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Post by Gabe on Oct 2, 2017 14:42:17 GMT -5
Wait.... TRL was all about the countdown. I don't understand why they would bring the show back without the countdown. WTF? Not interested in watching it at all if there is no countdown.
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Post by stunnedout on Oct 2, 2017 14:57:26 GMT -5
No countdown then it's no point.
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 2, 2017 16:16:34 GMT -5
And... it was an unmitigated disaster. The show literally has no point without the countdown.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Oct 2, 2017 20:56:11 GMT -5
And... it was an unmitigated disaster. The show literally has no point without the countdown. It was awful. They might as well bring back The Hills, Laguna Beach or even Jersey Shore. Those dumpster fires are at least low-key entertaining.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 2, 2017 22:49:39 GMT -5
And... it was an unmitigated disaster. The show literally has no point without the countdown. It was awful. They might as well bring back The Hills, Laguna Beach or even Jersey Shore. Those dumpster fires are at least low-key entertaining. Iconic and generation driven classics like The Hills and Laguna Beach will not be tarnished with such words as "dumpster fires", except for the Kristin led seasons of The Hills, that sh!t was garbage.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Oct 2, 2017 23:29:31 GMT -5
I wish Daria and Undressed would come back.
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Post by forg on Oct 3, 2017 0:03:52 GMT -5
Without the countdown? That's a mistake
They could easily get those younger people to tune in with a countdown, fan wars is easy buzz on social media alone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 0:46:25 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding me with this no countdown mess. and so is this reboot, before it even got started. If this is what they call effort I shudder to think what lazy would look like from them, b/c this is the definition of not even trying.
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 3, 2017 17:56:13 GMT -5
166,000 viewers on Day 1. Yep.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Oct 3, 2017 18:01:49 GMT -5
PRETTYMUCH performed today. It was pretty good actually.
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Post by Music Fan on Oct 3, 2017 18:42:57 GMT -5
Attempted to watch yesterday's show and didn't make it past Migo's performance. The hosts are kind of annoying honestly -- trying to hard. What was the point of having Liza twerk for a minute, and fail? Bring back Vanessa Minillio, Damien Fahey and Carson Daly and then maybe I'll tune in again.
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Post by Anticonformity on Oct 4, 2017 3:12:10 GMT -5
PRETTYMUCH performed today. It was pretty good actually. Name change confirmed: PRETTYGOOD
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 4, 2017 16:46:16 GMT -5
135,000 viewers on Day 2.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 4, 2017 19:50:04 GMT -5
Yikes lol
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Oct 4, 2017 21:10:20 GMT -5
These numbers are bad.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 6, 2017 15:17:52 GMT -5
They brought back sort of a countdown aspect today due to demand. Also the listings for next week indicate more of a countdown show
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 6, 2017 19:28:50 GMT -5
This reminds me of Portlandia and the episode focusing on them taking back MTV to the old days. These new execs are f#cking clueless. What's the purpose of having social media stars as hosts when you take out the social aspect of TRL. Total REQUEST Live dammit, REQUEST! The whole fun of the show was fanbase wars and trying to get your favorites onto the countdown. This could be something to introduce K-Pop and other foreign acts into US soil by having their fans vote to get them onto the countdown through Twitter, Facebook polls, and Instagram hashtags.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:36:12 GMT -5
Welp they handled this terribly even though it could've clearly been much better, terrible execution and if those numbers don't change this is so gonna get canned, what a shame
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 7, 2017 5:36:56 GMT -5
It really defines executives being tone deaf and out of touch in 2017. I think any of us could easily put together a show 10x better and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
Have these producers and execs been on Twitter? They seem to know all about social media stars but not the actual content that drives Twitter among music fans... aka the stan wars. Could you imagine them doing like Taylor Swift vs. Camila vs. BTS vs. Niall Horan or something? I mean that lends itself to a HUGE get for them socially everyday if you had to vote on Instagram, Twitter, FB, etc. I mean, this is like common sense.
Plus, they're banking WAY too much on these social "stars" because almost all of their content is focused on them (i.e. Dolan brothers, who are 'correspondents' yet have no credentials... much like the rest of these hosts).
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 7, 2017 5:38:39 GMT -5
Day 1: 166,000 Day 2: 135,000 Day 3: 113,000 Day 4: 119,000
Something obviously needs to change here. No one is expecting 500k for a show aimed at teens at 3:30p, but still. These are awful.
