughnut incident is over, no one really cares anymore, it's just a joke now. "I'm not going to buy this song because she licked a doughnut and said America has an obesity problem".
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Post by ry4n on Nov 1, 2015 11:34:59 GMT -5
Pop tends to be pretty forgiving anyway. Just look at Justin Bieber and Chris Brown.
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