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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:36:00 GMT -5
Because it's never too early to start complaining about who isn't gonna win
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 19, 2017 21:39:42 GMT -5
Oh right, I thought about this thread a few days ago and how I should make it so we could talk about how the eligibility period is almost half done!
Who are the frontrunners so far?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 22:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 23:49:22 GMT -5
^ Mimi ain't wrong
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Post by ry4n on Feb 19, 2017 23:58:47 GMT -5
Who are the frontrunners so far? Bruno and the Weeknd? And Ed once he releases.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 0:03:52 GMT -5
Maybe they can make up for snubbing Alessia Cara somehow someway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 1:47:46 GMT -5
I need that closed caption to get it right. She was FOILED, not SPOILED, lol! I need to take a look at the releases so far, I know I'm blanking on a lot. pop contenders: the competition is going to be much thicker/harder to predict than 2017 - Bruno - Ed Sheeran - Kelly, if the album campaign goes as well as I hope and expect - Katy - if Taylor sticks to her usual routine, her next single will fall in this year's submission period while the parent album will go to 2019 - Weeknd might be able to nab a pop solo nom for one of his singles - Chainsmokers for dance album (their EP is eligible but I assume they'll be submitting their debut...maybe they'll try to be slick and send one to dance album and the other to pop?) - Gaga might score a nom or two, but I think she has an uphill battle since the singles weren't successful - right now, the only thing Alessia can submit are Scars to Your Beautiful and How Far I'll Go (this one might actually have a good shot at song from a motion picture, or whatever the title of that award is). I don't know if there are any plans to have her release a new album this year. r&b: ugh, this scene is so bleak, dahhling - Weeknd for urban contemporary album and one of his urban singles - Childish Gambino - Bryson Tiller, if he finishes and releases his next album in time - Bell Biv Devoe, who are hopefully smart enough to submit to the traditional r&b categories - Mary J - again, chances are stronger for her in traditional r&b - Tremaine, maybe - Kehlani, maybe? - John Legend, maybe? - Alicia Keys...big maybe? - if RCA was worth a damn, they'd do Tinashe a solid and really push for something from Nightride to get a nomination. This is very unlikely though. She seems to be anathema at this point. rap: - is Black Beatles in this eligibility period? - A Tribe Called Quest - Drake's More Life project - J. Cole with the requisite noms that he has no chance of winning - Kid Cudi - Big Sean - Lil Wayne might get one last hurrah for Carter V - Migos lol
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Post by BDGeek on Feb 20, 2017 2:03:52 GMT -5
Miranda is a shoe-in nominee for country album. Probably Little Big Town too if their new release goes smoothly.
Really hope to see LeAnn Rimes get a nom for Remnants. Such a stellar album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 3:58:00 GMT -5
Ah, just realized Lana is possibly arriving this year! Add her to the pop potentials. Lorde as well, though I wonder if she will continue to shoot for pop noms or maybe try to push herself as alternative.
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Post by Troublemaker on Feb 20, 2017 8:17:26 GMT -5
Ah, just realized Lana is possibly arriving this year! Add her to the pop potentials. Lorde as well, though I wonder if she will continue to shoot for pop noms or maybe try to push herself as alternative. Lana should have learnt her lesson by now and submit to alternative after ultraviolence and honeymoon were snubbed in pop but then again you never know...
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Post by Choco on Feb 20, 2017 11:03:01 GMT -5
Starboy, 24K Magic, Ed Sheeran's album and Katy's are all likely getting nods.
