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Post by Caviar on Oct 13, 2016 19:04:23 GMT -5
A full month between ballots being due and nominations coming out, then a full month between ballots going out and being due, and then yet another full month between those ballots being due and the actual awards. That is way too long. I completely agree. Why does the process take so long when the Oscars and other award shows have their ceremony within 6 weeks from nominations. I mean almost 8 weeks between mailed ballots and nominations.
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Post by anafan on Oct 17, 2016 8:25:57 GMT -5
I read on Goldderby that the poster who has posted submissions the last couple of years has deleted their account so we may not get any submission lists this year unless it comes from another source.
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Post by Caviar on Oct 17, 2016 9:00:19 GMT -5
There's always more than 1 source. We'll still get them.
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Post by anafan on Oct 17, 2016 17:51:28 GMT -5
When the Grammy nominees are revealed on Dec. 8, one surefire contender will not be on the list: Frank Ocean, who released two albums -- Blonde and the "visual album" Endless -- in August. A source confirms to Billboard that neither album was submitted for consideration by Ocean's labels or management, even though both were released well before the 2017 Grammy eligibility cutoff date of Sept. 30, 2016. A rep for the Grammys confirmed that Ocean's albums had not been submitted for consideration. Reps for Ocean were not immediately available for comment or had not responded to Billboard's requests for comment at press time. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7542122/frank-ocean-disqualified-grammy-awards-2017
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 17, 2016 18:49:16 GMT -5
Oh shit.
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Post by Zach on Oct 17, 2016 19:03:11 GMT -5
Oh damn.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 17, 2016 20:54:26 GMT -5
He wasn't getting any major noms anyway, but he likely would have gotten an R&B nom or two.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 18, 2016 8:31:41 GMT -5
GoodT.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 18, 2016 14:32:04 GMT -5
I'm ok with that. The hype didn't measure up to the music, imo.
Honestly, I don't think he cares one way or another about this.
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Post by anafan on Oct 21, 2016 20:50:10 GMT -5
Friday, October 21, 2016 GREIN ON GRAMMYS: 17 SURPRISES ON THE BALLOT by Paul Grein If you’re a Grammy voter, you should have received your first-round ballot. It will direct you to dozens of lists of entries online, the result of months of diligent effort by Recording Academy personnel. As you start to wade through these lists, some things may catch you by surprise. Here’s a quick list of 17 things that leaped out at me. Paul Simon’s Stranger to Stranger is vying for a nomination in the category of Best Rock Album, rather than Best Pop Vocal Album. Simon has never won a Grammy in the rock field (though, of course, many of his albums pre-date the 1979 arrival of the rock field). David Bowie’s Blackstar is competing in the category of Best Alternative Music Album, rather than Best Rock Album. This is probably an acknowledgement of Bowie’s pioneering status as a genre-defying musician. Justin Timberlake’s “Can’t Stop the Feeling!” is competing for noms for Record of the Year and Song of the Year, as expected, but it’s not the solo version that debuted at #1. It’s the film version that features 10 other voice actors from the upcoming animated movie Trolls, including Anna Kendrick, Gwen Stefani, James Corden, Zooey Deschanel and Kunal Nayyar. These actors appeared in the song’s first music video. The strategy here may be to put the focus on the film, which comes out 11/4. Timberlake is no doubt hoping for an Oscar nomination for the song, which he co-wrote with Max Martin and Shellback. Margo Price’s critically lauded debut, Midwest Farmer’s Daughter, is competing for a nom for Best Americana Album, rather than Best Country Album. It was thought to be right on the line between the two genres. On the other hand, Sturgill Simpson’s A Sailor’s Guide to Earth, which was also thought to be right on the line, is competing for a nom for Best Country Album. His 2014 album, Metamodern Sounds in Country Music, was nominated for Best Americana Album. Shawn Mendes is competing for a Best New Artist nom. No one would argue with that. The talented teen had a terrific year. But, for the record, Mendes’ debut album, Handwritten, debuted