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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 28, 2017 13:06:22 GMT -5
For some reason, I've just never liked this line:
Pardon me, you left your tears on the jukebox And I'm afraid they got mixed up with mine
-- George Strait, "Let's Fall to Pieces Together"
It tries way too hard to be a cute pickup line. Just always rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by Todd on Mar 12, 2017 11:41:08 GMT -5
She's my kind of rain Like love from a drunken sky Confetti falling down all night She's my kind of rain
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 13, 2017 12:47:33 GMT -5
She's my kind of rain Like love from a drunken sky Confetti falling down all night She's my kind of rain "She's My Kind of Rain" - Tim McGraw That one cycles back around to "so bad it's good" for me. Just like his wife's "Red Umbrella". I remember back when The 9513 was a thing, that co-writer Chris Lindsey tried to defend himself in the comments by pointing out that a lot of popular songs have nonsensical lyrics, citing a lot of Beatles songs as examples. The writer of the review kept replying that even most nonsensical sounding songs at least have structure. Judge for yourself: You can wear your sorrow like an old raincoat You can save your tears in a bottle made of gold But the glitter on the sidewalk always shines Yeah, even God needs to cry sometimes Your love is like a red umbrella Always there to make me better When my broken dreams Are fallin' from the sky
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2017 13:34:50 GMT -5
"Red Umbrella" has perfectly fine lyrics imo. I really like the imagery of a gold bottle, glitter on the sidewalk, and a red umbrella in particular. The concept of how rain is usually somber and something you dread going out into, but her having the red umbrella to shield her from the pain is a nice way of looking at it.
It's a shame they never made a real music video for it and we just got that live video where she wears that dress that decided it wanted to also be pants, which is all I can ever think about when I see it, lol.
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Post by Todd on Mar 13, 2017 20:35:13 GMT -5
Houston, Houston, mission control Does the earth still turn? Do the flowers still grow? Does my baby still love me? I sure wanna know Houston, Houston, mission control
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 13, 2017 20:44:00 GMT -5
"Red Umbrella" has perfectly fine lyrics imo. I think the lyrics are a mess, but just like with "She's My Kind of Rain" (speaking of rain metaphors!), I don't mind it. It somehow works for me in spite of itself.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 26, 2018 22:16:01 GMT -5
"How do you feel about a little romance Can i buy you a drink or do you wanna dance What do you think are you willing to take a chance"
-- Povertyneck Hillbillies, "Mr. Right Now" (did you even try?)
"And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden Have you forgotten?"
-- Darryl Worley, "Have You Forgotten?" (seriously, WHY AM I STILL HEARING THIS ON RADIO IN 2018)
"A woman loves beyond her questions And dreams beyond her doubts Her heart will lead and she will follow Even when there's no way out Her eyes refuse to see the danger As she walks right through the fire A man may give himself to passion and desire But a woman loves
-- Steve Wariner, "A Woman Loves" (this song just scans as really sexist to me)
"When it's hot, eat a root beer popsicle Shut off the AC and roll the windows down"
-- Tim McGraw, "Humble and Kind"
Yes, I'm in the right thread for that last one. "Bitterness keeps you from flying" is the same kind of meaningless platitude doled out in too many of these songs. It has no meaning and it doesn't flow.
Also, the three thoughts in the next line are unconnected. Why a root beer popsicle specifically? Those things are gross. The use of "roll the windows down" suggests a car, and I'm pretty sure you shouldn't eat a popsicle in a car. What does letting that summer sun shine have to do with the "stay humble and kind" theme?
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Post by austin on May 29, 2018 7:50:25 GMT -5
You stole my happy You made me cry You took the lonely and took me for a ride And I wanna un un un un undo it You had my heart now I want it back I'm starting to see everything you lack Boy you blew it You put me through it I wanna un un un un undo it Na na na na na Na na na na na Na na na na na na - "Undo It" Carrie Underwood
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Post by cousingerard on Sept 27, 2018 12:13:46 GMT -5
There should be a rule in country music against trying to rhyme "ain't" with "can't".. It always just sounds so forced. The most recent example I can think of is Eli Young Band's new single "Love Ain't".
