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Post by Normi on Aug 27, 2017 7:27:43 GMT -5
This thread about Taylor's new single already touched on: Politics, 'Pillowtalk', Beyoncé, 'Despacito', 'Shake It Off' etc. Wow. And it's only been 2 days.
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Post by theflying on Aug 27, 2017 7:27:50 GMT -5
Look what you made me do
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 7:31:29 GMT -5
Look what Taylor can do, she can turn a whole thread into a mess just like that. What could we be missing to make this thread even messier than it already is?
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 27, 2017 7:35:22 GMT -5
This thread about Taylor's new single already touched on: Politics, 'Pillowtalk', Beyoncé, 'Despacito', 'Shake It Off' etc. Wow. And it's only been 2 days. Just Pulse equivalent what media is doing elsewhere atm, from blaming her becoming goth to being a nazi |
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Post by Oprah on Aug 27, 2017 7:51:29 GMT -5
Lord, let's just wait a few weeks and see if this is plummeting or not before we do all this.
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Post by fullonrainstorm on Aug 27, 2017 8:04:35 GMT -5
Taylor was dragged hard for defending herself against Nicki's petty tweets while Nicki is the one with the Hitler-glorifying video on YouTube. She should have never apologized to that tactless and opportunistic rodent because she said nothing wrong. Taylor has the right to not speak out about politics unless she wants to because she's under no obligation to do so. (Politicians shouldn't focus their campaigns on celebrities so much anyway.) She used social media to support women's march and people were still angry because she didn't march herself. She donated $250k to Kesha and people still weren't happy. She's criticized both when she uses her voice and when she doesn't. It's a lose-lose situation every time but the "backlash" has done nothing to slow her down (just look at the disgusting things people are currently writing about her.) I'm not a Nicki Minaj fan in the least but dude Nicki was dragged for her s**t equally and those two incidents have nothing to do with each other. You would never call these mediocre white women rodents who practice culture appropriation and casual racism so don't come at Nicki like that. Also if you donate money to Kesha did we need her subsequent press release to announce said donation? Talk about opportunistic and tactless. First Beyonce now Nicki , whose the next black woman you want to drag through the mud to defend Taylor next? Just to be fair, it was Kesha's team/family who announced Taylor's donation. |
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 8:25:38 GMT -5
Yeah were it not for AATB Shake it Off would have logged like 12 weeks at #1. So, according to allow that, just barely a hit. Funny how you bring me up personally a full page later but you still haven't composed a logical response. Others have already said that you've missed the point of what I said. Keep trying (but really, don't). (PS "would have logged" Is just your own speculation) |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 27, 2017 8:38:57 GMT -5
— 22 TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 4193 0 4193 30.600 +1335 spins +1335 bullet +9.137 audience  Slayage. Damn. |
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 27, 2017 8:40:29 GMT -5
Yeah were it not for AATB Shake it Off would have logged like 12 weeks at #1. So, according to allow that, just barely a hit. Doesn't matter,Shake it Off was a #1 hit for 4 weeks,and to use your logic if Despacito wasn't #1 for 16 weeks then Wild thoughts would have been a 10 week #1. |
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Aug 27, 2017 8:47:00 GMT -5
"I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me"
I see what you did there Taylor.... double negative. You know nothing is coincidence w TS.
"I trust everybody
And nobody trusts me"
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 27, 2017 9:26:36 GMT -5
So I'm liking this despite the weak chorus. I'm having trouble fully buying into this persona from her and I'm hoping the video helps with that because I could love it if I can get past that.
Still happy enough with it and it sounds great in the car!
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Post by Ice Cream 15 (Broccoli 2018) on Aug 27, 2017 9:29:11 GMT -5
I hope its run on pop isn't like other songs that had +1000 gains like 24k Magic and Green Light (non #1s) . I like this song and I want it to get to number 1. This song has as much hate as Bad Blood, which had #1 for 5 weeks. So I want this song to at least match that success. It's a great jam.
