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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 20:33:52 GMT -5
Twitter is going in on her for mocking Kim K's robbery. I missed about a minute of the video but what did she do re: Kim? Was she really tied up with jewels at one point? I'm no Kim fan but don't mimic an event where she was held at gunpoint with her life at stake. Below the belt! She was in a bath tub full of jewels during the crime lyric
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 20:35:30 GMT -5
Twitter is going in on her for mocking Kim K's robbery. I missed about a minute of the video but what did she do re: Kim? Was she really tied up with jewels at one point? I'm no Kim fan but don't mimic an event where she was held at gunpoint with her life at stake. Below the belt! I don't think that was what that part of the video was going for.
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Post by jughead on Aug 27, 2017 20:35:53 GMT -5
Twitter is going in on her for mocking Kim K's robbery. I missed about a minute of the video but what did she do re: Kim? Was she really tied up with jewels at one point? I'm no Kim fan but don't mimic an event where she was held at gunpoint with her life at stake. Below the belt! Twitter reaching as always.
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Post by Kinney on Aug 27, 2017 20:37:26 GMT -5
Did she shade Adele with the tea cup & pot? Giving me a little Hello MV. I think it's just her "spilling tea" or whatever, nothing to do with Adele.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 20:38:41 GMT -5
Did she shade Adele with the tea cup & pot? Giving me a little Hello MV. I think it's just her "spilling tea" or whatever, nothing to do with Adele. But if she did, oh boy, we'd have a major pop war going on, as it the whole Katy v. Taylor thing wasn't bad enough.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 27, 2017 20:40:22 GMT -5
Not sure I buy into the Kim K/robbery allusion, and I definitely don't think there's any sort of Adele reference in there. Literally who would Adele ever have beef with, lol
I think her addressing all of the things that've been thrown at her throughout her career at the end of the video was clever and showed people that she absolutely sees what everyone says. I don't necessarily think it's self-awareness, but it certainly demonstrates that she's aware of general global opinions of her. Solid reminder that musicians are still people who can leave the bubble we all sometimes think they're perpetually trapped inside.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 27, 2017 20:40:23 GMT -5
What. A. Masterpiece. Video.
Love it so much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:41:57 GMT -5
lol she definitely did not mock Kim K's robbery. That is a reach if I've ever heard one.
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Post by Kinney on Aug 27, 2017 20:42:22 GMT -5
The bathtub scene (a bathtub full of jewels is one of the most used imagery ever, I can post a bunch of female celebrities in the same pose if y'all want) has a single dollar bill.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 20:43:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it is just an unfortunate coincidence(?), like November 10th. I just can't imagine Taylor being that heartless, or anyone for that matter
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 27, 2017 20:44:32 GMT -5
Didn't love the video, feels much like the song for me. Good but missing that one thing to make me love it. Maybe it'll grow on me more but I will be jamming to it for a while either way.
(And with that I'm out on this thread for a while, I can't take the hysterics from both sides. I'll be back when things calm a bit...)
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 20:45:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it is just an unfortunate coincidence(?), like November 10th. I just can't imagine Taylor being that heartless, or anyone for that matter I can imagine Kayne saying "How could you be so heartless"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:47:14 GMT -5
Lol the world just wants to try dragging Taylor Ain't gonna ever happen though, T Swift is unstoppable especially once she pulls all the right cards.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 27, 2017 20:49:18 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of references? I think I saw Iggy, Beyoncé, Gaga and Britney. I also noticed one of the Taylors in the bridge had a 13 on her hand Britney reference? I didnt notice. Can someone explain? Thx
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 20:50:22 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of references? I think I saw Iggy, Beyoncé, Gaga and Britney. I also noticed one of the Taylors in the bridge had a 13 on her hand Britney reference? I didnt notice. Can someone explain? Thx Some people think the birdcage is a reference to Circus, I personally think it reminds me of Miley's 2010 song Can't Be Tamed.
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Post by cjay on Aug 27, 2017 20:51:03 GMT -5
Bitch might as well had named this album--Revenge! Lol. Still not a fan of the song, but I love the video! She kinda skated that 8 count. I wasn't expecting that. Hopefully she can do so in her live performances, too!
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 20:51:10 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of references? I think I saw Iggy, Beyoncé, Gaga and Britney. I also noticed one of the Taylors in the bridge had a 13 on her hand Britney reference? I didnt notice. Can someone explain? Thx The cage scene. The way she looked reminded me of the Circus video but I just looked back at that video and.. I was wrong lol
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Post by Kinney on Aug 27, 2017 20:51:28 GMT -5
Just saw this on another forum, there are 8 queer dancers wearing a "I <3 TS" shirts, and she has 8 exes. Poking fun at all the rumors of her being a beard.