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 16, 2019 22:55:07 GMT -5
Thought of another one: "Bridges and Walls" by the Oak Ridge Boys:
When hearts go to pieces Love crumbles and falls Like stones made of memories From bridges and walls
What is the second half of that line even supposed to mean? Bridges and walls don't usually go together.
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 16, 2019 23:05:15 GMT -5
Thought of another one: "Bridges and Walls" by the Oak Ridge Boys: When hearts go to pieces Love crumbles and falls Like stones made of memories From bridges and walls What is the second half of that line even supposed to mean? Bridges and walls don't usually go together. Bridges and walls can both be made of stones. It seems to me that even though bridges and walls are not exactly similar, the point is to convey the wide diversity of structures that could be composed of stones. I would also theorize that this verse is an analogy where memories are to hearts what stones are to bridges and walls.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 0:24:38 GMT -5
so i found this monstrosity today...
i'm pretty sure just about everything here would qualify but some of the lowlights are:
"Turn up on the weekend" This line sounds like some dad trying to be hip and cool with his son
"3 shots got me lookin' for a thick one" The usage of the phrase "thick one" always rubs me the wrong way and i don't know why honestly.
"Back at the crib, fresh bib" Do I even need to explain this?
"Yeah, I got the whole party lit" See my problem with the first line i posted
"Play Pong with some pretty señoritas" This should be self explanatory tbh
"Friday night, put your motherf**king dricks up It's friday night, baby put your f**king drinks up" This is some will.i.am level bad wordplay right here.
Also, these two people have made two other collaborations. I have the unfortunate experience of listening to both. Both have some stinkers in them too but this is honestly the worst of the three.
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Post by vamp111 on Feb 17, 2019 2:06:00 GMT -5
Chew tobacco, chew tobacco, chew tobacco, spit
Red red red red red red red red red red redneck
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 17, 2019 12:54:50 GMT -5
Bridges and walls can both be made of stones. It seems to me that even though bridges and walls are not exactly similar, the point is to convey the wide diversity of structures that could be composed of stones. I would also theorize that this verse is an analogy where memories are to hearts what stones are to bridges and walls. "Crumbles...like stones... from bridges and walls". Okay, that makes more sense. It's saying it crumbles like a stone bridge or a stone wall. It's still a little clunky, but I see what they were going for. It makes more sense now, and I withdraw listing it here. Can I still say that "More Trucks than Cars" had one of the most unwieldy hooks? And when Old Glory flies, we still hold our hands over our hearts Where there’s more trucks than carsI just never thought that flowed very well, even ignoring my disdain for jingoistic lyrics. The two pieces don't really flow together thematically. That whole song seems unnecessarily overwritten for what it is, but that line always stuck out to me.
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Feb 19, 2019 14:39:43 GMT -5
Chew tobacco, chew tobacco, chew tobacco, spit Red red red red red red red red red red redneck -Boys Round Here by Blake Shelton You're not wrong. This is obviously bad. But this song was so unashamedly dumb that I never minded the lyrics. Kind of like "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy"
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 8, 2019 23:16:04 GMT -5
How did I get through this thread without mentioning the last two verses of "Where I Come From" by AJ?
I was chasin' sun on 101 Somewhere around Ventura I lost a universal joint and I had to use my finger This tall lady stopped and asked If I had plans for dinner Said no thanks ma'am, back home We like the girls that sing soprano ... Well I was headed home on 65 Somewhere around Kentucky And the CB rang for a bobtail rig That's rollin' on like thunder Well I answered him and he asked me Aren't you from out in Tulsa No, but you might'a seen me there I just dropped a load of salsa
Some of the most dreadful slant-rhymes I've ever heard in my life. I have no idea what "used my finger" is supposed to mean (called a phone for help? hitchhiked?) And what's the bit about the tall lady? Is that a lame transphobic joke or something?
