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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 21:24:49 GMT -5
I think the car scene was Taylor saying that celebrities exploit certain events for more fame. Even though she was just in a really bad crash, when the cameras came she started showing off herself, her gold and the cheetah I thought that was the media relishing in her crashing and burning. I really doubt Taylor was making commentary on the industry, or on anything that didn't directly involve her lol
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Post by Kris on Aug 27, 2017 21:28:12 GMT -5
Is this going to break Harlem Shake's weekly views with the lyric + this video?
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 21:30:42 GMT -5
I think the car scene was Taylor saying that celebrities exploit certain events for more fame. Even though she was just in a really bad crash, when the cameras came she started showing off herself, her gold and the cheetah I thought that was the media relishing in her crashing and burning. I really doubt Taylor was making commentary on the industry, or on anything that didn't directly involve her lol I could see that if it was just the photographers but Taylor's reaction to the photographer's makes me think that it was her showing how others use the situations they are in (good or bad) for fame. I guess, I can see your idea too so it could be either (or something completely different)
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Aug 27, 2017 21:46:26 GMT -5
Ugh I'm so predictable, I've gone from slating this to enjoying it quite a bit.
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 27, 2017 22:14:16 GMT -5
Is this going to break Harlem Shake's weekly views with the lyric + this video? Doubt it. A large amount of the views are from outside the US.
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Post by spaceykSVP1999 on Aug 27, 2017 22:17:41 GMT -5
God I hope the next single campaign is better. This whole era is a car crash so far.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 27, 2017 22:18:27 GMT -5
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. I can't help it, I stan her. The end is hilarious.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 27, 2017 22:20:23 GMT -5
Updated to 761,325 views but that is likely still frozen. 565K likes and 48K dislikes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 22:26:58 GMT -5
God I hope the next single campaign is better. This whole era is a car crash so far. bruh it's been two days and she's already broken a streaming record and asserted herself as the Marilyn Monroe of the Trump administration. She's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 22:34:37 GMT -5
That video was awesome visually but coming from her it also was vomit inducing . This bish is so calculated and petty it's laughable at this point lol. Great video. Trash song. The video was like putting Tom Ford heels on a pig. Waste of money!
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 27, 2017 22:57:58 GMT -5
That ending is so perfect. Anyone who thinks TS is not self-aware.... Certainly not a cheap video. I almost wish they'd waited a couple of weeks, because I'm still digging the lyric video.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 27, 2017 23:01:22 GMT -5
The video is absolutely brilliant.
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Post by irice22 on Aug 27, 2017 23:03:41 GMT -5
God I hope the next single campaign is better. This whole era is a car crash so far. I understand not liking the song, but the campaign is flawless. If the song does end up crashing and burning, it's because the song isn't connecting, not the campaign.
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Post by EPG on Aug 27, 2017 23:04:48 GMT -5
That video was awesome visually but coming from her it also was vomit inducing. Basically my opinion of this song, video, and her. P.S. - The token gays part really pissed me off. She's shown literally zero interest in LGBT people, but all of a fucking sudden, there are a bunch of dudes in heels in her video.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 27, 2017 23:10:56 GMT -5
So right now, the music video has over 3 million views. There's still about 20 or so hours left, but I don't think it will get more views in 24 than Bad Blood, Hello or Gentleman did.
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Post by carriefan15 on Aug 27, 2017 23:11:15 GMT -5
Anyone else get Carrie's 'Cowboy Casanova' video vibes with the dancers at the end? Video is from like 2009 but that is around the time all the Carrie vs. Taylor rumors were swirling. Hmmmmm lol Regardless, I actually loved the video!
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Post by theflying on Aug 27, 2017 23:13:00 GMT -5
Something about the video and the song hit me, and I think it's going to be indicative thematically of what we can expect from the album.
It was based off of the "what is she trying to do" here: is she parodying herself? Is it a joke? Is it revenge? What is her aim here? Why is her album titled "reputation"? Why is she parodying herself being a victim?
It hit me what the theme of this project is:
Owning it.
Suddenly, the lyrics of the lead single make sense.
Look at how she opens:
I don't like your little games. Don't like your titled stage. The role you made me play. Of the fool. No, I don't like you.
It's super pointed. That's what's different than before. Far from couching her feelings in metaphors, she goes right for the jugular: the dreams are no longer "wild" --- they're bad. And they're not just bad -- she SHOUTS it at the person. Contrast this song to "Bad Blood" -- which not only DOES play the victim a bit, it obscures the feelings in sentimental metaphors.
Here? Nope. "I've got a list of names, and yours is in red underlined." Not only does she feel what she feel, she's doubling f**king down on it.
"Maybe I got mine but you'll all get yours."
Woah. 1989 Taylor wouldn't have written that.
The chorus now makes sense: I always thought the Right Said Fred was so...bizarre. Ultimately, that's a sample you strut to. It's a choice of confidence. When you roll your eyes and go "Taylor's playing the victim -- look, she's all "ooo, you made me do this!" -- thats Taylor mocking you in the chorus of the song.. She's deliberately mocking someone who's making fun of her for being some oversensitive prissy princess who writes scorned love songs about exes.
Blank Space is about mocking the image of that oversensitice princess.
LWYMMD is about mocking the PERSON who uses that image to make fun of Taylor.
