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Post by Troublemaker on Nov 11, 2017 8:42:09 GMT -5
Seems to me Miranda is pissed she didn’t win album of the year. She and her boyfriend combined will NEVER accomplish quarter of his records. There’s a difference between kitchen table talk and bad mouthing others. I’m not a fan of lipping but that’s not enough for them to be vocal about it. There are other pressing issues in the world... like how she can start selling more tickets on her tour #justsaying
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 12:26:54 GMT -5
Yeah I'm in agreement that while it's fair to find fault in Garth lipping, to take to social media about it while you are an artist in a genre that has always had a family feel and just got done preaching unity is a bit unnecessary.
Did Garth kick Anderson's puppy or something? It's one thing to have an issue with it, but another entirely to bring it up in a public forum when nobody asked your opinion in the first place.
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Post by LBTrocks on Nov 11, 2017 12:40:59 GMT -5
IMO if "the voice just isn't there anymore" then he shouldn't have performed, plain and simple. Or just sing it and let people hear your real voice, whatever state it may be in. And if you can't sing because you might damage your vocal chords... there ya go. That's a valid reason as to why you couldn't perform. I don't want to see someone lip their own song on an awards show where they are later going to win the most prestigious award of the evening.
Is Anderson East famous or something or is he literally just known cuz Miranda? I have no clue who he is, but the way I see it... he's a guy with an opinion, so I see no problem with him sharing it. Free speech is not exclusive to non-celebrities. Additionally, I think he actually had a valid point. Miranda also had an opinion and I don't think she should be required to keep it to herself either just because Garth happens to be one of her "co-workers" in the music business.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 11, 2017 12:42:27 GMT -5
I mean... seriously LOL ![](https://media.tenor.com/images/cce8d8240b708d8a6e8ff7bd48222d30/tenor.gif)
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 11, 2017 12:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah I'm in agreement that while it's fair to find fault in Garth lipping, to take to social media about it while you are an artist in a genre that has always had a family feel and just got done preaching unity is a bit unnecessary. Did Garth kick Anderson's puppy or something? It's one thing to have an issue with it, but another entirely to bring it up in a public forum when nobody asked your opinion in the first place. This is a very sensible response to it all.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 11, 2017 12:52:57 GMT -5
IMO if "the voice just isn't there anymore" then he shouldn't have performed, plain and simple. Or just sing it and let people hear your real voice, whatever state it may be in. And if you can't sing because you might damage your vocal chords... there ya go. That's a valid reason as to why you couldn't perform. I don't want to see someone lip their own song on an awards show where they are later going to win the most prestigious award of the evening. Is Anderson East famous or something or is he literally just known cuz Miranda? I have no clue who he is, but the way I see it... he's a guy with an opinion, so I see no problem with him sharing it. Free speech is not exclusive to non-celebrities. Additionally, I think he actually had a valid point. Miranda also had an opinion and I don't think she should be required to keep it to herself either just because Garth happens to be one of her "co-workers" in the music business. This is a very sensible response to it all.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 11, 2017 12:56:31 GMT -5
IMO if "the voice just isn't there anymore" then he shouldn't have performed, plain and simple. Or just sing it and let people hear your real voice, whatever state it may be in. And if you can't sing because you might damage your vocal chords... there ya go. That's a valid reason as to why you couldn't perform. I don't want to see someone lip their own song on an awards show where they are later going to win the most prestigious award of the evening. Is Anderson East famous or something or is he literally just known cuz Miranda? I have no clue who he is, but the way I see it... he's a guy with an opinion, so I see no problem with him sharing it. Free speech is not exclusive to non-celebrities. Additionally, I think he actually had a valid point. Miranda also had an opinion and I don't think she should be required to keep it to herself either just because Garth happens to be one of her "co-workers" in the music business. This is a very sensible response to it all. Then please explain how the Anderson and Lambert public commentary fall in line with Lambert's acceptance speech about community.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 13:03:08 GMT -5
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Post by seak05 on Nov 11, 2017 13:11:19 GMT -5
