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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:53:04 GMT -5
"The third and final ballot will be emailed to CMA members Thursday, October 10. Voting for the CMA Awards final ballot ends Tuesday, October 25 (6:00 PM/CT)." www.cmaworld.com/cma-awards/2016/05/05/balloting-season-cma-3/Side note: this would have been my reaction if I were Lady A getting a nomination for Vocal Group: I don't think you have to worry about Lady Antebellum EVER winning Vocal Group again. This is not like the Need You Now era (2009-2011). But they were on hiatus so do they really deserve a Vocal Group nomination when they didn't even release anything to radio or release any new music. No offense.
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Post by zaclord π on Sept 1, 2016 13:53:41 GMT -5
"The third and final ballot will be emailed to CMA members Thursday, October 10. Voting for the CMA Awards final ballot ends Tuesday, October 25 (6:00 PM/CT)." www.cmaworld.com/cma-awards/2016/05/05/balloting-season-cma-3/Side note: this would have been my reaction if I were Lady A getting a nomination for Vocal Group: I don't think you have to worry about Lady Antebellum EVER winning Vocal Group again. This is not like the Need You Now era (2009-2011). I was not I suggesting they would win (hence my predictions a couple posts prior). I was merely using a pop culture reference to poke fun at the fact that Lady A was broken up this past year and yet they still scored a nomination. However, I wouldn't count them out for NEVER winning again. I think if they have a big comeback this upcoming year, we could see them contending for some awards again in the future.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 1, 2016 14:12:03 GMT -5
^ and ^^: Even I know Lady Antebellum's last single, Long Stretch Of Love peaked at #16 a full year ago (maybe a little longer). There is NO way they are going to win. They were nominated as a place holder group. Just like Miranda Lambert should not be winning anything because of how inactive she was during the nominating time period (7-15 to 6-16).
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 1, 2016 14:28:58 GMT -5
The LA nom is parallel to Sugarland's nomination in Duo a couple years ago, after they flat-out announced their indefinite hiatus and didn't release any new music during the time period at all.
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Post by josephmorgan on Sept 1, 2016 14:54:09 GMT -5
Couple of surprises in the Broadcast nominees:
1. Blair Garner getting a nod for his morning show in his final week on the air.
2. My home state of Wisconsin getting love with both WCOW and their morning team of Ben & Arnie. Ironically, the Ben half of the team used to be at radio station WYTE, which is located in my area.
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Post by vann on Sept 1, 2016 15:07:21 GMT -5
My predictions who is gonna win!
Entertainer of the Year
Garth Brooks Luke Bryan Chris Stapleton Carrie Underwood Keith Urban
It wont surprise me if Luke wins but I think Carrie has a better chance this year.
Male Vocalist Dierks Bentley Eric Church Tim McGraw Chris Stapleton Keith Urban
I would like to see Dierks gets it but at the moment I think Stapleton is going to keep being the man on this category.
Female Vocalist
Kelsea Ballerini Miranda Lambert Maren Morris Kacey Musgraves Carrie Underwood
I really hope Miranda doesnt take this award this year.
Album
Black, Dierks Bentley Hero, Maren Morris Mr. Misunderstood, Eric Church Ripcord, Keith Urban Storyteller, Carrie Underwood
I havent listened to all of these albums but my prediction is going to Eric (everyone but Keith on it).
Single "Die A Happy Man", Thomas Rhett "Humble and Kind", Tim McGraw "My Church", Maren Morris "Nobody To Blame", Chris Stapleton "Record Year", Eric Church
Song "Burning House", Cam "Die A Happy Man", Thomas Rhett "Humble and Kind", Tim McGraw "My Church", Maren Morris "Record Year", Eric Church
Vocal Group Lady Antebellum Little Big Town Old Dominion Rascal Flatts Zac Brown Band
I love Lady A but they are on hiatus so I hope Old Dominion take this category.I am tired of watching LBT getting it.
Vocal Duo Brothers Osborne Dan + Shay Florida Georgia Line Joey + Rory Maddie & Tae
New Artist Kelsea Ballerini Brothers Osborne Maren Morris Old Dominion Cole Swindell
It wouldnt be my choice but I think Kelsea can get it.I would like to see Brothers Osborne or even OD taking it.
Musical Event "Different For Girls", Dierks Bentley/Elle King "Home Alone Tonight", Luke Bryan/Karen Fairchild "The Fighter", Keith Urban/Carrie Underwood "Think of You", Chris Young/Cassadee Pope "You Are My Sunshine", Morgane Stapleton/Chris Stapleton
I would love watching Chris Young taking this award but maybe Stapleton gets it.
