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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 30, 2017 16:18:12 GMT -5
BLABR is the first major country crossover in its original form (and bypassing We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together because that wasn't a Country Radio top 10) since Need You Now over 7 years ago right? I'd say it has a very high chance of getting in for Song and Record.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 30, 2017 19:33:49 GMT -5
idk, I feel like the buzz about Harry's album was/ is pretty strong. I'd be more surprised if he walks away without a nom than seeing him in one (or more) of the big four. There is no current buzz so I am striking the "is" from your post (the album is down to #27 after only 6 weeks). Look, I actually love "Sign of the Times," but it was only a modest hit in the U.S. If One Direction could never get any Grammy noms despite more and bigger hits, I don't see why Harry Styles would get a solo nom. Zayn's lead single was a much bigger hit, and his album was received the same as Styles' album at metacritic (Zayn is actually 1 point higher), but he didn't get a nom. Regardless of that, for anyone to say Styles is a "sure thing" for any nom is way off base. List him as a contender? I guess. But he's no Sheeran, Mars, Lamar, etc in terms of being a front runner/sure thing.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 30, 2017 19:37:18 GMT -5
BLABR is the first major country crossover in its original form (and bypassing We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together because that wasn't a Country Radio top 10) since Need You Now over 7 years ago right? I'd say it has a very high chance of getting in for Song and Record. Eh. Pretty much all of the country songs that have gotten in SOTY were inspirational (Live Like You're Dying, I Hope You Dance, Jesus Take the Wheel, etc) or at least serious in terms of a message about relationships (Breathe, You're Still the One, Need You Now, etc). "BLABR" is a borderline gimmick song and surely isn't taken seriously in terms of its writing. "Before He Cheats" did get in SOTY, but that track was taken seriously as a record/song. I don't see "BLABR" being seen as respectable by people in the industry. I guess we'll see, though. I'd say Record of the Year is more likely, but even that would be an embarrassment. Of course, the Grammys haven't always cared about being taken seriously.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 30, 2017 19:47:14 GMT -5
BLABR is the first major country crossover in its original form (and bypassing We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together because that wasn't a Country Radio top 10) since Need You Now over 7 years ago right? I'd say it has a very high chance of getting in for Song and Record. Eh. Pretty much all of the country songs that have gotten in SOTY were inspirational (Live Like You're Dying, I Hope You Dance, Jesus Take the Wheel, etc) or at least serious in terms of a message about relationships (Breathe, You're Still the One, Need You Now, etc). "BLABR" is a borderline gimmick song and surely isn't taken seriously in terms of its writing. "Before He Cheats" did get in SOTY, but that track was taken seriously as a record/song. I don't see "BLABR" being seen as respectable by people in the industry. I guess we'll see, though. I'd say Record of the Year is more likely, but even that would be an embarrassment. Of course, the Grammys haven't always cared about being taken seriously. I just took a quick scan of the ROTY and SOTY nominees for the past few years, and aside from Girl Crush being up for the latter, no other song that originated as a Country hit (again removing WANEGBT for aforementioned reasons) has been nominated for either since Lady Antebellum took home both. By the time the period ends, it will have been a present hit somewhere for the majority of the period. I'd say the combination of those factors is more than enough to overcome any "respectability" issues, especially with the format having been given virtually no representation for a half decade and them pushing to get something included now. I agree on Record being more likely, but I definitely wouldn't count it out for Song either. I mean, Call Me Maybe was nominated in that category (not Country, but still), and that literally began its life in public consciousness as a joke.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2017 7:07:53 GMT -5
Eh. Pretty much all of the country songs that have gotten in SOTY were inspirational (Live Like You're Dying, I Hope You Dance, Jesus Take the Wheel, etc) or at least serious in terms of a message about relationships (Breathe, You're Still the One, Need You Now, etc). "BLABR" is a borderline gimmick song and surely isn't taken seriously in terms of its writing. "Before He Cheats" did get in SOTY, but that track was taken seriously as a record/song. I don't see "BLABR" being seen as respectable by people in the industry. I guess we'll see, though. I'd say Record of the Year is more likely, but even that would be an embarrassment. Of course, the Grammys haven't always cared about being taken seriously. I just took a quick scan of the ROTY and SOTY nominees for the past few years, and aside from Girl Crush being