IMO if "the voice just isn't there anymore" then he shouldn't have performed, plain and simple. Or just sing it and let people hear your real voice, whatever state it may be in. And if you can't sing because you might damage your vocal chords... there ya go. That's a valid reason as to why you couldn't perform. I don't want to see someone lip their own song on an awards show where they are later going to win the most prestigious award of the evening. Is Anderson East famous or something or is he literally just known cuz Miranda? I have no clue who he is, but the way I see it... he's a guy with an opinion, so I see no problem with him sharing it. Free speech is not exclusive to non-celebrities. Additionally, I think he actually had a valid point. Miranda also had an opinion and I don't think she should be required to keep it to herself either just because Garth happens to be one of her "co-workers" in the music business. Anderson is an up & coming Americana artist produced by Dave Cobb, he's opened a lot for Stapleton, and has a new album coming out in January. He's not my cup of tea for a variety of reasons, but is well thought of in industry. I'd have a much bigger problem with it if a) Garth hadn't fessed up right away and b) it was a concert. The CMA's are a TV show, he was advertised as appearing, and these things are highly produced, pulling out last minute leaves a not-easy to fill hole (you can't just plug in another singer last minute). Singing with a crappy voice sounds bad, and makes for a poor show. And obviously lip syncing is fake, as I said no good options, when you're dealing with a last minute problem. Not saying Garth made the right choice, the lip sync was a mistake, but Anderson & Miranda's posts were over the top and unnecessary IMO. They're entitled to express their opinions, and others are allowed to call them out & disagree.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 11, 2017 13:16:39 GMT -5
This is a very sensible response to it all. Then please explain how the Anderson and Lambert public commentary fall in line with Lambert's acceptance speech about community. How does being the only performer to lip during the CMAs fall in line with later winning the award for being the ultimate entertainer in the country genre? And I think context is important because in the comments they made they highlighted that it was his response to getting caught lip-synching that turned them off more than just the act of him doing it. He said that lipping was the best way to represent country music, which is probably just a dumb save face comment he came up with offhand, but it comes across like a slap in the face to everybody else. How can you play all these big sold out shows or w/e in a row and sing live, but you can't do one 3 minute TV performance? Just looks like another Garth big ego moment to me, and the radio stations and news outlets just kept stroking it by talking about "poor Garth" after the show like he'd accidentally chosen to lip-sync. Put a bad taste in my mouth, too. Anderson East is also the one who pulled the first punch and by nature of being her beau, Miranda Lambert just chimed in to stand with him, but it seems interesting that everyone on here just seems bothered with her comments. Like I know Anderson is basically not famous at all and most people only know of him now because he's dating her, but it's weird how the script seems to have flipped to Miranda instigating everything. I don't think she really needed to say anything, and I'd wager to guess she probably wouldn't have on her own and only did because Anderson said something first, but I also see no lies detected in anything either of them said honestly. And at the end of the day, it's really just a big deal over nothing. I'm sure there are those types of comments that other Americana artists outside the "mainstream" have made that were worse than Anderson's, because I know I've seen them take jabs at the "mainstream" scene before.
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Post by No Goodbye Coco, Hello Coco on Nov 11, 2017 13:16:43 GMT -5
Why are people so upset and defensive about Miranda Lambert and Anderson East sharing their opinions over Garth’s performance?
Miranda Lambert is one is one of the most authentic artists out there, and she is both supportive of her fellow artists & outspoken when she wants to be.
She is entitled to share her opinion just the same as anyone else, and her criticism doesn’t have to do with her being “jealous” or a Beyoncé fan, or anything else.
Frankly, I think Miranda is one of the only mainstream artists who WILL speak up like this and doesn’t care about the criticism she gets. I would much rather see artists stick with their convictions than to stay quiet just because Country artists like to seem like one big happy family that will never criticize someone in their genre.
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Post by seak05 on Nov 11, 2017 13:32:27 GMT -5
Why are people so upset and defensive about Miranda Lambert and Anderson East sharing their opinions over Garth’s performance? Miranda Lambert is one is one of the most authentic artists out there, and she is both supportive of her fellow artists & outspoken when she wants to be. She is entitled to share her opinion just the same as anyone else, and her criticism doesn’t have to do with her being “jealous” or a Beyoncé fan, or anything else. Frankly, I think Miranda is one of the only mainstream artists who WILL speak up like this and doesn’t care about the criticism she gets. I would much rather see artists stick with their convictions than to stay quiet just because Country artists like to seem like one big happy family that will never criticize someone in their genre. Oh God the authenticity Bull cr*p again. Miranda, like every other musician/entertainer authentically does what she needs to do to get where she wants to go. Different people have different goals. Miranda, Carrie, Keith, Garth, Isbell, Sturgill, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown...they're all equally "authentic". Brad P spoke out for the media before CMA's, Tim & Faith for sensible gun control, if you want to talk about not caring about criticism. Just say you agree with her, no need to get all she's holier than thou..
