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Post by mcsteamy on Aug 20, 2017 20:29:29 GMT -5
Literally nothing he says can erase the fact Ryan went on a f**king immunity streak. Like I can totally see this go down like your win last season, an undeserving winner beacuse of petty and salt. Hey R00d, thought you were rooting for me last season  You were my second choice. And you were a great winner just Max played a better game and lost because bigfan is a stupid fucking salty bitch. |
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 20:31:00 GMT -5
Spidey Probst: Not sure where Nick (nick64) is, but we need to move on. Jane (Kanenrá:ke), it is your turn. Please tag both of the finalists in your post. Nick ( nick64) and Todd ( ry4n), please answer in a prompt manner.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 20, 2017 20:32:08 GMT -5
Hello to both of you! I want to say yet again congrats! I know how it feels to make it there so no matter the outcome I hope you're both proud of your games!  Now onto the reason I'm here. I'd like to know from ry4n, was there ever a chance for you and I to make it to the end? You were my #1 and I would like to know if that was ever a possibility in your mind to be sitting there with me? Also something that's come up with the answers to some of the other questions asked tonight that I'd like to discuss. You keep saying the challenges were what got you here, does this mean your social game was not strong enough? nick64, I said when I went out that it'd be hard to win for you. I'm personally convinced that's why you're here. I wouldn't call you a floater but you were definitely the safest choice to take post merge. Now having heard your responses to some of the other questions and having had time for reflection, I do think you played a better game than I initially thought. My question to you is this, do you think your seemingly easy path to the end was the only way for you to make it? You say your social game was strong and that's why you were able to stay under the radar. Do you believe those social ties would've been strong enough for you to play a more "flashy" game? And for both of you, you both have laid claim to pushing for my blindside, who really deserves the credit? |
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Post by rainie on Aug 20, 2017 20:32:22 GMT -5
God I would really feel bad for Nick of his internet went out or something :/
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 20, 2017 20:32:59 GMT -5
God I would really feel bad for Nick of his internet went out or something :/ Only reason I'm not mad. Sometimes life gets in the way. |
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 20, 2017 20:34:44 GMT -5
Yeah! He maybe has internet issues.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 20, 2017 20:35:00 GMT -5
God I would really feel bad for Nick of his internet went out or something :/ Only reason I'm not mad. Sometimes life gets in the way. I agree. There is no way to tell what is going on with his life right now that is causing him to miss the game, I am waiting patiently for him |
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 20, 2017 20:35:59 GMT -5
God I would really feel bad for Nick of his internet went out or something :/ Is that what happened the other two times he earned himself a penalty vote?  |
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Post by nick64 on Aug 20, 2017 20:37:03 GMT -5
First off, congratulations to both of you on making the finals and I wish both of you the best of luck. Nick, I think you played a safe game, and there is nothing wrong with that but I believe that you played things too safely. I think that you just went with the flow and didn't really have a say in what happened. My question for you is what was the biggest move that you made in the game (other than evicting Stacey/Shooter), and what's your argument for me (or the jury) on why you weren't a floater. Ryan, you played a good game. You were great at competitions and you always seemed to be flying under the radar even when you scored well. My question for you is simply how/why did you play a better game then Nick on both a competitive level and a social level? ry4n nick64Well other than those two evictions, I'd have to say it was...not making a big move. Like I said before, making big moves too early just makes you a threat, and you almost never make it to the end. Everything from that group alliance was a team effort and I was involved in all of those decisions. And then I did make big moves when it came time to get cutthroat. Pulling off two surprise evictions isn't easy and I also got Leo and Norm out exactly where I wanted them to. A floater is someone who just goes with the power and never puts themselves out there. I only ever had loyalty to two people, and I did put myself out there. It just so happened that the majority also wanted what I wanted. |
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 20:37:40 GMT -5
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Post by rainie on Aug 20, 2017 20:38:24 GMT -5
Hey welcome back Nick! :3 there a reason you were gone so long or just writing questions?
