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Post by born on Aug 28, 2017 6:26:01 GMT -5
Plus, the jet has "TS6" written on it. Also, "Nils Sjöberg" is written on a gravestone and "A Joseph Kahn Film" on a different one.
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Post by Peterawr on Aug 28, 2017 7:32:48 GMT -5
I would have loved to be in the room when they were discussing the concept for this song and video.
"Ok let's use the same melody as "I'm too sexy for my shirt" for the chorus"
"Yas"
"And let's find a bunch of music videos and reference parts of them for mine"
"Yas"
"And let's bring back a ton of my old characters throughout the video"
"Yas"
"And then I'll stand in front of a giant T while a hoard of past Taylors literally climbs on top of each other to get to the new taylor"
"YASSSS"
"Finally make every persona I've had make fun of each other at the end"
"Sold: your budget is 1 billion. Go."
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Post by Duca on Aug 28, 2017 7:35:57 GMT -5
18 million views in the first 12 hours. 9 million away from breaking the 24-hour record.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 28, 2017 7:42:19 GMT -5
That must be a better like/dislike ratio than the lyric video, right? Lyric video:1,331,335 likes (83%) 273,600 dislikes (17%) Official video:1,303,935 likes (90.8%) 131,614 dislikes (9.2%)
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Post by trustypepper on Aug 28, 2017 7:44:12 GMT -5
This bitch is not messing around this time. I'm completely ready for the slayage of this era.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 28, 2017 7:46:16 GMT -5
I really like the video! I am curious as to what the budget for this was.
After a couple of days of listening, this song has really grown on me!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 28, 2017 8:12:16 GMT -5
It's a fantastic video. I've never thought of Taylor as a sexy woman, but she plays that role pretty well. This is exactly how Katy should have been transitioning or selling herself. Instead we get Katy in a basketball jersey. Ugh.
Anyways, total bullseye for Taylor. Made me like the song more too.
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Post by Duca on Aug 28, 2017 8:29:50 GMT -5
20 million views and gaining like crazy now. 7 million to go.
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Post by allow that on Aug 28, 2017 8:31:46 GMT -5
Nevermind that though; it's a reference to one of the more bizarre accusations: that she consistently dates (and gets dumped by) closeted gay men. Eight exes, eight gays. It's not gay pandering. Witty reason aside, it IS insulting that she'd decide what gay men look like based on one of the most outdated stereotypes possible. All gay men prance around in heels in Taylor's world I guess... Beyonce literally hit the campaign trail and performed with Hillary Clinton. We know 110% that she's no Trump supporter. Also: https://www.instagram.com/p/XV_x7cvw0p
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Aug 28, 2017 8:36:01 GMT -5
It is so amusing to see these monstrous AI updates
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Post by boricuamusicfan on Aug 28, 2017 8:42:03 GMT -5
Video is full of interesting visuals, and musically, the song is at least somewhat of a more adventurous path for Taylor.
How long before this hits # 1 on Billboard's Hot 100?
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Post by garrettlen on Aug 28, 2017 9:08:07 GMT -5
Still not a fan of the song, but that video was clever and well done.
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Post by ItGirl on Aug 28, 2017 9:09:35 GMT -5
lmao. A lot of these celebs you think voted for Hilary voted for Trump.
This is how I know Taylor will continue to win. Pages are being devoted on who she voted for.
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Post by divasummer on Aug 28, 2017 9:12:34 GMT -5
Video is full of interesting visuals, and musically, the song is at least somewhat of a more adventurous path for Taylor. How long before this hits # 1 on Billboard's Hot 100? 1 week 4 hrs. from now. (around 3-4 pm)
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 28, 2017 9:15:22 GMT -5
20,454,300 on YouTube :)
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 28, 2017 9:34:38 GMT -5
@ "Blind For Love". Maybe that is her justification for bearding; she doesn't realize that these men are gay or that she is so in love with the concept of love that she turns a blind eye to everything else. I need to watch this video again. There is a LOT to unpack and it happens so quickly. Anyway, between that high-art lyric video and this ridiculous official one, I am becoming a stan of the song.
