irice22
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Post by irice22 on Aug 22, 2017 2:27:21 GMT -5
awesomechartsYou also got extremely unlucky. As I mentioned in a green room post, the "Big 4 alliance" as I called it (who contained Stacey, Leo, Ry4n, and Nick and were basically calling the shots at the time) were looking to add a fifth member and as they knew what a great player you were, they singled you out as someone that might be a valuable member. However, the cursed idol put a massive target on your back and made them go with Irice instead and more or less prompted the move to out someone they knew would be a big threat. Dunno if there's much you could have done here, you were quieter then usual during the first part of the game which I don't think helped you (you potentially could have joined their alliance earlier put more work into forming a counter alliance), but that may have been by design since you knew you already had a target on your back from prior seasons and didn't want to make yourself too much of a presence. Honestly there wasn't much you could've done here and I can't think of any major mistakes you made -- the cursed idol has potential as an equalizer but it's situations like this where it arbitrarily screws over one person that make me not advocate for its use in the future. I'd like to say and make clear I did not push for Narwhals's elimination here. I told him I wanted to keep him around and I did try to redirect the vote. I know he probably will never trust me if we ever play this together again but I did not want him gone here. I can confirm this. I remember the vote being nar vs nor and stacey fought to keep nar. Albeit, Stacey didn't fight *too* hard to keep nar, but fought nonetheless.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 22, 2017 2:55:21 GMT -5
I'd like to say and make clear I did not push for Narwhals's elimination here. I told him I wanted to keep him around and I did try to redirect the vote. I know he probably will never trust me if we ever play this together again but I did not want him gone here. I can confirm this. I remember the vote being nar vs nor and stacey fought to keep nar. Albeit, Stacey didn't fight *too* hard to keep nar, but fought nonetheless. Only do unbuilt I dub go withitg to pointy ebdvhuov offh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 20:05:50 GMT -5
Congrats nick 👍👍👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 20:10:57 GMT -5
awesomechartsYou also got extremely unlucky. As I mentioned in a green room post, the "Big 4 alliance" as I called it (who contained Stacey, Leo, Ry4n, and Nick and were basically calling the shots at the time) were looking to add a fifth member and as they knew what a great player you were, they singled you out as someone that might be a valuable member. However, the cursed idol put a massive target on your back and made them go with Irice instead and more or less prompted the move to out someone they knew would be a big threat. Dunno if there's much you could have done here, you were quieter then usual during the first part of the game which I don't think helped you (you potentially could have joined their alliance earlier put more work into forming a counter alliance), but that may have been by design since you knew you already had a target on your back from prior seasons and didn't want to make yourself too much of a presence. Honestly there wasn't much you could've done here and I can't think of any major mistakes you made -- the cursed idol has potential as an equalizer but it's situations like this where it arbitrarily screws over one person that make me not advocate for its use in the future. I'd like to say and make clear I did not push for Narwhals's elimination here. I told him I wanted to keep him around and I did try to redirect the vote. I know he probably will never trust me if we ever play this together again but I did not want him gone here. I owe you an apology for my badmouthing you then sorry 🙁 Props to ry4n though, cause I had no idea he was the one who was behind it then.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 22, 2017 20:13:35 GMT -5
I'd like to say and make clear I did not push for Narwhals's elimination here. I told him I wanted to keep him around and I did try to redirect the vote. I know he probably will never trust me if we ever play this together again but I did not want him gone here. I owe you an apology for my badmouthing you then sorry 🙁 Props to ry4n though, cause I had no idea he was the one who was behind it then. No worries I get why you thought it was me lol I've been waiting since it happened to explain it all, my rl friend has been laughing at me about it because I felt bad lol
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Post by ry4n on Aug 23, 2017 2:48:51 GMT -5
I'd like to say and make clear I did not push for Narwhals's elimination here. I told him I wanted to keep him around and I did try to redirect the vote. I know he probably will never trust me if we ever play this together again but I did not want him gone here. I owe you an apology for my badmouthing you then sorry 🙁 Props to ry4n though, cause I had no idea he was the one who was behind it then. Yeah, after Nick leaked the alliance, I was worried that you were going to flip on us. Everyone else, including Stacey, wanted Norm to go that round.