Good lord, this video is amazing.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 27, 2017 20:54:39 GMT -5
Taylor is coming for all the haters.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 27, 2017 20:56:10 GMT -5
Not a fan of the song before, but after the video, im obsessed now.
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Post by Revelry on Aug 27, 2017 20:59:52 GMT -5
I immediately thought of this with the bathtub scene lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 21:00:51 GMT -5
Yeah this video is basically the antithesis of 'Shake It Off', which was a worse song and video. Something about this new bad attitude actually makes me like her...? A lot?
And yeah, it's a Joseph Kahn video. He very often has callbacks to 'Toxic,' or Britney herself, in his videos.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 27, 2017 21:02:24 GMT -5
Did she ever actually have anything against Beyonce that I just completely missed? Because all of these allusions have me confused. Unless they really aren't allusions and are just very, very, very visually similar.
ETA: Same with Britney.
ETA again: Or is this video like...an homage to pop stars? I'M LOST. Still a good video.
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Post by irice22 on Aug 27, 2017 21:06:00 GMT -5
Love love loved everything about that video.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 21:09:27 GMT -5
Did she ever actually have anything against Beyonce that I just completely missed? Because all of these allusions have me confused. Unless they really aren't allusions and are just very, very, very visually similar. ETA: Same with Britney. Wait, what about the video is being tied back to Beyoncé? I didn't catch anything about Britney either, I was just commenting that Kahn likes to plug her since she put him on the map and wouldn't be surprised if there was something there. If there is a Britney nod, it's likely Kahn's doing and likely a positive.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 27, 2017 21:11:05 GMT -5
Did she ever actually have anything against Beyonce that I just completely missed? Because all of these allusions have me confused. Unless they really aren't allusions and are just very, very, very visually similar. ETA: Same with Britney. ETA again: Or is this video like...an homage to pop stars? I'M LOST. Still a good video. I think they are just reference to all that has happened to Taylor. IMO The cage thing is the real Taylor that has been sealed from the world but now its being unleashed because her reputation has been broken by others. The car crashing with her holding a grammy is Taylor when winning Album of the year. She was at the top of the world (riding a gold car) but suddenly she got accident when the Kim K video surfaced. Her sipping from tea cup is simply Taylor is serving truth tea this era. Love how many cripted message in this video
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 27, 2017 21:12:17 GMT -5
^ I took the kissing the Grammy part as a direct slight against Katy Did she ever actually have anything against Beyonce that I just completely missed? Because all of these allusions have me confused. Unless they really aren't allusions and are just very, very, very visually similar. ETA: Same with Britney. Wait, what about the video is being tied back to Beyoncé? I didn't catch anything about Britney either, I was just commenting that Kahn likes to plug her since she put him on the map and wouldn't be surprised if there was something there. If there is a Britney nod, it's likely Kahn's doing and likely a positive. The previous comparisons to the choreographed portion of the video being similar to Bey's "Formation" video. But all of that makes more sense! I don't know a whole lot about Kahn's body of work beyond the last few years, so I get it now. ty bb!
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 27, 2017 21:12:45 GMT -5
I don't understand how people dislike the song. The song is great and really different for her. I really like the cheeky chorus, "Ooh look what you made me do, look what you made me do, look at what you just me do." I like it. I disliked the song at first and still don't love it (mainly because it lacks the quality of song construction she usually pulls off naturally), but I will say the video has me moving toward the 'like' territory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 21:17:36 GMT -5
^ I took the kissing the Grammy part as a direct slight against Katy Wait, what about the video is being tied back to Beyoncé? I didn't catch anything about Britney either, I was just commenting that Kahn likes to plug her since she put him on the map and wouldn't be surprised if there was something there. If there is a Britney nod, it's likely Kahn's doing and likely a positive. The previous comparisons to the choreographed portion of the video being similar to Bey's "Formation" video. But all of that makes more sense! I don't know a whole lot about Kahn's body of work beyond the last few years, so I get it now. ty bb! Oh. To me it vaguely reminded me of the Mrs. Carter World Tour promo, but the choreo reminded me more of late 90's-early 00's pop girl choreo. Beyond aesthetics (kind of..?) I can't find much else in common so idt that's it.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 21:18:21 GMT -5
I think the car scene was Taylor saying that celebrities exploit certain events for more fame. Even though she was just in a really bad crash, when the cameras came she started showing off herself, her gold and the cheetah
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