Music Video "Burning House", Cam "Fire Away", Chris Stapleton "Humble and Kind", Tim McGraw "Record Year", Eric Church "Somewhere On A Beach", Dierks Bentley
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 1, 2016 17:29:58 GMT -5
I'm ALL for Old Dominion winning the group award but I suspect that ZBB will win it (thanks to BMLG affiliation) and then Old Dominion slides into long-term Band post in 17+
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 1, 2016 19:21:30 GMT -5
I have a question? How come it was Kacey Musgraves over Cassadee Pope. Cassadee Pope had a number one single. Kacey didn't even chart any singles that did good on radio. That's the only nomination I had a problem with, besides Lady A.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 19:24:04 GMT -5
I have a question? How come it was Kacey Musgraves over Cassadee Pope. Cassadee Pope had a number one single. Kacey didn't even chart any singles that did good on radio. That's the only nomination I had a problem with, besides Lady A. Name recognition and Kacey Musgraves I think sells out more shows than Cassadee Pope.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 1, 2016 19:27:30 GMT -5
I have a question? How come it was Kacey Musgraves over Cassadee Pope. Cassadee Pope had a number one single. Kacey didn't even chart any singles that did good on radio. That's the only nomination I had a problem with, besides Lady A. Name recognition and Kacey Musgraves I think sells out more shows than Cassadee Pope. I like kacey but her type of songs like "Biscuits" "Trailer" are starting too get annoying.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Sept 1, 2016 19:37:19 GMT -5
I have a question? How come it was Kacey Musgraves over Cassadee Pope. Cassadee Pope had a number one single. Kacey didn't even chart any singles that did good on radio. That's the only nomination I had a problem with, besides Lady A. Can't stand Kacey's attitude tbh. Would much rather Cassadee be nominated.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 1, 2016 19:51:23 GMT -5
Kacey Musgraves had a very successful year of touring, released both "Dimestore Cowgirl" and the remix of "Waves" with Miguel, a video with Willie Nelson for "Are You Sure?," and made several high-profile appearances on TV shows, including performances on Kimmel, Colbert, and Corden. Her nomination is valid.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 19:56:03 GMT -5
I did a little research and Carrie is only the 14th female act (15th if you count Jennifer Nettles by herself) to be nominated for EOTY. And hopefully when she wins she'll be the 8th female EOTY! Go Carrie, go!
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 1, 2016 20:02:14 GMT -5
I did a little research and Carrie is only the 14th female act (15th if you count Jennifer Nettles by herself) to be nominated for EOTY. And hopefully when she wins she'll be the 8th female EOTY! Go Carrie, go! She so, so, sooooo deserves to be among the very few female Entertainer of the Year winners... Taylor Swift (2009, 2011) Dixie Chicks (2000) Shania Twain (1999) Reba McEntire (1986) Barbara Mandrell (1980, 1981) Dolly Parton (1978) Loretta Lynn (1972) Such an iconic list!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 20:06:19 GMT -5
I did a little research and Carrie is only the 14th female act (15th if you count Jennifer Nettles by herself) to be nominated for EOTY. And hopefully when she wins she'll be the 8th female EOTY! Go Carrie, go! She so, so, sooooo deserves to be among the very few female Entertainer of the Year winners... Taylor Swift (2009, 2011) Dixie Chicks (2000) Shania Twain (1999) Reba McEntire (1986) Barbara Mandrell (1980, 1981) Dolly Parton (1978) Loretta Lynn (1972) Such an iconic list! Right, no one more deserving this year for sure.
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Post by toomuchboy on Sept 1, 2016 20:07:19 GMT -5
Wow, I can't believe Sara Evans or (especially) Faith Hill never won EotY. Either way, I'd be very happy for Carrie if she won. The past few years of CMA bias makes me hesitant to believe it'll happen though. I wish she'd win Entertainer and Female Vocalist; Storyteller was fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 20:14:29 GMT -5
Wow, I can't believe Sara Evans or (especially) Faith Hill never won EotY. Either way, I'd be very happy for Carrie if she won. The past few years of CMA bias makes me hesitant to believe it'll happen though. I wish she'd win Entertainer and Female Vocalist; Storyteller was fantastic. I can potentially see Faith Hill in the 1999 to 2001 range. But I can't see it for Sara Evans. When Sara Evans arguably was her biggest in 2004 to 2005. But during that time the acts that were hitting their stride even better than Sara Evans were Rascal Flatts, Kenny Chesney, Brad Paisley, and Keith Urban. I do think Faith Hill had a legitimate shot a couple of times, but I never thought for one second Sara Evans deserved to win Entertainer of the Year.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 1, 2016 20:27:31 GMT -5
*Maybe* Faith Hill or Jo Dee Messina in the late 90s/very early 2000s, but aside from those two I don't think there were any female country acts that are notably missing from that list that should be on there besides Carrie Underwood, who is definitely the most deserving female act in the genre in the past decade to win an EOTY award if she gets it.
