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Post by GPMB on Jun 15, 2017 16:50:58 GMT -5
What's the best song of the year, in your opinion? HUMBLE. I guess Redbone and Slide don't exist then |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 15, 2017 16:52:14 GMT -5
More Rihanna? Kendrick Lamar's new singe with her goes for adds on Tuesday.
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Post by fhas on Jun 15, 2017 17:28:44 GMT -5
I guess Redbone and Slide don't exist then That's MY opinion. I really like Slide but I prefer Calvin's EDM classics, especially Blame. I listened Redbone 2-3 times, but it's not the kind of song that I'd listen every single day for months (HUMBLE., Starboy, Closer, One Dance). I'm happy that Calvin's new songs are critically acclaimed in the USA, tho. I thought he'd flop since it's so different from his past albums. |
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Post by flextamcsignals on Jun 16, 2017 6:05:22 GMT -5
Will Redbone make the top 10? Predictions early in the week had it at 12 or 13, but now people are saying 16 or 17. Are we overestimating it?
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jun 16, 2017 7:08:44 GMT -5
That's an interesting article from Billboard. I never look at the streaming charts, so that gender skew makes me really curious. I wanna see stats on streaming and demographics, that's something you don't see a lot of.
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Post by jebsib on Jun 16, 2017 7:53:53 GMT -5
Look at the recent Hot R&B / Hip-Hop Songs chart and try to find a female voice.
I believe there are 4, and they are all in featured roles.
(This is the definitive National R&B chart.)
Just crazy.
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Post by rimetm on Jun 16, 2017 8:19:51 GMT -5
Not that crazy because if you notice, there are 3 album sweeps going on: Khalid's American Teen, Drake's More Life, and Bryson Tiller's True to Self. Naturally on a twenty five position chart (as the main Hot R&B is), that's gonna knock a bunch of the usual variety away temporarily.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 16, 2017 8:23:25 GMT -5
Thanks to J-Boy at ATRL: atrl.net/forums/topic/125-us-airplay-discussion/?page=113TOP 10 1 BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 205,446 (- 2.458) 2 ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 174.040 (- 1.283) 3 THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 158.543 (- 1.462) 4 ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay: 153.631 (+ 1.257) 5 JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Will not Let Go: 147.064 (- 1.119) 6 KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Is not Me: 135.712 (- 0.764) 7 DJ KHALED - I'm The One f / Bieber / Quavo ...: 135.242 (+ 1.117) 8 LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f / Justin Bieber: 128.647 (+ 2.086) 9 JULIA MICHAELS - Issues: 96.925 (+ 0.169) 10 KENDRICK LAMAR - HUMBLE .: 94.202 (+ 0.199) 11 ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 91.499 (+ 1.435) 12 SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road: 88.969 (+ 0.981) 13 IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 84.903 (+ 1.958) 14 CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone: 76.630 (+ 1.141) 15 HALSEY - Now Or Never: 71.134 (+ 1.499) ▲ 16 SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin 'Me ...: 71.108 (+ 0.924) 17 FUTURE - Mask Off: 70.396 (- 0.436) ▼ 18 ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 69.165 (- 0.221) 19 DAN + SHAY - How Not To: 60.675 (+ 0.569) 20 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE - God, Your Mama, And Me: 59.241 (+ 0.768) ▲ OTHERS BLAKE SHELTON - Every Time I Hear That Song: 56.664 (+ 0.294) THOMAS RHETT - Craving You f / Maren Morris: 51.268 (+ 0.677) DAVID GUETTA - 2U f / Justin Bieber: 44.577 (+ 5.032) MILEY CYRUS - Malibu: 38.978 (+ 0.483) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 38.865 (+ 0.739) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 38.671 (+ 0.826) SELENA GOMEZ - Bad Liar: 37.378 (+ 0.035) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.220 (+ 0.627) CAMILA CABELLO - Crying In The Club: 22.786 (- 0.305) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f / Quavo: 21.253 (+ 0.565) BRUNO MARS - Versace On The Floor: 14.774 (+ 1.043) FIFTH HARMONY - Down f / Gucci Mane: 10.922 (+ 0.410) KATY PERRY - Swish Swish f / Nicki Minaj: 8.008 (- 0.028) SHANIA TWAIN - Life's About To Get Good: 5.242 ARCADE FIRE - Everything Now: 4.173 (+ 0.041) KYGO - First Time f / Ellie Goulding: 2.495 (+ 0.032) KILLERS - The Man: 1.756 (+ 0.636) CALVIN HARRIS - Feels f / Pharrell / Katy / Big Sean: 0.265 |
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Post by jebsib on Jun 16, 2017 8:47:46 GMT -5
The R&B / Hip-Hop chart is 50 positions and the trend regarding lack of female artists has been building for years, particularly with steaming's ascendancy.
Gone are the days of Aretha, Anita Baker or even Ashanti representing. Crazy.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 16, 2017 10:30:33 GMT -5
Not much help for women in radio, either. Although, at least Halsey managed to hit the Top 15 there. Alessia Cara and Issues at least have made a decent show for them. It seems Rihanna or Taylor Swift would need a hit to fill the void.