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Post by Normi on Aug 27, 2017 9:58:59 GMT -5
I'm now obsessed with this
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 10:05:17 GMT -5
This is easily my favourite lead single from her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 10:17:15 GMT -5
Taylor is genius. This song will be massive, and just another example of Taylor reshaping the pop landscape once again, and proving what a force she really is in the industry. She will probably have the best selling single and album of the year, imo.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 27, 2017 10:39:11 GMT -5
Taylor is genius. This song will be massive, and just another example of Taylor reshaping the pop landscape once again, and proving what a force she really is in the industry. She will probably have the best selling single and album of the year, imo. Once again? What did she do before? |
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 10:43:26 GMT -5
#1 Look What You Made Me Do (1.0000)
#2 Despacito [Remix] $ (0.1960) {0.2468}
#21 Despacito $ (0.0562)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 10:46:12 GMT -5
Taylor is genius. This song will be massive, and just another example of Taylor reshaping the pop landscape once again, and proving what a force she really is in the industry. She will probably have the best selling single and album of the year, imo. bitch it's a Peaches sample built on a song structure popularized by Ariana Grande. What did she reshape? Where? When???? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 10:47:00 GMT -5
Taylor is genius. This song will be massive, and just another example of Taylor reshaping the pop landscape once again, and proving what a force she really is in the industry. She will probably have the best selling single and album of the year, imo. Once again? What did she do before? Imo, with 1989 Taylor proved that an artist could still sell albums. She also stood up to the changing face of the music industry with the whole Spotify situation. I'm not even a fan of Taylor and it's pretty dang obvious what a force she is, and has been, and her undeniable influence and authority in the industry. |
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Post by jughead on Aug 27, 2017 10:47:01 GMT -5
Taylor is genius. This song will be massive, and just another example of Taylor reshaping the pop landscape once again, and proving what a force she really is in the industry. She will probably have the best selling single and album of the year, imo. Once again? What did she do before? Be a consistent force in the music industry? |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 27, 2017 10:48:57 GMT -5
Once again? What did she do before? Be a consistent force in the music industry? And that in what way proves that she's reshaped the pop landscape? |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 27, 2017 10:57:27 GMT -5
Once again? What did she do before? Imo, with 1989 Taylor proved that an artist could still sell albums. She also stood up to the changing face of the music industry with the whole Spotify situation. I'm not even a fan of Taylor and it's pretty dang obvious what a force she is, and has been, and her undeniable influence and authority in the industry. Being a force has nothing to do with shaping anything tho. The 1989 singles were as safe and inoffensive as anything. She has power yes, no one is denying that. But she isn't changing the sound of radio, lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 11:04:39 GMT -5
Imo, with 1989 Taylor proved that an artist could still sell albums. She also stood up to the changing face of the music industry with the whole Spotify situation. I'm not even a fan of Taylor and it's pretty dang obvious what a force she is, and has been, and her undeniable influence and authority in the industry. Being a force has nothing to do with shaping anything tho. The 1989 singles were as safe and inoffensive as anything. She has power yes, no one is denying that. But she isn't changing the sound of radio, lol. Just an opinion, Bro. As a casual listener of radio, and again, NOT a fan of Taylor, I haven't seen many female pop stars reaching the pinnacle of male dominated radio too frequently...and if this song does, and it likely will, I'd argue that's changing the face and music a bit, no? |
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 11:11:21 GMT -5
Being a force has nothing to do with shaping anything tho. The 1989 singles were as safe and inoffensive as anything. She has power yes, no one is denying that. But she isn't changing the sound of radio, lol. Just an opinion, Bro. As a casual listener of radio, and again, NOT a fan of Taylor, I haven't seen many female pop stars reaching the pinnacle of male dominated radio too frequently...and if this song does, and it likely will, I'd argue that's changing the face and music a bit, no? There's been male domination for literally less than a year and Swifites are already acting like Taylor is the first woman to ever have a hit. Read the first few pages of this thread immediately following the song's release. The long list of ladies this song reminds people of have paved the way and defined the pop radio sound that this song conforms to. She's a follower, not an innovator... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 11:18:43 GMT -5