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Post by LBTrocks on Nov 11, 2017 13:37:40 GMT -5
IMO if "the voice just isn't there anymore" then he shouldn't have performed, plain and simple. Or just sing it and let people hear your real voice, whatever state it may be in. And if you can't sing because you might damage your vocal chords... there ya go. That's a valid reason as to why you couldn't perform. I don't want to see someone lip their own song on an awards show where they are later going to win the most prestigious award of the evening. Is Anderson East famous or something or is he literally just known cuz Miranda? I have no clue who he is, but the way I see it... he's a guy with an opinion, so I see no problem with him sharing it. Free speech is not exclusive to non-celebrities. Additionally, I think he actually had a valid point. Miranda also had an opinion and I don't think she should be required to keep it to herself either just because Garth happens to be one of her "co-workers" in the music business. Anderson is an up & coming Americana artist produced by Dave Cobb, he's opened a lot for Stapleton, and has a new album coming out in January. He's not my cup of tea for a variety of reasons, but is well thought of in industry. I'd have a much bigger problem with it if a) Garth hadn't fessed up right away and b) it was a concert. The CMA's are a TV show, he was advertised as appearing, and these things are highly produced, pulling out last minute leaves a not-easy to fill hole (you can't just plug in another singer last minute). Singing with a crappy voice sounds bad, and makes for a poor show. And obviously lip syncing is fake, as I said no good options, when you're dealing with a last minute problem. Not saying Garth made the right choice, the lip sync was a mistake, but Anderson & Miranda's posts were over the top and unnecessary IMO. They're entitled to express their opinions, and others are allowed to call them out & disagree. Garth doesn't get any points with me for "fessing up" because what else was he supposed to do? It was obvious he was lipping to anyone watching, because he totally messed up by not having the mic close to his face at the correct time lol. Also, I get there was no good solution to the situation, but I think overall people would have found it more authentic and respectable for him to have just sang as is. Obviously, if he's going to damage his voice then he shouldn't, but in that case I personally think of that as a medical issue that should automatically absolve him of any responsibility of performing, irrespective of how it messes up the flow of the show. I agree that Anderson and Miranda are entitled to express their opinions and that others can call them out and disagree. You thinking their posts were over the top and unnecessary is just as valid an opinion as me thinking the opposite. My whole point was that they are allowed to speak their minds if they wish, and I personally see nothing wrong with them doing so here.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 11, 2017 14:03:13 GMT -5
Why are people so upset and defensive about Miranda Lambert and Anderson East sharing their opinions over Garth’s performance? Miranda Lambert is one is one of the most authentic artists out there, and she is both supportive of her fellow artists & outspoken when she wants to be. She is entitled to share her opinion just the same as anyone else, and her criticism doesn’t have to do with her being “jealous” or a Beyoncé fan, or anything else. Frankly, I think Miranda is one of the only mainstream artists who WILL speak up like this and doesn’t care about the criticism she gets. I would much rather see artists stick with their convictions than to stay quiet just because Country artists like to seem like one big happy family that will never criticize someone in their genre. Oh God the authenticity Bull cr*p again. Miranda, like every other musician/entertainer authentically does what she needs to do to get where she wants to go. Different people have different goals. Miranda, Carrie, Keith, Garth, Isbell, Sturgill, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown...they're all equally "authentic". Brad P spoke out for the media before CMA's, Tim & Faith for sensible gun control, if you want to talk about not caring about criticism. Just say you agree with her, no need to get all she's holier than thou.. Calling Miranda “authentic” got this kind of response and yet Garth fans calling her disgusting and jealous didn’t. That’s... sad
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Post by No Goodbye Coco, Hello Coco on Nov 11, 2017 14:07:47 GMT -5
Why are people so upset and defensive about Miranda Lambert and Anderson East sharing their opinions over Garth’s performance? Miranda Lambert is one is one of the most authentic artists out there, and she is both supportive of her fellow artists & outspoken when she wants to be. She is entitled to share her opinion just the same as anyone else, and her criticism doesn’t have to do with her being “jealous” or a Beyoncé fan, or anything else. Frankly, I think Miranda is one of the only mainstream artists who WILL speak up like this and doesn’t care about the criticism she gets. I would much rather see artists stick with their convictions than to stay quiet just because Country artists like to seem like one big happy family that will never criticize someone in their genre. Oh God the authenticity Bull cr*p again. Miranda, like every other musician/entertainer authentically does what she needs to do to get where she wants to go. Different people have different goals. Miranda, Carrie, Keith, Garth, Isbell, Sturgill, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown...they're all equally "authentic". Brad P spoke out for the media before CMA's, Tim & Faith for sensible gun control, if you want to talk about not caring about criticism. Just say you agree with her, no need to get all she's holier than thou.. Thanks for proving my point that many Garth fans are wiling to attack any opinion they don’t agree with. Sorry, but this is the mainstream music industry; there are many artists who simply put on a facade of being authentic & are not. And how ironic that you called my defense “hollier than thou” while in the same post suggesting I shouldn’t express my opinion the way I want to. I didn’t agree with Garth lipping, yet I didn’t come in this thread & attack him or his fans for having different opinions.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 11, 2017 16:59:05 GMT -5
My take on Garth's Lipgate Incident is that he shouldn't have even been performing to begin with. His excuse for not singing is totally valid! If someone has 12 shows over the next 10 days, and wants to rest their voice to make sure they are totally healthy and ready to put on the best show for their fans, then I think choosing not to sing is a respectable and even commendable thing to do.