Instead of playing the victim, look for Taylor to instead own her choices, own her character, and own her success.
That's why the album is called reputation. That's what the album's songs are going to be about; look for themes about owning choices you've made even if they're unpopular. Look for empowerment themes that come from adversity (which is already there in LWYMMD's prechorus) but perhaps ring darker than what we typically expect from empowerment anthems.
I have a number of nagging suspicions that when the music critics look at Taylor's album, this will be the thing they pick up on.
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Post by Music Fan on Aug 27, 2017 23:25:57 GMT -5
Great video -- most likely the best of the year. But it somehow made me like Taylor even less. The impression that I get is that "she's self aware, but still thinks she's right." May just be me, though.
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Post by Your Faves Fave. on Aug 27, 2017 23:27:32 GMT -5
God I hope the next single campaign is better. This whole era is a car crash so far. Huh? Anyway Taylor better WERK! I was living for the dance scene towards the end.
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Post by XXX. on Aug 27, 2017 23:38:35 GMT -5
I really like the song, but the video was a disappointment for me. It looks amazing, and Joseph Khan directed his ass off. I can see why the immediate reaction is, "OMG! VIDEO OF THE YEAR!"
But it feels empty.
I just don't think it really connects for me. And I could feel Taylor's awkwardness in selling a performance video. She looked really good, and she did a great job, though.
I just don't think this video really makes an impact like "Bad Blood".
It just looks incredible.
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Post by alestevens on Aug 27, 2017 23:41:45 GMT -5
That video was awesome visually but coming from her it also was vomit inducing. Basically my opinion of this song, video, and her. P.S. - The token gays part really pissed me off. She's shown literally zero interest in LGBT people, but all of a f**king sudden, there are a bunch of dudes in heels in her video. She had a gay guy in the "Mean" music video? She mentioned the LGBT community several times in interviews? Made a reference to love-freedom in "Welcome To New York"? She had a transgender model walking the runway at her tour? Presented at a LGBT awards show to honor one of her friends? Anyways, that part is most likely a reference to people who used to call her a "beard", hence them wearing the I Heart T.S. shirts that one of her boyfriends used!
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2017 23:43:12 GMT -5
I'm not a TS fan but I think this is a brilliant video.
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Post by Kinney on Aug 27, 2017 23:46:55 GMT -5
Damn, the video was just such an absolute home run. I hope she breaks the Vevo record, whatever number it is these days.
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Post by spaceykSVP1999 on Aug 27, 2017 23:54:02 GMT -5
Basically my opinion of this song, video, and her. P.S. - The token gays part really pissed me off. She's shown literally zero interest in LGBT people, but all of a f**king sudden, there are a bunch of dudes in heels in her video. She had a gay guy in the "Mean" music video? She mentioned the LGBT community several times in interviews? Made a reference to love-freedom in "Welcome To New York"? She had a transgender model walking the runway at her tour? Presented at a LGBT awards show to honor one of her friends? Anyways, that part is most likely a reference to people who used to call her a "beard", hence them wearing the I Heart T.S. shirts that one of her boyfriends used! Tragic! She was ego driven before but this megalomania is not going to do her any favors! This is Born This Way era chaos but she is much more cynical than Gaga could ever be.
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Post by Normi on Aug 27, 2017 23:54:37 GMT -5
That Zombie-Taylor is nightmare fuel.
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Post by Kris on Aug 27, 2017 23:56:51 GMT -5
So right now, the music video has over 3 million views. There's still about 20 or so hours left, but I don't think it will get more views in 24 than Bad Blood, Hello or Gentleman did. Well with how Youtube is slowly creeping up with the traffic on the video and the equivalency of likes/dislikes (800k total atm) I'd say it probably already has well over 8 million views within the first 4 hours (given a 10% like/dislike based on first video watch, but looking at other videos the number far exceeds a 10:1 view per like/dislike so it could be higher already.) edit: within 3 minutes it went up 600k views so this is probably the case
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 27, 2017 23:58:27 GMT -5
Wait, I just noticed that she was robbing a Streaming Company
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 28, 2017 0:00:20 GMT -5
Wait, I just noticed that she was robbing a Streaming Company No wonder it said Streaming Co. during the robbery scene! I didn't realize it until I saw it.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 28, 2017 0:00:46 GMT -5
She had a gay guy in the "Mean" music video? She mentioned the LGBT community several times in interviews? Made a reference to love-freedom in "Welcome To New York"? She had a transgender model walking the runway at her tour? Presented at a LGBT awards show to honor one of her friends? Anyways, that part is most likely a reference to people who used to call her a "beard", hence them wearing the I Heart T.S. shirts that one of her boyfriends used! Tragic! She was ego driven before but this megalomania is not going to do her any favors! This is Born This Way era chaos but she is much more cynical than Gaga could ever be. I don't understand your logic in this thread. How is this scenario tragic or cynical? How is it not doing her any favors when the track is absolutely slaying the charts right now? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not working.
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Post by dwhite725 on Aug 28, 2017 0:07:10 GMT -5
Is there shade towards streaming? In a scene in the second prechorus there is a scrolling news banner that reads >>streaming co. >> streaming co. She obviously went against streaming last go around but could this be additional shade towards Kayne? He is an owner of a streaming company. And the end totally calls the whole Kimye situation out again with the snake, receipts et al.
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