And lol @ Cassadee Pope being a possible nominee over Kacey Musgraves. "Think of You" was big but it really didn't matter what female act was on that with Chris Young, as we can see with how "Summer" fared at country radio afterwards. If anyone deserved Kacey Musgraves' spot, it was Cam because she actually had a big hit (of her own) and has gotten quite a bit of buzz and acclaim despite "Mayday" flopping ("Burning House" was nominated for several things too so...).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 20:34:24 GMT -5
*Maybe* Faith Hill or Jo Dee Messina in the late 90s/very early 2000s, but aside from those two I don't think there were any female country acts that are notably missing from that list that should be on there besides Carrie Underwood, who is definitely the most deserving female act in the genre in the past decade to win an EOTY award if she gets it. And lol @ Cassadee Pope being a possible nominee over Kacey Musgraves. "Think of You" was big but it really didn't matter what female act was on that with Chris Young, as we can see with how "Summer" fared at country radio afterwards. If anyone deserved Kacey Musgraves' spot, it was Cam because she actually had a big hit (of her own) and has gotten quite a bit of buzz and acclaim despite "Mayday" flopping ("Burning House" was nominated for several things too so...). See, I think Tammy Wynette should have won, what's sad is she wasn't even nominated for EOTY during her career.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 1, 2016 20:38:28 GMT -5
@adam1995 oh, okay, well I would've certainly been okay with that, too! I was just thinking in terms of the last couple decades since people were discussing 90s/2000s acts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 20:43:25 GMT -5
@adam1995 oh, okay, well I would've certainly been okay with that, too! I was just thinking in terms of the last couple decades since people were discussing 90s/2000s acts. Gotcha, yeah there aren't that many other women I could see winning. Faith maybe around 2000. But Reba should have won another one during the early 90s.
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Post by desertfloods on Sept 1, 2016 21:16:39 GMT -5
I have a question? How come it was Kacey Musgraves over Cassadee Pope. Cassadee Pope had a number one single. Kacey didn't even chart any singles that did good on radio. That's the only nomination I had a problem with, besides Lady A. Call me unreasonable, but I can't get past the fact that Cassadee's only reason for being in country genre is because it's her best shot at getting any success post-The Voice.
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Post by tonyei31 on Sept 1, 2016 21:41:35 GMT -5
Couple of surprises in the Broadcast nominees: 1. Blair Garner getting a nod for his morning show in his final week on the air. 2. My home state of Wisconsin getting love with both WCOW and their morning team of Ben & Arnie. Ironically, the Ben half of the team used to be at radio station WYTE, which is located in my area. YOu and I must live in the same area. Love COW and glad to see them get representation. Their station is a hidden gem playing all scopes of modern top 40 to yesteryears top 50 and so many "lost songs". Heard "What are you listening to" by Chris Stapleton last week during a morning show. Also heard "I got more" by Cole Deggs and the Lonesome last week. It's amazing the greatness of that station WYTE and WAXX are rough.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 1, 2016 21:44:47 GMT -5
Couple of surprises in the Broadcast nominees: 1. Blair Garner getting a nod for his morning show in his final week on the air. 2. My home state of Wisconsin getting love with both WCOW and their morning team of Ben & Arnie. Ironically, the Ben half of the team used to be at radio station WYTE, which is located in my area. YOu and I must live in the same area. Love COW and glad to see them get representation. Their station is a hidden gem playing all scopes of modern top 40 to yesteryears top 50 and so many "lost songs". Heard "What are you listening to" by Chris Stapleton last week during a morning show.Β Also heard "I got more" by Cole Deggs and the Lonesome last week. It's amazing the greatness of that station WYTE and WAXX are rough.Β Major props for working in a "I Got More" by Cole Deggs & the Lonesome mention in this of all threads, lol.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 1, 2016 23:17:33 GMT -5