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Post by Choco on Oct 7, 2017 15:44:56 GMT -5
Even worse than the ratings: there's zero buzz for this so far.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 7, 2017 18:32:32 GMT -5
We'll see how this goes. I honestly don't think it's a good idea to nix the countdown. First of all, it's called Total *REQUEST* Live. I don't think millennials will give a s**t about commentators talking about fashion and sneakers. It's 2017, and videos are still huge. Sure, you can watch them whenever you want but there's still something special about seeing them in a countdown on TV. Plus, stan wars are still at an all time high, so the traffic MTV could get on their sites and social pitting the fanbases against each other daily (and you know the fanbases would be on board), would be something huge to take advantage of. Actually, it's just called "TRL." At one point it did stand for "Total Request Live," but at a certain point they got away from it to be just "TRL" (much like the "M" in "MTV" has stopped standing for "Music"). Having said that, I don't get the point of this reboot. I understand tweaking the formula since it's been a decade, but why use "TRL" if it's a whole new show? More so, I don't yet understand the concept. Well, I guess it's live TV with random music guests? Also, the time the show airs makes little sense as most teens are still in school or on their way home. Why not 4:00 or 4:30?
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Post by MiniMusic on Oct 8, 2017 9:39:56 GMT -5
Didn't this show used to be on at 5PM? That was a way better time. Or maybe it was 6PM?
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Post by newpower on Oct 10, 2017 14:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 14:30:52 GMT -5
It really defines executives being tone deaf and out of touch in 2017. I think any of us could easily put together a show 10x better and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. IKR, they could have hired me! Hell, I gave them the keys to the kingdom for free on page 1 and they go and do this, smh Didn't this show used to be on at 5PM? That was a way better time. Or maybe it was 6PM? The time slot wasn't static but they were definitely aware of their audience back then - they'd start it a little earlier in the summer and then move it back in the fall/spring. But even for the earlier summer times I don't think it was ever on earlier than 4 or 4:30 EST.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 10, 2017 14:37:11 GMT -5
They need to stop with the "revivals". Leave TRL to history with Headbangers Ball, 120 Minutes proper, and Yo! MTV Raps as shows for their pop culture in their own era.
A show centering around social media involvement that used TRL as an inspiration would actually be a great move, but come up with a new title for today.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 10, 2017 15:54:58 GMT -5
They need to stop with the "revivals". Leave TRL to history with Headbangers Ball, 120 Minutes proper, and Yo! MTV Raps as shows for their pop culture in their own era. A show centering around social media involvement that used TRL as an inspiration would actually be a great move, but come up with a new title for today. Yo! MTV'S WOKE is only a few keystrokes away. Hosted by DeRay Mckesson and Fifth Harmony's Lauren Jauregui.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 10, 2017 17:02:38 GMT -5
Didn't this show used to be on at 5PM? That was a way better time. Or maybe it was 6PM? The timeslot always shifted around. In earlier days, I believe it was early afternoon. It wasn't until later in its run that it was at 5PM.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 10, 2017 19:16:04 GMT -5
Didn't this show used to be on at 5PM? That was a way better time. Or maybe it was 6PM? The timeslot always shifted around. In earlier days, I believe it was early afternoon. It wasn't until later in its run that it was at 5PM. It used to be early around 330PM Central Time because I used to run my ass off the bus so I could catch at least the Top 5.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Nov 7, 2017 18:06:45 GMT -5
‘TRL’ Is Back on MTV, but Undone by the InternetBy JON CARAMANICA OCT. 25, 2017 Ed Sheeran performed on the premiere of the revamped “TRL” on MTV. Credit Bennett Raglin/Mtv Even though it’s been on the air for less than a month, the reboot of “TRL” on MTV already has a few signature moves. There is the bumbling repetition of interview questions, because no one seems to be able to hear anything over the screaming audience members. There is the smoke that engulfs guests as they enter, and that in a few cases has left them disoriented. And there is the occasional paternal pat on the shoulder the guests give the hosts, a gesture of dominance and control, the sort of thing an elder does to let the youth know to turn it down a notch. The seams are visible, and frayed, on “TRL,” which is currently in its fourth week and no steadier than it was in its first. In its initial incarnation, which ran from 1998 to 2008, “TRL” — originally “Total Request Live” — was the essential countdown show of the teen-pop era. It took place after school and often filled the streets of Times Square with shrieking teenagers. But that was when the phone screen was less enticing than the television screen, when music was closer to the heart of MTV’s mission. The hosts of the new “TRL”: Matt Rife, Tamara Dhia and DC Young Fly. Credit Bennett Raglin/Getty Images, via MTV The “TRL” of 2017 is less a coherent show than a series of loosely threaded distractions. Each episode is an hour but feels like two. It is preoccupied with