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Post by Caviar on Aug 22, 2018 12:09:30 GMT -5
Meghan is a Grammy winning artist and if you don't like it..then DEAL.
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Post by Ty on Aug 22, 2018 12:25:28 GMT -5
Is it really shelved? The iTunes Store pre-order section still puts her name on the frontpage.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 22, 2018 12:26:06 GMT -5
Meghan is a Grammy winning artist and if you don't like it..then DEAL. This is such a bizarre sentiment. Who doesn't like that Meghan has a Grammy? Since when does a BNA Grammy guarantee lasting success? We're dealing. Meghan is dealing. Her fans are not.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Aug 22, 2018 12:26:21 GMT -5
Wait...was the album actually SHELVED? I thought it was postponed LOL.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 22, 2018 12:39:05 GMT -5
Meghan is a Grammy winning artist and if you don't like it..then DEAL. This is such a bizarre sentiment. Who doesn't like that Meghan has a Grammy? Since when does a BNA Grammy guarantee lasting success? We're dealing. Meghan is dealing. Her fans are not. Her fans are dealing. The general public is coming around. Advising that she change her career is the bizarre statement.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 22, 2018 12:42:02 GMT -5
This is such a bizarre sentiment. Who doesn't like that Meghan has a Grammy? Since when does a BNA Grammy guarantee lasting success? We're dealing. Meghan is dealing. Her fans are not. Her fans are dealing. The general public is coming around. Advising that she change her career is the bizarre statement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 12:56:32 GMT -5
Thank You is platinum, produced two well known Top 10 hits, and she headlined a tour. You come across so biased and naive when you decry it as a flop era. Can you honestly just take your haterade somewhere else? She seems like a really sweet girl in life and I'm glad that she will have wonderful stories to share with her kids and grandkids some day.
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Post by Ty on Aug 22, 2018 13:14:57 GMT -5
Lmfao. Her career is far from over you guys. Look at Rachel Platten
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 13:19:17 GMT -5
Aw I was anticipating her album tbh, I liked all...5 songs she released Yeah 5, plus they're using them for like Target ads as far as I've seen
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Post by Mayman on Aug 22, 2018 13:25:37 GMT -5
She should just release an EP with the five songs already released, tack on two new songs and call it a day.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Aug 22, 2018 13:32:18 GMT -5
Lmfao. Her career is far from over you guys. Look at Rachel Platten who is that
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 22, 2018 13:36:20 GMT -5
Lmfao. Her career is far from over you guys. Look at Rachel Platten who is that
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Post by Bwol on Aug 22, 2018 13:40:50 GMT -5
Lmfao. Her career is far from over you guys. Look at Rachel Platten who is that Attachment Deleted
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Aug 22, 2018 13:44:31 GMT -5
I donât think this image is loading correctly, Glove.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 22, 2018 13:45:58 GMT -5
I donât think this image is loading correctly, Glove. It's the best picture of her out there actually
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 22, 2018 13:46:17 GMT -5
I donât think this image is loading correctly, Glove. It should be beige. But she's the one who sang Fight Song.
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Post by Bhad Bill on Aug 22, 2018 15:52:42 GMT -5
I donât think this image is loading correctly, Glove. It should be beige. But she's the one who sang Fight Song. Here's Rachel at the 2018 Women's March in LA. She's actually been rocking some beautiful looks lately, I've noticed on Instagram. I think what they were getting at was that even though she only charted two songs, has a lot of hate for being "plain" or "beige" (which Glove Slap, don't worry, I know that was just good shade and not ignorance / hate), she still gets BOOKED. She is everywhere, always performing live. Even though her commercial success was very limited and is now extremely dead, she still has a career. Back to Meghan, I will be really upset if the album is shelved. I honestly loved all 5 songs... I agree that she should put out an EP. I hate when artists drop their singles and don't attach their releases to a project.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 22, 2018 17:38:12 GMT -5
She NEEDS a better producer. Badly. Most of her songs now are good lyrically and fun but just way way too basic and boring production wise. They feel like demos for other artists
She also needs to get with the times. I love pop obviously but it just isnât what is popular right now. Some songs break through like Meant To Be, Bad At Love, The Middle and No Tears Left To Cry but it isnât worth releasing all this pop stuff right now if you want chart success (which she might not want to do, but probably does with this album shelving). I think a sound she needs to explore during this pop isnât big phase on the charts is the sound of Like Iâm Gonna Lose You. Simple but somewhat complex production, good lyrics, pop but also calm like a lot of popular songs now, etc. Everything she has put out so far just isnât going to work now. Itâs too pop and the lyric content isnât going to work, it did in 2014 and it did with NĂ but I canât see it working now. She has the voice, songwriting skills and I would even argue the personality. But the production and genre is not there. The sound of Like Iâm Gonna Lose You is something she can use to her advantage, I think (plus it is one of her best songs). Obviously not a carbon copy but even stuff similar to Better too