up for the latter, no other song that originated as a Country hit (again removing WANEGBT for aforementioned reasons) has been nominated for either since Lady Antebellum took home both. By the time the period ends, it will have been a present hit somewhere for the majority of the period. I'd say the combination of those factors is more than enough to overcome any "respectability" issues, especially with the format having been given virtually no representation for a half decade and them pushing to get something included now. I agree on Record being more likely, but I definitely wouldn't count it out for Song either. I mean, Call Me Maybe was nominated in that category (not Country, but still), and that literally began its life in public consciousness as a joke. By the way, you are forgetting "Cruise" in talking about country crossover hits since "Need You Now." It made the top 10 at Top 40 and Adult Top 40 radio and peaked at #4 on the Hot 100. Thankfully the Grammys are yet to give FGL a nomination.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 1, 2017 15:10:25 GMT -5
I just took a quick scan of the ROTY and SOTY nominees for the past few years, and aside from Girl Crush being up for the latter, no other song that originated as a Country hit (again removing WANEGBT for aforementioned reasons) has been nominated for either since Lady Antebellum took home both. By the time the period ends, it will have been a present hit somewhere for the majority of the period. I'd say the combination of those factors is more than enough to overcome any "respectability" issues, especially with the format having been given virtually no representation for a half decade and them pushing to get something included now. I agree on Record being more likely, but I definitely wouldn't count it out for Song either. I mean, Call Me Maybe was nominated in that category (not Country, but still), and that literally began its life in public consciousness as a joke. By the way, you are forgetting "Cruise" in talking about country crossover hits since "Need You Now." It made the top 10 at Top 40 and Adult Top 40 radio and peaked at #4 on the Hot 100. Thankfully the Grammys are yet to give FGL a nomination. I was talking about songs that crossed over in the form in which they were sent to Country radio. Cruise's crossover was from the Nelly version which came later.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 2, 2017 7:59:05 GMT -5
By the way, you are forgetting "Cruise" in talking about country crossover hits since "Need You Now." It made the top 10 at Top 40 and Adult Top 40 radio and peaked at #4 on the Hot 100. Thankfully the Grammys are yet to give FGL a nomination. I was talking about songs that crossed over in the form in which they were sent to Country radio. Cruise's crossover was from the Nelly version which came later. Ok sure, but why does that matter? Many of the country crossovers that have had Grammy success crossed over from the benefit of a pop mix. I'm just trying to understand your point.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 2, 2017 10:03:15 GMT -5
My point was that it crossing over in its original form will work to its benefit in increasing is chances for nominations, combined with the relative lack of Country nominees in ROTY/SOTY over past several years.
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Post by Choco on Jul 2, 2017 18:45:27 GMT -5
Jay-Z latest album is getting very good reviews. Probably a contender if they can somehow save it from irrelevancy by not making it a TIDAL exclusive for a long time.
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Post by Your Faves Fave. on Jul 3, 2017 11:46:02 GMT -5
I'm sure he'll get an obligatory nom. I expect Kendrick to sweep the Rap categories.
I hope Redbone gets a ROTY nom!!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 3, 2017 12:15:56 GMT -5
Best New Artist: SZA Best R&B Song: SZA "Drew Barrymore" (Songwriters) Best R&B Performance: SZA "Drew Barrymore" or "Love Galore" Best Urban Contemporary Album SZA "CTRL" Jay-Z latest album is getting very good reviews. Probably a contender if they can somehow save it from irrelevancy by not making it a TIDAL exclusive for a long time. It's getting a physical release within the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Normi on Jul 3, 2017 14:07:45 GMT -5
I hope (but highly doubt) 'I Have Questions' gets a nom Maybe Pop Vocal Performance
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 14:32:14 GMT -5
I am interested in seeing how 4:44 plays out since Kendrick didn't seem to have any real competition from other rap albums until now. I see Jay not faring as well outside of the rap community as he does within it (in particular, among the older heads who want to give him his proper due). Accessibility makes a difference, so even with a confirmed physical release eventually coming, 4:44 is at a natural disadvantage for people not into Jay or hip-hop enough to hunt for it or wait on it. Kendrick conversely is much more visible and accessible to voters who aren't big hip-hop fans but are fans of Kendrick, or just feel obliged to recognize him, but might get shafted by rap voters who want to crown Jay while they still have a chance and figure Kendrick will have plenty other opportunities to win.