at #1 in April 2015. In the old days, that would have been considered “achieving prominence.” The Lumineers’ sophomore album, Cleopatra, is competing for a nom for Best Americana Album, rather than Best Alternative Music Album. The group’s 2012 debut, The Lumineers, received a nom in the Americana category. Some thought Cleopatra might compete in the alternative category. “Ophelia,” the lead single from the album, is the year’s biggest alternative hit. Frank Ocean’s sophomore album, Blonde, wasn’t entered for Best Urban Contemporary Album or Album of the Year. Ocean’s debut album, channel ORANGE, won the urban contemporary award and was nominated for Album of the Year. Kendrick Lamar’s compilation, untitled unmastered., wasn’t entered for Best Rap Album or Album of the Year. Lamar’s third studio album, To Pimp a Butterfly, won the rap award and was nominated for Album of the Year. Evidently, his team wants to take a year off from the Grammy game and wait for his next proper studio album. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis’ sophomore album, This Unruly Mess I’ve Made, wasn’t entered for Best Rap Album or Album of the Year. The duo’s debut album, The Heist, won the rap award and was nominated for Album of the Year. The win in the latter category caused them some grief in the press—they beat the critically lauded Lamar. James Bay’s classy ballad “Let It Go” isn’t competing for Song of the Year. I had thought it would land a nomination. A live version of the song is competing for Record of the Year. (Live versions of songs are rarely nominated in that top category.) Bay was nominated for three Grammys last year, but he didn’t win. And “Let It Go” didn’t compete last year for Record or Song of the Year. Kelly Clarkson’s team decided to go with a version of “Piece by Piece” that she sang on American Idol, rather than the studio version (which made the Top 10). Her Idol version, you may remember, made judge Keith Urban tear up—which helped make the video go viral. “Piece by Piece (Idol Version)” is contending for noms for Record and Song of the Year. Fifth Harmony’s 7/27 is competing for a nom for Best Pop Vocal Album, rather than Best Urban Contemporary Album or Best R&B Album. At least the female quintet is somewhere. Tamar Braxton’s Calling All Lovers isn’t competing in any of these three categories. Eric Clapton’s I Still Do and Mudcrutch’s 2 are competing for noms for Best Americana Album, rather than Best Rock Album. Ray LaMontagne’s Ouroboros is competing for Best Rock Album. LaMontagne’s 2010 album God Willin’ & the Creek Don’t Rise won for Best Contemporary Folk Album. Blink-182’s California is competing for Best Rock Album rather than Best Alternative Music Album. The trio had one of the year’s biggest alternative hits with “Bored to Death.” Several other acts that had top alternative hits this year are also competing for Best Rock Album. Among them: The Strumbellas, Cage the Elephant, Nothing but Thieves and Kaleo. Esperanza Spalding, the surprise winner of Best New Artist six years ago, is competing for Best Alternative Music Album for Emily’s D+Evolution. Spalding’s previous studio album, Radio Music Society, won Best Jazz Vocal Album four years ago. Mac Miller’s The Divine Feminine and Ty Dolla Sign’s Free TC are competing for Best Urban Contemporary Album rather than Best Rap Album. hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=303496
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 22, 2016 8:38:00 GMT -5
Friday, October 21, 2016 GREIN ON GRAMMYS: 17 SURPRISES ON THE BALLOT by Paul Grein Justin Timberlake’s “Can’t Stop the Feeling!” is competing for noms for Record of the Year and Song of the Year, as expected, but it’s not the solo version that debuted at #1. It’s the film version that features 10 other voice actors from the upcoming animated movie Trolls, including Anna Kendrick, Gwen Stefani, James Corden, Zooey Deschanel and Kunal Nayyar. These actors appeared in the song’s first music video. The strategy here may be to put the focus on the film, which comes out 11/4. I think that will hurts its chances. Does that mean Twenty One Pilots is eligible, then? That should help Drake's chances for an AOTY nod. This is more proof this dude isn't really with it. "LIG" was never going to be eligible for SOTY because of its release date, and that's why the live version is being pushed (see "All of Me" and "Happy"). What happened there?
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Post by anafan on Oct 22, 2016 9:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by Zach on Oct 22, 2016 10:12:09 GMT -5
Does that mean Twenty One Pilots is eligible, then? How many studio albums have they released? Four?