So don't accept the freaking CMA performance slot... He and his team KNEW these shows were coming. They may not have known the exact quantity of upcoming shows when they agreed to do the CMAs, because of Garth's current strategy of staying in one city for several days and announcing as many shows as there is demand for once the tickets go on sale. Still, he knew he was heading to another tour stop right after the CMAs, and he knew that it would be his Last North American Tour Stop for this tour, so he knew that there would be a large handful of shows once they got there.
His tour schedule is extremely rigorous, so it is totally reasonable, and probably even necessary, for him to take it easy on his voice between stops. He knows how rigorous the tour is, so nothing in the world could convince me that he didn't have lip syncing as a possible option in the back of his mind from the very beginning. It is probably a case where he was hoping to sing, but had lip syncing ready to go as a viable option depending on the circumstances.
But the thing is, if you KNOW that your tour is so rigorous that there is even a possibility that you might not feel up to performing, then you should choose to decline the performance slot... That performance slot could have gone to any one out of dozens of deserving artists! Performance slots at awards shows are a limited and valuable commodity, and Garth choosing to occupy a slot when he knew he might not even be able to perform is a major slap in the face to an artist like Luke Combs who could have really used that platform to help boost his profile and his career. Garth did not need that boost. As he said, he has 12 mostly-sold-out shows over 10 days right after the CMAs!
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Post by someguy on Nov 11, 2017 17:11:07 GMT -5
My take on Garth's Lipgate Incident is that he shouldn't have even been performing to begin with. His excuse for not singing is totally valid! If someone has 12 shows over the next 10 days, and wants to rest their voice to make sure they are totally healthy and ready to put on the best show for their fans, then I think choosing not to sing is a respectable and even commendable thing to do. So don't accept the freaking CMA performance slot... He and his team KNEW these shows were coming. They may not have known the exact quantity of upcoming shows when they agreed to do the CMAs, because of Garth's current strategy of staying in one city for several days and announcing as many shows as there is demand for once the tickets go on sale. Still, he knew he was heading to another tour stop right after the CMAs, and he knew that it would be his Last North American Tour Stop for this tour, so he knew that there would be a large handful of shows once they got there. His tour schedule is extremely rigorous, so it is totally reasonable, and probably even necessary, for him to take it easy on his voice between stops. He knows how rigorous the tour is, so nothing in the world could convince me that he didn't have lip syncing as a possible option in the back of his mind from the very beginning. It is probably a case where he was hoping to sing, but had lip syncing ready to go as a viable option depending on the circumstances. But the thing is, if you KNOW that your tour is so rigorous that there is even a possibility that you might not feel up to performing, then you should choose to decline the performance slot... That performance slot could have gone to any one out of dozens of deserving artists! Performance slots at awards shows are a limited and valuable commodity, and Garth choosing to occupy a slot when he knew he might not even be able to perform is a major slap in the face to an artist like Luke Combs who could have really used that platform to help boost his profile and his career. Garth did not need that boost. As he said, he has 12 mostly-sold-out shows over 10 days right after the CMAs! My understanding is that after all of that, he wasn't feeling well. Add that in, and it's all good.