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Post by collinkottke on Apr 9, 2019 8:32:01 GMT -5
Some of the most dreadful slant-rhymes I've ever heard in my life. I have no idea what "used my finger" is supposed to mean (called a phone for help? hitchhiked?) And what's the bit about the tall lady? Is that a lame transphobic joke or something? "Use my finger" is slang for hitchhiked, yes. The tall lady line and girls who sing soprano line have to be analyzed together and I have always read into it that the lady that stopped was a bigger/overweight lady. So when she asks him to dinner, he says no we like the girls who sing soprano and I think that in most people's minds soprano's tend to be smaller/more petite women. Obviously that is extremely overgeneralized, but that's what I always read into the song. Granted, the transphobic angle, if you will, never crossed my mind before.
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Post by country11 on Apr 9, 2019 9:26:14 GMT -5
And of course, most of "Automatic", but you knew that already. What is wrong with "Automatic"?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 9, 2019 13:00:20 GMT -5
The tall lady line and girls who sing soprano line have to be analyzed together and I have always read into it that the lady that stopped was a bigger/overweight lady. So when she asks him to dinner, he says no we like the girls who sing soprano and I think that in most people's minds soprano's tend to be smaller/more petite women. Obviously that is extremely overgeneralized, but that's what I always read into the song. Granted, the transphobic angle, if you will, never crossed my mind before. Even if it's not transphobic, it's still sexist because it's saying that a tall, full figured woman with a deeper voice is not a real woman. And that still doesn't change the absolutely atrocious slant rhyming. What is wrong with "Automatic"? I hate media that sugarcoats the "good ol' days", especially from someone not old enough to remember them. The lyrics seem whiny and disjointed, and the second verse about boys asking girls and divorce not being an option feels anachronistic, sexist, and antipodal to the viewpoint of most other Miranda songs. Would she tell the protagonist of "Gunpowder & Lead" that staying married was the only way to work that out?
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Post by collinkottke on Apr 9, 2019 13:04:34 GMT -5
The tall lady line and girls who sing soprano line have to be analyzed together and I have always read into it that the lady that stopped was a bigger/overweight lady. So when she asks him to dinner, he says no we like the girls who sing soprano and I think that in most people's minds soprano's tend to be smaller/more petite women. Obviously that is extremely overgeneralized, but that's what I always read into the song. Granted, the transphobic angle, if you will, never crossed my mind before. Even if it's not transphobic, it's still sexist because it's saying that a tall, full figured woman with a deeper voice is not a real woman. And that still doesn't change the absolutely atrocious slant rhyming. I wouldn't say it's sexist and the lyric doesn't say anything about the woman not being a "real woman". The narrator just isn't attracted to her in a romantic sense. She asked him to dinner, it isn't sexist to turn down someone.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 9, 2019 13:13:25 GMT -5
Even if it's not transphobic, it's still sexist because it's saying that a tall, full figured woman with a deeper voice is not a real woman. And that still doesn't change the absolutely atrocious slant rhyming. I wouldn't say it's sexist and the lyric doesn't say anything about the woman not being a "real woman". The narrator just isn't attracted to her in a romantic sense. She asked him to dinner, it isn't sexist to turn down someone. I could see several interpretations here. But more so than anything else I just think that verse is really messily written. And that's my issue more so than any intended meaning.