EDIT: A perfect example of poor production is Let You Be Right. It starts good with the intro but then the first verse falls flat with a weak *whatever drum that is*. The first chorus needs a stronger electric guitar. That crash at the start of it is way too.. lonely? It happens in all choruses and just sounds like it was tacked in last minute just because. The first âdropâ gets it mostly right. Itâs strong and feels like it actually has layers of instruments, but the âlet you be rightâ again fall flat. The second verse is the same as the first and so has the same problem. It also needs to introduce a new instrument. Maybe another snap. In the second part they can introduce some chimes and bells like Blank Space The second pre chorus needs stronger bass and maybe a âoooâ background vocal to fill the gap and make it different from the first one. It can also be used to cause a swell effect into the second chorus which will be stronger than the first one. The second chorus is basically the exact same as the first, bar some short ad libs, and Iâm already sick of the crash. The second drop is way too short and goes nowhere as the bridge just dies. It should have at least two more loops and an âooooâ vocal leading up to the transition to the bridge. As the drop goes on it needs to introduce stronger drums and a building effect stem leading up to the bridge which then crashes when the bridge is softer. They could even introduce some more lyrics here. The bridge instrumental is too empty and it would be great if there was a soft chorus of âooo, ooooâs. The second part of the bridge is so weak and leads up to an insanely weak last chorus. Again, thereâs that crash we are already sick of. There are some ad libs but the instrumental isnât stronger than the rest. There needs to be more background vocals and some âoooâs leading to the drop. Maybe even a very quiet crowd chant would help. The last drop needs to have a better pay off, possibly by adding a saxophone like in Donât Let Me Down but subtle so it doesnât sound out of place. Again, more background vocals and drums to make it feel bigger. There is no pay off and suddenly the song ends. Great lyrics and singing but production wise, demo material
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Post by wjr15 on Aug 22, 2018 17:45:32 GMT -5
I'm still surprised that she has never worked with Max Martin or Shellbeck yet. Between her songwriting and their production, they could craft some great pop songs that might better appeal to the current CHR climate.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 22, 2018 17:54:02 GMT -5
I'm still surprised that she has never worked with Max Martin or Shellbeck yet. Between her songwriting and their production, they could craft some great pop songs that might better appeal to the current CHR climate. I was about to say. I could see her making a huge hit with Max Martin. She has the lyrics, he has the production skills she is missing with her current producers
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Post by Ty on Aug 22, 2018 17:57:00 GMT -5
I think Ricky Reed produced for her some pretty solid songs from Thank You. It's more of a problem of her public image.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 22, 2018 18:03:04 GMT -5
Also, wow. I just checked her channel, No Excusesâ video has 61 million views and Let You Be Rightâs has 10 million
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Post by Dammn Baby on Aug 22, 2018 18:12:59 GMT -5
A good strategy would be to completely drop all the juvenile fluff she's associated with. I mean, she's fucking the dude from Spy Kids.
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Post by wjr15 on Aug 22, 2018 18:14:37 GMT -5
There were some great bops on Thank You but I'm not sure what they should do with her image.
Meghan changed her image between Title and Thank You. She went from the cute, fun, blonde new girl to the redhead/brunette confident, ego-filled girl and a lot of people weren't really buying that image. Now it seems like she reverted back to her original image that made her popular in the first place.
Her music seems to have changed each era too. Title was the 50s doo-wops, Thank You was a more early 2000s pop/urban pop vibe, and Treat Myself (if that's even gonna still happen) is just pure pop/dancepop which isn't exactly huge on CHR right now.
Her team keeps switching things up but nothing is sticking.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 22, 2018 18:16:08 GMT -5
I think NO was a great progression for her, and then Me Too happened..
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Post by Lumi on Aug 23, 2018 1:46:13 GMT -5
Was this really shelved? Yikes...
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Post by theflying on Aug 23, 2018 3:20:09 GMT -5
That title change is the shadiest thing Iâve seen on this forum in a long time.
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Post by Troublemaker on Aug 23, 2018 6:05:38 GMT -5
I need her team to be more proactive and take it off iTunes if it wonât be released in 2 weeks, unsuspecting people are still preordering it...
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 23, 2018 7:06:23 GMT -5
There were some great bops on Thank You but I'm not sure what they should do with her image. Meghan changed her image between Title and Thank You. She went from the cute, fun, blonde new girl to the redhead/brunette confident, ego-filled girl and a lot of people weren't really buying that image. Now it seems like she reverted back to her original image that made her popular in the first place. Her music seems to have changed each era too. Title was the 50s doo-wops, Thank You was a more early 2000s pop/urban pop vibe, and Treat Myself (if that's even gonna still happen) is just pure pop/dancepop which isn't exactly huge on CHR right now. Her team keeps switching things up but nothing is sticking. I think part of the problem is that they are changing too much too fast. You can change your look or you can change your sound or you can change your persona, but you can't do all 3 at the same time without alienating everybody.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 23, 2018 9:50:17 GMT -5
Besides Christina, I've never seen so many words for somebody that a lot of people on this board despise.
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