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Post by Normi on Jun 16, 2017 10:32:44 GMT -5
^LOYALTY. might come but Wild Thoughts definitely will!
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 16, 2017 11:01:41 GMT -5
^LOYALTY. might come but Wild Thoughts definitely will! Those are still a female on male songs, though. |
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Post by jebsib on Jun 16, 2017 12:13:09 GMT -5
The other thing that is fascinating about the R&B / Hip-Hop chart is that it is primarily a Rap / Hip-Hop chart now.
There really are no ballads or mid tempos to speak of.
The groups, divas and veteran acts have very much been shunted off to the Adult R&B format, or no longer exist.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 19:24:46 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 16, 2017 20:28:45 GMT -5
^Before 2012, streaming was relatively small. On-Demand Songs' first chart was dated March 24, 2012. I'm sorry I can't help you with any charts, but they would have to be mostly from AOL and Yahoo! Music, if that helps.
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Post by YotamTS on Jun 17, 2017 3:33:04 GMT -5
Full predictions by simmnfierzig on ATRL:1 Despacito 765 (=) 2 I'm The One 461 (+1) 3 That's What I Like 431 (-1) 4 Shape Of You 349 (=) 5 Humble 349 (=) 6 Mask Off 282 (=) 7 XO Tour Lif3 280 (=) 8 Something Just Like This 271 (=) 9 Congratulations 264 (+1) 10 Stay 256 (-1) 11 Body Like A Back Road 231 (+3) 12 Say You Won't Let Go 222 (-1) 13 Issues 220 (-1) 14 Redbone 213 (+2) 15 2U 211 (debut)
16 Believer 211 (-3) 17 It Ain't Me 204 (-2) 18 Unforgettable 200 (-1) 19 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 167 (-1) 20 Now Or Never 160 (+1) {#21-#100}
21 Castle On The Hill 154 (+2)
22 iSpy 147 (-3)
23 Bad Liar 140 (+22)
24 Attention 138 (+7)
25 Slow Hands 138 (+3)
26 Location 135 (-4)
27 Malibu 134 (-1)
28 Sign Of The Times 133 (-3)
29 Swalla 130 (=)
30 DNA 129 (-3)
31 In Case You Didn't Know 123 (-11)
32 Rolex 122 (-8)
33 Closer 121 (-1)
34 Bad And Boujee 114 (-4)
35 Magnolia 111 (+5)
36 Goosebumps 110 (=)
37 Drowning 110 (+7)
38 Slippery 109 (+5)
39 Tunnel Vision 109 (-1)
40 Hurricane 108 (-3)
41 24k Magic 107 (=)
42 T-Shirt 105 (-3)
43 Passionfruit 102 (-9)
44 Slide 98 (-9)
45 Strip That Down 97 (+6)
46 Swang 94 (-13)
47 The Cure 94 (-1)
48 The Fighter 92 (=)
49 Scars To Your Beautiful 92 (-2)
50 God, Your Mama And Me 87 (=)
51 Craving You 86 (+1)
52 To The Max 85 (+1)
53 Look At Me! 78 (+2)
54 How Not To 77 (+6)
55 Everyday We Lit 76 (+7)
56 Crying In The Club 74 (=)
57 You Look Good 74 (+9)
58 Love 71 (-1)
59 First Day Out 70 (=)
60 My Girl 69 (+1)
61 Every Time I Hear That Song 68 (+2)
62 Cold 67 (-4)
63 If I Told You 66 (-9)
64 1-800-273-8255 65 (+1)
65 Swish Swish 63 (+18)
66 Down 61 (-24)
67 Portland 61 (-3)
68 Felices Los 4 59 (+2)
69 Drinkin Problem 57 (=)
70 Flatliner 56 (+2)
71 Love Galore 55 (debut)
72 Privacy 54 (-4)
73 Do I Make You Wanna 52 (debut)
74 Yours If You Want It 52 (+2)
75 Heavy 50 (-8)
76 Butterfly Effect 50 (+17)
77 Loyalty 50 (-3)
78 Losin Control 49 (-3)
79 Weak 48 (=)
80 Small Town Boy 48 (+5)
81 No Promises 48 (-4)
82 No Such Thing As A Broken Heart 44 (-4)
83 Woke Up Like This 44 (-3)
84 Black 44 (-13)
85 4 AM 43 (-12)
86 Thunder 43 (-5)
87 Subeme La Radio 41 (+9)
88 Nobody Else But You 41 (+11)
89 Bon Appetit 41 (+9)
90 Somebody Else Will 41 (+7)
91 It Ain't My Fault 40 (debut)
92 Most Girls 40 (-6)
93 Met Gala 40 (-1)
94 Gyalchester 39 (-3)
95 My Old Man 38 (re-entry)
96 Chained To The Rhythm 38 (re-entry)
97 Symphony 38 (debut)
98 Doves In The Wind 37 (debut)
99 Know No Better 37 (-12)
100 Hometown Girl 36 (-10)
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Post by kacpe3 on Jun 17, 2017 5:33:43 GMT -5
Symphony debut? Yeeeees!!!!