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 22, 2016 10:44:01 GMT -5
EXCLUSIVE: We have Beyoncé's 2017 GRAMMY Submissions! Formation has been submitted for ROTY, SOTY, Rap/Sung Performance & Music Video! EXCLUSIVE: Beyoncé has submitted #LEMONADE for Album Of The Year, Urban Contemporary Album & Surround Sound Album at the 2017 GRAMMYs! Stay Tuned to @thebeyhiveteam for another BIG Beyoncé GRAMMY #EXCLUSIVE over the weekend! Is that it? I was expecting them to send more individual tracks. Why not "Sorry" to R&B Performance and R&B Song (or "Formation" to R&B Song), for example? Maybe that is an incomplete list.
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Post by anafan on Oct 22, 2016 10:59:19 GMT -5
mentions she did submit for R&B Song and R&B Performance. I'm not sure for which songs, though.
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 22, 2016 11:51:51 GMT -5
EXCLUSIVE: We have Beyoncé's 2017 GRAMMY Submissions! Formation has been submitted for ROTY, SOTY, Rap/Sung Performance & Music Video! EXCLUSIVE: Beyoncé has submitted #LEMONADE for Album Of The Year, Urban Contemporary Album & Surround Sound Album at the 2017 GRAMMYs! Stay Tuned to @thebeyhiveteam for another BIG Beyoncé GRAMMY #EXCLUSIVE over the weekend! Is that it? I was expecting them to send more individual tracks. Why not "Sorry" to R&B Performance and R&B Song (or "Formation" to R&B Song), for example? Maybe that is an incomplete list. I could do without her being in either those categories especially when "Formation" (imo) is a rap song. Honestly, I'm hoping that "Formation" does not get too many noms. It was cute for a moment, but it wasn't that big of a deal. Anyway, Tamar's label said forget her. I thought she would at least be submitted in a couple of categories. That's unfortunate. I guess with the recent label drop (?), they didn't care. I still wonder if Janet can get into Album (Contemporary). Hopefully Solange gets a nom or two along with Maxwell too.
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Post by Duca on Oct 22, 2016 12:31:44 GMT -5
Friday, October 21, 2016 GREIN ON GRAMMYS: 17 SURPRISES ON THE BALLOT by Paul Grein Justin Timberlake’s “Can’t Stop the Feeling!” is competing for noms for Record of the Year and Song of the Year, as expected, but it’s not the solo version that debuted at #1. It’s the film version that features 10 other voice actors from the upcoming animated movie Trolls, including Anna Kendrick, Gwen Stefani, James Corden, Zooey Deschanel and Kunal Nayyar. These actors appeared in the song’s first music video. The strategy here may be to put the focus on the film, which comes out 11/4. I think that will hurts its chances. It's basically the same: The only notable differences - Anna Kendrick sings the opening line and there's a minor change/improvement in lyrics: All through my city, all through my home We're flying up, no ceiling, when we're in our zoneis replaced with: And if you want it inside your soul Just open up your heart, let music take controlIt sounds more organic than the original which probably only increases its chances. I wonder if it will compete in Best Pop Duo/Group Performance, too, since he never really had a chance against Adele in Best Pop Solo Performance. He should win at least one Grammy for this (Best Song Written For Visual Media) but another one would be nice.
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Post by theonlyone on Oct 22, 2016 13:56:38 GMT -5
mentions she did submit for R&B Song and R&B Performance. I'm not sure for which songs, though. From what I can tell, the implication is it was for Formation.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 22, 2016 17:53:22 GMT -5
I think that will hurts its chances. It's basically the same: The only notable differences - Anna Kendrick sings the opening line and there's a minor change/improvement in lyrics: All through my city, all through my home We're flying up, no ceiling, when we're in our zoneis replaced with: And if you want it inside your soul Just open up your heart, let music take controlIt sounds more organic than the original which probably only increases its chances. I wonder if it will compete in Best Pop Duo/Group Performance, too, since he never really had a chance against Adele in Best Pop Solo Performance. He should win at least one Grammy for this (Best Song Written For Visual Media) but another one would be nice. I meant because of the credit, not the actual song; I don't think voters will be listening to the differences in the actual recordings to figure that out. I meant I can see voters being a bit turned off by all of the names as opposed to it just being JT. Having said that, I assume it now can't go Pop Solo and will be in Pop Duo/Group. It will probably have a better chance there since Adele will be in Pop Solo. That might be why they did it; it's a bit of a long shot in ROTY anyway.
