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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 18, 2017 9:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 18, 2017 10:17:36 GMT -5
Overall AI Top 20 7/18/17
1. Despacito 187.796 (+0.520) 2. That's What I Like 171.453 (-0.720) 3. Stay 154.889 (-0.422) 4. Shape Of You 146.629 (-1.910) 5. I'm The One 132.441 (-2.718) *** 6. Believer 131.746 (+2.529) +1 7. Something Just Like This 128.858 (-0.975) -1 8. Wild Thoughts 125.442 (+3.795) +1 9. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 123.398 (+1.224) -1 10. Now Or Never 111.081 (+1.358) 11. It Ain't Me 108.248 (-0.937) 12. Body Like A Back Road 107.868 (+0.191) 13. Castle On The Hill 104.722 (+0.040) 14. Redbone 98.406 (-0.513) 15. Say You Won't Let Go 94.301 (-1.370) *** 16. Attention 86.615 (+1.932) 17. Unforgettable 83.761 (+0.308) *** +1 18. HUMBLE 82.442 (-1.499) -1 19. Issues 81.914 (-1.472) 20. My Girl 66.458 (+0.199)
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Post by NeRD on Jul 18, 2017 10:22:06 GMT -5
It's troubling that certain members are having a hard time admitting that Wild Thoughts is slowly turning what so many members deemed to be impossible into a completely reasonable possibility.
It'll be interesting to see how posts change in regards to Wild Thoughts within the next several weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:26:40 GMT -5
Isn't during this week that WT should have been ahead of Despacito according to some people?
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Post by mcsteamy on Jul 18, 2017 12:25:24 GMT -5
Isn't during this week that WT should have been ahead of Despacito according to some people? It was last week
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Post by Heartless Angel on Jul 18, 2017 13:57:30 GMT -5
Question: I know that Apple Music is counted in the streaming, but I'm confused about downloads. What I mean is a song I download from Apple Music to my phone, and then listen to it without really streaming it. How are those plays counted since I'm not streaming? Or is it consider a download and is thus reported as a download?
If it counts as streaming, then how does Apple Music know how many times I've played a song if I download it to my phone?
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Post by Zach on Jul 18, 2017 14:47:53 GMT -5
Question: I know that Apple Music is counted in the streaming, but I'm confused about downloads. What I mean is a song I download from Apple Music to my phone, and then listen to it without really streaming it. How are those plays counted since I'm not streaming? Or is it consider a download and is thus reported as a download? If it counts as streaming, then how does Apple Music know how many times I've played a song if I download it to my phone? Pretty sure it's counted as a stream and if you play it offline it registers when you next connect to the internet. That's how Spotify works at least.
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Post by pja on Jul 18, 2017 14:50:33 GMT -5
Question: I know that Apple Music is counted in the streaming, but I'm confused about downloads. What I mean is a song I download from Apple Music to my phone, and then listen to it without really streaming it. How are those plays counted since I'm not streaming? Or is it consider a download and is thus reported as a download? If it counts as streaming, then how does Apple Music know how many times I've played a song if I download it to my phone? All plays from Apple Music count as streaming. iTunes and the music app on iOS refreshes every so often (regardless if you have an Apple Music subscription or not) to sync play counts, skips etc across devices that share the same Apple ID.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 15:03:19 GMT -5
Question: I know that Apple Music is counted in the streaming, but I'm confused about downloads. What I mean is a song I download from Apple Music to my phone, and then listen to it without really streaming it. How are those plays counted since I'm not streaming? Or is it consider a download and is thus reported as a download? If it counts as streaming, then how does Apple Music know how many times I've played a song if I download it to my phone? All plays from Apple Music count as streaming. iTunes and the music app on iOS refreshes every so often (regardless if you have an Apple Music subscription or not) to sync play counts, skips etc across devices that share the same Apple ID. So basically, Big Brother Apple and Spotify are watching?
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 18, 2017 15:04:42 GMT -5
It's troubling that certain members are having a hard time admitting that Wild Thoughts is slowly turning what so many members deemed to be impossible into a completely reasonable possibility. It'll be interesting to see how posts change in regards to Wild Thoughts within the next several weeks. what is it turning into? 30K is still a large gap to overcome.
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Post by Normi on Jul 18, 2017 15:05:41 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts will be Top 5 radio next week (probably #4) The week after that #2 And then #1 (predictions lol)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 15:13:50 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts may have a chance, but Despacito would need to have an epic decline during the next few weeks. And since it's being held up primarily by streaming, especially the slow as fuck youtube, that's probably not gonna happen. Despacito is probably gonna get 14 weeks at least if Wild Thoughts is its only competition.
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Post by Envoirment on Jul 18, 2017 15:36:01 GMT -5
Isn't "Despacito" outselling "Wild Thoughts" 3:1 on iTunes though? Maybe they could discount "Wild Thoughts" in a week or two to try to get to #1.
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 18, 2017 15:42:12 GMT -5
Isn't "Despacito" outselling "Wild Thoughts" 3:1 on iTunes though? Maybe they could discount "Wild Thoughts" in a week or two to try to get to #1. I think that's the only way for Wild Thoughts to get to #1. Even with Rihanna's star power, it's still not enough to get to #1. It's gaining in airplay and streaming, while Despacito is wavering on peaked airplay, and declining despacito on every other category. Wild Thoughts needs a .69 discount, if it can get to #1.