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 20:43:50 GMT -5
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Post by nick64 on Aug 20, 2017 20:47:15 GMT -5
Hello to both of you! I want to say yet again congrats! I know how it feels to make it there so no matter the outcome I hope you're both proud of your games! Now onto the reason I'm here. I'd like to know from ry4n, was there ever a chance for you and I to make it to the end? You were my #1 and I would like to know if that was ever a possibility in your mind to be sitting there with me? Also something that's come up with the answers to some of the other questions asked tonight that I'd like to discuss. You keep saying the challenges were what got you here, does this mean your social game was not strong enough? nick64, I said when I went out that it'd be hard to win for you. I'm personally convinced that's why you're here. I wouldn't call you a floater but you were definitely the safest choice to take post merge. Now having heard your responses to some of the other questions and having had time for reflection, I do think you played a better game than I initially thought. My question to you is this, do you think your seemingly easy path to the end was the only way for you to make it? You say your social game was strong and that's why you were able to stay under the radar. Do you believe those social ties would've been strong enough for you to play a more "flashy" game? And for both of you, you both have laid claim to pushing for my blindside, who really deserves the credit? Great question! It isn't the only way, but I do think it's the best. Being great at comps is a pretty reliable way to get here, but you put a target on your back for when you don't win one. Being way too flashy makes you lots of enemies, and if people see you as the biggest potential winner, allies that you have are likely to cut you when you get to a certain point because they know they won't win against. So I could have made a more flashy game, but if I did, I think I'd be much more likely to be asking these questions than answering them. |
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Post by nick64 on Aug 20, 2017 20:48:49 GMT -5
And yes, sorry about the brief absense! I had to drive my housemate to the hospital. He (probably) broke his arm. I'm just here waiting now.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 20:49:36 GMT -5
And yes, sorry about the brief absense! I had to drive my housemate to the hospital. He (probably) broke his arm. I'm just here waiting now. Oh damn! |
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Post by ry4n on Aug 20, 2017 20:49:37 GMT -5
I'd like to know from ry4n, was there ever a chance for you and I to make it to the end? You were my #1 and I would like to know if that was ever a possibility in your mind to be sitting there with me? Also something that's come up with the answers to some of the other questions asked tonight that I'd like to discuss. You keep saying the challenges were what got you here, does this mean your social game was not strong enough? And for both of you, you both have laid claim to pushing for my blindside, who really deserves the credit? I'll be honest - no. The main reason I went against you was because everybody in their goodbye messages kept saying you were going to win. But even if that wasn't a factor, it did feel like you were pulling the strings at times, and I think I would've seen you as a jury threat eventually. You would've had to have played a completely different game, or I would've had to have been in a really dire situation. It's hard to say. I played a game where I didn't want to be dragged to the end. Still, I survived the first half of the post-merge without any Immunity. I had relationships within the Lifou tribe that got me through. This is going to sound like a cop-out, but I'd say we both were. I feel like everybody in the Lifou alliance thought they were controlling things, including myself and Nick. Which is why I got defensive with the Shooter thing just now. I knew I wanted to get rid of you and Shooter first from the alliance, and I knew that pretty early on after the merge happened, but maybe Nick came up with the same idea independently of me? It's hard for me to speak for other people's games because I only saw things from my own perspective. |
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 20:51:36 GMT -5
Spidey Probst: Next to question the finalists is Sarah (SHOOTER). Please tag both of the finalists in your post. Nick ( nick64) and Todd ( ry4n), please answer in a prompt manner.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 20, 2017 20:54:34 GMT -5
Thank you both, I'm weighing options here and am still listening to what the rest of the jury asks you it's much closer in my mind than I initially thought.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 21:00:43 GMT -5
Here are Sarah ( SHOOTER)'s questions: Ryan: it's obvious the only reason you're in the final two is because you won challenges. That's not a strategy in my book. So why does someone who's just good at playing games deserve to be crowned the winner? Nick: I'm impressed that you managed to float your way to the final 2 even with penalty votes and managed to get me out in the process but being a floater with a lack of social skills isn't much of a strategy. If you win, it's almost like you won by default so what can you say you did to earn the title of being the winner? |
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Post by rainie on Aug 20, 2017 21:02:37 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 20, 2017 21:05:28 GMT -5
When are our votes due? It is 3am here and I can feel myself falling asleep
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 21:06:27 GMT -5
When are our votes due? It is 3am here and I can feel myself falling asleep You can send in your vote now if you need to. |
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 20, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -5
Spidey I'm having Internet Issues right now but let me write my things pls!