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 11, 2017 18:26:16 GMT -5
My take on Garth's Lipgate Incident is that he shouldn't have even been performing to begin with. His excuse for not singing is totally valid! If someone has 12 shows over the next 10 days, and wants to rest their voice to make sure they are totally healthy and ready to put on the best show for their fans, then I think choosing not to sing is a respectable and even commendable thing to do. So don't accept the freaking CMA performance slot... He and his team KNEW these shows were coming. They may not have known the exact quantity of upcoming shows when they agreed to do the CMAs, because of Garth's current strategy of staying in one city for several days and announcing as many shows as there is demand for once the tickets go on sale. Still, he knew he was heading to another tour stop right after the CMAs, and he knew that it would be his Last North American Tour Stop for this tour, so he knew that there would be a large handful of shows once they got there. His tour schedule is extremely rigorous, so it is totally reasonable, and probably even necessary, for him to take it easy on his voice between stops. He knows how rigorous the tour is, so nothing in the world could convince me that he didn't have lip syncing as a possible option in the back of his mind from the very beginning. It is probably a case where he was hoping to sing, but had lip syncing ready to go as a viable option depending on the circumstances. But the thing is, if you KNOW that your tour is so rigorous that there is even a possibility that you might not feel up to performing, then you should choose to decline the performance slot... That performance slot could have gone to any one out of dozens of deserving artists! Performance slots at awards shows are a limited and valuable commodity, and Garth choosing to occupy a slot when he knew he might not even be able to perform is a major slap in the face to an artist like Luke Combs who could have really used that platform to help boost his profile and his career. Garth did not need that boost. As he said, he has 12 mostly-sold-out shows over 10 days right after the CMAs! My understanding is that after all of that, he wasn't feeling well. Add that in, and it's all good. I do agree somebody else could've taken his spot. but honestly how important do u think award shows performances r to these artists?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 18:29:51 GMT -5
Team Miranda and Anderson here. Lip-syncing is a huge pet peeve of mine, so good on them for calling it out.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 11, 2017 18:31:22 GMT -5
I just don't understand how one three minute song on TV was going to blow his voice out but 12 sold out shows where he'll be performing 20+ songs for several hours isn't? That logic does not add up for me. Like if his excuse for not performing live on the CMAs was legitimately because he needed the vocal rest, then I can't imagine how he plans to make it through all those tour stops singing live. ![:dead:](http://ruadventures.com/forum/Smileys/animated/smiley_resurrect_grave.gif)
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Post by hank0629 on Nov 11, 2017 21:47:56 GMT -5
I just wonder why Beyonce can lip-sync but Garth can't? Don't have double standards, OK?
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Post by Kat5Kind on Nov 11, 2017 21:49:18 GMT -5
My understanding is that after all of that, he wasn't feeling well. Add that in, and it's all good. I do agree somebody else could've taken his spot. but honestly how important do u think award shows performances r to these artists? Streaming and sales increases significantly after they perform on award shows, not to mention increased radio play. They're pretty significant.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Nov 11, 2017 21:50:50 GMT -5
I just wonder why Beyonce can lip-sync but Garth can't? Don't have double standards, OK? She doesn't, and I'm pretty sure she's just supporting Anderson. He was an EOTY nominee (and winner) at a country award show and he chose to lip sync. That's what they're pissed about.
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Post by hank0629 on Nov 11, 2017 22:00:44 GMT -5
I just wonder why Beyonce can lip-sync but Garth can't? Don't have double standards, OK? She doesn't, and I'm pretty sure she's just supporting Anderson. He was an EOTY nominee (and winner) at a country award show and he chose to lip sync. That's what they're pissed about. Then when Beyonce lip-synced during the Presidential Inauguration, why she said, “I don’t think it matters." To further drive her point home, she added: "It’s Beyonce. She can do whatever the hell she wants!” There's no double standards? You must be kidding me. By the way, whether Garth lip-synced or not, CMA already decided to let him win EOTY before his performance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 6:31:14 GMT -5
She doesn't, and I'm pretty sure she's just supporting Anderson. He was an EOTY nominee (and winner) at a country award show and he chose to lip sync. That's what they're pissed about. Then when Beyonce lip-synced during the Presidential Inauguration, why she said, “I don’t think it matters." To further drive her point home, she added: "It’s Beyonce. She can do whatever the hell she wants!” There's no double standards? You must be kidding me. By the way, whether Garth lip-synced or not, CMA already decided to let him win EOTY before his performance. It's possible that in that time frame in between Beyoncé lip synching and Garth Brooks lip synching that Miranda Lambert's view on lip synching has changed. Have you consider that, as that's a possibility that her view on lip synching has changed overtime.
