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Post by NeRD on Mar 6, 2018 10:24:57 GMT -5
LOL what were the actual callouts? I know y'all said they were meh but were the negatives really high? Fifth highest negative.
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Post by tinawina on Mar 6, 2018 10:28:50 GMT -5
LOL what were the actual callouts? I know y'all said they were meh but were the negatives really high? Fifth highest negative. Thanks! I agree that's meh, but it doesn't seem high enough to cause all this, unless the other 4 were insanely high so her negative is higher than the ranking implies.
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Post by Choco on Mar 6, 2018 11:06:31 GMT -5
If they don't release the video this week they're pretty dumb. If that fails to lift the song again, get that top 20 peak and then move on to She Loves Control.
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Post by AP on Mar 6, 2018 11:10:25 GMT -5
If they don't release the video this week they're pretty dumb. If that fails to lift the song again, get that top 20 peak and then move on to She Loves Control. It’s coming out Thursday.
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Post by Choco on Mar 6, 2018 11:23:33 GMT -5
If they don't release the video this week they're pretty dumb. If that fails to lift the song again, get that top 20 peak and then move on to She Loves Control. It’s coming out Thursday. You're right. I didn't finish the last page. Perfect timing indeed.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 6, 2018 11:27:47 GMT -5
Havana is too huge right now. Huh? It's #11 at Top 40 radio if you include recurrents. It has also lost over 1100 spins in the past week. "NBTS" not doing better isn't about "Havana" at this point.
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2018 11:34:07 GMT -5
Havana is too huge right now. Huh? It's #11 at Top 40 radio if you include recurrents. It has also lost over 1100 spins in the past week. "NBTS" not doing better isn't about "Havana" at this point. Havana is #3 in Audience Impressions which is more indicative of what's really going on in airplay.
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Post by Choco on Mar 6, 2018 11:36:15 GMT -5
Both songs are hardly similar and countless acts have managed to have two hits at the same time... I think audience reception might have been worse than expected, which I can actually understand; those vocals take a while to get used to, and that's just not how radio works.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 6, 2018 11:36:21 GMT -5
Huh? It's #11 at Top 40 radio if you include recurrents. It has also lost over 1100 spins in the past week. "NBTS" not doing better isn't about "Havana" at this point. Havana is #3 in Audience Impressions which is more indicative of what's really going on in airplay. If "NBTS" was gaining spins but had low impressions, sure, but "NBTS" is stalling in spins so I don't get the relevance. And I think you are talking overall impressions? "Havana" is not #3 in impressions at Top 40. And this thread is in a forum about CHR/Pop radio. "NBTS" seems to be stalling at CHR/Pop, and my point is "Havana" is not high enough at Top 40 for that song to be the reason.
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2018 11:42:21 GMT -5
Never be the same is currently #11 on Itunes and #24 on Spotify.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 6, 2018 12:02:27 GMT -5
Also even in recurrency 'Havana' is still currently getting more spins than this. We can maybe excuse Hot AC, where 'Havana' literally just went #1 last week, but on Pop (and especially on Rhythmic) 'Havana' is out the door already and there shouldn't be any reason why this isn't picking up better especially if Camila is supposed to be the current 'it' pop girl given the success of her last single.
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2018 12:43:38 GMT -5
I still stick by my prediction that this will peak close to #5 on CHR.A bump in the road now but it will turn around.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 6, 2018 13:23:43 GMT -5
Am I the only one who loves this album and thinks this is literally the worst song on it?
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Post by deepston on Mar 6, 2018 13:59:22 GMT -5
I love this song and I don't get the hate by the GP... They seem to hate anything even remotely different to the pop bubblegum that has been heavily pushed lately on Pop.
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Post by tinawina on Mar 6, 2018 14:09:32 GMT -5
The part where her voice goes up is screechy and annoying IMO.
That said I still think it might turn around with the video release.
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2018 14:40:08 GMT -5
The part where her voice goes up is screechy and annoying IMO. That said I still think it might turn around with the video release. Do you only post on here when Camila gets bad updates? Just kind of weird how when she's getting good updates hardly anyone posts on here.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 6, 2018 14:48:55 GMT -5
Also even in recurrency 'Havana' is still currently getting more spins than this. We can maybe excuse Hot AC, where 'Havana' literally just went #1 last week, but on Pop (and especially on Rhythmic) 'Havana' is out the door already and there shouldn't be any reason why this isn't picking up better especially if Camila is supposed to be the current 'it' pop girl given the success of her last single. I don't know why 1 single would make anyone an 'it' girl. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just saying thinking 1 hit means anyone will necessarily have more is silly considering the amount of 1-hit wonders that exist (though you can say Cabello has had previous hits because of Fifth Harmony).
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 6, 2018 14:49:39 GMT -5
The lyric changes in the pre-chorus is absolutely horrid on the radio mix. For the first time in forever I turned on my radio in my car and this came on and it threw me all the way off. By the second time the chorus came on I got so annoyed and just listened to the version on Spotify.