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Post by anafan on Oct 24, 2016 18:48:20 GMT -5
Long interview on HDD: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=303503A mention of how nominees will be announced this year: With no show in December, how do you intend to announce the nominations? Last year, the first outlet to have the nominations in print was the Los Angeles Times. Would you repeat that exercise?PORTNOW: Yes, they were. It was an embargo situation. We’re looking at a multi-tiered approach. [Last year] we had some online parts, certain artists tweeting out to reach communities rather than think about one mass appeal shot. We look also to the Latin Academy, which had a virtual-reality promotion of the rollout, where major artists had PR messages reaching out to their fans. In December, we’ll roll out the nominations through a combination of social media and using the CBS platform, whether it’s morning shows or late-night shows. It’s all being finalized now.also: Obviously you don’t know what’s going to be in the show, but you have multiple superstars who have had great years—Adele, Drake, Beyoncé. Is it too early to start thinking about how you might want to use them, or do you need those nominations first?EHRLICH: There’s no question this year is going to be about Adele and Beyoncé and Drake. I think there is some really interesting new blood, and I’m looking at ways of putting them on the show.
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Post by mrossp24 on Oct 24, 2016 20:25:45 GMT -5
Long interview on HDD: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=303503A mention of how nominees will be announced this year: With no show in December, how do you intend to announce the nominations? Last year, the first outlet to have the nominations in print was the Los Angeles Times. Would you repeat that exercise?PORTNOW: Yes, they were. It was an embargo situation. We’re looking at a multi-tiered approach. [Last year] we had some online parts, certain artists tweeting out to reach communities rather than think about one mass appeal shot. We look also to the Latin Academy, which had a virtual-reality promotion of the rollout, where major artists had PR messages reaching out to their fans. In December, we’ll roll out the nominations through a combination of social media and using the CBS platform, whether it’s morning shows or late-night shows. It’s all being finalized now.also: Obviously you don’t know what’s going to be in the show, but you have multiple superstars who have had great years—Adele, Drake, Beyoncé. Is it too early to start thinking about how you might want to use them, or do you need those nominations first?EHRLICH: There’s no question this year is going to be about Adele and Beyoncé and Drake. I think there is some really interesting new blood, and I’m looking at ways of putting them on the show. That's so dumb lol. If you're not going to have a TV special, then just announce the nominations in the morning like every other award show...
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 25, 2016 8:39:00 GMT -5
^ Yes, especially since you can post them on social media at literally the exact same time for people who are working or whatever and can't watch TV. I guess they just want to drive people to their social media sites.
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Post by Duca on Nov 3, 2016 15:26:47 GMT -5
Some submissions:
Adele 25 Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album HELLO Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance Best Music Video
Ariana Grande DANGEROUS WOMAN Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album DANGEROUS WOMAN Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance SIDE TO SIDE Best Pop Duo/Group Performance INTO YOU Best Music Video
Beyoncé LEMONADE Album Of The Year Best Urban Contemporary Album FORMATION Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Rap/Sung Performance
(more to come)
Britney Spears GLORY Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album MAKE ME Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Best Music Video
Calvin Harris THIS IS WHAT YOU CAME FOR Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Dance Recording Best Music Video
Carrie Underwood STORYTELLER Album Of The Year Best Country Album HEARTBEAT Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Country Solo Performance Best Country Song Best Music Video CHURCH BELLS Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Country Solo Performance Best Country Song Best Music Video FOREVER COUNTRY Record Of The Year Best Country Duo/Group Performance THE FIGHTER Best Country Duo/Group Performance
Charlie Puth Best New Artist NINE TRACK MIND Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album WE DON'T TALK ANYMORE Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
Demi Lovato CONFIDENT Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album WITHOUT A FIGHT Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Country Duo/Group Performance Best Country Song Best Music Video STONE COLD Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance IRRESISTIBLE Best Rock Performance Best Music Video CONFIDENT Best Music Video
Fifth Harmony 7/27 Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album WORK FROM HOME Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Best Music Video