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Post by nick64 on Aug 20, 2017 21:07:25 GMT -5
Oh sorry Stacey, I missed the second part of your question. But I think Ryan summed it up pretty well. We both had the idea and generally executed it together.
For the Shooter thing, sorry Ryan, didn't mean to make it sound like I wasn't giving you any credit. You definitely had mentioned it as well. My claim for that is taking the charge for the actual thing, and for making my truce with Leo.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 20, 2017 21:10:18 GMT -5
Here are Sarah ( SHOOTER)'s questions: Ryan: it's obvious the only reason you're in the final two is because you won challenges. That's not a strategy in my book. So why does someone who's just good at playing games deserve to be crowned the winner? Nick: I'm impressed that you managed to float your way to the final 2 even with penalty votes and managed to get me out in the process but being a floater with a lack of social skills isn't much of a strategy. If you win, it's almost like you won by default so what can you say you did to earn the title of being the winner? Oh, NOW you wanna rush things along after letting this shït drag out for hours. I've never cared for Jeff Probst anyway. #dick But let me add: since you BOTH want credit so badly for masterminding my elimination, I'd like to know what makes either of you deserving of my vote since that was your biggest accomplishment this whole game.  |
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Post by ry4n on Aug 20, 2017 21:11:50 GMT -5
Here are Sarah ( SHOOTER)'s questions: Ryan: it's obvious the only reason you're in the final two is because you won challenges. That's not a strategy in my book. So why does someone who's just good at playing games deserve to be crowned the winner? I would argue that I did strategize and that challenges are a part of the game. I voiced my opinion on every single vote. I knew who I wanted to get rid of. I knew who I wanted to go to the end with. I wanted to be the biggest threat remaining in the game because I thought that would be a more compelling case to win if I did make it here. I know it sounds weird that I intentionally made my path to the F2 harder for myself, but that's because I didn't want an easy ride. I never would've accepted that Diamond Immunity necklace, for instance. |
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Post by matteeeb on Aug 20, 2017 21:12:12 GMT -5
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Post by nick64 on Aug 20, 2017 21:13:00 GMT -5
Here are Sarah ( SHOOTER)'s questions: Ryan: it's obvious the only reason you're in the final two is because you won challenges. That's not a strategy in my book. So why does someone who's just good at playing games deserve to be crowned the winner? Nick: I'm impressed that you managed to float your way to the final 2 even with penalty votes and managed to get me out in the process but being a floater with a lack of social skills isn't much of a strategy. If you win, it's almost like you won by default so what can you say you did to earn the title of being the winner? I'm not answering your question. I've taken enough personal insults in this game and held my tongue. But if you wanna be salty and rude, I'm not gonna stoop down and beg you for my vote. Not sorry. |
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 21:13:12 GMT -5
Excuse me? I have been posting multiple people's jury questions all night in order to run this as smoothly as possible. I cannot help it if the finalists are slow as fuck with answering the questions.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 20, 2017 21:14:24 GMT -5
Spidey Probst: Anyways... Twila (Leo ✔), your turn. Please tag both of the finalists in your post. Nick ( nick64) and Todd ( ry4n), please answer in a prompt manner.
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Heavy on the unless.