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Post by neverduplicated on Aug 28, 2017 9:43:40 GMT -5
Nevermind that though; it's a reference to one of the more bizarre accusations: that she consistently dates (and gets dumped by) closeted gay men. Eight exes, eight gays. It's not gay pandering. Witty reason aside, it IS insulting that she'd decide what gay men look like based on one of the most outdated stereotypes possible. All gay men prance around in heels in Taylor's world I guess... So, first of all, dancing around in heels is FIERCE, and I'm so happy the biggest pop star on the planet put men in heels in her video. I am a man who loves wearing heels and I hope humanity can move away from gendered clothing choices. Second, this sort of comment is in many ways exactly what this song is about - anything Taylor does is overanalyzed to death and somehow she ends up coming off as insensitive, fake, manipulative, etc. If Gaga had men dancing in heels in her video, would you think she's exploiting negative stereotypes or celebrating a person's decisions to wear what they like regardless of their gender?
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 28, 2017 9:58:40 GMT -5
Witty reason aside, it IS insulting that she'd decide what gay men look like based on one of the most outdated stereotypes possible. All gay men prance around in heels in Taylor's world I guess... So, first of all, dancing around in heels is FIERCE, and I'm so happy the biggest pop star on the planet put men in heels in her video. I am a man who loves wearing heels and I hope humanity can move away from gendered clothing choices. Second, this sort of comment is in many ways exactly what this song is about - anything Taylor does is overanalyzed to death and somehow she ends up coming off as insensitive, fake, manipulative, etc. If Gaga had men dancing in heels in her video, would you think she's exploiting negative stereotypes or celebrating a person's decisions to wear what they like regardless of their gender? The difference is that expectation has been set for Gaga since the moment she hit the pop music scene. Gaga talks the talk but also walks the fucking walk. There's nothing that Taylor has said or done in the past that sets a precedence for gay men dancing in heels in her video. It feels inauthentic and like pandering. Also, people have been criticizing Gaga for gay pandering and using the LGBT community as a prop for years, so she may not be your best counterexample. Stop crying about Taylor's plight. Literally every pop star of or near her caliber gets the same fake, calculated, inauthentic criticisms levied at them in some form (minus Adele). The difference is in how they handle the criticism. And Taylor just seems to always find a way to dig her hole deeper. <3
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Post by allow that on Aug 28, 2017 9:59:57 GMT -5
Witty reason aside, it IS insulting that she'd decide what gay men look like based on one of the most outdated stereotypes possible. All gay men prance around in heels in Taylor's world I guess... So, first of all, dancing around in heels is FIERCE, and I'm so happy the biggest pop star on the planet put men in heels in her video. I am a man who loves wearing heels and I hope humanity can move away from gendered clothing choices. And whatever you personal style is is beautiful because its yours. Of course humanity should move away from gendered clothing choices, but that's not the issue here. Gay men, just like any population, come with a diverse range of personal styles and as an outsider of the community, Taylor shouldn't pigeonhole us as all being the same based on an ages old stereotype. She literally released a video with symbolism INTENDED to be analyzed. And yes, she's going to come across as fake and manipulative after crying to the press about Kanye only for their phone call to surface where she's like "So hot, I love it! Of course you have my blessing." What do you really expect? We can't pretend like that never happened. Gaga has always fought for gay rights. See the difference?
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Post by ItGirl on Aug 28, 2017 10:15:32 GMT -5
Didn't Beyonce have men dancing in heels for SL?
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Post by neverduplicated on Aug 28, 2017 10:18:12 GMT -5
So, first of all, dancing around in heels is FIERCE, and I'm so happy the biggest pop star on the planet put men in heels in her video. I am a man who loves wearing heels and I hope humanity can move away from gendered clothing choices. And whatever you personal style is is beautiful because its yours. Of course humanity should move away from gendered clothing choices, but that's not the issue here. Gay men, just like any population, come with a diverse range of personal styles and as an outsider of the community, Taylor shouldn't pigeonhole us as all being the same based on an ages old stereotype. She literally released a video with symbolism INTENDED to be analyzed. And yes, she's going to come across as fake and manipulative after crying to the press about Kanye only for their phone call to surface where she's like "So hot, I love it! Of course you have my blessing." What do you really expect? We can't pretend like that never happened. Gaga has always fought for gay rights. See the difference? I don't see why Taylor having men dancing in heels in her video somehow sends the message that she thinks all gay men prance around in heels or that she wants us to hold that as the image of what gay men are. And to Carmen, I'm not crying about Taylor's plight. I'm speaking up as a gay man who is pleased with the image of men dancing in heels in Taylor's video. I see it as empowering and some see it as offensive. I guess that's just a disconnect we'll have to be at.
