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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 26, 2016 20:20:40 GMT -5
i was wondering... do u think she bought the rights to her own catalogue (released & unreleased) or rca has it? if hope she got them, i think it's more likely we get unreleased stuff here & there from her than from them, like the Already Famous stuff I hope so too, but honestly I kinda doubt she bought them.
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 27, 2016 7:55:24 GMT -5
Kelly cannot afford the rights to her catalog. There is 0% chance she owns them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 13:11:09 GMT -5
i was wondering... do u think she bought the rights to her own catalogue (released & unreleased) or rca has it? if hope she got them, i think it's more likely we get unreleased stuff here & there from her than from them, like the Already Famous stuff Does anyone more familiar with the industry know offhand how unreleased songs are customarily handled when an artist changes labels? My understanding is the label owns the recordings, not the songs themselves, but I'm not an expert on this stuff. I don't much care that RCA still owns the released tracks, I don't need another Greatest Hits album. And there are worse things than having RCA release more stuff from the vault. But I'd hate to see RCA own the rights to a bunch of things and just sit on them. It can vary, but more often than not labels own any recordings made under their watch and/or on their dime, so to speak. JoJo had to leave all her stuff behind when she finally got away from Blackground, and Dr. Dre seemed to imply the same happened to him when he finally left Death Row (he said he didn't get what he should have, but his freedom was enough). When Alicia Keys was signed to her first deal with Columbia she said she had to fight tooth and nail to be able to take the songs that she had submitted and that they had deemed 'unreleasable,' but didn't want to let her walk away with. It gets trickier when you're dealing with mixtapes, which is more of a hip-hop or r&b thing. The songs from the AIEW preshows might fall under this gray area too, since she performed them in public. If she never actually submitted recorded versions of those songs to the label/she recorded everything with her own equipment and money, she might get to keep those, but I really can't call that one.
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Post by Focus on Jun 27, 2016 13:13:03 GMT -5
Here is a list of the fan requests, courtesy bixblitz at the KCE. She will be updating them as to the date Kellyclarksonlive.com posts them:
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Post by QAF on Jun 27, 2016 13:24:17 GMT -5
Wow!
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Post by ampersand on Jun 27, 2016 13:32:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it's even financially possible for Kelly to buy her entire catalog from RCA. It must be worth millions, and I sincerely doubt RCA would want to part with the continued royalties they're getting from her albums and singles. I'm wondering, however, if Kelly will continue promoting Wrapped in Red every Christmas season. I know she said Miracle on Broadway will be an annual thing, but I'm not sure if RCA/Kelly will push more singles or even continue promoting the ones they've already released, or how that would work with her now being at Atlantic. The world still hasn't heard "Winter Dreams," and I was hoping "Underneath the Tree" would eventually become a Christmas classic.
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 27, 2016 17:28:13 GMT -5
It is possible that Kelly recorded a lot of stuff on her own dime and can release that material if she wants. I doubt it but in the end I would rather her be happy and make great music than release us old material.
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Post by xline06 on Jun 27, 2016 17:31:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it's even financially possible for Kelly to buy her entire catalog from RCA. It must be worth millions, and I sincerely doubt RCA would want to part with the continued royalties they're getting from her albums and singles. I'm wondering, however, if Kelly will continue promoting Wrapped in Red every Christmas season. I know she said Miracle on Broadway will be an annual thing, but I'm not sure if RCA/Kelly will push more singles or even continue promoting the ones they've already released, or how that would work with her now being at Atlantic. The world still hasn't heard "Winter Dreams," and I was hoping "Underneath the Tree" would eventually become a Christmas classic. I don't think so. I think that RCA would want any promotions about Wrapped In Red "but" Kelly had babies so it didn't seem to be easy for her and the previous label. Anyway, Kelly can sing any songs from her own catalog. The only thing I have is the certification. She did get under-certificates from her previous works. Many singles haven't been updated yet by RIAA! That's so unfair... She's one of the digital sellers in mid 2000s. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 5xp Since U Been Gone 3xp My Life Would Suck Without You 3xp Breakaway 2xp Because Of You 2xp Already Gone 2xp Mr. Know It All 1xp Catch My Breath 1xp Never Again 1xp Walk Away 1xp Where are they???
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Jun 27, 2016 20:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 28, 2016 0:45:23 GMT -5
Random question, but will Kelly continue to get royalties from her catalog sales for her RCA albums?
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 28, 2016 8:40:02 GMT -5
Yes. She will also get paid for public performances of the songs she helped write - whether she is singing them or not. I also think she'll get royalties from streaming too. Her leaving RCA doesn't change her interest in the songs she wrote and/or recorded while with them.
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Post by Focus on Jun 28, 2016 12:04:04 GMT -5
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Post by pce2b on Jun 28, 2016 14:58:31 GMT -5
This just dawned on me - do you guys think this will affect her chances for grammy nominations for Piece by Piece (the song)? I saw that as a Song of the Year contender for sure, but I don't think RCA has any incentive to nominate it now.