Lady GaGa's best chance is Pop Solo Performance for Million Reasons; that said I could see it getting lost in the shuffle if she can't mantain buzz until later in the year.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 20, 2017 11:44:57 GMT -5
You want bleak, consider the Rock nominees. What does rock radio even play? Is there even any new rock music? lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 14:34:14 GMT -5
Ah, just realized Lana is possibly arriving this year! Add her to the pop potentials. Lorde as well, though I wonder if she will continue to shoot for pop noms or maybe try to push herself as alternative. Lana should have learnt her lesson by now and submit to alternative after ultraviolence and honeymoon were snubbed in pop but then again you never know... I wonder if Lana still faces a bit of a 'credibility' issue from the alternative crowd, considering her roots. I agree that musically, alternative is probably where she belongs, but she may not have any chances if alternative voters view her as inherently inauthentic. Paradise and Young and Beautiful got pop noms, so she at least has a fighting chance there. You want bleak, consider the Rock nominees. What does rock radio even play? Is there even any new rock music? lol See, I don't feel like it's my place to shade rock like that b/c that's how I've felt about it for I dunno, the past 15 years? lol. Clearly they're still finding something to play and nominate, there's just very little mainstream awareness.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2017 15:32:09 GMT -5
Lana should have learnt her lesson by now and submit to alternative after ultraviolence and honeymoon were snubbed in pop but then again you never know... I wonder if Lana still faces a bit of a 'credibility' issue from the alternative crowd, considering her roots. I agree that musically, alternative is probably where she belongs, but she may not have any chances if alternative voters view her as inherently inauthentic. Paradise and Young and Beautiful got pop noms, so she at least has a fighting chance there. You want bleak, consider the Rock nominees. What does rock radio even play? Is there even any new rock music? lol See, I don't feel like it's my place to shade rock like that b/c that's how I've felt about it for I dunno, the past 15 years? lol. Clearly they're still finding something to play and nominate, there's just very little mainstream awareness. Tbh some 'country' music should have been in rock the past few years and would have been fine nominees (looks at Eric Church). Hopefully the lack of mainstream awareness for rock leads to them looking for some quality unheralded acts, but I doubt it based on this year's nominees. So far, though, depending where they get placed, acts like Ryan Adams, The xx, Dirty Projectors, Little Fiction, and AFI. The Shins, Spoon, Cold War Kids, and The New Pornographers all have albums coming out in the next month or so. Linkin Park is releasing an album soon, I think. But, yes, can we talk about how ridiculous it is that when the official ceremony airs, the next eligibility year is already half over?!?! Streamline that timeline, NARAS!
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Post by BDGeek on Feb 22, 2017 22:35:12 GMT -5
Regarding the eligibility period, I think part of why they keep putting off resetting it is that there will inevitably be one awkward transition year where the timeline lasts 15 freaking months (say, October 2017 through December 2018). Which is gonna feel super ridiculous.
I fully support re-establishing the eligibility period as the calendar year though. Sure, it was great to see Adele's wins this year. But the "Hello"/25 campaign felt like ages ago by the time she was finally rewarded for it.
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Post by ry4n on Feb 22, 2017 22:38:49 GMT -5
They could just do 13-month years for 3-4 years until things even out. Don't they already shift the eligibility period during the winter Olympics years when the show has to be televised earlier than usual? Speaking of which, 2018 will be one of those years.
Edit: looks like they did that in 2010, but not 2014. Nevermind.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 23, 2017 0:43:16 GMT -5
Jesus, this might end up being a seriously boring year for the show. They'll need all of the "we're doing it in NYC this year for the 60th celebration!!!" hype they can get after being spoiled with Adele, Bey, Rihanna, Drake, Bieber, Chance, etc. all in this past year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:47:37 GMT -5
Jesus, this might end up being a seriously boring year for the show. They'll need all of the "we're doing it in NYC this year for the 60th celebration!!!" hype they can get after being spoiled with Adele, Bey, Rihanna, Drake, Bieber, Chance, etc. all in this past year. I know it's all about putting on a good show, but the producers did themselves no favors when they packed this year with no less than four of the big name contenders for next year's show. They snatch their own anticipatory hype when they do that. I presume you're talking about the show itself and not the noms though. Drake and Bieber weren't there so they can't really be counted as part of the spoiling lol. If we're talking about the nominations I think 2018 will actually be more interesting than 2017, which was an A-vs-B showdown from the start and just rubbed too many people the wrong way when the surprisingly unsurprising happened and A swept everything. 2018 is going to be more competitive, harder to call, and probably a 'spread the love' kind of year where no one can really get in their feelings about any particular snubs. Barring a Kendrick release (I have no idea how likely one is) I also don't see any potential critically acclaimed r&b or hip-hop snub to stoke controversy, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Regarding the eligibility period, I think part of why they keep putting off resetting it is that there will inevitably be one awkward transition year where the timeline lasts 15 freaking months (say, October 2017 through December 2018). Which is gonna feel super ridiculous. I fully support re-establishing the eligibility period as the calendar year though. Sure, it was great to see Adele's wins this year. But the "Hello"/25 campaign felt like ages ago by the time she was finally rewarded for it. I like ry4n's suggestion of doing 13 (or even 14) month years until they catch up with the calendar year. But I also think labels could resolve one 15-month transition year in one of the following ways: 1. Spacing out their releases to keep the number of eligible submissions close to the same, while avoiding a 'dead' period in music. For example, if the transition year had been October 2015 to December 2016, Sony could have said 'ok, we'll keep Adele's release in November but move One Direction to spring 2016...RCA can save Zane for the summer.' Their Q4 bottom line would have been more than fine, and they would have something to look forward to in Q1 and Q2 by saving an anticipated final release from 1D/1D's first solo breakout. Now, Adele was a very early frontrunner by default so this might have prompted a few people who were aiming for winter 2016 to push back into 2017 to avoid her (might Gaga have chosen to time her album release with her Super Bowl stint? would Bruno have decided a late winter lead single with a spring 2017 album was a better look?) and that would also help with the # of releases. 2. Less big name releases in the transition year and more new/less popular artist releases. Looking again at the above example - let's say Gaga, Bruno, and the Weeknd all decide to wait until 2017 because they don't want to be caught up in the transition year. Now you have a rather empty looking 4th quarter...but this gives an opportunity to spread your budget around to some of the up-and-comers. They can benefit from the exposure and with less (or no) A-list competition in sight, are more likely to actually get some of that exposure without requiring as much expenditure as it might typically cost to launch a newbie in a crowded market. I used big pop names as examples but I think this could work for any genre. I will say that for hip-hop I don't even think most of that crowd would worry about it, as they don't seem to put as much of a premium on noms or wins (the mostly oligopolistic approach to rap category winners might have something to do with this).