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Apr 9, 2019 17:13:16 GMT -5
They said don't see him, She said his name is BillFaith Hill, "Wild One" Love this song but this line has always bothered me because it's so obvious that they did this to force a rhyme and it doesn't really "fit" (like I can't see the girl actually saying that his name is Bill in response to "don't see him."). Another example of using a name to force a rhyme is Kenny Chesney's "The Good Stuff": Was the sight of her holding my baby girlThe way she adored that string of pearlsI gave her the day that our youngest boy EarlMarried his high school loveI love the song, but that line always makes me laugh at how forced it is.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 9, 2019 20:13:01 GMT -5
They said don't see him, She said his name is BillFaith Hill, "Wild One" Love this song but this line has always bothered me because it's so obvious that they did this to force a rhyme and it doesn't really "fit" (like I can't see the girl actually saying that his name is Bill in response to "don't see him."). Another example of using a name to force a rhyme is Kenny Chesney's "The Good Stuff": Was the sight of her holding my baby girlThe way she adored that string of pearlsI gave her the day that our youngest boy EarlMarried his high school loveI love the song, but that line always makes me laugh at how forced it is. I'd take that over the four billionth girl/world rhyme, personally.
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Post by bboat11 on Apr 10, 2019 3:11:12 GMT -5
Even if it's not transphobic, it's still sexist because it's saying that a tall, full figured woman with a deeper voice is not a real woman. And that still doesn't change the absolutely atrocious slant rhyming. I wouldn't say it's sexist and the lyric doesn't say anything about the woman not being a "real woman". The narrator just isn't attracted to her in a romantic sense. She asked him to dinner, it isn't sexist to turn down someone. Oh yeah, THAT line... I have always interpreted it to be a transsexual encounter. Your interpretation of the lady being full-figured and therefore not likely to sing soprano just doesn't quite add up for me. First of all, given the overall demeanor of the song, I think that if that was what was intended the narrator would have had no problem saying "a big lady stopped" or "a fat lady stopped". The song is full of specific imagery, and there were definitely words that could have been chosen that would have indisputably supported your analysis; the fact that they weren't leads me to think something else is going on. And second of all, there is just as much pop culture to support the idea that a large lady can sing soprano! I mean, think of the classic idiom, "It's not over until the fat lady sings." Well, the stereotypical overweight opera singer is usually portrayed as being a soprano. I've even heard of some overweight women being more successful in the opera genre because their extra weight helped them to throw more oomph into their vocals (not sure if that is actually the way science works, but I've definitely also heard of overweight opera singers who lose a bunch of weight and then suddenly struggle because they can no longer support their sound properly anymore). But as it is, the chosen word is that she is a "tall" lady, immediately followed by the assertion that the narrator turns her down because she can't sing soprano. Given how much of a smart ass the narrator of the song is basically every time he talks, it would be perfectly in-character for him to turn down somebody he thought was a transvestite by making a wise crack about their inability to sing like a woman... I mean, this is a guy who's driving around the country getting pulled over for speeding in his truck fast enough to necessitate the officer drawing a gun on him, stopping for dinner and then insulting the waitress because she asked how his food was, bragging about his ultra-conservative values and how he lives his life at home sitting on a porch while his women bring him all the stereotypical Southern foods he could ever want... Lmao he's really an unpleasant person, so the transphobic joke just makes so much sense!