Justin Bieber PURPOSE Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album LOVE YOURSELF Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance COLD WATER Best Dance Recording LET ME LOVE YOU Best Dance Recording SORRY Best Music Video PURPOSE: THE MOVEMENT Best Music Film
Justin Timberlake CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! (Film Version) Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Best Song Written For Visual Media DRINK YOU AWAY Best Country Solo Performance Best Country Song CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! Best Music Video
Katy Perry RISE Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance Best Music Video Best Song Written For Visual Media
Kelly Clarkson PIECE BY PIECE (Idol Version) Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance
Lady Gaga PERFECT ILLUSION Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance Best Music Video
Meghan Trainor THANK YOU Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album NO Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance Best Music Video BETTER WHEN I'M DANCIN' Best Song Written For Visual Media
Nick Jonas LAST YEAR WAS COMPLICATED Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album CLOSE Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Best Music Video
P!nk JUST LIKE FIRE Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance Best Music Video Best Song Written For Visual Media SETTING THE WORLD ON FIRE Record Of The Year Best Country Duo/Group Performance RECOVERING Song Of The Year
Rihanna ANTI Album Of The Year Best Urban Contemporary Album WORK Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Best Music Video NEEDED ME Best R&B Performance Best R&B Song KISS IT BETTER Best Pop Solo Performance SLEDGEHAMMER Best Song Written For Visual Media
Selena Gomez REVIVAL Album Of The Year Best Pop Vocal Album SAME OLD LOVE Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Solo Performance HANDS TO MYSELF Best Music Video
I'll add more once available. :)
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 3, 2016 16:16:33 GMT -5
Some of these labels need to start knowing their worth and stop trying to make fetch happen because Fifth Harmony, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, and Charlie Puth's know damn well they can't even touch the "it doesn't hurt to try..." scenario because it will NEVER HAPPEN
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Post by Kurt on Nov 3, 2016 16:34:34 GMT -5
Céline better get that SOTY nomination for "Recovering!" (jk that's definitely not happening)
How is "Drink You Away" eligible when it wasn't commercially released during the past year (or the year before that, or the year before that)? Does the radio edit it received in November make it eligible even if it was only made available to radio?
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Post by Caviar on Nov 3, 2016 17:03:02 GMT -5
I knew Rihanna's team would lead with "Work" in th general categories and split up the pop and R&B categories.
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Post by Rican@ on Nov 3, 2016 17:12:46 GMT -5
I wish "Work" went in R&B, but I see what they are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 13:42:03 GMT -5
Some of these labels need to start knowing their worth and stop trying to make fetch happen because Fifth Harmony, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, and Charlie Puth's know damn well they can't even touch the "it doesn't hurt to try..." scenario because it will NEVER HAPPEN You mean for the general categories, right? Cause someone's gotta be the filler spot in pop album/pop solo. Any one of those will do without looking too crazy.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 4, 2016 13:46:07 GMT -5
Some of these labels need to start knowing their worth and stop trying to make fetch happen because Fifth Harmony, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, and Charlie Puth's know damn well they can't even touch the "it doesn't hurt to try..." scenario because it will NEVER HAPPEN You mean for the general categories, right? Cause someone's gotta be the filler spot in pop album/pop solo. Any one of those will do without looking too crazy. Yes for the AOTY, ROTY, and SOTY categories, especially the AOTY category though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 14:18:26 GMT -5
You mean for the general categories, right? Cause someone's gotta be the filler spot in pop album/pop solo. Any one of those will do without looking too crazy. Yes for the AOTY, ROTY, and SOTY categories, especially the AOTY category though. Yeah...I mean, hope springs eternal and all but I imagine if I were a voter I would probably be annoyed at the sheer volume of "bitch are you serious?" submissions that take up space in those categories every year. Poor Charlie, he wouldn't even have a chance at BNA. Daya, Alessia Cara, and Shawn Mendes would all crowd him out for the pop slot(s), not to mention country having both Cam and Maren Morris to try to squeeze in and Bryson and Chance having decent odds of getting in as the r&b and hip-hop reps, respectively. There's just not enough room for Charlie's tepid presence there. The Billboard article on the previous page mentioned Chainsmokers and Halsey as potential BNA contenders for some reason - but I don't believe either of them would be eligible, right?
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