YOu and I must live in the same area. Love COW and glad to see them get representation. Their station is a hidden gem playing all scopes of modern top 40 to yesteryears top 50 and so many "lost songs". Heard "What are you listening to" by Chris Stapleton last week during a morning show.Β Also heard "I got more" by Cole Deggs and the Lonesome last week. It's amazing the greatness of that station WYTE and WAXX are rough.Β Major props for working in a "I Got More" by Cole Deggs & the Lonesome mention in this of all threads, lol. The pigeon Forge station I'm listening to while on vacation plays classic country 80,s 90s and up but it plays artists we don't hear anymore. Like Andy Griggs, Chris Cagle, Julie Roberts. ETC. also played some classic country songs I haven't in a long time.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 1, 2016 23:43:07 GMT -5
For the people questioning Kacey's nomination, be aware that her achievements go way beyond her radio airplay performance (or lack of), she's actually WON a special CMA recognition just earlier this year highlighting that: the "International Artist Achievement Award", which recognizes outstanding achievement by a U.S.-based artist who contributes to the awareness and development of Country Music outside the United States. The award honored the conclusion of her second sold-out European tour (UK, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Germany...), as well as her appearance in several major international music festivals (like the BBC Radio Live in Hyde Park) and prestigious events in Europe such as βThe Royal Variety Performanceβ and "Jools Holland". She's had a pretty strong presence representing Country Music in the past year, even though Country radio would like us to believe otherwise.
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Post by myeverything on Sept 2, 2016 9:02:59 GMT -5
YOu and I must live in the same area. Love COW and glad to see them get representation. Their station is a hidden gem playing all scopes of modern top 40 to yesteryears top 50 and so many "lost songs". Heard "What are you listening to" by Chris Stapleton last week during a morning show. Also heard "I got more" by Cole Deggs and the Lonesome last week. It's amazing the greatness of that station WYTE and WAXX are rough. Major props for working in a "I Got More" by Cole Deggs & the Lonesome mention in this of all threads, lol. How about the one and only WYRK getting back in the race? I'm so happy for them.. they really deserve this. Such a great group of people. I told them all that I'll see them down here in Nash in November, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 9:43:45 GMT -5
She's had a pretty strong presence representing Country Music in the past year, even though Country radio would like us to believe otherwise. Great post! Kacey can't help it if radio ignores her. The way I see it, she kind of has the same view of the industry (specifically, the radio part of the industry) that Sturgill Simpson has, and I don't blame her. She's making critically-acclaimed music but radio won't touch it. I feel like that's backwards from how it was "back in the day" in the decades when people like Willie, Merle, Dolly, etc. got a lot of airplay. I've said this before, but take a look at the lyrics of her song "Good Ol' Boys Club". I think they summarize her views on the industry, and it also sort of explains why radio doesn't want to support her. I don't need a membership to validate The hard work I put in and the dues I paid Never been too good at just goin' along I guess I've always kind of been for the underdog
Favors for friends will get you in and get you far Shouldn't be about who it is you know But about how good you are
Kacey initially went on a radio tour prior to the release of "Merry Go 'Round" (which is probably why that's her only radio hit), and I think that radio tour is where she truly saw how silly it all was, what with everybody out there trying to "buddy up" to radio and whatnot. I don't know about you, but these sorts of "relationships" we always hear about from within the country music industry seem extremely contrived to me. As Kacey sings, it shouldn't be about "favors for friends" and it shouldn't be about who you know. It should be about the quality of the music. Unfortunately radio doesn't really care about quality all that much because they've become super corporate and they don't want to risk losing advertising revenue by playing music that's a little deeper and a little more edgy. They're all about that lightweight fluffy stuff so that they can appease the masses. Years from now, people will remember the music that actually meant something and the songs that told stories. They won't remember the hundreds upon hundreds of feel-good songs or "bro" songs because the vast majority of them are way too similar to one another.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 2, 2016 10:00:10 GMT -5