viral moments but creates none of its own, or barely anything even worth a GIF. (One exception: the recent sketch that found DJ Khaled break dancing and dropping to the floor for a backspin.) TRL ✔@trl soooo this just happened djkhaled #TRL 11:44 AM - Oct 18, 2017 22 22 Replies 145 145 Retweets 567 567 likes Twitter Ads info and privacy The fact that the internet has leached attention and relevance away from television is only part of what’s befuddling this show — plenty of television is premised on digesting and commenting on things that happen online. But those shows — say, “Desus & Mero,” or even late-night talk-show monologues — specialize in personalities and commentary. “TRL” is a mishmash and has the additional problem of trying to build a tentpole television series out of the component parts of internet personalities, who are generally poorly suited to the task. That’s true of the musical guests, many of whom found fame online and aren’t kiln-fired in the glare of camera lights. An interview with the young rap star Lil Uzi Vert elicited about a couple dozen words from him. Playboi Carti looked somnolent during his performance. When actual famous people, like Fifth Harmony, Ed Sheeran or Pitbull, showed up, their professionalism was almost disruptive. On the episode when Jhené Aiko spoke of keeping a journal after the death of her brother, it was as if the channel had flipped. Two of the show’s hosts got their breaks online: DC Young Fly was a comedy star on Vine, and Tamara Dhia spoofed the Kardashians and race relations in online videos. The third, Matt Rife, is a comedian. Dressed in prohibitively expensive streetwear, they are an odd grouping. DC Young Fly is unnervingly antic; he’s built like one of those inflated tube men that flap outside of car dealerships, and moves like one, too. Roughly once an episode, Mr. Rife blurts out an off-color remark that makes his co-hosts wince — talking about hot naked yoga to Noah Cyrus, who is 17, or joking about R. Kelly or Bill Cosby. Both men awkwardly flirt with female guests. Neither seems particularly interested in music: DC Young Fly mispronounced Dua Lipa, and Mr. Rife fumbled A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie. (This week, without explanation, Mr. Rife missed two shows, and DC Young Fly, one.) Over the first three weeks, you could slowly sense Ms. Dhia wresting some semblance of control. She is the most convincing as a host, even though she often appears drained by the spectacle around her, as if she were an elementary schoolteacher watching the class descend into chaos. And there is plenty of that. Each episode is crammed tight: appearances from actors and actresses from teen-friendly TV shows; dull skits featuring upstreamed social media personalities like the Dolan Twins, Gabbie Hanna and Liza Koshy (whose loud shenanigans make more sense in the tight confines of online video); games in which audience members compete for cash, including one where a young woman took a pie to the face. (Cue Mr. Rife: “There’s way grosser ways to earn money for college, trust me.”) Unforced errors abound, including oodles of technical hiccups: sloppy camerawork, dead air, missed cues. Often, guests seem caught off guard by what they’re asked, and sometimes the hosts seem unprepared, like when DC Young Fly thought meme was pronounced “me me.” There are also moments of poor judgment, as when a schoolteacher was brought on to judge a sketch, and after DC Young Fly lost, he pointed out that the teacher — who probably doesn’t have the wardrobe budget of a TV host — still had the tag on her jacket. At times, “TRL” evinces a political and social consciousness. The hosts freely insult President Trump, perhaps a response to a backlash-generating interview given by the showrunner, Albert Lewitinn, in which he said “we would welcome” Mr. Trump on the show. And there is music: a meaningless weekly countdown drawn from songs — nepotistic or crassly promotional or just plain random — picked by the week’s guests; absurdly softball interviews that make Damien Fahey look like Mike Wallace; and performances that are often overlaid with visual effects to distract from their plainness. At least Lil Uzi Vert jumped on stuff. But the musical guests have been inconsistent, a mélange of once-weres and not-quite-yets, a reflection of how little sway MTV currently has with the music industry. Cardi B recently topped the Billboard Hot 100 with “Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)” for three weeks. But while she’s been mentioned on about half of the show’s episodes thus far — including a sketch featuring a birthday cake with her image on it — she has not appeared yet. (Yet a 6-year-old girl who went viral online for rapping the song has.) On the plus side, that means more opportunity for young artists like the impressive and almost impossibly professional new boy band PrettyMuch, which looks and sounds like a holdover from the peak “TRL” era, and Billie Eilish, who appeared in her interview to be a promising pop dissident, at least up until she began singing, or lip syncing. Still, the show looks slick, even if the gap between the gloss of the set and the people occupying it is vast. But waiting for everyone to become polished enough to look at home there is likely a waste of time. Maybe the solution is to go the other direction and turn “TRL” into something more anarchic and less predictable. Forget trying to clean up the internet for television — let the internet run wild, and pray that the cameras can keep up. www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/arts/music/trl-total-request-live-mtv.html
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