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Post by Sambalada on Aug 23, 2017 4:59:37 GMT -5
So apparently Nick got Narwhals eliminated? Holy s**t that's a genius strategy! Yaaas the underdog move at its finest!
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Post by ry4n on Aug 23, 2017 5:03:07 GMT -5
So apparently Nick got Narwhals eliminated? Holy s**t that's a genius strategy! Yaaas the underdog move at its finest! Yes and it was his master plan to not even submit a vote that round either!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 6:15:52 GMT -5
I owe you an apology for my badmouthing you then sorry 🙁 Props to ry4n though, cause I had no idea he was the one who was behind it then. Yeah, after Nick leaked the alliance, I was worried that you were going to flip on us. Everyone else, including Stacey, wanted Norm to go that round. Yeah nick saying that really confused me I was like why would you say that???? so I did get worried and I tried to make an alliance with nor, shooter and irice and in that PM we were supposed to vote you. But... the vote would've been 4-4 at best so that just meant drawing rocks and you & nor would be safe. So basically I wanted to flip but had no way to do so. I needed that cursed vote on one of you 4 and then I would've def been trying to flip on one of you. So I voted nor and hoped it would be a 5-3 vote for him to go but it didn't matter cause y'all voted me. The funny thing is that since nick didn't vote... we could've got you out if we all voted together. But I guess that never was a real plan anyway.
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:02:13 GMT -5
Sambalada (finally ;)) Ehh, a lot of what was said about mcsteamy could apply here too. You had some pretty bad luck and like steamy, were dead in the water following the tribe swap. However, I also think you could stand to be a bit more proactive and less picky about alliances. Even if you're not making a super serious long term one, I don't think reaching out to more people would have been a bad idea, and I don't think you should have based your alliances and future plans of your opinion of the players as heavily as well. Granted, it didn't really end up mattering, but in the future I could see you getting yourself Surf-ed where you end up making yourself a target because you pissed off the wrong person in the last season. I won't go too in depth about things so I don't spoil it but...if things would have done differently and you would've went through with your plan, I don't think it would've ended well for you. Also I noticed an rather small amount of people reaching out to you versus some of the other players which I can only assume was because of your reputation and personality -- this isn't inheritly an issue if you're as outgoing and proactive as mcsteamy, but you have to really put yourself out there if you have as strong of a personality as you do. Otherwise people will assume that you're just constantly pissy, which isn't a good look and sure won't help you make those alliances that you should have already made.
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:07:35 GMT -5
Dylan :)Dunno if there's much to say here. You played a respectable game, one that was pretty quiet and under the radar but it sounded like that was your plan all along so you did a good job following through with that. You really just got unlucky -- your alliances was *probably* in the outs before the rock draw that eliminated you sealed their fate, so I'm not sure how much longer you would've stayed, but I could have potentially seen you pulling a last season Leaf if you had stuck around. You certainly weren't on anyone's hit list and if you aced the final questions...who knows. Someone in the green room actually predicted you would win right before you lost the rock draw haha.
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:15:11 GMT -5
@walker9
Ehh, first off I'll need to state the obvious -- your gameplay was certainly not the best and your challenge performance was more often then not weak. However, I do think you played a better season then your last two, and you didn't make a whole lot of massive mistakes this time around, voting with your alliances and appearing to put more effort into the game. That being said you still were a lot less proactive then you should have been when it came to making connections, especially when it became apperently before you got eliminated the first time that no one was really on your side. Especially with a reputation like yours, as I was saying to Sam you're naturally going to have to put a lot more effort into making alliances if you want to be on the right side of the numbers, and your lousy challenge performances certainly weren't helping things. However I'll give you credit where credit it due for putting up a pretty decent time in the return challenge, and while you won because literally NO ONE ELSE PARTICIPATED (seriously, how did this happen?), you probably would've done okay regardless. Coming back into the game you did side with the wrong side of the numbers, but I honestly can't blame you for doing that as Stacey's alliance probably wasn't going to have you (and if they were they were likely going to use you as a pawn) whereas the other side desperately needed numbers and your extra vote was fairly close to actually flipping the game in their direction. Overall, you certainly improved, to the point of where I wouldn't call you the worst player of the season (you can take a guess to who I would apply that title to), but you still need to work on a few things, especially since your reputation is working against you as well.