Some predications from popular websites: AXS (writer: Jason Scott): www.axs.com/cma-awards-2016-winner-predictions-carrie-underwood-maren-morris-and-m-105856Entertainer: Carrie Underwood Female: Carrie Underwood Male: Chris Stapleton Duo: FGL Group: ZBB Album: Carrie Underwood or Eric Church Song: "Humble & Kind" or "Record Year" Single: "Die a Happy Man" or "My Church" New Artist: Kelsea Ballerini or Maren Morris Music Video: Chris Stapleton or Cam Musical Event: "The Fighter" or "You Are My Sunshine" Saving Country Music (writer: Trigger Coroneos): www.savingcountrymusic.com/chris-stapleton-leads-nominees-for-the-2016-cma-awards-predictions/Entertainer: Luke Bryan, lists: Garth, Chris, and Carrie as all "potential winners" Single: "My Church" Album: Eric Church, lists: Carrie and Maren as "potential winners" Song: "Humble and Kind" Female: Carrie Underwood, calls Maren Morris "dark horse" Male: Chris Stapleton or Tim McGraw Group: Little Big Town or Old Dominion Duo: FGL New Artist: Maren Morris Musical Event: Doesn't Know... lol Music Video: Chris Stapleton or Cam Country Perspective (writer: Josh Schott): countryperspective.com/2016/09/01/the-hodgepodge-reactions-to-the-50th-cma-awards/Entertainer: Chris or Luke Album: Eric Church Single: "Die a Happy Man", "Record Year", "Humble and Kind", or "Fire Away" ... make up your damn mind, dude. Song: "Humble and Kind", "Record Year", or "My Church" Male: Chris Stapleton Female: Miranda Lambert (but says it should be Carrie or Maren, just not willing to bet against Miranda yet). New Artist: Maren Morris Duo: FGL Group: Didn't pick a winner Music Video: Dierks Bentley or Chris Stapleton Musical Event: Chris Stapleton Gone Country (writer: Jake Harris): music.blog.austin360.com/2016/09/01/gone-country-predicting-the-cma-winners/Entertainer: Luke Bryan (wants Garth Brooks, says Carrie and Chris have a shot). Single: "My Church" Album: Maren Morris (wants Eric Church). Song: "Die a Happy Man" (wants "Humble and Kind"). Female: Carrie Underwood Male: Chris Stapleton Group: Little Big Town (wants ZBB). Duo: FGL (wants Joey + Rory). Musical Event: "Think of You" (wants "You Are My Sunshine"). Music Video: Chris Stapleton New Artist: Maren Morris ... My main takeaway: no one has a fucking clue what's going to happen.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Sept 2, 2016 10:19:25 GMT -5
She's had a pretty strong presence representing Country Music in the past year, even though Country radio would like us to believe otherwise. Great post! Kacey can't help it if radio ignores her. The way I see it, she kind of has the same view of the industry (specifically, the radio part of the industry) that Sturgill Simpson has, and I don't blame her. She's making critically-acclaimed music but radio won't touch it. I feel like that's backwards from how it was "back in the day" in the decades when people like Willie, Merle, Dolly, etc. got a lot of airplay. I've said this before, but take a look at the lyrics of her song "Good Ol' Boys Club". I think they summarize her views on the industry, and it also sort of explains why radio doesn't want to support her. I don't need a membership to validate The hard work I put in and the dues I paid Never been too good at just goin' along I guess I've always kind of been for the underdog
Favors for friends will get you in and get you far Shouldn't be about who it is you know But about how good you are
Kacey initially went on a radio tour prior to the release of "Merry Go 'Round" (which is probably why that's her only radio hit), and I think that radio tour is where she truly saw how silly it all was, what with everybody out there trying to "buddy up" to radio and whatnot. I don't know about you, but these sorts of "relationships" we always hear about from within the country music industry seem extremely contrived to me. As Kacey sings, it shouldn't be about "favors for friends" and it shouldn't be about who you know. It should be about the quality of the music. Unfortunately radio doesn't really care about quality all that much because they've become super corporate and they don't want to risk losing advertising revenue by playing music that's a little deeper and a little more edgy. They're all about that lightweight fluffy stuff so that they can appease the masses. Years from now, people will remember the music that actually meant something and the songs that told stories. They won't remember the hundreds upon hundreds of feel-good songs or "bro" songs because the vast majority of them are way too similar to one another. I couldn't have written better myself. Agree 100% As a fan, I would love to see Kacey having hit records on radio, more than anything to help her spread her work. I really have absolutely nothing against artists playing the radio/industry game if that makes sense to them and their goals. Having said that, I'm glad Kacey is able to somewhat make everything work professionally without having to sacrifice essential parts of who she is (as a person and mostly as an artist) and I'm glad the CMAs were able to acknowledge her hard work this past year with a nomination.
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