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Post by Normi on Jul 18, 2017 16:01:17 GMT -5
Wait until it's #1 in Radio (when it seems peaking) Streaming will catch up and sales a bit When the discount comes then it might make it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:19:59 GMT -5
I'm The One never got a discount. Why would this get one? Seems pure speculation and wishful thinking but I guess anything is possible.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 18, 2017 16:23:32 GMT -5
I'm the One debuted at #1. There was no reason to discount it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:31:32 GMT -5
Ok
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Post by Heartless Angel on Jul 19, 2017 9:17:12 GMT -5
All plays from Apple Music count as streaming. iTunes and the music app on iOS refreshes every so often (regardless if you have an Apple Music subscription or not) to sync play counts, skips etc across devices that share the same Apple ID. So basically, Big Brother Apple and Spotify are watching? Thank you for answering. That clarifies what I didn't understand. Do you know if there is a failsafe for people who could potentially stream the same song over and over again? Like a stan looping the same video music on YouTube. LOL
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 19, 2017 9:18:52 GMT -5
Overall AI Top 20 7/19/17:
1. Despacito 187.650 (-0.146) 2. That's What I Like 170.712 (-0.741) 3. Stay 152.866 (-2.023) 4. Shape Of You 143.518 (-3.111)*** 5. Believer 133.523 (+1.777) +1 6. I'm The One 130.988 (-1.453) -1 7. Wild Thoughts 128.058 (+2.616) +1 8. Something Just Like This 127.709 (-1.149) -1 9. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 125.249 (+1.851) 10. Now Or Never 112.256 (+1.175) 11. Body Like A Back Road 107.932 (+0.064) +1 12. It Ain't Me 107.183 (-1.065) -1 13. Castle On The Hill 104.515 (-0.207) 14. Redbone 98.335 (-0.071)*** 15. Say You Won't Let Go 93.479 (-0.822) 16. Attention 88.686 (+2.071) 17. Unforgettable 84.407 (+0.646)*** 18. HUMBLE 81.358 (-1.084) 19. Issues 79.446 (-2.468) 20. My Girl 65.870 (-0.588)
Outliers:
21. Slow Hands 65.326 (+0.498) 26. Do I Make You Wanna 51.591 (+1.021) +2 28. Every Time I Hear That Song 49.857 (-1.376) -1 33. XO TOUR Llif3 45.998 (+1.613) +5***
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Post by Normi on Jul 19, 2017 9:22:39 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts overtakes I'm the one tomorrow Slow Hands Top 20 tomorrow!! at XO TOUR Llif3 taking off now on Radio, but it deserves it!
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 19, 2017 14:27:57 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 19, 2017 17:30:18 GMT -5
atrl.net/forums/topic/55481-billboard-charts-july-16-22-2017/?page=12Early predictions 1 Despacito 695 (=) -1% 2 Wild Thoughts 405 (=) +2% 3 I'm The One 367 (=) 4 That's What I Like 331 (=) 5 Unforgettable 301 (+4) 6 Believer 292 (+1) 7 Shape Of You 276 (-2) 8 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 263 (=) 9 Attention 249 (+4) 10 Congratulations 235 (+1) 11 Humble 234 (-5) 12 Stay 225 (=) 13 Redbone 218 (+1) 14 Something Just Like This 214 (+1) 15 XO Tour Lif3 205 (+1) 16 Body Like A Back Road 199 (-6) 17 Now Or Never 196 (=) 18 Mask Off 193 (=) 19 Slow Hands 184 (=) 20 Fetish 172 (+72)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:36:04 GMT -5
These 1-2% weekly drops for Despacito despite an airplay peak are seriously making me wonder what has a chance in hell of dethroning it before 15 weeks. I thought Taylor could do it, but now I'm not so sure. I'm starting to think it might dethrone PRA for the decade-end at this point.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 19, 2017 19:37:17 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top. So, it's a lock to have a week 18 because during the tenth week it had a sales boost..? Care to explain?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:41:25 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top. Still gaining this much at 10 weeks? Yep, I think it'll get to at least 15. But it depends on how much Wild Thoughts gains or loses too, just keep that in mind.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 19, 2017 20:02:57 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top. Still gaining this much at 10 weeks? Yep, I think it'll get to at least 15. But it depends on how much Wild Thoughts gains or loses too, just keep that in mind. Due to people learning that it broke the record. It will ware of soon, and this may actually damage Despacito. People that would buy it in the future, bought it now. It may lose longevity because of this. Unforgettable is coming for that #1!
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 19, 2017 20:07:15 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top. So, it's a lock to have a week 18 because during the tenth week it had a sales boost..? Care to explain? No, I'm saying that it will break the record, but it could extend it to 18 if possible. I'm just saying it has 17 or maybe more.
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 19, 2017 20:09:01 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a lock for 17+ weeks at the top. Still gaining this much at 10 weeks? Yep, I think it'll get to at least 15. But it depends on how much Wild Thoughts gains or loses too, just keep that in mind. It's being outsold by Despacito by at least 4:1 or more. The only area WT is gaining is airplay, and possibly streaming, (Even though it did slip harder on on-demand streaming more than Despacito) and YouTube, Despacito is a fucking monster with both versions keeping it propped up.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 19, 2017 20:09:43 GMT -5
kworb.net/pop/Despacito is now getting HUGE sales boost, thanks to the news breaking saying that it broke the streaming record. I'd say it's a ->lock<- for ->17+<- weeks at the top.
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