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Post by collinkottke on Apr 10, 2019 7:30:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's sexist and the lyric doesn't say anything about the woman not being a "real woman". The narrator just isn't attracted to her in a romantic sense. She asked him to dinner, it isn't sexist to turn down someone. Oh yeah, THAT line... I have always interpreted it to be a transsexual encounter. Your interpretation of the lady being full-figured and therefore not likely to sing soprano just doesn't quite add up for me. First of all, given the overall demeanor of the song, I think that if that was what was intended the narrator would have had no problem saying "a big lady stopped" or "a fat lady stopped". The song is full of specific imagery, and there were definitely words that could have been chosen that would have indisputably supported your analysis; the fact that they weren't leads me to think something else is going on. And second of all, there is just as much pop culture to support the idea that a large lady can sing soprano! I mean, think of the classic idiom, "It's not over until the fat lady sings." Well, the stereotypical overweight opera singer is usually portrayed as being a soprano. I've even heard of some overweight women being more successful in the opera genre because their extra weight helped them to throw more oomph into their vocals (not sure if that is actually the way science works, but I've definitely also heard of overweight opera singers who lose a bunch of weight and then suddenly struggle because they can no longer support their sound properly anymore). But as it is, the chosen word is that she is a "tall" lady, immediately followed by the assertion that the narrator turns her down because she can't sing soprano. Given how much of a smart ass the narrator of the song is basically every time he talks, it would be perfectly in-character for him to turn down somebody he thought was a transvestite by making a wise crack about their inability to sing like a woman... I mean, this is a guy who's driving around the country getting pulled over for speeding in his truck fast enough to necessitate the officer drawing a gun on him, stopping for dinner and then insulting the waitress because she asked how his food was, bragging about his ultra-conservative values and how he lives his life at home sitting on a porch while his women bring him all the stereotypical Southern foods he could ever want... Lmao he's really an unpleasant person, so the transphobic joke just makes so much sense! Woah. It's not an actual gun. The cop caught him speeding with his radar/speed gun. Where does he brag about any sort of conservative values? "Trying' to make a livin' and workin' hard to get to heaven"? I don't see that as bragging at all. That's just kind of a very vague life motto that I don't think is purely conservative at all. I don't see anywhere where it can be insinuated that "his women are bringing him" food. The only woman in his life that he really references is his mother and the only thing we know about her is she makes a better biscuit compared to a country kitchen south of Detroit. On the whole transsexual part, I'm very open to thinking that could be the case. When this song came out, I'm sure I didn't know that being transsexual was a thing so that would have never been an option, if you will, in young me's brain. (I apologize if that comes off insensitive, but that's the truth in my sheltered life)
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 10, 2019 10:13:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah, THAT line... I have always interpreted it to be a transsexual encounter. Your interpretation of the lady being full-figured and therefore not likely to sing soprano just doesn't quite add up for me. First of all, given the overall demeanor of the song, I think that if that was what was intended the narrator would have had no problem saying "a big lady stopped" or "a fat lady stopped". The song is full of specific imagery, and there were definitely words that could have been chosen that would have indisputably supported your analysis; the fact that they weren't leads me to think something else is going on. And second of all, there is just as much pop culture to support the idea that a large lady can sing soprano! I mean, think of the classic idiom, "It's not over until the fat lady sings." Well, the stereotypical overweight opera singer is usually portrayed as being a soprano. I've even heard of some overweight women being more successful in the opera genre because their extra weight helped them to throw more oomph into their vocals (not sure if that is actually the way science works, but I've definitely also heard of overweight opera singers who lose a bunch of weight and then suddenly struggle because they can no longer support their sound properly anymore). But as it is, the chosen word is that she is a "tall" lady, immediately followed by the assertion that the narrator turns her down because she can't sing soprano. Given how much of a smart ass the narrator of the song is basically every time he talks, it would be perfectly in-character for him to turn down somebody he thought was a transvestite by making a wise crack about their inability to sing like a woman... I mean, this is a guy who's driving around the country getting pulled over for speeding in his truck fast enough to necessitate the officer drawing a gun on him, stopping for dinner and then insulting the waitress because she asked how his food was, bragging about his ultra-conservative values and how he lives his life at home sitting on a porch while his women bring him all the stereotypical Southern foods he could ever want... Lmao he's really an unpleasant person, so the transphobic joke just makes so much sense! Woah. It's not an actual gun. The cop caught him speeding with his radar/speed gun. Where does he brag about any sort of conservative values? "Trying' to make a livin' and workin' hard to get to heaven"? I don't see that as bragging at all. That's just kind of a very vague life motto that I don't think is purely conservative at all. I don't see anywhere where it can be insinuated that "his women are bringing him" food. The only woman in his life that he really references is his mother and the only thing we know about her is she makes a better biscuit compared to a country kitchen south of Detroit. On the whole transsexual part, I'm very open to thinking that could be the case. When this song came out, I'm sure I didn't know that being transsexual was a thing so that would have never been an option, if you will, in young me's brain. (I apologize if that comes off insensitive, but that's the truth in my sheltered life) I used to think that the first half of the song was okay, but now I'm starting to see faults in the first couple verses too. (Although to be fair, the only diners I can think of south of Detroit don't seem like they would've been particularly fine establishments, but still. Don't insult your waitress.) Honestly, the song has a lot of the same faults as "Country Boy", which is by far my least favorite AJ song: horribly forced slant-rhymes, way too many verses, clunky melody, and lyrics that read as creepy or offensive ("I'm not a stalker", "Soft as baby's new butt", "Climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride" -- that's almost "pink umbrella in your drink" levels of single-entendre). He also changes lyrics between choruses for no reason (WICF has front porch/back porch pickin'/sittin', CB has country/winding roads, need to go/want to go).