Just an opinion, Bro. As a casual listener of radio, and again, NOT a fan of Taylor, I haven't seen many female pop stars reaching the pinnacle of male dominated radio too frequently...and if this song does, and it likely will, I'd argue that's changing the face and music a bit, no? There's been male domination for literally less than a year and Swifites are already acting like Taylor is the first woman to ever have a hit. Read the first few pages of this thread following he song's release. The long list of ladies this song reminds people of paved the way and defined the pop radio sound that this song is drawing from. She's a follower, not an innovator... Wait a minute...your insecurities are showing, girls. I haven't mentioned any other artist or tried to take away from anyone. Certainly Taylor's road has been paved by others, that's how it works, silly...lol All I was stating is that she is one of the biggest forces in music right now, is driving a huge share of the market, and has a lot of influence in re: to radio and sales. All of your Queens are still worthy! |
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 27, 2017 11:22:39 GMT -5
There's been male domination for literally less than a year and Swifites are already acting like Taylor is the first woman to ever have a hit. Read the first few pages of this thread following he song's release. The long list of ladies this song reminds people of paved the way and defined the pop radio sound that this song is drawing from. She's a follower, not an innovator... Wait a minute...your insecurities are showing, girls. I haven't mentioned any other artist or tried to take away from anyone. Certainly Taylor's road has been paved by others, that's how it works, silly...lol All I was stating is that she is one of the biggest forces in music right now, is driving a huge share of the market, and has a lot of influence in re: to radio and sales. All of your Queens are still worthy! Actually you said she reshaped the pop landscape, which is different from what you're saying now. Had you said what you meant, this little side discussion wouldn't exist. There was quite a lively debate about this song between friends yesterday. Mission accomplished, Taylor. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 27, 2017 11:32:44 GMT -5
Adele being a powerhouse in the industry (selling 2x Taylor) doesn't take away anything from Taylor's impact or force in the industry. I fail to name another artist in the last twenty years who has sold over four million copies with their first five respective releases and debut with over a million in sales three seperate times. No one has shown the steady consisteny Taylor has as of late, not even the almighty Adele. She has certainly made a colossal impact. Even before Adele she was lauded for bringing life back to the industry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 11:37:07 GMT -5
Wait a minute...your insecurities are showing, girls. I haven't mentioned any other artist or tried to take away from anyone. Certainly Taylor's road has been paved by others, that's how it works, silly...lol All I was stating is that she is one of the biggest forces in music right now, is driving a huge share of the market, and has a lot of influence in re: to radio and sales. All of your Queens are still worthy! I'm not trying to be shady or anything, but do you know what the word influence means? Taylor literally changed her sound FOR pop radio while most of her peers (e.g. Kesha, Gaga, Miley, Lorde) are trying new things. I'd argue that Taylor successfully transitioning from a number 1 country artist to one of the biggest pop stars in the world is a little more impressive reinvention than some "past their commercial prime" pop stars who mix up their sound a little bit to generate more interest in their past peak careers. I do, however, think it worked beautifully for Kesha. The rest you mentioned, fell flat. |
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 11:45:16 GMT -5
Adele being a powerhouse in the industry (selling 2x Taylor) doesn't take away anything from Taylor's impact or force in the industry. I fail to name another artist in the last twenty years who has sold over four million copies with their first five respective releases and debut with over a million in sales three seperate times. No one has shown the steady consisteny Taylor has as of late, not even the almighty Adele. She has certainly made a colossal impact. Even before Adele she was lauded for bringing life back to the industry. You're deflecting from the points being made. No one said Taylor isn't a force in the industry. Of course she is. But she hasn't innovated the sound of popular music either. In fact, I'd argue that a big reason why she HAS sold albums so consistently is because she utilizes ready-made formulas and makes music that's extra safe. Reshaping the music landscape and being a force in the industry are not mutually exclusive. |
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Post by tinawina on Aug 27, 2017 11:46:31 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be shady or anything, but do you know what the word influence means? Taylor literally changed her sound FOR pop radio while most of her peers (e.g. Kesha, Gaga, Miley, Lorde) are trying new things. I'd argue that Taylor successfully transitioning from a number 1 country artist to one of the biggest pop stars in the world is a little more impressive reinvention than some "past their commercial prime" pop stars who mix up their sound a little bit to generate more interest in their past peak careers. I do, however, think it worked beautifully for Kesha. The rest you mentioned, fell flat. She went from country, to "country"-pop, and then finally dropped the pretense of being country and went full on pop. It's been a series of subtle shifts but it's not revolutionary.. She's very successful and good for her, but she's not an innovator musically. |
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