But there's also Jay's own history to take into account. He fares much better in the rap performance and rap song categories than he does in rap album (where he has only won one of nine nominations) and has never received an AOTY nom. He's really never been that highly favored for his full bodies of work, and I'm not sure that is going to change just because he put out a grown man album.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 12, 2017 11:27:43 GMT -5
Childish Gambino is gonna win a Grammy for "Redbone."
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jul 12, 2017 11:31:03 GMT -5
Give Kesha her makeup Grammy for snubbing her for Tik Tok.
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Post by Wave. on Jul 12, 2017 18:33:06 GMT -5
Give Kesha her makeup Grammy for snubbing her for Tik Tok. Shit, for just about her whole career. They just acted like she never existed. Animal alone should've birthed at least 3 nominations.
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Post by rosemulet on Jul 22, 2017 5:38:33 GMT -5
Not sure who's gonna win in 2018 but I'm ready to win some awards in 2022 Not sure why we're having this discussion yet when most of the nominations haven't even been released yet TBH Shape of You will most likely win Song of the Year No idea about Album of the Year though...
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Post by upsidedown on Jul 23, 2017 13:47:19 GMT -5
I'm hoping Praying will at least get a vocal nom for Kesha. It/she deserves it.
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Post by ethanhunt on Jul 23, 2017 15:02:33 GMT -5
With Sturgil Simpson and Chris Stapelton getting noms the past two years does anyone think Jason Isbell has a chance at an AotY nom?
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 31, 2017 8:16:34 GMT -5
I think that although the likes of Khalid and SZA will be nominated for Best New Artist, some random rapper will get it, idk, maybe Slymm Jxmmie or however the fuck he's called.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 31, 2017 10:13:08 GMT -5
I think that although the likes of Khalid and SZA will be nominated for Best New Artist, some random rapper will get it, idk, maybe Slymm Jxmmie or however the f**k he's called. Slim Jxmmi from Rae Sremmurd
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 31, 2017 11:45:51 GMT -5
I'm curious to see if this could be Lana's moment to finally get some Grammy love. This is her third critically acclaimed album in a row, eventually the Grammy's are gonna have to acknowledge her some how. All of that bad press that surrounded her during her first era has worn off and she's proven to be a formidable artist in her own right.
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 31, 2017 11:51:05 GMT -5
I'm curious to see if this could be Lana's moment to finally get some Grammy love. This is her third critically acclaimed album in a row, eventually the Grammy's are gonna have to acknowledge her some how. All of that bad press that surrounded her during her first era has worn off and she's proven to be a formidable artist in her own right. I'm hopeful. It's such a weak field for women (who would get Grammy buzz, anyway), and Lana's album was as well-received as Lorde's critically (and commercially, it seems), but is more recent and she's more "overdue." [whispers] It's also a better album. But both are great.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 31, 2017 13:15:33 GMT -5
Watch both being snubbed and Ed Sheeran having three songs in all pop song categories...
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 31, 2017 13:19:37 GMT -5
Watch both being snubbed and Ed Sheeran having three songs in all pop song categories... Don't even say it.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 31, 2017 13:21:32 GMT -5
For real though, Lorde has been a Grammy fave from day 1 so I highly doubt she'd be snubbed.
But Sheeran will probably have a monologue, present an award or two and collect six and perform Castle on the Hill featuring U2, Paul McCartney and Dave Grohl and be a part of Chester Bennington tribute.
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Post by Normi on Jul 31, 2017 13:25:46 GMT -5
I hope Castle On The Hill gets nominated in the Pop categories and Shape Of You doesn't
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Post by Your Faves Fave. on Aug 8, 2017 19:08:42 GMT -5
I hope "Bodak Yellow" can sneak into Best Rap Performance ala "Trap Queen" and "Panda".
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 11, 2017 10:41:52 GMT -5
Well dammit, is Kesha now a dark horse contender for some noms for "Praying" and her album? She was never really part of the equation (because it's Kesha) but her story and critical acclaim, not to mention if "Praying" goes on to become a big hit... who knows?
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 11, 2017 12:53:00 GMT -5
I hope Love On The Brain can grab a SOTY nom, and a few for Million Reasons.
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