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jun 17, 2017 6:27:43 GMT -5
Now I think that Magnolia may hit the top 10...
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Post by scrohr424 on Jun 17, 2017 6:54:10 GMT -5
Look at Me and Drowning gaining? Please no :'(
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 17, 2017 8:12:03 GMT -5
Thanks to StarkBoy at ATRL: atrl.net/forums/topic/125-us-airplay-discussion/?page=1141 BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 202.246 (- 3.200) 2 ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 172.834 (- 1.206) 3 THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 157.084 (- 1.459) 4 ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay: 154.673 (+ 1.042) 5 JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go: 144.711 (- 2.353) 6 DJ KHALED - I'm The One f/Bieber/Quavo…: 136.271 (+ 1.029) ▲ 7 KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 134.416 (- 1.296) ▼ 8 LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f/Justin Bieber: 131.311 (+ 2.664) 9 JULIA MICHAELS - Issues: 97.371 (+ 0.446) 10 KENDRICK LAMAR - HUMBLE.: 93.897 (- 0.305) 11 ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 92.966 (+ 1.467) 12 SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road: 89.336 (+ 0.367) 13 IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 86.716 (+ 1.813) 14 CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone: 77.338 (+ 0.708) 15 HALSEY - Now Or Never: 72.615 (+ 1.481) 16 SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 72.370 (+ 1.262) 17 ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 69.131 (- 0.034) ▲ 18 FUTURE - Mask Off: 69.045 (- 1.351) ▼ 19 DAN + SHAY - How Not To: 61.171 (+ 0.496) 20 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE - God, Your Mama, And Me: 59.987 (+ 0.746) BLAKE SHELTON - Every Time I Hear That Song: 57.173 (+ 0.509) THOMAS RHETT - Craving You f/Maren Morris: 51.841 (+ 0.573) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 39.613 (+ 0.942) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 39.442 (+ 0.577) MILEY CYRUS - Malibu: 39.428 (+ 0.450) SELENA GOMEZ - Bad Liar: 37.418 (+ 0.040) DAVID GUETTA - 2U f/Justin Bieber: 30.882 (- 13.695) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.764 (+ 0.544) DJ KHALED F/RIHANNA/B. TILLER - Wild Thoughts: 23.058CAMILA CABELLO - Crying In The Club: 22.898 (+ 0.112) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo: 21.562 (+ 0.309) BRUNO MARS - Versace On The Floor: 15.901 (+ 1.127) FIFTH HARMONY - Down f/Gucci Mane: 11.310 (+ 0.388) SHANIA TWAIN - Life's About To Get Good: 5.401 (+ 0.159) ARCADE FIRE - Everything Now: 4.122 (- 0.051) CALVIN HARRIS - Feels f/Pharrell/Katy/Big Sean: 2.628 (+ 2.363) KILLERS - The Man: 2.338 (+ 0.582) |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 17, 2017 8:27:34 GMT -5
I'm personally not thrilled that Slippery re-entered and is climbing since the video came out.
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Post by Harx on Jun 17, 2017 9:40:26 GMT -5
So looking forward to see "Symphony" debut!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 9:43:35 GMT -5
Look at Me and Drowning gaining? Please no :'( Please yes! More smashes on the way!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 9:51:14 GMT -5
2017 is going to have a lot of Rap/Hiphop songs that make year end. And most of them this time suck. Probably the worst year for Urban IMO.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jun 17, 2017 10:08:22 GMT -5
I guess that I'll have to be gay in Iran, because it looks like Magnolia and Look At Me will make it. Though XXX is utter s****, Playboi Carti has some good music. And his worst song will be (I guess) his only mainstream hit. That's just sad. Though I, unlike Scrohr, actually like Drowning and A Boogie.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jun 17, 2017 11:23:42 GMT -5
"Magnolia" is pretty decent (mostly thanks to the beat because Playboi Carti's rapping here is kinda mediocre). And while I wouldn't say I necessarily like "Look at Me!", I do appreciate it for being somewhat experimental, at least and especially in comparison to most other songs on the charts.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 17, 2017 12:01:06 GMT -5
Any early predictions on Wild Thoughts?
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Post by fhas on Jun 17, 2017 12:50:17 GMT -5
Any early predictions on Wild Thoughts? I'm no simm but #4 is probably the safest prediction for WT. If its YouTube views are huge (10m views right now but we don't know what percentage of that is from the USA) #2 is possible. |
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Post by 85la on Jun 17, 2017 14:26:54 GMT -5
Yeah, Billboard didn't have streaming charts then, but sometimes they would provide Yahoo and AOL charts at least in the print issues. I also remember it being the case that most #1-streamed songs would have a total of around 1 million streams combined from Yahoo and AOL, and as it mentions in the article, streaming would make up about 5% of a typical song's chart points. |
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jun 17, 2017 16:00:47 GMT -5
Any early predictions on Wild Thoughts? It'll debut in the top 100, possibly. |
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