Mike
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Post by Mike on Jun 9, 2016 17:00:21 GMT -5
In that case, you would take your business to amazon or some other site. You think that's what Apple wants? The more I think about it the less any of this makes sense. Time will tell I guess. Now that would be a huge disapointment. I don't stream music. Tried it, didn't like it. I just don't understand why they would get rid of paid downloads and I don't want to have to pay a monthly subscription fee for the rest of my life even if that gives me access to all the music in the world. Some might question your desire to pay $12 or so for one album when you can listen to any album at any time for less than one album purchase per month. The difference is that I get to keep that album forever and ever (and ever, and ever...) if I buy the album while if I subscribe to Apple Music/Spotify I will need to pay 12$ every month for the rest of my life to keep listening to that same album. I get the appeal of streaming don't get me wrong I just don't see why Apple would want to offer only one of the two services.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 17:47:23 GMT -5
^ Mike I totally understand. Like I said, I'm a collector. I enjoy it and I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. I do think that for every disadvantage there is likely at least one advantage there somewhere, probably several, and vice versa. This applies to a lot of things in life. But in this context, for example, I know I've purchased many albums in a physical format over the years that had to be replaced because they were either lost, stolen or damaged. I have to pay $10-20 again to replace one album. Subscription streaming takes that potential issue out of the equation, plus it allows me to listen to thousands of albums rather than just one, and I consider that an advantage. I also spend WAY more than $12 a month on albums, so obviously it's more cost effective for me. Convenience, for me, is another advantage that I think streaming has. Paying however much a month for unlimited access to music without having to put it on a device, store it, load, unload, or toy with a CD is something I personally consider an advantage. I had my years of enjoying my "CD wall", and I'm still currently enjoying my iTunes full of all my music and custom playlists. So until streaming becomes more like my current iTunes experience, I'm not 100% in on the whole streaming thing as a replacement for my digital collection. Not yet. But I reckon the day will come and I'm open to its potential. As for Apple's future... I look at it knowing it will be a different time and place. So while certain things may seem crazy now, by the time they potentially do go streaming-only, for example, it will be because that will be the norm at that point. It's hard to imagine now, but so were a lot of things that I've witnessed in my life. Things just happen sometimes. Sometimes gradually. For the record, this is all intended to be purely conversational. Sharing thoughts and personal experience. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Everything has advantages and disadvantages, and we all weigh them differently and have our preferences. I just think staying open to different concepts and ways of doing things is healthy, so I personally have slowly started accepting the advantages of streaming (along with the obvious disadvantage of not owning my music) and have begun weighing everything... thinking maybe someday I'll be all in. Who knows.
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trebor
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Post by trebor on Aug 9, 2016 9:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Aug 9, 2016 10:31:31 GMT -5
...and people said I was wrong.
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Bigfatliar 3
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cool people call songs "joint" which is little inappropriate to me cuz i think of an elbow or someth
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Aug 9, 2016 11:13:35 GMT -5
Well, nowadays artist revenue growth is mostly coming from streaming which is youtube and spotify dominate the streaming service..this is a time bomb for Apple if they dont make any moves.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 9, 2016 11:37:42 GMT -5
Except they didn't really "drop" music downloads in Korea. Apple's music download store has never existed in Korea in the first place so that's not the case here. You have to consider the local distinctiveness of the market first. South Korea has one of the largest digital music markets worldwide but Apple just couldn't break into this established market for all these years. And now they know it's impossible and probably too late to properly introduce iTMS to Korea and Apple Music gave them an opportunity to finally penetrate the unique market. So they just decided to launch the streaming service only, which was much easier. Obviously, it was the only way to enter the market and they had no choice but to do so. And according to the article, they couldn't even make the biggest labels in Korea jump on board so had to start a half-ass service. It's a very tough market for them and I'm pretty sure this decision has nothing to do with their alleged plan to completely abandon the sales worldwide.
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 9, 2016 12:45:59 GMT -5
I've been bracing myself for this change. In the early 90's I was so reluctant to move from cassettes to CD's. I don't know why, fear of the unknown perhaps (?)...lol...but I still had a physical copy of what I wanted regardless. This streaming thing is going to be a whole new thing for me (and for many in my age group and up who just aren't as used to the concept yet). I guess I'll still buy the albums that I feel I need in physical form (for now, I guess, until physical goes away completely one day?) and then subscribe monthly for other stuff. I don't know what to do really. If I buy a physical album and then also subscribe monthly to streaming, I'm in essence paying for that same album twice (albeit with streaming I'd get a whole whack of other content in addition). I downloaded Spotify for the first time today. Wish me luck.
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Juanca
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Post by Juanca on Aug 9, 2016 13:13:44 GMT -5
I'm old guard still I haven't subscribed to Spotify. I tried Tidal for free (good as I could listen to Anti, which I haven't bought yet, and Lemonade, which I bought later, and other new stuff). Why not streaming? I like keeping MY copies of stuff, like pictures, documents, music, etc. Plus, I have music that isn't available to stream because it's foreign :) Plus I travel a lot for work and pleasure and I want to have easy access to my music while I'm in Malawi or Philippines or Peru or in my 15-hour travel time without needing to rely on available reliable internet connection or having to pay a lot of data money By the way, I read somewhere that iTunes can update/replace your audio files (?) with the official iTunes version -anyone knows about this or is it another myth? Anyways I think consumer choice is always good and hopefully that'll be maintained. I buy CDs of my favorite artists (appreciate the booklets!), buy digital music easily, stream through YouTube to find new stuff or specific stuff I wanna hear. Hope all survive and don't go the route of 78" discs
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 9, 2016 14:49:17 GMT -5
I have Spotify downloaded, and used it (free version) here and there at first, but don't really use it now (my partner pays the monthly subscription and uses it often). I mean, it's great to have all that music at your fingertips, but I still listen to my CDs. I don't buy like I used to (which is the national trend), but if it's an act and/or album I really like, I get it.
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Post by ilikemusic on Aug 9, 2016 17:24:56 GMT -5
I'm never going to subscribe to a streaming service. The music industry is making a big mistake if they take away digital downloads, especially in the U.S. I like OWNING music, not renting it. If that actually happens, online piracy is going to surge again.
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