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:21:37 GMT -5
LeafYeah feel like you just ended up on the wrong side of the numbers. You were actually one of my favorite players this season and I was really rooting for you -- I could see a clear improvement from last season as you were far more proactive while still maintaining a fairly low profile and doing planning from the shadows, not to mention your INSANE challenge scores. However there wasn't really much you could do once your alliance was down in the numbers, and you were basically just a sitting duck. Can't think of anything major you did wrong honestly, you just happened to be in a season where it took everyone way too long to see the writing on the wall as far as what would happen if no one overthrew Stacey's alliance. Better luck next time, it would be fun to see you play in this upcoming season c:
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:33:25 GMT -5
matteeebA lot of what I said about Leaf applies here too. You were one of my favorite players this season and I was rooting for you, but you were just on the wrong side of the numbers and despite your scrambling, no one was willing to work with you (which was painful to watch, as some of these players could have used your alliance and potential numbers to put themselves in a great position, even if it was one that didn't necessarily benefit you either). However, I do have to say that while you didn't do anything in the magnitude of last season, you should still be verrrry careful while making big moves and not draw too much attention to yourself. Throwing that reward challenge, while it may have made sense on paper, was a terrible move that singled you out and made the rest of your team, which consisted of 3 of the main members from the other alliance, know for sure that it was you vs them, which is sure to paint a giant red target on your back. I also wouldn't have skipped tribal that one night, as while it didn't really end up mattering as you probably couldn't get numbers regardless, it basically hung out Leaf out to dry and gave your alliance zero hope of rebounding. And it's not like you would have been able to easily join the other alliance as well, considering that had just pissed them off by throwing the reward. Like, you at least could have TRIED to be subtle about it, submitting a mediocre score, but no you literally made a single move and then submitted. But nonetheless you played a great season overall and it was really cool seeing your hustle every time you needed a vote -- however I would maintain a lower profile and consider how your moves may affect others more.
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 16:41:41 GMT -5
Kanenrá:keCan't think of too many wrong moves you made here, I think your elimination was largely just a result of your reputation supplemented by a few of the goodbye messages which exposed you as seemingly being in control of the game. I don't think things were that black and white, as most people in your alliance seemed to be on pretty equal footing, but you were certainly the unofficial leader and I think everyone knew that you would sweep the finals. I honestly don't think I would have done anything different in your situation -- you were already perceived as a threat early and you were probably going to carry this title around unless you really hung the radar, in which case your name would likely make you stick out as an easy target. Kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. Next time you play, however, I might reccomend hanging back a bit more and not placing yourself as the face of your alliance, though it doesn't feel like that was a title you chose as much as a title that was forced onto you.
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Post by matteeeb on Aug 23, 2017 17:37:04 GMT -5
matteeeb Throwing that reward challenge, while it may have made sense on paper, was a terrible move that singled you out and made the rest of your team, which consisted of 3 of the main members from the other alliance, know for sure that it was you vs them, which is sure to paint a giant red target on your back. I also wouldn't have skipped tribal that one night, as while it didn't really end up mattering as you probably couldn't get numbers regardless, it basically hung out Leaf out to dry and gave your alliance zero hope of rebounding. And it's not like you would have been able to easily join the other alliance as well, considering that had just pissed them off by throwing the reward. Like, you at least could have TRIED to be subtle about it, submitting a mediocre score, but no you literally made a single move and then submitted. About the 2048 comp, I was actually gonna submit a good score. I got like 16k, but I accidentally closed the tab on my computer and my high score didn't save. Then I thought about trying to get away with submitting my score from two seasons ago (which was 29140), but I wasn't sure if that would be considered cheating so I didn't risk it. Then Leo and I had a pretty big argument over his game so I was pretty mad at him at the time, so then I just went on my phone, made one move and called it quits, hoping I would get a funny reaction from him when the scores got revealed. I didn't care about the target on my back from Stacey/Shooter, since I was certain I already had one, it was really just a sad personal move that looking back at it I still would've done, but made it less obvious. Either way we still would've lost by over 100k points if I tried so lol. I think I said this in Pondrosa, but I would've let anyone else win the next reward competition, except Nor, and guess who was right behind me? I did feel bad for leaving Leo and Leaf all alone in the game, but the reality was one of the three of us was going to go home, and it was not going to be me.
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