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Post by tinawina on Mar 6, 2018 15:09:23 GMT -5
The part where her voice goes up is screechy and annoying IMO. That said I still think it might turn around with the video release. Do you only post on here when Camila gets bad updates? Just kind of weird how when she's getting good updates hardly anyone posts on here. Actualy, a while back I posted she had just had a big hit and radio was firmly behind her, so she should get a good shot at a follow up hit. I also said she had good buzz as the next It Girl. I said she'd be fine and so would this song. A couple of pages ago I also chuckled at the poster who was freaking out about the song, saying those posts were a mess but entertaining. Just letting you know, since we have positivity quotas in this thread and all. Far be it from me to actually fairly access a song I don't particualrly like. Fan litmus tests are always a joy. :kii:
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2018 15:22:50 GMT -5
Do you only post on here when Camila gets bad updates? Just kind of weird how when she's getting good updates hardly anyone posts on here. Actualy, a while back I posted she had just had a big hit and radio was firmly behind her, so she should get a good shot at a follow up hit. I also said she had good buzz as the next It Girl. I said she'd be fine and so would this song. A couple of pages ago I also chuckled at the poster who was freaking out about the song, saying those posts were a mess but entertaining. Just letting you know, since we have positivity quotas in this thread and all. Far be it from me to actually fairly access a song I don't particualrly like. Fan litmus tests are always a joy. :kii: It's #11 on itunes,#24 on Spotify and #12 on Pop.Its doing fine.Not every song of hers will be as big as Havana.Havana will probably never happen for her again.
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Post by tinawina on Mar 6, 2018 15:37:14 GMT -5
It's #11 on itunes,#24 on Spotify and #12 on Pop.Its doing fine.Not every song of hers will be as big as Havana.Havana will probably never happen for her again. Okay, let me stop teasing you and get serious. I never said the song was tanking. I'm not sure why you are telling me this? I asked about callouts to see if that was behind the slowdown in spins and in the end said that I think the video could give it a boost back in the right direction, even though I don't particualrly like the song. You are focusing on the wrong person/people. And for the record, I think she's had multiple big hits already with and without 5th Harmony, I don't think Havana is her pinnacle. She is perfectly capable of getting another smash hit. I wouldn't set my sights so low.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Mar 6, 2018 15:45:16 GMT -5
The lyric changes in the pre-chorus is absolutely horrid on the radio mix. For the first time in forever I turned on my radio in my car and this came on and it threw me all the way off. By the second time the chorus came on I got so annoyed and just listened to the version on Spotify. The lyric changes were totally unnecessary and the substitutions don't sound natural. I can understand why they did it, but it just doesn't work.
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Post by deepston on Mar 6, 2018 15:50:08 GMT -5
People clearly like this otherwise it wouldn't be so high on streaming and sales. If radio stops playing this right now it will be a huge mistake. I'm even questioning if callouts are good ways to measure the GP's preferences. It seems like lately, everything that is slightly polarizing gets terrible callouts, even if those songs are doing great in other metrics. LWYMMD comes to mind (I hope I'm not sounding like a stan, not my point). This was very polarizing but even after radio tanked the song it was still selling rather well. On the flip side, songs that are not doing well anywhere like How Long get heavily pushed.
I can see this song is slightly polarizing hence why the callouts are not so great. I just hope they don't drop it because it is different from everything else on radio right now.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 6, 2018 16:44:58 GMT -5
leonagwen, can you chill? Stop policing tinawina’s thread activities. They’re not trolling or breaking any rules. Do you only post JB this thread when it gets positive updates? Damn. Chill. It’s extremely offputting. And before you come for me for my Camila dislike, I actually like this song and am surprised it’s looking like it’s stalling.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 6, 2018 16:56:32 GMT -5
The lyric changes in the pre-chorus is absolutely horrid on the radio mix. For the first time in forever I turned on my radio in my car and this came on and it threw me all the way off. By the second time the chorus came on I got so annoyed and just listened to the version on Spotify. The lyric changes were totally unnecessary and the substitutions don't sound natural. I can understand why they did it, but it just doesn't work. It's on the border of Kidz Bop cringe. It really throws off the melody that they were going for by adding extra words.
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Post by NeRD on Mar 6, 2018 17:04:54 GMT -5
leonagwen, can you chill? Stop policing tinawina’s thread activities. They’re not trolling or breaking any rules. Do you only post JB this thread when it gets positive updates? Damn. Chill. It’s extremely offputting. And before you come for me for my Camila dislike, I actually like this song and am surprised it’s looking like it’s stalling. I'mma really hate her if she releases a bop. I really just want her to flop and fade away. I don't even want a Bebe Rexha career for her. An attention seeking, mediocre talent, racist is still an attention seeking, mediocre talent, racist. Why should the backlash end? Yeah, your opinion about this girl doesn't mean shit.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 6, 2018 17:10:52 GMT -5
leonagwen, can you chill? Stop policing tinawina’s thread activities. They’re not trolling or breaking any rules. Do you only post JB this thread when it gets positive updates? Damn. Chill. It’s extremely offputting. And before you come for me for my Camila dislike, I actually like this song and am surprised it’s looking like it’s stalling. I'mma really hate her if she releases a bop. I really just want her to flop and fade away. I don't even want a Bebe Rexha career for her. An attention seeking, mediocre talent, racist is still an attention seeking, mediocre talent, racist. Why should the backlash end? Yeah, your opinion about this girl doesn't mean s**t. Opinions change. If you want to do some deep dive digging you will see that mine has morphed over the years on artists like Rihanna and Beyoncé among other people.
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Post by NeRD on Mar 6, 2018 17:18:35 GMT -5
Yeah, your opinion about this girl doesn't mean s**t. Opinions change. If you want to do some deep dive digging you will see that mine has morphed over the years on artists like Rihanna and Beyoncé among other people. The girl has been making these same kinds of statements since the album release. Ain't s**t changed but ha scalp becoming more raw due to Camila pouncing all over it.
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Post by tinawina on Mar 6, 2018 18:03:01 GMT -5
What in the world? So this is a Stan board now? lmao What freaking difference does it make who does and does not like Camilla. We can all post what we want. Y’all get this extra when the song stalls, wtf are you gonna do’s whenever/if it actually falls. It’s not even all that serious yet. Once again, mess. But entertaining!
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Post by survivorqt on Mar 6, 2018 18:08:46 GMT -5
Camila is like the Kevin Durant of the pop world, I can see why she gets hate 😂
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