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Apr 10, 2019 12:07:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's sexist and the lyric doesn't say anything about the woman not being a "real woman". The narrator just isn't attracted to her in a romantic sense. She asked him to dinner, it isn't sexist to turn down someone. But as it is, the chosen word is that she is a "tall" lady, immediately followed by the assertion that the narrator turns her down because she can't sing soprano. Given how much of a smart ass the narrator of the song is basically every time he talks, it would be perfectly in-character for him to turn down somebody he thought was a transvestite by making a wise crack about their inability to sing like a woman... I mean, this is a guy who's driving around the country getting pulled over for speeding in his truck fast enough to necessitate the officer drawing a gun on him, stopping for dinner and then insulting the waitress because she asked how his food was, bragging about his ultra-conservative values and how he lives his life at home sitting on a porch while his women bring him all the stereotypical Southern foods he could ever want... Lmao he's really an unpleasant person, so the transphobic joke just makes so much sense! Wow! That looks like about 90% projection because it's sure not in the song. - Bragging about what ultra-conservative values?? Sitting on a front porch? Working hard to get to heaven?
- He doesn't live his life on a front porch. He picks on the front porch after working hard (it's clearly written in the song)
- Wtf does he say anything about his women bringing him food?
- "His women"? Plural? Where do you get that?
- He is not driving fast enough for the officer to pull a gun on him
- The point of the second verse is that his mama is a better cook than some random bbq in Detroit. I guess you can take it as insulting but I don't see it that way.
You seem to equate southern conservatives to unpleasant people, which is nothing more than judgmental stereotyping. Particularly ironic, since its the alleged judgmental stereotyping on the part of the narrator which you are attacking.
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Post by bboat11 on Apr 10, 2019 19:20:14 GMT -5
But as it is, the chosen word is that she is a "tall" lady, immediately followed by the assertion that the narrator turns her down because she can't sing soprano. Given how much of a smart ass the narrator of the song is basically every time he talks, it would be perfectly in-character for him to turn down somebody he thought was a transvestite by making a wise crack about their inability to sing like a woman... I mean, this is a guy who's driving around the country getting pulled over for speeding in his truck fast enough to necessitate the officer drawing a gun on him, stopping for dinner and then insulting the waitress because she asked how his food was, bragging about his ultra-conservative values and how he lives his life at home sitting on a porch while his women bring him all the stereotypical Southern foods he could ever want... Lmao he's really an unpleasant person, so the transphobic joke just makes so much sense! Wow! That looks like about 90% projection because it's sure not in the song. - Bragging about what ultra-conservative values?? Sitting on a front porch? Working hard to get to heaven?
- He doesn't live his life on a front porch. He picks on the front porch after working hard (it's clearly written in the song)
- Wtf does he say anything about his women bringing him food?
- "His women"? Plural? Where do you get that?
- He is not driving fast enough for the officer to pull a gun on him
- The point of the second verse is that his mama is a better cook than some random bbq in Detroit. I guess you can take it as insulting but I don't see it that way.
You seem to equate southern conservatives to unpleasant people, which is nothing more than judgmental stereotyping. Particularly ironic, since its the alleged judgmental stereotyping on the part of the narrator which you are attacking.
