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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 27, 2017 20:06:24 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 20:07:01 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of references? I think I saw Iggy, Beyoncé, Gaga and Britney. I also noticed one of the Taylors in the bridge had a 13 on her hand Miley Cyrus with the birdcage reminds of the video for Can't Be Tamed. Iggy with the airplane, Beyonce with her wearing black with her troupe for the choreography, Avril kind of reminds me of her wearing the hoodie and robbing a bank. Don't forget all of Taylor's own characters from other videos, Blank Space, Bad Blood, YBWM, Shake It Off, and Mean.
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 20:07:16 GMT -5
Stop right there. I drew a parallel between a criticism leveled at Hillary and a criticism leveled (JUST NOW), at Taylor Swift, who may not have too much in common, but ARE extraordinarily successful women who people are just oh so willing to think their every move is calculated and fake. The difference is Hillary's opponents come up empty handed when asked why she's calculating. With Taylor there's plenty of examples.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 27, 2017 20:07:24 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing how the term "calculated" really is a substitute for "robot who is only capable of operating on a level that is completely removed from all genuine emotion". And it's typically never labeled at men. I'm reminded of how "calculated" Hillary Clinton was often accused of being, when she was a very warm, self deprecating person in real life.
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Post by born on Aug 27, 2017 20:08:26 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo. I'm dead at that "effortlessly".
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Post by Max_X5 on Aug 27, 2017 20:08:55 GMT -5
Loved the video, but I don't really understand what she's going for. With "Blank Space," both the song and the video were obviously sarcastic. But with this, while aspects of the video are (and wonderfully so), the song itself feels significantly less so, so her motives still remain quite unclear to me. It feels a bit like she's trying to have it both ways - say "screw it" to everyone else, but at the same time "I'm in on the joke too" - but those angles just don't mesh well at all, especially with a song as vengeful as this.
One interview could totally clear everything up, and I still love the era so far, but I'm just a little confused as to what she's trying to say.
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Post by theflying on Aug 27, 2017 20:09:04 GMT -5
I think it's more about how you've made it so that she can never win.
She's not self aware -- she's fake and just calculating what self aware looks like. Repeat ad nauseum for everything she does.
Look, plenty of people think it, so I'm not here screaming YOU ARE SEXIST. But it's not a thing thrown at men, and it really does seem to guarantee that nothing she ever does is genuine, does it?
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 20:09:42 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo. I mean I don't know if effortless is the right word. Clearly the budget involved implies quite a lot of it. (Which is fine - before the stans come at me).
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Post by icefire9 on Aug 27, 2017 20:09:52 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo. I'm dead at that "effortlessly". Yeah, obviously a lot of effort went into this video. Which is kind of the point. A ton of work went into this video and it shows.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Aug 27, 2017 20:10:03 GMT -5
Loved the video, but I don't really understand what she's going for. With "Blank Space," both the song and the video were obviously sarcastic. But with this, while aspects of the video are (and wonderfully so), the song itself feels significantly less so, so her motives still remain quite unclear to me. It feels a bit like she's trying to have it both ways - say "screw it" to everyone else, but at the same time "I'm in on the joke too" - but those angles just don't mesh well at all, especially with a song as vengeful as this. One interview could totally clear everything up, and I still love the era so far, but I'm just a little confused as to what she's trying to say. This. Can't help but be impressed by the video but I'm a bit confused...
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 27, 2017 20:10:24 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo. I'm dead at that "effortlessly". I am a fan of artists who struggle to even release videos sometimes so my barometer may be off
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Aug 27, 2017 20:11:05 GMT -5
The video is gonna keep this song blazing them charts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:11:22 GMT -5
Yas, huney. The video is everything. Love.
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2017 20:11:26 GMT -5
Great video!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 27, 2017 20:12:16 GMT -5
Taylor, effortlessly releasing the pop video of the year lmaoooo. I mean I don't know if effortless is the right word. Clearly the budget involved implies quite a lot of it. (Which is fine - before the stans come at me). My life would be easier as a pop fan if budget=video of the year lol
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Post by Kinney on Aug 27, 2017 20:12:31 GMT -5
Video of the year, absolutely no question about it.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 20:12:44 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of references? I think I saw Iggy, Beyoncé, Gaga and Britney. I also noticed one of the Taylors in the bridge had a 13 on her hand Miley Cyrus with the birdcage reminds of the video for Can't Be Tamed. Iggy with the airplane, Beyonce with her wearing black with her troupe for the choreography, Avril kind of reminds me of her wearing the hoodie and robbing a bank. Don't forget all of Taylor's own characters from other videos, Blank Space, Bad Blood, YBWM, Shake It Off, and Mean. The cage reminded me of Circus and the bank scene of 7/11, for some reason (I haven't really seen either video though)
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 27, 2017 20:14:44 GMT -5
She DID THAT. Fantastic video.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:16:21 GMT -5
Cage reminded me of both these
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Aug 27, 2017 20:20:14 GMT -5
It was a good video, ngl. Shit, she clearly has the budget, plus one of the greatest video directors with her. Calculated!!😉
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Post by NeRD on Aug 27, 2017 20:20:39 GMT -5
Well, that video was certainly a statement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:22:19 GMT -5
That video was incredible. Taylor is here to slay.
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Post by Mazo on Aug 27, 2017 20:23:27 GMT -5
I don't understand how people dislike the song. The song is great and really different for her. I really like the cheeky chorus, "Ooh look what you made me do, look what you made me do, look at what you just me do." I like it.
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Post by Revelry on Aug 27, 2017 20:23:33 GMT -5
Loved the video, but I don't really understand what she's going for. With "Blank Space," both the song and the video were obviously sarcastic. But with this, while aspects of the video are (and wonderfully so), the song itself feels significantly less so, so her motives still remain quite unclear to me. It feels a bit like she's trying to have it both ways - say "screw it" to everyone else, but at the same time "I'm in on the joke too" - but those angles just don't mesh well at all, especially with a song as vengeful as this.One interview could totally clear everything up, and I still love the era so far, but I'm just a little confused as to what she's trying to say. Agree with all of this! Great video but I can't tell if she's really taking credit for her actions or trying to point out how ridiculous all these "characterizations" are. Definitely feels like she's trying to have it both ways.
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Post by Mazo on Aug 27, 2017 20:24:42 GMT -5
Did she shade Adele with the tea cup & pot? Giving me a little Hello MV.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:26:39 GMT -5
Cage reminded me of both these Visionary. Icon. Legend. Artist. Activist. We owe a debt to this woman.
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Post by theflying on Aug 27, 2017 20:29:01 GMT -5
Def agree with the have it both ways
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Post by theflying on Aug 27, 2017 20:31:04 GMT -5
Sorry to mention the comparisons one more time, but I just remembered: "calculated" was ALSO the criticism people liked to throw at Meryl Streep at a certain point in her career.
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Post by graham on Aug 27, 2017 20:31:26 GMT -5
Great video! The like to dislike ratio is much better than the lyrics video.
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Post by allow that on Aug 27, 2017 20:32:46 GMT -5
Twitter is going in on her for mocking Kim K's robbery. I missed about a minute of the video but what did she do re: Kim? Was she really tied up with jewels at one point?
I'm no Kim fan but don't mimic an event where she was held at gunpoint with her life at stake. Below the belt!
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