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 23, 2017 9:23:37 GMT -5
Regarding the eligibility period, I think part of why they keep putting off resetting it is that there will inevitably be one awkward transition year where the timeline lasts 15 freaking months (say, October 2017 through December 2018). Which is gonna feel super ridiculous. I fully support re-establishing the eligibility period as the calendar year though. Sure, it was great to see Adele's wins this year. But the "Hello"/25 campaign felt like ages ago by the time she was finally rewarded for it. At the end of the day it isn't about the eligibility year, though, it's about how long it takes them to do the nominations and wins. Even if the eligibility year switched to a calendar year, you'd still have songs that are well over a year old winning. You could have "Formation" drop in January 2016 and then nominations come out in March 2017 and the ceremony in May 2017, and one of the ROTY nominees would still be a year and a half old. They need to streamline the nomination and winner process more than they need to change the eligibility year.
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hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=305099Friday, February 24, 2017 I.B. BAD: GRAMMY REWIND, 2017 FAST-FORWARDMUSIC’S LONGEST NIGHT: The Grammy telecast was slow-paced, beset by nagging sound problems and failed to move the sales needle as in past years, but the 59th Grammys will be best remembered for the abundant charm and graciousness of Adele. She’s a stunningly relatable superstar, completely at ease with who she is, whose humanity transcends all the noise. It’s not just about her wins or her superlative body of work; it’s about her soul, which she shares generously with her audience. One of the show’s most strikingly original segments was Beyoncé’s elaborate, special-effects-laden set piece, which is said to have cost $1m+ to stage. That’s hardly surprising—this megastar goes big with everything she creates. The same goes for Bey’s colossal earning ability—her 2016 Formation Tour grossed $256m, making it a close second to Bruce Springsteen’s $268m take—another indication that she can do anything she damn well pleases. HEAVY HITTERS 1: UMG had a slow Grammys, but Lucian Grainge’s #1 music group is blistering-hot otherwise, grabbing 64% of the latest weekly revenue chart behind ZAYN & Taylor Swift, Big Sean, Sam Hunt, Lady Gaga, Drake, Machine Gun Kelly and The Weeknd. If anything, the heat will increase in the coming months; Universal expects new albums from the likes of Taylor, Katy Perry, Drake, Eminem, Sam Smith, U2, Maroon 5, Lana Del Rey, Lorde, Nicki Minaj, Sam Hunt, Chris Stapleton and Thomas Rhett.CMG ruler Steve Barnett and Motown prexy Ethiopia Habtemariam scored a major coup last week, making a deal with Atlanta indie Quality Control for scorching-hot, much-sought-after hip-hop trio Migos. It’s starting to look like 2017 could be John Janick’s year, three years after his succession to the IGA throne formerly occupied by the legendary Jimmy Iovine. While enjoying the fruits of several Iovine-spawned projects, including Gaga, Maroon 5, Kendrick Lamar, Imagine Dragons and The 1975, Janick has seen breakouts with the La La Land soundtrack, Rae Sremmurd (whose “Black Beatles” became a phenomenon late last year) and Machine Gun Kelly, along with his Selena Gomez and J. Cole deals and Gaga’s dramatic recent ascent on the heels of her Super Bowl halftime performance. With its robust urban roster, the company is positioned to reap continuing huge benefits from the rhythmic formats’ dominance of the streaming platform. Lorde performed two extremely well-received songs from her upcoming album during a Grammy week listening event. Some of those on hand wondered whether said album—scheduled to drop in mid-June, with the lead single in March—would once again be on Jason Flom’s Lava or Republic proper. Working with a single producer, Jeff Bhasker, in marked contrast to 1D’s production by committee, Styles has crafted a set that recalls the regal high-water mark of ’70s British rock, Bowie and Queen in particular. HEAVY HITTERS 2: Lots of Grammy week chatter about who will succeed Rob Stringer as Columbia chief. Many believe the seat is the best label-head job in the business, due in large part to what Stringer accomplished while occupying it. During the last six years of his 10-year tenure atop the label (post-BMG), he spearheaded an out-and-out metamorphosis; he’s been a capable custodian of the label’s highbrow