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Post by seak05 on Nov 12, 2017 7:52:51 GMT -5
Oh God the authenticity Bull cr*p again. Miranda, like every other musician/entertainer authentically does what she needs to do to get where she wants to go. Different people have different goals. Miranda, Carrie, Keith, Garth, Isbell, Sturgill, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown...they're all equally "authentic". Brad P spoke out for the media before CMA's, Tim & Faith for sensible gun control, if you want to talk about not caring about criticism. Just say you agree with her, no need to get all she's holier than thou.. Thanks for proving my point that many Garth fans are wiling to attack any opinion they don’t agree with. Sorry, but this is the mainstream music industry; there are many artists who simply put on a facade of being authentic & are not. And how ironic that you called my defense “hollier than thou” while in the same post suggesting I shouldn’t express my opinion the way I want to. I didn’t agree with Garth lipping, yet I didn’t come in this thread & attack him or his fans for having different opinions. a) I'm not a Garth fan b) we've had the authenticity debate before on pulse c) in your defense of Miranda (whose music I actually like better than Garth's) you decided to drag everyone else in country music - that's what I had a problem with
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Post by seak05 on Nov 12, 2017 8:03:10 GMT -5
Oh God the authenticity Bull cr*p again. Miranda, like every other musician/entertainer authentically does what she needs to do to get where she wants to go. Different people have different goals. Miranda, Carrie, Keith, Garth, Isbell, Sturgill, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown...they're all equally "authentic". Brad P spoke out for the media before CMA's, Tim & Faith for sensible gun control, if you want to talk about not caring about criticism. Just say you agree with her, no need to get all she's holier than thou.. Calling Miranda “authentic” got this kind of response and yet Garth fans calling her disgusting and jealous didn’t. That’s... sad (sorry for double post on my phone) Miranda dragged herself into this cesspool. People questioning her motives is fair, even if I think the jealous attack is ridiculous. Dragging everyone else into this & leveling accusations at the seems unfair & also inaccurate. Plus Miranda has about 1000 defenders of on here who could easily point out the ridiculousness of the jealousy charge by listing her legion of accomplishments.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 9:30:19 GMT -5
I can't get behind the theory that him lipping has any bearing on him winning EOTY that evening. What were they supposed to do, give come out and say "well we were gonna give it to Garth but he can't even perform live so..."
On the other hand, I get it that you could say it's just more proof that maybe he wasn't the best candidate to win the award. I personally think it's a bit strange he is still winning as really the main force behind it is his touring strength and in my opinion a whole lot more should go into the award than that. But that's beside the point. Whether or not he sang live wasn't going to determine whether or not he won the award. I get the irritation behind it, I just don't see the correlation between it in the sense of: "can you BELIEVE Garth won EOTY when he can't even sing live?" The two have nothing to do with each other. I doubt one of the official qualifications of winning EOTY is "sings live."
And I'm not saying Anderson and Miranda even were thinking about the award. They were probably just legitimately frustrated that he didn't sing live. There must have been other options for Garth. Don't perform. Perform a less strenuous song. Do a better job faking?
Whatever. I personally noticed almost instantly and I was just like "not even singing!" And that was the end of it. There are A LOT bigger posers in the genre than Garth (obviously) and much bigger fish to fry as to what is wrong with country music and I don't think it's as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be. My point was I found it strange that Anderson was calling it out for no reason and was so "offended" by it. Anderson is really great live but he isn't exactly a traditionalist by any means, so I don't get the notion of defending country music and all it stands for, as his message implied.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 12, 2017 9:44:16 GMT -5
On the other hand, I get it that you could say it's just more proof that maybe he wasn't the best candidate to win the award. I personally think it's a bit strange he is still winning as really the main force behind it is his touring strength and in my opinion a whole lot more should go into the award than that. But that's beside the point. Whether or not he sang live wasn't going to determine whether or not he won the award. I get the irritation behind it, I just don't see the correlation between it in the sense of: "can you BELIEVE Garth won EOTY when he can't even sing live?" The two have nothing to do with each other. I doubt one of the official qualifications of winning EOTY is "sings live." Yeah, all of this. At the end of the day, right or wrong, EOTY has become 'the touring award.' And Garth's tour is massive, so he wins. Him lip synching one song at an awards show is separate from his tour. This, too. So many people in music lip synch at various times for various reasons. Garth isn't known for doing it on a consistent basis, so I don't understand why this has become 'a thing.' Anderson and Lambert certainly have a right to their opinion and have the right to share it, but more so I wonder why they did in this instance. What purpose did it serve?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 10:55:06 GMT -5
#GiveItBackGarth
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