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Post by Rosaliner on Jun 28, 2016 15:17:12 GMT -5
If anything, they have a bigger incentive/reason to try to get a nomination, since it would be their last big chance to make a few bucks out of Kelly's music. (Im pretty sure they would be more than happy to sell a couple k copies of a 2yo old album).
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Post by xline06 on Jun 28, 2016 16:20:11 GMT -5
This just dawned on me - do you guys think this will affect her chances for grammy nominations for Piece by Piece (the song)? I saw that as a Song of the Year contender for sure, but I don't think RCA has any incentive to nominate it now. - Best Pop Vocal Performance - Song Of The Year - Record Of The Year I think that Piece By Piece (Idol Version) can get A nomination at least among above categories because Piece By Piece has been already nominated on Best Pop Vocal Album this year. Especially, Best Pop Vocal would be best result.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 17:18:52 GMT -5
This just dawned on me - do you guys think this will affect her chances for grammy nominations for Piece by Piece (the song)? I saw that as a Song of the Year contender for sure, but I don't think RCA has any incentive to nominate it now. Any member of the Recording Academy can submit an artist or piece of work, so even if RCA no longer felt any incentive to push for some PxP nominations, Atlantic might find it worth their time to do so (or Kelly could even submit herself). Touting new nominations/wins she's gotten since signing with Atlantic (even if it is for material she released beforehand) would be an excellent way to kick off press for her new era. It only "affects" her chances in that RCA might have artists still on its roster that it tries to push to be nominated, but that's just the nature of competition.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 28, 2016 17:26:41 GMT -5
This new direction will be interesting. I'm perched
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Jun 28, 2016 18:27:57 GMT -5
Okay so what does a label change have an influence on? This is not the first and certainly not the last time an artist has changed their label. Her discography won't srop selling! Breakaway will certainly sell thousands of copies in the next years.. and My December will probably sell 10 copies and people, including Kelly, will have to get paid. PxP needs to get nominated! I don't see why a label change should destroy one of the biggest viral moments of this year.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 28, 2016 22:16:52 GMT -5
I think that this is a welcome change for a lot of fans.
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Post by QAF on Jun 29, 2016 15:47:47 GMT -5
What are everyone's feelings about the chances of PXP actually nabbing a Grammy win?
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 29, 2016 15:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 29, 2016 16:26:26 GMT -5
Strongly disagree.... Her American Idol performance was one of the biggest viral events this year. That song really resonated with the audience, and it performed well enough that it garnered attention. If AIEW could get a nomination, I think PxP the song could definitely get one (if not several). Kelly is a reputable artist who fits the mold of a Grammy winner, and critics and industry voters respect her talent. I'd be really surprised if she got overlooked.
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Post by ampersand on Jun 29, 2016 16:28:04 GMT -5
Considering HBS was able to snag a nomination for Best Pop Solo Performance, it seems possible for PxP to get a nod. But actually winning? I'm not so sure about that.
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Post by Peterawr on Jun 29, 2016 17:22:24 GMT -5
Had the performance happened closer to when songs are submitted and fresh in peoples' minds, I think it would have a huge shot of being nominated. Kelly has been a dark horse in Grammy wins so who knows haha.
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Post by karatekid on Jun 29, 2016 18:15:25 GMT -5
I think a nomination would be great if it happens. A win would probably be unlikely but it be such an honor for that song to get nom!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 22:43:06 GMT -5
Nominations are good possibilities but a win is very unlikely with Adele in the mix.
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 30, 2016 21:04:41 GMT -5
Is it even eligible? The album was nominated for pop album. Doesn't that disqualify every song on the album from future Grammys?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 21:15:29 GMT -5
Is it even eligible? The album was nominated for pop album. Doesn't that disqualify every song on the album from future Grammys? I'm just now realizing that I brainfarted and referred to the era as if the album hadn't already been nominated once, but an artist can be nominated for alternate versions of a song from an otherwise too-old album, and there are several instances of that happening. (Beyonce even got nominated for a live version of Halo when the recorded version had already won the category the year before!) Most of the time the 'alternate' version is a live recording, but in Kelly's case she can submit either the Idol or radio mix of PxP (obviously the Idol version is the one that should be sent in).
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 30, 2016 21:46:26 GMT -5
Is it even eligible? The album was nominated for pop album. Doesn't that disqualify every song on the album from future Grammys? I don't think it does since the album didn't win anything, but I'm not sure on those rules. Either way, this isn't a problem for Kelly since the Idol version is on a different album entirely--the Piece By Piece Remix album.
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Post by Mike on Jun 30, 2016 22:02:11 GMT -5
Is it even eligible? The album was nominated for pop album. Doesn't that disqualify every song on the album from future Grammys? If she had won Pop Vocal Album, none of the songs from the release would be eligible this year. However, since PxP (Idol Version) was released separately it would still be eligible either way since 1) it was released separately & 2) the parent album didn't win this year.
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