tradition and mature roster while also enormously boosting its “cool factor” with signings like Daft Punk, Vampire Weekend, LCD Soundsystem and Hozier. Giant buzz surrounds the forthcoming album by another Columbia artist, the recently signed Harry Styles, managed by Jeffrey Azoff, now in partnership with Brandon Creed. Working with a single producer, the versatile Jeff Bhasker (Kanye West, Rolling Stones, “Uptown Funk!”), in marked contrast to One Direction’s production by committee, Styles has crafted a set that recalls the regal high-water mark of ’70s British rock, Bowie and Queen in particular. The lead single, which could come out as soon as late April or early May, sounds like it would be a smash in any decade. Styles’ album will hit during the first quarter of Sony Music’s fiscal year, which promises to be another big one for the company, on the heels of an impressive two-year run fueled by Adele and Beyoncé. That date can also be considered the beginning of the Rob Stringer era, as he takes the CEO throne. Although Sony has been colder than usual so far this calendar year, the big-name projects hitting in 2017—ranging from brand names like Justin Timberlake, P!nk, Tim McGraw-Faith Hill, Sia, Foo Fighters, Pentatonix, Pharrell and Miley Cyrus to cutting-edge acts like Vampire Weekend, Hozier, G-Eazy and LCD Soundsystem—virtually ensures that its momentum will continue unabated.
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Post by ampersand on Feb 24, 2017 17:15:39 GMT -5
Kelly will obliterate the competition with her R&B/soul album and claim the AOTY trophy. Plz.
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Post by willapted33 on Feb 27, 2017 7:01:40 GMT -5
Frontrunners for rock are probably - 21 Pilots (even if they're not releasing anything) Coldplay (said they're releasing an EP) Imagine Dragons (probably the main contender) Arcade Fire (big Grammy winners previously and have a new album coming) 30 Seconds to Mars (Jared Leto's acting has made this band more mainstream and they're releasing a new album) Linkin Park Paramore Ryan Adams The Killers (apparently are releasing an album this year?)
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 27, 2017 11:04:11 GMT -5
You want bleak, consider the Rock nominees. What does rock radio even play? Is there even any new rock music? lol Wishful thinking, hopefully MisterWives. Lorde is also releasing this year, so she can be a strong contender for 2018.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Feb 27, 2017 19:13:57 GMT -5
Can we all agree that whatever Beyoncé released will be unjustly snubbed in the general field as per usual?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 3:03:47 GMT -5
Can we all agree that whatever Beyoncé released will be unjustly snubbed in the general field as per usual? Unless she plans on releasing a live version of any of the songs from Lemonade, she's not going to have anything eligible this time around. I think it's safe to assume she's going to be taking off the rest of the year (and maybe most of 2018, aside from Coachella) to spend time with her new babies.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Mar 4, 2017 16:27:32 GMT -5
Can we all agree that whatever Beyoncé released will be unjustly snubbed in the general field as per usual? Unless she plans on releasing a live version of any of the songs from Lemonade, she's not going to have anything eligible this time around. I think it's safe to assume she's going to be taking off the rest of the year (and maybe most of 2018, aside from Coachella) to spend time with her new babies. I know... I was just being cheeky ;)
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 10, 2017 16:53:33 GMT -5
POP: Lorde, Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Lana Del Rey ROCK: Green Day, Leonard Cohen, Ryan Adams, Imagine Dragons ALTERNATIVE: The xx, Kate Bush, Father John Misty R&B: The Weeknd, Childish Gambino, Sampha RAP: Nicki Minaj, Big Sean, A Tribe Called Quest, Migos
More to come, as I understand, from Sam Smith? Haim?
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 10, 2017 16:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:29:40 GMT -5
And if Chris Stapleton releases something before the cutoff, he'll be there to play.
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Post by Kurt on Mar 13, 2017 20:34:19 GMT -5
And if Chris Stapleton releases something before the cutoff, he'll be there to play. Album is out May 5, so he'll definitely be in contention.
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