That is a very interesting viewpoint! I would love to hear more about this projection theory. Does this mean that I am actually an undesirable person because I think that the narrator in that song is an undesirable person? All this time I've been wondering what's wrong with me! I would love to hash through the details of the song with you, but I am not totally sure that you actually want to have a productive conversation. I will just say this; of course I do not intend to equate conservative values with being an unpleasant person. However, being willfully ignorant is a trait that is commonly found among several people who come across as ultra-conservative, and I would absolutely say that somebody who is willfully ignorant is an undesirable person. And for the narrator to be the type of person who is speeding around telling waitresses their food wasn't as good as his mama's and making transphobic jokes, while simultaneously "working hard to get to heaven", gives me major vibes that he is the type of person who would be offering thoughts and prayers when he hears about people shooting children in the faces, but then get his panties all up in a bunch whenever reasonable adults suggest that maybe people should have to take a background check before they're allowed to purchase a military-grade weapon... Aka, a member of the willfully-ignorant. Granted, this is all my personal assessment of the song. If you interpret it differently, that is all fine and good! My only point was to explain why I personally think the mention of the "tall" lady is actually a transphobic joke, because the narrator seems like a bit of an unlikeable jack ass. I should also mention that my response was directed towards collinkottke , who is somebody that I get along with really well and have a good relationship with (we're George Strait buddies!! ), so I may have embellished on the details a tad to really make the narrator seem undesirable just because I know he and I understand each other. I wasn't aware I was going to have my response dissected and then submitted for congressional review, otherwise I probably would have taken more care not to mince words!
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Apr 11, 2019 14:03:44 GMT -5
That is a very interesting viewpoint! I would love to hear more about this projection theory. Does this mean that I am actually an undesirable person because I think that the narrator in that song is an undesirable person? All this time I've been wondering what's wrong with me! I used the word projection to mean "you're seeing something that isn't there". Please don't put words in my mouth; I didn't call you an undesirable person. I don't believe in calling people undesirable, especially when I don't know them. This is such a biased and unnecessary tangent, I'm not sure what relevance it has to the discussion. Stand by what you write, or don't. Especially when you are making clear statements that are likely to stir up dissent and are critical of others and their way of life. It seems we got a bit off topic, and I think we probably can agree it won't be beneficial to continue much further. As far as I'm concerned this is a good example of how differently people can interpret a song based on their experience and viewpoint.
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Post by bboat11 on Apr 11, 2019 16:50:15 GMT -5
That is a very interesting viewpoint! I would love to hear more about this projection theory. Does this mean that I am actually an undesirable person because I think that the narrator in that song is an undesirable person? All this time I've been wondering what's wrong with me! I used the word projection to mean "you're seeing something that isn't there". Please don't put words in my mouth; I didn't call you an undesirable person. I don't believe in calling people undesirable, especially when I don't know them. This is such a biased and unnecessary tangent, I'm not sure what relevance it has to the discussion. Stand by what you write, or don't. Especially when you are making clear statements that are likely to stir up dissent and are critical of others and their way of life. It seems we got a bit off topic, and I think we probably can agree it won't be beneficial to continue much further. As far as I'm concerned this is a good example of how differently people can interpret a song based on their experience and viewpoint. My apologies for the misunderstanding of your "projection" point. It seems like 90% of the time, when somebody uses that phrase on Pulse, it is in the context of accusing someone of not liking something because they are projecting their own insecurities onto the song. You know, like in recent times when Ten Pound Hammer has been told that he just doesn't like Dan + Shay because he must have never been in a relationship of his own... So that led to me misinterpreting the tone of your post, and probably responding harsher than I needed to. But yes, it really is amazing how different people can interpret songs differently! I think Ten Pound Hammer probably brought up some better points than I did with regards to why the song belongs in the 'Worst Lyrics' thread. The extremely questionable rhyming in particular has always been something that bothers me. I think I have had nightmares about that Tulsa/salsa rhyme before... Lol!
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