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Post by Kii on Aug 28, 2017 10:25:04 GMT -5
The song is growing on me and the video for this is iconic. It was a smart move for her to turn the negative press she had into fuel for this era imo. I'm really intrigued about what else is coming from this album, and I've never really been checking for her til now so there you go.
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Post by Choco on Aug 28, 2017 10:31:18 GMT -5
The end of the video is the best part by far. Well done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 10:35:40 GMT -5
Loved the end of the video with all the Taylors, and the rest was definitely high quality. It's actually impressive how she can play the victim and also victimize others at the exact same time.
Sad to see always see people jumping to the most negative conclusions about anything she does, but I guess that's the price you pay for being one of the world's biggest popstars.
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Post by Grün on Aug 28, 2017 10:43:21 GMT -5
So, first of all, dancing around in heels is FIERCE, and I'm so happy the biggest pop star on the planet put men in heels in her video. I am a man who loves wearing heels and I hope humanity can move away from gendered clothing choices. And whatever you personal style is is beautiful because its yours. Of course humanity should move away from gendered clothing choices, but that's not the issue here. Gay men, just like any population, come with a diverse range of personal styles and as an outsider of the community, Taylor shouldn't pigeonhole us as all being the same based on an ages old stereotype. She literally released a video with symbolism INTENDED to be analyzed. And yes, she's going to come across as fake and manipulative after crying to the press about Kanye only for their phone call to surface where she's like "So hot, I love it! Of course you have my blessing." What do you really noy expect? We can't pretend like that never happened. Gaga has always fought for gay rights. See the difference? We get it you don't like the song. I don't get why you incessantly post on every page of your obvious distain for Taylor, or try to throw out outlandish ideas or comparisons. Naturally, you are allowed to express your opinion, but at this point; you're a broken record.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Aug 28, 2017 10:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 10:50:25 GMT -5
Edit: what the f**k is pulse doing with its formatting...? Witty reason aside, it IS insulting that she'd decide what gay men look like based on one of the most outdated stereotypes possible. All gay men prance around in heels in Taylor's world I guess... Beyonce literally hit the campaign trail and performed with Hillary Clinton. We know 110% that she's no Trump supporter Effeminate gays exist as well...? Let's say she went the masculine route. How, exactly, was she supposed to portray them without underscoring that they were gay? Because if she's got dudes making out but they're masc or whatever that's veering into a weirdly different statement than what this video is about or intended to be about. If not that, then was she just not supposed to address the gay exes thing at all by totally removing references to gay culture from the video because it's "pandering" (weird thing to criticize since this is pop music and that's kind of their job). I just feel like this point is grasping for something that isn't there. It also irritates me that this is 2017 and people still like to throw the "feminine gays are a stereotype!" thing around. I thought we were past that, especially in this political climate when normalizing perceived social pariahs like that is the endgame. Not trying to be rude here, but we know masc gays exist by now. That's a point so far removed from this video that I'm not sure why it was brought up. Her reasoning is sound and non-exploitative, let her live. As for Bey, who brought up Trump? That's irrelevant. I'm talking about exploiting gays and gay culture while ultimately paying them dust as a marketing ploy. What was said was that Taylor hasn't said or done s**t for the community, which is false and was addressed.
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Post by spaceykSVP1999 on Aug 28, 2017 10:56:09 GMT -5
You love a train wreck.
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 28, 2017 11:11:44 GMT -5
23.5 million views with another 8 hours or so to go. This shouldn't have any issue hitting 30 million for the first 24 hours.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Aug 28, 2017 11:12:29 GMT -5
Genuinely not sure if you're deliberately attempting to increase your post count or if you're actually a broken record repeating the same thing in this thread. We get it, you don't like Taylor. Can we all talk about something else other than Clinton/Trump, token gays, and Beyoncé?!
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